It's time again for me to find out what dog kibbles do you feed your furkid. Sorry if this comes too often for some of you who were here when I did the last poll. I couldnt find it anymore and Casper is turning 1 year old so I want to get him adult dog kibble but had no idea what to get. Come, please share your thoughts with me - appreciated.


Cheers,
Pennywise

casper eat what brand of dog food now ?

i vote for Blackwood

I saw quite a few Westies today.... really nice dogs. Anyway, kibble, you can mention which brand you have tried loh.... you did say Orijen wasn't suitable.... maybe California Natural or Acana is good.... so far my 2 large dogs are eating Acana, quite good.

My maltese are on Orijen, Maya is on Acana.

He is eating Innova for puppies (red bag) now. I am asking to see if there is anything else to change to for better adult kibble choices.

Hun, where you saw Westie today? I am looking for a female.

The breeder gave him Pro Plan, then I gave him Nutri Source (which I only found out on Sun that it wasnt good). Then I gave him Eaglepack, Orijen and now Innova. I was thinking of California Natural also. I noticed that California Natural and Innova are both from the same manufacturer called Natura, right?

Acana? How does it fare?

Maya is what breed oh?

This post has been edited by Pennywise: Sep 10 2007, 12:18 AM

I only feed my dog chicken from chicken rice shop.... =p

Yah, got a few. 1 guy had a pair.... then I saw another one tied to a table, it was sleeping underneath.

Yups, Natura is the big manufacturer, but then CN taste quite bland and some dogs won't readily eat coz no taste. Ingredient wise, so far it can improve coat by controlling shedding, slim down obese or fat dogs and improve skin condition. Coz my boxer got quite sensitive skin, he can get sores and bumps all over if the food is wrong.

Now we are trying Acana on my boxer and lab. So far my boxer got no skin condition when on Acana. Today we just bought our 2nd bag. Using Adult feed, chicken pack. They also have a variety for different requirements that your dog needs. There is a salmon and potatoes, which might be good for skin.

Got a few? Oh, you mean today's event is it? I was thinking where you saw Westies... so California Natural is bland and no taste? I need something tasty but not too high in protein like Evo or Orijen as 40% for a indoor dog is TOO much in my opinion. Unless I bring him out everyday to run about, it's excess protein turned into fats and skin problems.

Any suggestions besides Acana?

My sasha only eat this brand "Choice" other she will rather dun eat ... tried other brand and all end up giving away.

Can you post a picture of this particular brand?

Oh sorry actually it is call "nutro choice"
You have that in your list already .

blackwood 1 meal, barf 2 meals.

Was feeding my Goldie canidae for 8 months ++
Just change to eagla pack because very difficult to obtain canidae always run out of stock

I use Eagle Pack, Innova Evo and Canidae. Different dogs get different food

I'm using blackwood, so far so good. But lately she seems losing interest on them, so last nite just bought Acana.........haven try though.

for the feeding portion of a puppy,we base on weight to cup ratio..so which cup should we use yeah?

Normally they measure using an 8oz cup......u can go get one of those cups from the vet. I just use chinese soup spoon. 1 big scoop is around 10g, so u agak2 lah........

This post has been edited by joanalooidog: Sep 10 2007, 09:15 AM

Oic... I have heard of this brand but never really look into it. Will try later.

What's barf?

Canidae seems like many people use, is it better than Science Diet?

I tried Eaglepack before, Casper dont really like. Some more I read on many sites / review say Eaglepack is over-rated. So, I'm not sure but mainly I dont buy because Casper dont eat.

Innova Evo is like Orijen 40% protein, not suitable for Casper - skin problems. Canidae, is it available at your shop? How much per pack those 2.5kg or 3kg pack.

Seems many people use Blackwood and at the same time many now using Acana. I will look into Acana as I was told by a pet shop that Blackwood packs of punch = heaty, etc.

Eukanuba feed before
Nutriedge
Now I give Royal Canin

But now I still cannot see any different between this 3 food... but prince like Royal Canin I think because the smell

My gr pup is on Proformance currently.

Yayaya heard other say Royal Canin smell very good and tasty . Furkid will love Royal Canin

Once dogs taste Royal Canin, it would be hard to change them to other brands if the dog is a picky eater heheheh....

