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Ramjade
post Apr 19 2023, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 19 2023, 06:14 PM)
Then what's the advantage of staying in Versa conventional?
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Higher returns, lower fees. The 4% is just promo feature to bring in customer.
https://versa.com.my/get-to-know-versa-cash...ey-market-fund/
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post Apr 19 2023, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 19 2023, 06:14 PM)
Then what's the advantage of staying in Versa conventional?
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Lower expense fee by 0.2% while getting better returns by an average 0.5% yearly on its base net return

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 19 2023, 06:47 PM)
Higher returns, lower fees. The 4% is just promo feature to bring in customer.
https://versa.com.my/get-to-know-versa-cash...ey-market-fund/
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Yes which is why I am only sticking with it at 4% until the promos runs in June because I doubt Versa will extend it while paying 0.8%pa on average monthly to top it up to 4%
joice11
post Apr 21 2023, 11:40 AM

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sorry new to this KDI and Versa, which is the better in term of return and liqulity?
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post Apr 21 2023, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(joice11 @ Apr 21 2023, 11:40 AM)
sorry new to this KDI and Versa, which is the better in term of return and liqulity?
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KDI Save - Straight forward, same day withdrawal (before 11am), return 3.5%pa...

Versa Cash - Next day withdrawal (before 3.3pm), return 4.0%pa (Mar 3.95% return, 0.05% bonus reimbursement for the 4% promotion)... (abit complicated due to unit price and bonus in cash and later convert back to unit)

Versa Cash-i - Same day withdrawal (before 10.30am), return 4.0%pa(Mar 3.08% return, balance bonus reimbursement ???)... Personally i still with Versa Cash, other sifu may comment...
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post Apr 21 2023, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(joice11 @ Apr 21 2023, 11:40 AM)
sorry new to this KDI and Versa, which is the better in term of return and liqulity?
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Your choice. You want same day withdrawal or higher returns.

Keep in mind versa-i rates is promo until June then will drop to around 3.2%p.a

For me personally I use KDI for the same day withdrawal and same day deposit.
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post Apr 21 2023, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(confusedway @ Apr 21 2023, 11:59 AM)
KDI Save - Straight forward, same day withdrawal (before 11am), return 3.5%pa...

Versa Cash - Next day withdrawal (before 3.3pm), return 4.0%pa (Mar 3.95% return, 0.05% bonus reimbursement for the 4% promotion)... (abit complicated due to unit price and bonus in cash and later convert back to unit)

Versa Cash-i - Same day withdrawal (before 10.30am), return 4.0%pa(Mar 3.08% return, balance bonus reimbursement ???)... Personally i still with Versa Cash, other sifu may comment...
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Yes Versa-I a lot of reimbursement of trailer fees and rebates from Versa until June only but liquidity is great because 8 hours later money is in the bank by 1830 after 1030 withdrawal execution

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 21 2023, 12:17 PM)
Your choice. You want same day withdrawal or higher returns.

Keep in mind versa-i rates is promo until June then will drop to around 3.2%p.a

For me personally I use KDI for the same day withdrawal and same day deposit.
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Yes Versa-I average 3.2% before the fund was intro into Versa then Feb major drop to 3.08% and the management fee is a bit higher so no doubt after June it will not extend the promo
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post Apr 21 2023, 12:59 PM

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One big turn off of Versa is it takes 2 days for the money to be in, and another one day for the money to be out....If you don't need high liquidity, Versa, else KDI for same day deposit and withdrawal.
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post Apr 21 2023, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 21 2023, 12:59 PM)
One big turn off of Versa is it takes 2 days for the money to be in, and another one day for the money to be out....If you don't need high liquidity, Versa, else KDI for same day deposit and withdrawal.
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Not for Versa-I if you want quick liquidity

If your KDI Save doesn’t have balance and you start deposit and withdrawal the same day it doesn’t work πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ which is why KDI Save stated T+1 for that reason πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

Same day withdrawal works provided you have an account balance in KDI Save only
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post Apr 21 2023, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Apr 21 2023, 01:09 PM)
Not for Versa-I if you want quick liquidity

If your KDI Save doesn’t have balance and you start deposit and withdrawal the same day it doesn’t work πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ which is why KDI Save stated T+1 for that reason πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

Same day withdrawal works provided you have an account balance in KDI Save only
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Why on earth you want to deposit and withdraw the same day? biggrin.gif too free nothing else to do? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 21 2023, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 21 2023, 01:12 PM)
Why on earth you want to deposit and withdraw the same day? biggrin.gif too free nothing else to do? biggrin.gif
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Some ppl make mistake πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ happened before because of UI/UX confusing and very uniform as the difference on KDI Save and Invest tab and notification are uniform

Some ppl want to amend the amount and many other reasons you can think off πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ
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post Apr 22 2023, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(confusedway @ Apr 21 2023, 11:59 AM)
KDI Save - Straight forward, same day withdrawal (before 11am), return 3.5%pa...

