I nominate this to be the biggest backfired thread of 2021

On topic : If I had to give my 2 cents,

Unfortunately, past pay slips are P&C and as mentioned by feynman if you are going to go through all these legal trouble to verify and if they they did falsify pay slip then you proceed to not hire them?

If you suspect foul play, while would you still bother to go investigate instead of just dropping the candidate.

Could it be you like them but are looking for an excuse to shot change them on their remuneration?

I really cannot fathom any other explanation for your unscrupulous actions, heck my partner whos in a hr life services says hr reps / managers liek you are despicable.

For bigger MNC's that has done their homework they constantly update their teams globally on the average wage rates for junior, they then mention the range they are comfortable hiring for said positions to everyone in the company (there is a referral program hence why everyone is informed). That is transparency and efficiency.

Higher level employees are scoped and their salary are made based their capabilities and factoring in their past salary to provide a range. (No, they do not scoop around to verify their claimed salary and instead choose to take the word of the applicant, while cross checking with references n stuff to ensure other information is accurate.

Its funny, you mention that most people wont understand because it is a high paying position, but if you were in HR you would know higher positions don't necessarily correlate with value in most instances. (tell me what the past public bank ceo last drawn salary is then to get a JUSTIFIED jump like that?)

Big MNC's have salary benchmarks that they uphold and follow which is provided to them by market research, they then hire according to that range and in rare cases deviate by a small percentage, depending on how attractive that said employee is.

This post has been edited by bluetomato: Oct 5 2021, 01:48 PM

hahaha TS kena kantoi............talk so much of kok....end up sendiri also no integrity, tipu-tipu, sneaky sneaky.....Shouldn't be a surprised, it takes a shady crook to think of all those things to begin with

The TP3 will not work to find out his salary.
But TS for mdie die bodoh. But what to do..
You think if he got legal department he will be in /k crowd sourcing ideas?

Hahaha chances are he is the judge jury and executioner. Just be a family run company with his papa n mama being the bosses and he thinking if smarter than everyone

Yes, as a headhunter I can work for many clients. I have also checked the rules

ts basically selfish prick

All hu ha, just offer the salary commensurate to market standard and experience etc etc.

I believed you have others waiting for interview right.

Why make things so complicated and make yourself like a fool?

TP3 form can be fake however when the taxes are deducted, the company will know. If currently their salary is RM 5k and they state as RM 10k, when they will up the TP3 they will have to lie and say they are taxed YTD based on 10k.

I dont think you are a qualified headhunter

a real world headhunter wont do this kind of funny stunt

you are more like all in one staff in chinaman co

Come, let us know your boss hp number, we can talk to your boss about this

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Oct 5 2021, 01:35 PM

kesian TS kena stab for wanting to know the truth of the salaries.

btw, why TS still want to hire them if they lied? when u get the truth.
if they did not lie, their salary will be too high anyway for u to hire.

WTF TS LOGIC ?

And maybe inform us your company nane? Or at least the name of the road ur company located? Come on, if you’re really what you said, there’s nothing to be afraid of! There are always room to grow/improve if the “not so private” info become public and hit hard at ur company image, right? Lets grow together2 lo.

hi TS, can i know your company name?
i got insider that can help

If the market rate is 10k and they asked for 10k even if their current pay is 5k, whats the issue? U meant u prefer pay them lower even if market rate is 10K
or rather u prefer pay them up 5-10% from their last drawn salary regardless if the really qualified for 10k????
then payslip fake or not is no longer relevant

if their salary is 40k they asked 100k meaning theres market for their expertise, else gradually they will lower if over market rate. past salary is rather irrelevant.....their expertise is

The whole exercise is just like u wanna rub ur own balls saying u got experience workers at under market rate

standard HR practice to validate with previous employers, it should be in the form when you apply for the job. so yes, consent should be built into the application process already...

From the way I see how TS handle/response to this case, I think you are way overpaid for your role liao.

Care to disclose which generous and kind company you work for?

This post has been edited by dead_psycho: Oct 5 2021, 01:38 PM

typical HR. you should hire people based on experience and qualifications, not on previous salary
why you jealous they can get high pay is it?

Feel bad for ts lol

So many righteous warriors but stood for lies.

It’s better to skip those candidates who seems to lie. Their integrity is questionable.

They can fake payslips they can fake statements too so don’t see the need to go extra miles to catch their lies.

whatever you said you've implied what you're trying to do.
you're the worst kind of recruiter anyone may find out there.

Biggest red flag: judging a candidate based on their salary history.

I pray one day you end up working for a company that will not pay you based on your abilities.

Don't like that la. I hope one day TS future company will pay him/her based on abilities, which should be close to minimum wages.

headhunter my ass lah. Headhunter not gonna bother or do stupid shit like this. After they pass the candidate to employer and employer hire the staff, consider done already. since when headhunter worry about their client finance? I bet you just an hr in that cinamen company. Probably u the only hr in the department. In fact the staff salary probably less than 3k but u want to squeeze them and pay them 2k.

yeah damn sad ....most com in Msia like this
I heard a boss when asked biz bad? why cut staff salary? He answered, not really but since market so many com cut, i follow suit