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post Jul 2 2022, 08:23 AM

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We wait until flowers also fall…
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post Jul 3 2022, 11:33 AM

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All I know is we have a top dog transfer negotiator / director of football that has been working 6-10 (we could have heard wrongly, it maybe only 4 hours per day), 16 hours a day sign ETH’s by now magical and mythical transfer list. By this we have managed to spend a stupendous €15M!

The entire French league is quaking at our ability to hijack deals, provided it is cheap enough in the first place. Everyone and anyone cannot make a transfer bid without MUFC adding €1 and topping them.

So eventually, we will have won the league by spending soo little, going the way of Leicester rather than Liverpool or MC (shame on them for spending, shame on SAF for spending to win).

All we have to do now is wait 2 seasons for Barca’s deluded president to decide / remember / conclude that they actually want to sell a critical player we may or may not need, for a price they for sure do not apparently need, who says that he was already playing for his boyhood dream team and never intended to leave at the first place.
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post Jul 3 2022, 11:38 AM

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If you guys think CR7 is wrong to attempt to force us into transfer activity, remember that when he came back he found even the swimming pool of The biggest team on earth to be worst than when he left 10+ years ago. Only by threatening and complaining that they eventually raised some funds (maybe crowd sourced) to fix it so that he can get back to maintaining his fitness, so that he actually scored 28 goals….

If we didn’t have Cristiano last year we would’ve been stuck in bottom 10. Not that it mattered but whole season I only remember his solo goals and screamers as sweet memories. Don’t ever bash the real GOAT.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 3 2022, 11:38 AM)
Not sure if you're referring to me (since I nvr bash CR7 for wanting to leave, merely stating that if he leaves it solves some existing problems/dilemma for the team) but here's my additional comment:

a world class player can be a bad signing ... if it disrupt the team's balance or doesn't really fit into a manager's philosophy or gameplay

RR once said that he has to tweaked the formation to accommodate Ronaldo since Ronaldo doesn't want play alone on top.

Also, in the past I've always called out many times regarding Ole's capability (especially after the Europa Final)

My stand is ... if he stays, good for the team since he is a serial winner + high standard with strong mentality and hunger (will be good role model for the youngster and new signings)

but if he wanna leave, let him go because:-

1) his heart is no longer here (and keeping unhappy player of his status can disrupt the dressing room harmony)
2) he is already old and we should really play with younger players for the future with rebuilding in mind
3) it can potentially gives more flexibility for the manager in tactics (again like I mentioned in my previous post that media gonna have a fun day questioning the manager if Ronaldo is dropped or substituted with excessive scrutiny)
4) frees up the wages
Club is always bigger than a player ... and I don't pretend that signing Ronaldo last season is all good without any disadvantages/flaws in bigger picture
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It is fine and fair to debate, but think 3x, last season if we didn’t sign CR7, we would’ve have been playing with Masial and waiting for Cavani’s shadow to appear. Confirm we will be knee deep.

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 3 2022, 12:58 PM)
Sure got team under him la. Impossible only 1 ppl working. Just that those names maybe clocking 9-6 job ppl
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Of course, it takes a team of people to sit around and wait for deals to done by others and then we just need to wait until other people submit some proposals, then we just up the bid.

May I ask, really, what on earth are this wonderful top crack team doing other than wait for others to act? Ethan hunt would’ve stolen FDJ’s registration papers by now. Honestly I am still ashamed by our handling of Sancho. And have been taken to school on this, losing time AND money in the process.

If you all tell me this is the best team / big boys / top money baller, then I also dunno what pipe we all smoking from.

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 3 2022, 11:49 AM)
to be honest, if it's not for Greenwood's case, we would not be so barebone on top ..

but last season is gone, and we really should look forward now

we all have sentimental feelings towards CR7 if you've been a fan since then (I started following Man Utd since RvN era), but rationally we shouldn't really rely on 37 years old to carry us and use him sparringly (if he stays)

but we all know Ronaldo really focus alot on personal records and trophies (which smtg that the current Man Utd cant give now)
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So many buts and ifs. If only Cavani was not a homesick boy, if only he was even half as fit as the other old man Ronaldo.
But no, greenwood managed to derail his own career by focusing on allegedly raping his own girlfriend. Why can’t even have the decency to propose a marriage and do it like a responsible man?
No, Greenwood was playing at the start of the season and we all saw his star waned way before his case got any mention. Any player who is focused on allegedly raping his girlfriend would not be a great player or even a half decent one eventually.
Not at all MU’s fault but leaves us with our pants down in front had we not had CR7.

