since you know no honest why still bother to hire?

so you are telling me if someone call your HR and ask for same thing, your HR will happily disclose employees' salary information??

This is what it is....TS likes the candidates, want to make an offer...but cannot afford the price tag....so waste time to think of some asinine idea to snoop around for the information that he wants.....which many of us have already expressed the legality of those methods......i.e. he asking a friend who works at an MNC to mispresent and commit fraud to get the information that he needs and some other laughable exercise.

If the payslips are real, he will still lowball and say, "This is very good offer, you can grow in this company" and whatever half-assed nonsense that he can make up
If the payslips are fake, he will say " Gotcha, I knew your pay was not so high, so you should accept this lower offer, bery good edi, take it ok?" Which undoubtedly shows how sohai TS is for hiring forgers and fraudsters

Scary that TS/company is wasting time on non-issues.........better stay away from companies like these....it's gonna be a massive shitshow inside

Also TS failed to recognise that the candidates can walkaway.....TS is not the only employer around....so all in all, all this sandiwara for the benefit of us lol

This post has been edited by feynman: Oct 5 2021, 12:01 PM

Looks like TS gonna end up hiring low salary and low quality staff

of course................

Ini macam got budget only for myvi but want to buy civic type R.......then coming up with a ton of reasons about the reliability and the trustworthiness of the civic and somehow thinks because of that can lowball till the price of a myvi....

good entertainment

waste of forum space, not within budget range don't hire la, so simple

Reading through this thread, the TS hasn't made a single good argument, and then resorted to personal attacks against some of those debunking his nonsense ideas.

I keep being reminded of that Ipohmali70 character.

I wonder if we search the forum we will find a thread of a "candidate" telling everyone how great it was that his new employer checked the veracity of his payslips and offered him a salary in line with his previous and he is so thankful for this opportunity.

How come your mutual friend can know exactly these two people punya exact salary?

we all understand that even for clerk job salary is different based on experience, etc.

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Oct 5 2021, 12:16 PM

it is unethical to ask the prev. co punya salary from their HR without the consent of the applicant

bank statement? direct ask KWSP/SOCSO? without the consent of the applicant that is just so wrong under PDPA





This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Oct 5 2021, 12:19 PM

another backfire thread like ipohmali?

actually what will a Co call up the prev. co and ask for?

This post has been edited by sam04563: Oct 5 2021, 12:24 PM

I have personally see one fella jump celery from rm8K to rm15K , the current co who offer him that salary because he is talented

or maybe you wanna the best but pay the minimum?

There is unethical way around on this issue but I dont think it is wise to share it with TS, looking at his attitude on this.

https://dnh.com.my/employee-data-under-the-...ction-act-2010/
Under the PDPA, personal data cannot be shared with third parties unless consent of the individual is obtained.

payroll details are covered under PDPA

Mostly to confirm if the guy really worked there and whether he’s good.

Though IMO this is a dumb practice as if I’m confident enough to leave the contact to you, you’re unlikely to dig out anything from that.

This post has been edited by msacras: Oct 5 2021, 12:28 PM

用人不疑，疑人不用。

judging by the legal mess ts is bringing upon his company, he's going to have to submit his own job applications soon.

Together with his payslip, epf and bank statements to new company

Usually the KPI for recruitment team is closing vacant position within stipulated time. It can be within 30 days of vacancy or even 90 days, depends on the need of the company.

Other may use annual percentage of filling up rate.

Life is simple… why do people insist on making it complicated?

If you don’t think it’s worth to pay them that much, last drawn salary notwithstanding, then don’t hire.

If they feel you cannot pay them what their worth, forgery of payslip notwithstanding, then they won’t take the job.

Employment is just a willing buyer, willing seller relationship.

There are more things to life to occupy your mind, other than such petty things, that will only give you additional stress.