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adele123
post Jul 25 2025, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(raul88 @ Jul 24 2025, 07:22 PM)
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fyi, baby medical insurance is very expensive.

if you ignore all the noises, medical insurance is the same for kids and adult. after all, what you need is someone pay the hospital bill if you are sick. now the problem is babies get sick alot when they are younger. so this resulted in frequent hospitalisation and thus resulting in more expensive medical insurance.

looks like you have tried searching online, so i summarise to a few potential option (realistically). we are not here to debate why babies masuk hospital often and whether those hospitalisation is necessary because that's beyond me and that wont be helpful to your question anyway.

1) you buy medical insurance from agent. this is likely to cost AT LEAST 150 a month if you want low deductible amount like 300 500. If you are ok to go higher deductible, i may be cheaper. how much higher deductible. 5k 10k... etc... but this is probably not something suitable for you.
2) you probably need to buy as family plan, as you have pointed out above (not sure what's the cost, you do your own maths)
3) as cruel as it sounds, private medical insurance may not be the option for you. you can consider this maybe after your child grows abit older, the cost of medical insurance starts to dive around age 5 to 6 also.

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post Jul 26 2025, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Jul 25 2025, 11:43 AM)
I just think selling an insurance policy under the guise of an investment product is the crux of the issue from what you described.
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sadly the product sell by bank on behalf for insurance compay all are as investment product
cuz banker need to hit high sales target which is impossible to achieve by selling medical card alone

end up agent is actually more ethical
JIUHWEI
post Jul 28 2025, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Kelefeh @ Jul 26 2025, 10:53 AM)
sadly the product sell by bank on behalf for insurance compay all are as investment product
cuz banker need to hit high sales target which is impossible to achieve by selling medical card alone

end up agent is actually more ethical
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Everybody also got KPI to hit, mouths to feed at home.

Banks do make it very convenient as a one-stop center for deposits, loans, investments, etc.
Which is good.

Just like how you buy a new car from your local dealer, which most probably is also a 4S center where you go for your regular services, paint & body workshop as well.
Yet it doesn't stop you from going to your local workshops either for other lubcricants, oils, whatever it may be, from brands that you just prefer or trust.

So it's not a matter of who is more ethical.
There are one stop centers that can cater for a full range of services, there are also boutique shops with competitive services, and also specialty shops.

There is also no stopping any of them from engaging each other for fulfillment.

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post Jul 28 2025, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Jul 25 2025, 04:54 PM)
maybe this has mentioned before somewhere in this thread, but I guess won't hurt to ask again  hmm.gif

basically, AIA has sent revision letter recently, and you'd guessed it, it's about price hike. they're giving reason along the line of "rising medical costs", and not the first time this has happened (precisely this will be the 2nd time).

back in 2024, my insurance premium rose from 3k/annum to 3.6k. aight fine. then very shortly after, BNM released interim measures to curb premium adjustments till 2026 (I don't have full knowledge of what was outlined in the list of measures taken)

this month AIA sent this revision letter about another readjustment, stating that for the 26-27 premium payable will be increased by ~6% to >3.8k/annum. then further forecasting that in 27-28, it'll be >4.1k (7.5% hike relative to the previous year), 28-29 it'll be >4.4k (another 7% hike relative to the previous year).

it's even worse for older age people like my parent (>60yo, also using AIA), the relative hike is >10% for 2027 and 2028, and on 2028 onwards the premium hikes to >10k/annum, compared to 6k/annum in 2023 (2024 hiked to 7.5k). it would grow to almost 70% hike for 2028.

though, there's a statement mentioning "please note that the premiums payable from policy anniversary in 2027 and 2028 are indicative and not guaranteed and may be subject to change"

the vague question that I wanna ask, is this really normal? the hike is way too high and I don't think it's actually following the inflation rate (ofc I don't think, but reality may be different)
has anyone also received similar revision letter around this year, in a format where they forecast the premium hike for the next few years?

more info: this is about A-Plus Health, part of A-LifeLink 2 life insurance.
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You can approach your agent, ask for a ST with a revision back to your initial premium levels.
See if you like what you see.

