Just a question to ask, if KDI go busted, does it mean all our funds inside will be gone too?
Investment Kenanga Digital Investing (KDI), KDI Invest, KDI Save
Investment Kenanga Digital Investing (KDI), KDI Invest, KDI Save
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Apr 19 2023, 11:47 AM
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Just a question to ask, if KDI go busted, does it mean all our funds inside will be gone too?
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Apr 19 2023, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 19 2023, 11:47 AM) I believe they hold the funds in Philip Trustee but you should check their website / customer service. The funds are not PIDM insured like bank deposits up to 250k. After all, what bank and investment have 0 risk, correct? |
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Apr 19 2023, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Apr 19 2023, 12:01 PM) I believe they hold the funds in Philip Trustee but you should check their website / customer service. From what i noticed, most of the people only concern about the interest rate and the withdrawal time. Not many people actually asking how secured this KDI is and it seems no information available where they deposit our money too.The funds are not PIDM insured like bank deposits up to 250k. After all, what bank and investment have 0 risk, correct? |
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Apr 19 2023, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Apr 19 2023, 12:01 PM) I believe they hold the funds in Philip Trustee but you should check their website / customer service. Not Philip Trustee but Pacific Trustee π€¦ββοΈThe funds are not PIDM insured like bank deposits up to 250k. After all, what bank and investment have 0 risk, correct? QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 19 2023, 12:17 PM) From what i noticed, most of the people only concern about the interest rate and the withdrawal time. Not many people actually asking how secured this KDI is and it seems no information available where they deposit our money too. The information is there but very difficult to find in akDI website due to its fonts A lot of ppl ask but couldnβt get answer but a standard that KDI Save is a treasury product |
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Apr 19 2023, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 19 2023, 12:17 PM) From what i noticed, most of the people only concern about the interest rate and the withdrawal time. Not many people actually asking how secured this KDI is and it seems no information available where they deposit our money too. ^ This, I kinda trust Kenanga, they existed before I was even born, don't think they will go bust so easilyHowever I hate this KDI's non transparency and website/app looks very immature. I don't give a s**t about withdrawal time and the 3.5 now is just meh |
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Apr 19 2023, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 19 2023, 12:17 PM) From what i noticed, most of the people only concern about the interest rate and the withdrawal time. Not many people actually asking how secured this KDI is and it seems no information available where they deposit our money too. If you know who is kenanga, you wouldn't be asking this question. Do you know that they are approved by EPF to invest EPF money should you choose them to invest over letting the money sit inside EPF?This post has been edited by Ramjade: Apr 19 2023, 03:44 PM |
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Apr 19 2023, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 19 2023, 11:47 AM) theoretically yes, is there any investment that protects capital? perhaps recover partially depending on the financial position QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 19 2023, 12:17 PM) From what i noticed, most of the people only concern about the interest rate and the withdrawal time. Not many people actually asking how secured this KDI is and it seems no information available where they deposit our money too. because they equate mmf with fd QUOTE(yayai @ Apr 19 2023, 01:02 PM) ^ This, I kinda trust Kenanga, they existed before I was even born, don't think they will go bust so easily lehman, svb also existed before i was born However I hate this KDI's non transparency and website/app looks very immature. I don't give a s**t about withdrawal time and the 3.5 now is just meh nevertheless, i still have savings with them in a hope that not all of them go bust / system down etc at the same time ya, started goinvest because of KDI 3.5% |
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Apr 19 2023, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 19 2023, 12:17 PM) From what i noticed, most of the people only concern about the interest rate and the withdrawal time. Not many people actually asking how secured this KDI is and it seems no information available where they deposit our money too. Agree, safety first. QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Apr 19 2023, 12:50 PM) Not Philip Trustee but Pacific Trustee π€¦ββοΈ Thank you for the correction. The information is there but very difficult to find in akDI website due to its fonts A lot of ppl ask but couldnβt get answer but a standard that KDI Save is a treasury product QUOTE(yayai @ Apr 19 2023, 01:02 PM) ^ This, I kinda trust Kenanga, they existed before I was even born, don't think they will go bust so easily You trust non-transparency. However I hate this KDI's non transparency and website/app looks very immature. I don't give a s**t about withdrawal time and the 3.5 now is just meh Not that I am judging. I struggle with how KDI Save presents as "compounding" but buried in the FAQ is calculation that results in 3.5% p.a. and the maths works out to 10350 instead of 10361. KDI Save withdrawal takes 1 to 2 days, which I take for granted until last week one of the octopus ransome me so the liquidity is handy. 3.5 is a meh because KDI Invest customer account is in the red since June. QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 19 2023, 01:03 PM) If you know who is kenanga, you wouldn't be asking this question. Do you know that they are approved by EPF to invest EPF money should choose them to invest over letting the money sit inside EPF? I never knew this. This is the reason I rely on sifus' of LYN Finance. |