Versa Cash - Next day withdrawal (before 3.3pm), return 4.0%pa (Mar 3.95% return, 0.05% bonus reimbursement for the 4% promotion)... (abit complicated due to unit price and bonus in cash and later convert back to unit)

Versa Cash-i - Same day withdrawal (before 10.30am), return 4.0%pa(Mar 3.08% return, balance bonus reimbursement ???)... Personally i still with Versa Cash, other sifu may comment...
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So mean after the fee, we actually dont get the 4%?

QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Apr 21 2023, 12:49 PM)
Yes Versa-I a lot of reimbursement of trailer fees and rebates from Versa until June only but liquidity is great because 8 hours later money is in the bank by 1830 after 1030 withdrawal execution
Yes Versa-I average 3.2% before the fund was intro into Versa then Feb major drop to 3.08% and the management fee  is a bit higher so no doubt after June it will not extend the promo
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So mean after the fee, we actually get less then 4%?


QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 21 2023, 12:59 PM)
One big turn off of Versa is it takes 2 days for the money to be in, and another one day for the money to be out....If you don't need high liquidity, Versa, else KDI for same day deposit and withdrawal.
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its takes 2 days for money to in mean we will lost 2 days interest?


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post Apr 22 2023, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(joice11 @ Apr 22 2023, 11:47 AM)
So mean after the fee, we actually dont get the 4%?
So mean after the fee, we actually  get less then 4%?
its takes 2 days for money to in mean we will lost 2 days interest?
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versa will pay bonus to compensate 2 days lost (after bank in). so u wont lose anything.
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post Apr 22 2023, 05:28 PM

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Versa fees and promo rates sounds like fatten piggy and later slaughter.

How do KDI make money from KDI Save ?
I understand business is to make money.
I wish KDI and Versa could spell these out clearly.
I dig through Versa and can't find clearly so I focus on KDI.
I dig through KDI Save's T&C unable to find what KDI charge / make money.
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post Apr 22 2023, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(joice11 @ Apr 22 2023, 11:47 AM)
So mean after the fee, we actually dont get the 4%?
So mean after the fee, we actually  get less then 4%?
its takes 2 days for money to in mean we will lost 2 days interest?
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At the end you earn 4% net after charges but remember it is promo rate until JuneπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

What you are getting is the base net return plus rebate that is Versa to top it up to 4%

QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Apr 22 2023, 12:16 PM)
versa will pay bonus to compensate 2 days lost (after bank in). so u wont lose anything.
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Yes as long as the money deposit in before cut off as it will capture the fund price for the day

QUOTE(Pikichu @ Apr 22 2023, 05:28 PM)
Versa fees and promo rates sounds like fatten piggy and later slaughter.

How do KDI make money from KDI Save ?
I understand business is to make money.
I wish KDI and Versa could spell these out clearly.
I dig through Versa and can't find clearly so I focus on KDI.
I dig through KDI Save's T&C unable to find what KDI charge / make money.
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Versa is already transparent and showing you that it is going through a fund running by AHAM πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ and already stated clearly on the app and the fund price πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

KDI Save is through own internal treasury fund which is not that transparent other than daily returns

Why worry so much when both companies are licensed and regulated by SC πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ and when you are talking more than a billion fund size as well
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post Apr 24 2023, 11:14 AM

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Actually how this KDI invest work?

Is it you put rm250 and let it work for 1 year to make profit or you put rm250 and take/leave everytime it make profit?
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post Apr 24 2023, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(DanialTan1990 @ Apr 24 2023, 11:14 AM)
Actually how this KDI invest work?

Is it you put rm250 and let it work for 1 year to make profit or you put rm250 and take/leave everytime it make profit?
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it like UT. u dump money in . they will invest. either profit or lost
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post Apr 24 2023, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(DanialTan1990 @ Apr 24 2023, 11:14 AM)
Actually how this KDI invest work?

Is it you put rm250 and let it work for 1 year to make profit or you put rm250 and take/leave everytime it make profit?
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You put in and trust them to allocate the right ETF for you and just hope that the market performs well with right ETF that their robo allocated to your account

Loss or profit all depends on their robo allocated ETF to you
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post Apr 27 2023, 08:58 AM

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does register needs to b done use apps? i tried mobile n desktop. maciam cannot detect my live face....
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post Apr 27 2023, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Apr 27 2023, 08:58 AM)
does register needs to b done use apps? i tried mobile n desktop. maciam cannot detect my live face....
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You need able to Face ID on device but the app is very buggy on it πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

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Kenanga Digital Investing (KDI) is an online investment platform in Malaysia that offers a range of investment products, including stocks, exchange-traded funds (ETFs), and real estate investment trusts (REITs). KDI allows investors to trade and manage their investments conveniently and securely through its website and mobile app.
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No REITs at the moment πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ
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post Apr 28 2023, 02:09 PM

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Hi. Is 3.5% rate applicable for 1st rm50k only ?

 

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