Then, you choose to either maintain the new premiums, or adjust it back to your initial premiums.
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post Jul 29 2025, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Jul 28 2025, 01:41 PM)
Everybody also got KPI to hit, mouths to feed at home.

Banks do make it very convenient as a one-stop center for deposits, loans, investments, etc.
Which is good.

Just like how you buy a new car from your local dealer, which most probably is also a 4S center where you go for your regular services, paint & body workshop as well.
Yet it doesn't stop you from going to your local workshops either for other lubcricants, oils, whatever it may be, from brands that you just prefer or trust.

So it's not a matter of who is more ethical.
There are one stop centers that can cater for a full range of services, there are also boutique shops with competitive services, and also specialty shops.

There is also no stopping any of them from engaging each other for fulfillment.
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trust me those bank staff are not train to help client to process claim
in fact majority of them will just ask client to call the insurance company themselves shakehead.gif
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post Jul 29 2025, 10:34 AM

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Great Eastern now has THREE medical insurance riders on-shelf. As I recall in the past, they only ever had one such product at any one time. E.g. SmartMedic, then SmartMedic Xtra, then SmartMedic Million, and then SmartMedic Shield.

But now, in addition to SmartMedic Shield, they have:
- Smart Health Protector
- Great MediValue

Can anyone differentiate between the 3 plans? I upgraded from SMX to SMS previously - should I upgrade to SHP or GMV?

Any idea why they are having so many different products now, when in the past they consolidated into a single offering?
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post Jul 29 2025, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Kelefeh @ Jul 29 2025, 10:10 AM)
trust me those bank staff are not train to help client to process claim
in fact majority of them will just ask client to call the insurance company themselves  shakehead.gif
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Well, to be fair, they are only selling products on behalf of the insurer.
Just like how telco providers are now selling phones on behalf of the device companies.
Any and all defects and/or warranty claims should rightly be directed back to the device companies.

With that said, again, every classroom you will get the top scorers as well as the ones who may need a bit more help.

There will be good apples and bad apples everywhere lah.
Itu biasa kan?
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post Jul 31 2025, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Jul 29 2025, 01:40 PM)
Well, to be fair, they are only selling products on behalf of the insurer.
Just like how telco providers are now selling phones on behalf of the device companies.
Any and all defects and/or warranty claims should rightly be directed back to the device companies.

With that said, again, every classroom you will get the top scorers as well as the ones who may need a bit more help.

There will be good apples and bad apples everywhere lah.
Itu biasa kan?
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Im talking about the majority here

Majority bank staff don't know a single thing at all regarding insurance claim
They can't even handle simple medical card claim
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post Jul 31 2025, 01:02 PM

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According to this AIA website.

What services can you expect from the bancassurance sales staff?
https://www.aia.com.my/en/help-support/impo...surance-en.html

The claim process, If and when you buy i lindung from kwsp, ......
( I think it would be the same if you buy online insurance too)



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QUOTE(Kelefeh @ Jul 31 2025, 12:44 PM)
Im talking about the majority here

Majority bank staff don't know a single thing at all regarding insurance claim
They can't even handle simple medical card claim
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Then... maybe choose to buy from Life Planners?

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post Aug 1 2025, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Jul 31 2025, 01:10 PM)
Then... maybe choose to buy from Life Planners?
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those who bought from bank actually not planning to buy from the start
they just walk into bank and wanna put fd but got sweet talked by bank staff who presentation focus more on return & investment

then when client want to withdraw only realised they bought insurance or realise the money they can get back is far less from what they have deposited

especially the chinese bank nod.gif
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post Aug 1 2025, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Kelefeh @ Aug 1 2025, 10:48 AM)
those who bought from bank actually not planning to buy from the start
they just walk into bank and wanna put fd but got sweet talked by bank staff who presentation focus more on return & investment

then when client want to withdraw only realised they bought insurance or realise the money they can get back is far less from what they have deposited

especially the chinese bank  nod.gif
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Yeah sadly this fits into what a former chinese bank employee storied to me.
She quit months later sebab can't live with the guilt looming over her head.
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post Aug 1 2025, 05:15 PM

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Anybody can elaborate what kind of scheme is this?
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post Aug 1 2025, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(daidragon12 @ Aug 1 2025, 05:15 PM)
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Anybody can elaborate what kind of scheme is this?
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While waiting for responses to your query, I googled and found Maybe perhaps something like this.