I fed my GR the following before and these are my comments based on my dog:
Bear in mind different kibbles suit different dog best!

1) CN puppy
OK for me, kibble size big enough for my GR. Ingredient and smell ok.
Only complaint - poo tend to be soft.

2) Nutriedge Puppy
OK also. Kibble size is large enough. Smell stronger than CN.
Complaint: I found worm in unfinished portion very fast. Have to buy smaller packet to avaid worm thingy - not economical....

3) Innova Puppy & Innova EVo
Kibble ingredient good and smell nice, but the kibble size too small. Sometimes, my GR choke when he eat too fast. Heard that they have change the kibble size to 2 types, maybe will give it another try.

4) Orijen
Good ingredient and kibble has a very strong smell. Originally loved by my GR but refuse to take when he fall sick that time. Maybe too strong smell!

5) Nutro Large breed puppy
Not suitable for my GR. Cause him to drop lots of fur.

As such, I give my vote to CN

This post has been edited by won: Sep 10 2007, 01:56 PM

Was feeding EaglePack - more fur but shit more also . eat alot
currently on Origen - shiny coat , eat more than alot now .

Hey, you had the same problem with me when my dog was on Nutro, shed so much till almost botak hahaha.

Yups, CN does make the poo a bit soft.

Yalor, at that time (4 months) somemore he was in "sprouting" stage. With the fur dropping by patches, he was really a ugly sight!
Tall & thin, gangly looking (funny body proportion) and patches of fur missing, my friend thought I was torturing my dog.

Hahah... same same. People thought I never groom properly or I pulled out the fur. So scary.... now I don't dare touch Nutro hahaha....

Not all doggies cannot take nutro....
My friend 2 yorkies & peke currently taking Nutro L&R and she said they are ok with it. Previously, her doggies were taking RC. She said RC fattening

Ok so Nutro is out from the list.

California Natural, Hun said bland so some picky eaters like my Casper probably wont eat it.

I am tempted with Orijen but then it gives Casper skin problems.

that why my very call me take RC but see prince now... 22KG only... where got fat wor but for me fur abit darken liao

Prince doesn't look underweight from the various photos posted, but 22kg is really a bit light for a GR.
Shushu is now 28.8kg, about 6kg more than prince and he is only 11 months....

If like Hun say, Royal Canine taste good, then dogs wont like other brands - wouldnt that be very troublesome?

My furkids take CN. So far the results pretty good lu. Abby's fur is shinier now.

But Hun says California Natural taste very bland. Err... this may sound rude but do you taste dog food? Any review on CN?

I guess it is more bland than the other brands...
I didn't taste it. I did soak the kibbles with milk (my dog injure his mouth and vet advice for kibble soaking) - CN with Milk smell ok. The rest of the kibbles with milk smells .

origen available in malaysia! where? grainless formula is it not?

Yes it is available in Malaysia for about RM46 at Seapark Pet Supplies, SS2 or you can also buy from White Palace from this forum.

actually soak with milk & with warm water..any diff?

Hahah... picky dogs would mine. Dogs that just love food won't mind. My boxer and lab would gobble it up but my ckcs, a bit slow and she is picky a bit.

so mrs chew sells origen RM46 for how many kilos?

RM46 for 2.5kg but this is for Puppy wan.

i think its for about 2kg of orijen at 46
i wanted to feed orijen but too high in protein and carb for my small breed dog and he is kept indoors most of the time i didnt take...

im feeding acana now...but after this i may change...coz mikey seems to be dropping more fur when i comb him every night since he changed to acana...

got orijen adult for sale there or not?

i know pets wonderland at 1U jus started selling orijen adult....RM46
they also got the one wif fish one....RM63

but of coz u can buy from white palace also

err... who is white palace? he is a forumer here?

yup....he is...he started the maltese thread..u can go click on his name and pm him for more info la...

I think White Palace started Dog Lover Restaurant! V3!, Come Dine in & talk talk, got aircond~~~ also... If you have a big or active dog, Orijen is the way to go after reading so many good reviews.

However, for me, Westies are prone to skin diseases and mine is at home everyday indoor so 40% protein is not necessary for him.

Other - Purina One

RB

My Queen likes Blackwoods the best

Planning to try Science Plan and Royal Canine.