We could’ve signed someone better no doubt, but to say he is the source of our troubles or causing trouble for anyone (poor RR, lost his job because he had the best striker ever to manage…such a horrible job he had) is hands down a lousy way to thank Cristiano for single handedly carrying us last season.

I agree not to be a old folks home, and live on sentimentality alone. But it is a damn fact that last year he was by a long mile our top player and not even too frequently injured. He should be used sparingly, yes but not treated sparingly. He should be given ear and fully respected. How often has he actually complained about club management ? Way less than the other Argentine goat for sure. How much he can play should be managed by listening to him and his physical condition. It is my way of saying every time he puts on the shirt I have never felt let down, so much as I see any other player when they wear the shirt. When it is time for him to finally decide to down tools and sip pina colada, that is the time we let allow him to do it and not show him the door a day too soon.
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post Jul 3 2022, 11:36 PM

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Does anyone at all think that we are being played by Barca? It’s like Laporta just threatening FDJ with being sold if he doesn’t want to resign a lower salary contract?
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 3 2022, 11:58 PM)
Laporta was a politician bro. The way he suddenly said that it’s part of his plan, it’s simple:

1. If FDJ join us, he can put the blame on FDJ by not reduce his salary

2. If FDJ reduce the salary, he will be hero

Both way he also a winner. To keep the fans happy and get more support, for future re election as president.

If Barca played us, why need to nego nego at the first place? Can straight said “nope, FDJ is not for sale”, they already know FDJ salary gap is very important for them to register Kessie, Christensen, Alonso (?), Raphinha (?)

Remembered Messi? Remembered Emerson?
He said he will do his best to keep Messi, did he? Ended up Messi joined PSG
He said Emerson was here to stay after signing new contract, 2 weeks later, he joined Spurs
Look back 2002 when he ran for president, his main manifesto was to sign Beckham when he get elected but that time Beckham already on his way to RM

I don’t trusted things coming out from Laporta, his political skills are same level like our own politicians
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The same way as we ended up not getting Fabregas from Barcelona. Same as how Dembele is still at Barca too. Yes, they need to trim their salary bills. But perhaps using another club is a good idea to deliver this. I have an inkling that our noob transfer team is being taken for a ride, and ETH may have been too damn naive to only focus on 1 name.
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QUOTE(natx001 @ Jul 4 2022, 10:08 AM)
ETH can blame monkeys at board when everything goes shiat
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board will fire him when we turn against the team (due to bad results)...and blame him for poor performance.

Then only 5 years later when NDA expire will he come out and say the board failed (again) to get his targets. [This is already happened, with Mou, LVG, even Moyes]

In the end, if we want him to stick around we have to stay quiet like sheep, then accept whatever the crap that is being dished out to us week in week out. Top 4 celebrate like mad.

Its like getting a world class conductor and but all your musicians are 2nd rate.
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Anyone feel Eriksen comes a few years too late? Remember we were linked with him before he left for Inter and even that time I was like meh.
Of course at his peak, a considerable threat due to his stinger missiles....but in a tiki taka or whatever high press mumbo jumbo system he needs to put in the shift no?

Not to mention nowadays all the long range shooting is done by Herr Ronaldo and Bruno. How many times we wanna strike row Z in a match? Ok, if Ronaldo goes (against my personal hopes)...maybe just enough shooting.
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I don’t even wanna mention his heart condition which is between him and God almighty.

As a squad player maybe…but we still have urgent holes in first 11. So please, let us get back to the main show and not the side show.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 5 2022, 12:03 PM)
a few years too late as first choice starter for 40 games yes. but we shouldnt need to rely [insert XYZ] to start 40 games a season. role should be rotation player but with impact.

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This is what MUFC has become. A team of non-starters and collection of impact subs......

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post Jul 5 2022, 08:27 PM

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Well CR7 can ask for transfer but should not skip training la. That means you don’t put in the same effort as your team mates. Not pro.