Health360
https://www.prubsn.com.my/export/sites/prud...INAL-HI-ENG.pdf

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...9y40Y5AOz42k-tm

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post Aug 1 2025, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(daidragon12 @ Aug 1 2025, 05:15 PM)
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Look at the link provided. Basically you need to understand how you current medical plan works, and look at this new medical plan offered.

The newer plan comes with higher deductible and co-takaful, and hopefully higher limit than your current plan.

I would recommend seriously looking into it, switching into higher deductible to lower down the overall premium that you have to pay. for example, i can see that they have deductible of 500, 1000, 3000 and also 10% co-takaful.

I think going for 1000, 3000 or 10% co-takaful is a worthwhile option to go for. in the long run, the hopes is that you pay less premium and being charge lower charges.

i wont elaborate too much, just giving general pointers. of course, please do your due diligence.
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post Aug 5 2025, 10:20 PM

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Checking in with Malaysians who have experience upgrading their insurance package after the age of 40.

How much do you pay for your monthly insurance premium now? and did you choose the flat month rate until age 99 option?

I've recently been given 2 quotations from 2 different brands, both also have significant increase in amount for coverage up to age 99. Significant increase when i compare to my current premium which i bought 15 years ago and i'm still paying the same price until today.

Appreciate some insights, thanks!
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QUOTE(zenwell @ Aug 5 2025, 10:20 PM)
Checking in with Malaysians who have experience upgrading their insurance package after the age of 40.

How much do you pay for your monthly insurance premium now? and did you choose the flat month rate until age 99 option?

I've recently been given 2 quotations from 2 different brands, both also have significant increase in amount for coverage up to age 99. Significant increase when i compare to my current premium which i bought 15 years ago and i'm still paying the same price until today.

Appreciate some insights, thanks!
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Life insurance or medical insurance?
Both Standalone or ILP used for comparison?
When you are 15 yrs younger, the chances of medical illness claim would be much lower than 15 yrs later
What is the coverage amount and the types of benefits of your "old" policy VS those newly quoted?

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post Aug 6 2025, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(zenwell @ Aug 5 2025, 10:20 PM)
Checking in with Malaysians who have experience upgrading their insurance package after the age of 40.

How much do you pay for your monthly insurance premium now? and did you choose the flat month rate until age 99 option?

I've recently been given 2 quotations from 2 different brands, both also have significant increase in amount for coverage up to age 99. Significant increase when i compare to my current premium which i bought 15 years ago and i'm still paying the same price until today.

Appreciate some insights, thanks!
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I feel getting medical insurance till 100 is quite useless, so much will change in the regulatory landscape, and the insurance charges increase exponentially beyond the age 80. Just get the premiums to be level to 80 years old, then a separate step up premkum from 80 to 100 should you need it in the future. The excess money can be put to much better use elsewhere in the mean time.
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Aug 6 2025, 08:44 AM)
I feel getting medical insurance till 100 is quite useless, so much will change in the regulatory landscape, and the insurance charges increase exponentially beyond the age 80. Just get the premiums to be level to 80 years old, then a separate step up premkum from 80 to 100 should you need it in the future. The excess money can be put to much better use elsewhere in the mean time.
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post Aug 13 2025, 03:44 PM

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I tried to renew my house insurance with Etiqa online but failed. I was told that they don't accept because my postcode is in flood risk area. Does anyone have similar experience? Which other insurance company is good for houseowner/householder insurance?

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