I used Origen and Frontie(dun ask me what brand is this, I got it along with Queen ) Queen is so-so with Origen. Sometimes she would just leave it and make a treaty with the cats in the home, exchange food

Is Royal Canin suitable for small dog? Is it really that good hehe? and what are the price like? Thanks.

I really can't compare which brand is the best for my sasha coz she so picky on her food.

ya...i would like some feedback on royal canin too...i always see the packeting is not really appealing and then i don hear a lot of reviews on it...

not very sure the price though .
but is kinda expensive too .

royal canin is expensive, especially if u wanna buy those breed specific kibbles, like specific for shih tzu, poodles.........
THe kibbles size is small, and reall smells good, looks oily than others and more moisture. I once got a sample pack, and use it as treats for FIFI, and she really loves it, even i love the smell also, haha.........
I've smell BW, nutriedge, acana, nutro, eaglepack, royal canin, and i can say royal smell's nice, and i think the taste is better. So i really do think that, once our dog tried it, v can hardly change to other kibbles.......And the ingredients doesn't look impressive for that price. But anyway, up to u to decide lah. If its good for your dog, then ok lah........

This post has been edited by joanalooidog: Sep 11 2007, 08:46 AM

Science Diet? Anyone using?

I have heard about Blackwood since before I had Casper. For me, Blackwood is like Orijen / Innova Evo wanna-be. They packs a punch in nutrients but not as much as Orijen / Evo.

I am thinking of getting Innova but that happen to be the bloody most expensive dog biscuit I have ever bought. At the same time, I am tempted to try Royal Canine but then since it smell so good, I worry Casper wont eat anythign else (yes, he is a picky eater).

science diet has a reputation of being the most terrible dog kibble around. IIRC it is the corn in it. Period.

This post has been edited by madmoz: Sep 11 2007, 11:27 AM

lilcatty tried innova(if not mistaken) and she says that copper's shit smell very bad...

i think im gonna grab a sample pack of royal canin too and see if mikey loves it...he don seem to like acana as well although he prefers is more than BW..nowadays i have to mix his kibbles with something sweet like orange juice like that to make him eat...

anyone of you have the contact number for seapark pets ss2? i seem to have deleted it from my address book

Sea Park Pet Supplies S/B
35 & 37, Jalan SS2/55,
47300 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor.

03 - 78740682
03 - 78772032

how come seapark pet supplies so popular oh?their stuff cheaper ah?
issit located near the mcD or the hawker center there near ss2 morning market

are u sure dogs can take orange juice or lemon juice???
Better just add some water enuf. If u wan, can add some glucose.


their stuff not cheap also. They r popular coz they sell a variety of kibbles and accessories mah.

i find that they are often more honest/forthcoming than other pet stores but some ppl (esp new customers) find them a bit 'cold'

not sure...i haven been to seapark...

Wow, are you sure? My gf is feeding her Japanese Spitz this brand. Never thought its that bad.

Do you have any URL that says such statement? I'd like to prove it to her. Thanks.

Innova make the poo smell bad ah? Innova or Innova Evo? They're different right?

Acana or Blackwood... I think I might try out Acana. By the way, why orange juice? I thought dogs stomach very acidic - so if with orange juice... then wouldnt that be very bad?

Because they are friendly and helpful. They are also a pro at grooming Westies. ihawk98 and myself goes there. Its the same row with the Poh Kong.

Yes, I also think they are friendly and very honest. They have taught me many things when I told them I am first time dog owner.

Where you live? Is SS2 very far from you?

Lamb n Rice
Adult Maintenance
I have only seen this one sold by vets, must cost an arm and a leg!

would be a good starting point. google is your best friend.

if you really want to know what chicken-by-product meal or meat-by-product meal is;



Source: Dr Fosters and Smith

Some might dismiss all this as a blatant internet based anti-science plan/smear movement though, the choice is ultimately yours.

Anti Science Plan Article 1
More complaints

Also read this before going hunting for your next packet of dog food.