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Apr 19 2023, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Apr 19 2023, 03:44 PM) Agree, safety first. KDI Save liquidity by disclosure they have to put T+1 or 2 in order to cover any unforeseen delays but in actual operation it is within the same day if withdrawal is done by 11am the same day Thank you for the correction. You trust non-transparency. Not that I am judging. I struggle with how KDI Save presents as "compounding" but buried in the FAQ is calculation that results in 3.5% p.a. and the maths works out to 10350 instead of 10361. KDI Save withdrawal takes 1 to 2 days, which I take for granted until last week one of the octopus ransome me so the liquidity is handy. 3.5 is a meh because KDI Invest customer account is in the red since June. I never knew this. This is the reason I rely on sifus' of LYN Finance. KDI Invest forget about it because by the time the AI start moving the markets already move because the data is being used is already lagged just like how the US Fed on using lagged data π€¦ββοΈ Hence why you see red in accounts Kenanga is already 50 years this year and started by royal family and was owned by John Hancock in 80s and Deutsche Bank in 90s and now Rakuten has a stake in it So do you think Kenanga is not credible while EPF allow its members to invest in its fund π€¦ββοΈ |
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Apr 19 2023, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Apr 19 2023, 03:56 PM) KDI Save liquidity by disclosure they have to put T+1 or 2 in order to cover any unforeseen delays but in actual operation it is within the same day if withdrawal is done by 11am the same day 50 year old company use lagged data KDI Invest forget about it because by the time the AI start moving the markets already move because the data is being used is already lagged just like how the US Fed on using lagged data π€¦ββοΈ Hence why you see red in accounts Kenanga is already 50 years this year and started by royal family and was owned by John Hancock in 80s and Deutsche Bank in 90s and now Rakuten has a stake in it So do you think Kenanga is not credible while EPF allow its members to invest in its fund π€¦ββοΈ Royalty dump this company to Hancock then dump to Deutsche then dump to Rakuten Smart folks hang on to good investment, until.... Now that you mention, I see why people find this company not credible. EPF let members early withdrawal. Recently PMX had to plug it. Maybe someone wants to come in and state BN ruled for 60 years, very credible ? Anyway, I was neither for or against KDI but with recent info, I learn something new. |
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Apr 19 2023, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Apr 19 2023, 04:12 PM) 50 year old company use lagged data If Kenanga not safe, you think can get approval from EPF to invest unit trust? Royalty dump this company to Hancock then dump to Deutsche then dump to Rakuten Smart folks hang on to good investment, until.... Now that you mention, I see why people find this company not credible. EPF let members early withdrawal. Recently PMX had to plug it. Maybe someone wants to come in and state BN ruled for 60 years, very credible ? Anyway, I was neither for or against KDI but with recent info, I learn something new. If Kenanga not safe, think they can offer PRS or get license from BMM to sell unit trust? If you don't like kenanga, go with versa. No one is forcing you to put your money into KDI. For me it's the best MMF cause I can get my money on the same day. Not many MMF can do that. 3.5%p.a is decent. Nothing to shout home about. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Apr 19 2023, 04:20 PM |
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Apr 19 2023, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Apr 19 2023, 04:12 PM) 50 year old company use lagged data Not royalty dump but forced into partnership with maximum 30% thanks to Tongkat rule π€¦ββοΈ Remember royalty just siphoned others while not knowing how to run a business as you can tell with many solid overseas brand name destroyed by them in Malaysia π€¦ββοΈ the only royalty run company currently that is making good money is Gamuda Royalty dump this company to Hancock then dump to Deutsche then dump to Rakuten Smart folks hang on to good investment, until.... Now that you mention, I see why people find this company not credible. EPF let members early withdrawal. Recently PMX had to plug it. Maybe someone wants to come in and state BN ruled for 60 years, very credible ? Anyway, I was neither for or against KDI but with recent info, I learn something new. The company is credible and solid just the management is still Tongkat and old skool and headed by royalty in the board hence they move very slow while trying to transform as typical Malaysians companies does QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 19 2023, 04:18 PM) If Kenanga not safe, you think can get approval from EPF to invest unit trust? As long as their licensed with SC and BNM approval it is ultra safe to have money in their products as it would be regulated and no hanky pankyIf Kenanga not safe, think they can offer PRS or get license from BMM to sell unit trust? |