Time to move on.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 5 2022, 09:18 PM)
Welcome Malacia! Finally announced

Some interesting reading on FDJ contract

https://amp.marca.com/en/football/barcelona...c10d8b4588.html
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this is not salary issue for Barca but actually DEFERRED back pay and contractual bonuses that they have pay...so interesting.....If I was FDJ then all I have to do is sit tight and ka ching.

Looks like he already did the decent thing and deferred his humongous salary during the pandemic lows, now the slimy Barca management want to avoid paying even that. Why would anyone want to support this club or even dream of playing for this club, that is beyond me. A slimy, dirty management. No wonder he doesn't want to leave. There is much more to be made by staying than actually signing any shiny contract.

No wonder Barca needs to sell him...that's like getting FDJ to play for free for the last 2 years.

I lost my respect for this club which I used to support back in Rivaldo days. Wish them get every single thing they deserve and more. So for FDJ to actually agree to a transfer, this will mean a super entangled negotiation. I do not envy anyone needing to figure out how much goes to who in this case. Looks like Barca should get nothing. And they'd have to contractually back pay FDJ even after cancelling his contract. We shouldn't be getting into this financial clusterfucuk.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 6 2022, 02:05 PM)
That’s why the negotiation took so long, it’s from Barca’s side.
Even the 20M add ons settle, Barca still have to dig their own pocket to pay the deferred payment which in this point of time a bomb for them.
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I wouldn't touch this kind of business with a 10ft pole. It is plain nuts to get in bed with these financial scammers. Seriously there is no other player available or suitable enough? Its like we are cleaning up Barca's sh!t, while paying for it. They are using us to disentangle.

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 6 2022, 04:14 PM)
ETH wanna build team around him... what to do bro... the only deep lying playmaker that can play the total footballs dutch style... if not neves should have a not bad option with his EPL experience...
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history will prove whether ETH is right or not. There is only 1 place for winners.....haha. No one on earth should plan a football team or his or her career on another single human resource.

What if we get him then aiyak - injured.....takkan MUFC dysfunctional straight away......Must have a 2nd choice for every single position and every single target ler....

Dutch Oranje team also no other DLP? wadepak.
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Chelsea getting FDJ will be like ETH waking up with a green hat on his head.

Does anyone still believe we are big boys well run club now? The one with plenty of assets to sell or even some football clubs to sell or something something and we still have only spent a whopping £15M in total so far.

We are flying out with the worst squad in our history (based on achievement) and not clear path in sight when we return. Bet you a few of our top players will injure themselves with the Thai weather.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 8 2022, 02:33 PM)
the sooner we realise that we are mid table club with higher budget now .. the better it is

so we can really reset and build from scratch

we have no pulling power compared to other top 4s lol
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What higher budget? Better yet what budget?

To reset and build from scratch we need to get rid of Glazers. To do that we need to bankrupt the company. To do that we need to boycott the sponsors.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 8 2022, 10:52 PM)
He stated he doesn’t want to join Chelsea and prefer MU if he leave
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Up to now, you wonder if MUFC actually got the money or not? If yes what’s so difficult to pay? If not then what the hell is this nonsense. I feel it’s as bad as sancho.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 8 2022, 11:10 PM)
It’s FDJ and Barca now, not related to MU.

Barca still owe him salary and deferred payment plus his agent fees, MU doesn’t want to get involved in this plus if we dump in let’s said 80M + 20M or 90M straight cash, what’s the diff between now and then? MU trying to get rid of their “water fish” image.

Now we should focus on Martinez, news saying that Ajax will have board meeting today to whether accept 51M + add on or not

Sign Martinez first and conclude Eriksen’s deal too. FDJ is bonus if he managed to settle his salary with Barca and move on

For Eriksen deal, it will be another tough deal because
1. The chances of him pass the fitness are low given of his heart condition, that’s why doctors are involve

2. His contract. The lawyer now going thru the contract MU offer but will take times cuz what if his health doesn’t allow him to finish his contract, what are the compensations or contract termination

Anthony, I rate him lower than Richarlison and the price tag of 60M is over price.
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We are the stupidest non water fish team in the world for focusing on FDJ for the last 60 days knowing this crap entanglement is never going to unravel and Barca will drag us deep into the sewers.
Noobest of the noob.

I too would rather have Richarlison than Antony

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