My HR team called up. They did not want to disclose anything at all. They were very strict about this which is why I am also thinking of other methods.

I had been interview in a few company before (E&O, Genting). Before hiring, there is a consent form for us to sign to do a background check... Get them to sign form prior to hiring.. if info provided is fake.. that guy have integrity issues..

Actually, I think there is a way to find out by asking them to fill up a TP3 form. There have been others that are telling me that this can be used. I think based on their YTD tax payments I will be able to know. I will ask them to fill this up.

why are u so obsessed with others past salary, recruiter role is to evaluate candidates capability and offer market value salary

if you think they are faking payslips, you go ahead to report it after gathering evidences, provided that you have a lot of free time to do so

u aint no saint trying to verify people payslip thru illegal routes as well, people can bite u back too

Got probation period right, if they suck, then just throw them off the window. End of story.

My company is hiring 2 people and the salary slip they showed shows a very high pay. Now, I know from another mutual friend in the previous company that these 2 guys are working from that their salary is probably 35% less. I actually called up KWSP / EPF to find out based on their EPF number and SOCSO number however they refused to let my HR team get the previous information about this. How can I make a report to get KWSP / EPF to give me historical information on their previous salary?

I was thinking of asking my friend who works in an MNC to try submit their documents saying that he wants to hire them and that he wants to do a background check. Since he works in a well established MNC, I was wondering if KWSP / EPF will disclose this information. Thank you.

You can ask but they don't have to provide then, it's up to you to decide if you want to proceed with the hiring. It's as simple as that.

What you are doing here is as though you're so obsessed to know their past salary that you forget it's not for you to prove whether it's true or not, your job is to hire according to budget. Even if you somehow manage to prove that the slip is fake, what you gotta do.....you gonna say "Gotcha, i knew your pay is not that high, so here's an offer"? You would do the opposite, you'll not hire someone who faked documents......so why are you wasting company resources and  time to prove something that has got no bearing on your hiring process?

hes gauging someone value through last drawn salary. lol

If the market rate is 10k, but my company has withheld appraisal for 5 years (due to half covid and half company performance) and my salary is at 5k, does that still deem me as not a good candidate?

Quite simple bro: if you feel it's right candidate, just pay the asking price. You want to find out the truth or lowball just because you deem fit, you'll end up losing the candidate and wasting your time in the same time.

To me, bank statements are far too p&c, the question is, if it came to you, would you give your statements? No right?

My 2cents, from experience.

There is no way to get from any sources.
U can't go to bank/kwsp. If they give u details of other people, you sue them for breaking pdpa.

You can try their current company as to verify payslip.
Don't ask for what's their current salary, but verify the payslip that the worker provide.
Then the company might help to verify.
Other than that there is no way to check.
Even in MNC there will be no salary details given when background check is done.
Only u will find out if bnakrupt/any law suit/any police report but no way to find out what their salary is

Yes, if someone's salary is RM 5k and they state is RM 8k for example, I would have a problem since now I would have to pay them 10k. This is an example but I think  you need to understand how these things work.

You're lucky that you're in msia where you can be sloppy in acquiring and handling private data.....still you better check with a lawyer on this and hope that the candidates do not know the law. Acquiring private data without their consent and not through a legal compliant process is a criminal offense in many countries and could get you in trouble.

If you are are hiring manager, you should demonstrate some maturity here instead of playing stupid games like these. The objective at hand is if you want to hire the candidates based on your impression of the interview. If you want to hire, then it's a question of affordability, either you can give them a package that they are satisfied or you can't and you walk away and hire someone cheaper. What's the point of doing all these monkey business? In as much as you do all these nonsense, those 2 candidates can choose to walk away if they have options. It's supply and demand. They can jack up their rates and if the rates are too high for anyone in the market to afford them, they will eventually settle for less. You don't need to snoop around trough dubious questionable means.

It is also obvious that you have no idea how the big leagues play. MNCs have policies and more often than not are drafted in accordance to privacy laws of their respective countries of origin. To think that you could somehow get your friend to put his or her job on the line to commit such fraud is just laughable. Background checks of MNCs are outsourced to backcheck companies because if you mess this up, you can get really expensive lawsuits in the US, Canada, UK etc, that's why they get the professional companies to do it. To authorise a backcheck, the candidate file needs to be in the end of the hiring stage in the recruitment tool and it will cost the company for such a check.

If your friend is as stupid as you, then he'll inappropriately misrepresent his company with the intent to commit fraud by reaching out to EPF to acquire private information of some strangers. This is call social engineering and identity theft.......nice business you have got there.

Actually, I think there is a way to find out by asking them to fill up a TP3 form. There have been others that are telling me that this can be used. I think based on their YTD tax payments I will be able to know. I will ask them to fill this up.

no bro actually u dont have to. just offer them in accordance to the budget your company have. if hes salary 80k/month u pay 100k ah. no right

This is not a game. I think you are someone who also would do something like this because you are defending the ones who have no integrity. Shame on you for not standing up for what is right. Yes, it is supply and demand but would you spend RM 50k on a fake LV bag and not care? Why should you care? It looks the same and people would all think it's a genuine item, no? Only you would know it's fake and that everyone around you is being fooled however would you pay RM 50k of your money for something which IS NOT GENUINE?

There is a lot of stuff that goes into the hiring process FYI. It's not just hiring someone and paying them market rates. The market decides their rate IF THEY EARNED IT and not by them FAKING IT just because that is what the market standard is paying.

I was asked to give them the TP3 form so that I can know what their YTD tax amounts are like. If they fake that LHDN would know.