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Added on September 11, 2007, 1:42 pmdisclaimer: I am sure pedigree, alpo and other supermarket brands are just as bad, they however do not market their food as 'premium' quality or at 'premium' prices

This post has been edited by madmoz: Sep 11 2007, 07:55 PM

madmoz,
THanks for the link, I will show it to my gf tonight and make sure she stops with Science Diet.

i tried b4 blackwood.....

but i feel that my dog tends to have more poo than usual.....need to pick up so many 'gold' in 1 day....

tat's y duwan feed edi

Pet shop suggested that Blackwood is actually very compact, hence no need to feed much. If feed much, then sure a lot of 'goldbar' will drop out.

pennywise..i didnt really put a lot so its ok...i oni put 2 teaspoon...jus enough to make his kibbles sweeter so that he would take them...my puppy is exceptionally picky for his age and he would rather starve than to eat something he don like...so i got no choice...

plusi haven been to seapark coz i got no car

LOL for me Nutro Choice is really my choice since Copper's fur improved alot and everyone likes his fur texture and previously Copper had Innova Evo, yeah, unbearable smell of his poo >_< guess diff dogs suits diff brand of Kibbles best is to find the most suitable ones for him LOL

yes, methinks so too... start with the better ones like california, canidae, evo and go by process of elimination. i really want to try orijen next.

Been feeding my dog eukanuba, that's the best brand around my area at dat time.....but the problem with it is that very easily get worms in the food.

So tried Canidae. My dog loves it. But bought a small pack, so cant really tell how good is it yet.

Then emergency (shop ran out of the brand) bought science plan. Aiks...dog shit is like lumpy, liquidity like dat.

Anywayz, going back to Canidae.

http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_re...index.php/cat/1

saw this website the other day.

Yes, Royal Canin is pretty suitable for any dog. For small dogs, the kibble are quite tiny, I got a sample but gave to my hamsters instead hahahah.... smells really nice. I only have Royal Canin for cat at home, which is to feed my hedgehogs. I know it is addictive coz my hedgehogs like RC more than Orijen.

It is a pretty nice smelling and oily dogfood, what I heard is it has lots more flavour so that is why dogs are so addictive.... but if compare ingredients with holistic brands, of course will choose holistic lah.

RC comes in many variety. Got for mini, small, large, joint problem.... some even for specific breeds I think.... I can't remember much about RC for dogs.

Recommend me a hollistic dog food that is not 40% high in protein (like ORijen and Evo) and yet its not bland (like California Natural) and not over-rated (like Eaglepack). Hehehe... Thanks in advance!

Hahahah.... try Canidae.... or Go Natural..... there are a few other brands but I have forgotten the names.... For me, I always like to get samples 1st before buying.... Go Natural got trial pack, Canidae I am not sure lah.

Canidae and Go Natural eh? Ok... is Acana hollistic as well?

Acana can be considered holistic. Acana does not contain artificial colors, flavors, or preservatives. So pretty good lah. So far my boxer's stool and skin is good.

Another brand is called Solid Gold but only a few petshops carry this brand. I have never tried it on my dogs but it is a holistic brand. Quite expensive too. I think more expensive than Origen.

Its quite hard for me to find Go Natural, so I think Acana is possibly my choice, especially when they are from the same manufacturer as Orijen.

Go Natural I think Pet Safari got.... but then these are limited brands in the market, like Solid Gold.

Just try out Acana. Maybe try out the Salmon and Potatoes la, it is for sensitive skin.

I would then suggest Canidae. It is actually very decent food

im feeding acana but my furkid seems to be dropping more fur lately when i groom...so i think im gonna change to mayb RC or orijen after this....might even grab a sample pack of blackwood and try that again...

solid gold is good. i have used this b4

how does solid gold taste like?

sorry i love my dogs but i won't eat dog kibbles
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but ceaser taste like salty luncheon meat.

the rating now is Orijen got 8 ppl vote and blackwood got 8 ppl vote too...
so many people feed their furkid this Orijen brand edi

Canidae, Blackwood or Acana?

Can I get samples of these in the pet store?

i wan try orijen geh but i scare mikey overweight...

so far i get Eagle pack and Royal Canin sample before from ss2 pet shop.
hmmm...but then Canidae , Blackwood or Acana not too sure.
normally u buy dog food from ss2 sea park supplies right ?
hope they got some sample of those dog food brand u wanted to let ur furkid test
Not very sure they got give sample pack for customer or not

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Added on September 11, 2007, 10:52 pmsame here...
i wanted to buy Orijen also...
but i worry both of my furkid will be heaty and become fatty bum bum later


This post has been edited by Digitral: Sep 11 2007, 10:52 PM

i have been told to feed 30% less than normal if using orijen

Yes you need to feed less if you're using orijen as it contains 40+% protein and is already alot more nutricious then most of the other dog kibbles.