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Apr 19 2023, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 19 2023, 04:18 PM) If Kenanga not safe, you think can get approval from EPF to invest unit trust? Unker Ramjade is already outdate πIf Kenanga not safe, think they can offer PRS or get license from BMM to sell unit trust? If you don't like kenanga, go with versa. No one is forcing you to put your money into KDI. For me it's the best MMF cause I can get my money on the same day. Not many MMF can do that. 3.5%p.a is decent. Nothing to shout home about. Versa-i offers same day withdrawal by 1030am execution and received money by 630pm the same day |
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Apr 19 2023, 04:26 PM
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Apr 19 2023, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 19 2023, 04:26 PM) No need to be scared I only use currently until the promo is lower because of the liquidity πAnyway it wonβt be EPF-i but returns definitely lagged as Versa will topped the difference in rebates payout until June |
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Apr 19 2023, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 19 2023, 04:18 PM) If Kenanga not safe, you think can get approval from EPF to invest unit trust? As Xander2k8 puts it, tongkat and cronism is in play, and list Gamuda remaining as making money. If Kenanga not safe, think they can offer PRS or get license from BMM to sell unit trust? If you don't like kenanga, go with versa. No one is forcing you to put your money into KDI. For me it's the best MMF cause I can get my money on the same day. Not many MMF can do that. 3.5%p.a is decent. Nothing to shout home about. I heard Public Mutual had lots of top performers and EPF allowed but today so few mention of them. As I've put it, I was neither for or against Kenanga, and look to sifus' for guidance. Thank you for the recommendation. Yes, I am impress by KDI Save's liquidity. QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Apr 19 2023, 04:23 PM) Not royalty dump but forced into partnership with maximum 30% thanks to Tongkat rule π€¦ββοΈ Remember royalty just siphoned others while not knowing how to run a business as you can tell with many solid overseas brand name destroyed by them in Malaysia π€¦ββοΈ the only royalty run company currently that is making good money is Gamuda Thank you for the insight. The company is credible and solid just the management is still Tongkat and old skool and headed by royalty in the board hence they move very slow while trying to transform as typical Malaysians companies does As long as their licensed with SC and BNM approval it is ultra safe to have money in their products as it would be regulated and no hanky panky Since the China Hustle, still unresolved until today, SC, I take with a bag of salt. As for BNM, news reports that they knew about 1MDB and did nothing about it. PMX is welcome change but the closets remains, who know what skeletons left. That's why I learn from sifus' of LYN Finance when I can find time to read. |
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Apr 19 2023, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Apr 19 2023, 04:46 PM) As Xander2k8 puts it, tongkat and cronism is in play, and list Gamuda remaining as making money. Why bother hearing about Public Mutual top performers because they are performing into sucking your money through high sales charges and redemption charges while investing underperformed funds π€¦ββοΈ if you know how and not do virtual trade you would have already trade your own rather than buying UT I heard Public Mutual had lots of top performers and EPF allowed but today so few mention of them. As I've put it, I was neither for or against Kenanga, and look to sifus' for guidance. Thank you for the recommendation. Yes, I am impress by KDI Save's liquidity. Thank you for the insight. Since the China Hustle, still unresolved until today, SC, I take with a bag of salt. As for BNM, news reports that they knew about 1MDB and did nothing about it. PMX is welcome change but the closets remains, who know what skeletons left. That's why I learn from sifus' of LYN Finance when I can find time to read. Why bother reading old news report from 10 years ago as we all already knew back then BNM was involved π€¦ββοΈ no central banks is so lax or stupid unless their political masters summoned them to do so π€¦ββοΈ PMX will not change but keep on holding on those skeletons because he has no balls to change and fired those political servants that is why people has no confidence in him π€¦ββοΈ To clean the slate in the 1st place AG, MACC, CS and BNM all has to go because they are carrying political baggage from the past appointed by the previous PM while Anwar keep on harping continuance while begging for co-operation π€¦ββοΈ |
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Apr 19 2023, 05:18 PM
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Apr 19 2023, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 19 2023, 05:18 PM) Yes Versa-i before 1030am same day withdrawal Super2047 liked this post
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Apr 19 2023, 06:14 PM
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