Just sharing my experience of using Orijen here. I switched my puppy from ANF (fed by petshop) to Orijen and after about one month of using Orijen, I find that my corgi is somehow allergic to either one of the meat in Orijen or it is just allergic to the high protein content.

It started getting worse when I saw that she has a alot of patches in the skin with some hardened yellowish discharge that will make the fur drop off. Something like dandruff, so i decided to switch to another brand in case it gets worse. Not to mention Orijen produces very soft and lumpy stool which makes cleaning up a total chore.

The petshop recommend me a brand called Pinnacle Holistic Trout and Sweet Potatoes and after using it for about a week now, I feel that her skin problems seems to be getting better. Will continue using it and monitor her progress. Anyone tried this brand before?

uh oh, one negative report for orijen. Care to share what breed is your furkid and how much/often you feed him/her?

I dont want to lari to Pet Safari every time I want to purchase dog food neh. If can, I prefer to support local pet store in Klang or some friends like jtl or Seapark Pet Supplies. One of the reason why I go Seapark Pet Supplies is that, if I'm their long time customer, buy everything and even grooming got special price - so that makes me happy.

Ok, just let me research first. One thing I dont really like is those dogfood labelled for all life-stages. I also need to find a brand where I can find in Klang also so I dont have to travel up and down every time I run out.

Wah liao ehhh... Acana got Ajinomoto is it?! Are you serious or not? Regardless, I think I'd give it a try since they are from the same manufacturer as Orijen. Actually, my sis tempted me to get ORijen again. I also want to get Orijen wan but then due to skin disease, I cannot get them for Casper, even if I feed him 30% less. 40% protein is too much for a indoor non-active dog. Even the review in dogfoodanalysis said so.

How's the comment? Why did you change then?

Wah liao eh, not many ppl eat kibbles wan leh. HAhahahaha...

Yea lor... blackwood also so popular. Yea, everyone likes Orijen cause 40% protein, but if dont burn out or convert to muscles, becomes fats.

Wont overweight wan laaaa... just feed him little portion lor.

I felt that Eaglepack is over-rated somehow. It was one of the brand I wanted to purchase most but after my dog didnt like it, I felt like it's no good for me and hence become over-rated. Even non premium dogfood, my dog can finish a 3kg pack but Eaglepack, nearly had to throw away.

Royal Canine and Blackwood are my other options after Acana. Yes, I normally buy from there so I will go kebas some sample pack. Yes, they do and they gave me Evanger before but Casper ALSO dont really like. Good luck with Orijen - shd not be a problem if you play with your dog a lot,

Yeap that is correct.

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Added on September 11, 2007, 11:18 pmYes, I had the same skin problem with my West Highland. So I changed his kibbles to Innova and now he is about 1 year of age, I started this topic to help decide on which adult dogfood to go with.

I feed my Westie twice a day, once at 8am and another at 6pm. Orijen is really too much protein for my small dog (weighs 7kg) and then inactive lifestyle with only play indoor.

This post has been edited by Pennywise: Sep 11 2007, 11:18 PM

i changed to eagle pack holistic because solid gold was not available for a long long time last year (until pet safari stocked it)
i have no problems with eagle pack but feel like swithcing back to a 'super premium' brand

Adult vs Puppy Food

Don't be fooled, more often than not the puppy vs adult labeling is a marketing gimmick.

From the same kibble review page we always visit!

Didn't know this before but this seems to be a pretty convincing article on kibble rotation.

This post has been edited by madmoz: Sep 11 2007, 11:31 PM

i think im gonna go baack to blackwood and use my method like that is mixing some sweet juices into his food la...i like blackwood coz it doesnt make his poo stink and he is also quite healthy looking when eating on it....

acana i think mikey's body don really acept it so his fur dropping more...so after this im gonna change back to BW mostly...

Yes, Pinnacle is a very good brand as well.