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post Jan 31 2021, 11:04 AM

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PIAM: Medical and health policies do not provide coverage for Covid-19
Adeline Paul Raj 19 hrs ago as of from 31 Jan 2021 11am

KUALA LUMPUR (Jan 30): Medical and health insurance policies issued by general insurance companies do not provide coverage for pandemics such as Covid-19, the General Insurance Association of Malaysia (PIAM) said today.

“The reason for this is that pandemics have been assumed as a rare event and thus, the absence of wide coverage under most policies. Pandemics are generally a risk with high exposure. As insurance premiums will commensurate with the risk exposure, insurance premiums will naturally be higher if a pandemic is covered,” it said.

more....
https://www.msn.com/en-my/money/topstories/...w?ocid=msedgntp
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post Jan 31 2021, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Pohziliang96 @ Jan 31 2021, 03:41 PM)
New thread wow
If I’m gonna be alone forever(no kids, wife), should I buy life insurance? Or medical card is enough?
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Medical card is to help you pay for your medical bills,...
what about income protection to substitute your lost of income due to lost of legs, cancer etc etc?
what about protecting your hard save money while you live to sustain your life out?
hmm.gif hmm.gif

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post Jan 31 2021, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Pohziliang96 @ Jan 31 2021, 03:53 PM)
I thought medical card has covered all the fees like hospitalisation and surgery?
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yes,..medical card has covered all the fees like hospitalisation and surgery;
it is what happened after the surgery?
legs gone cannot work anymore....how?
or cancer made you weak cannot work anymore....how?
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post Feb 1 2021, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(KLlang @ Feb 1 2021, 08:17 AM)
TaiGoh, yes, high deductible is cheaper but the premium amount saved is not significant compare to a RM300 deductible for age 32. Also, every upgrade/ lower deductible in future is subject to 120 days waiting and 2 years contestability period.
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Thanks for the inputs.
Btw, what is the variance In premium per year between a 80k deductible n a non deductible plan for his age?
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post Feb 1 2021, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 1 2021, 08:56 AM)
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That depends on what is offered by the insurance company for the 80k deductible. (Different company have different % of discount)

For example, the normal premium is RM1,000 monthly, but someone with an 80k deductible could be paying RM200 monthly.
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wow, that is alot of % ,...between a 80k deductible and a non deductible plan of similar coverage. for TS
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post Feb 1 2021, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(YoungLee @ Feb 1 2021, 09:51 AM)
It will take a long time to get the money lol? So basically is like a reimbursement right? Need to pay out of pocket for funeral expense, then only claim back from insurance payout
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that is one of the selling points of UBB trust as mentioned...

Why Should I establish a UBB CASH TRUST today?
It provides swift cash for expenses during emergencies and to tide your family over until the insurance payout and access to your money in your bank accounts or will. This cash can also be used to pay legal fees to access any inheritances and bereavement-related expenses.


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post Feb 26 2021, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Feb 26 2021, 09:50 AM)
Hi, currently my wife is having second baby. Want to ask what is the best value insurance to buy for the baby?
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while waiting for value added responses, you can try this

Which Malaysian Insurance provides the Best Protection for your Child?
https://www.ibanding.my/which-malaysian-ins...for-your-child/

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=...sclient=gws-wiz
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post Mar 1 2021, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(james.6831 @ Mar 1 2021, 02:44 PM)
I'm 33..paying about 350/month for 160k life insurance, 500k annual limit for medical, 150k critical illness and 300k accident p.a dunno wat...
is that normal? average?
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mind asking,...this RM350 pm is how many % of your use able income pm? (income after MINUS all other needed expenses)?

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post Mar 7 2021, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 7 2021, 12:07 AM)
My 10 years MLTA going to expiring soon, still have hefty amount of housing loan, was thinking shall I renew MLTA or just online purchase term life insurance will do? Objective is to spend minimum premium while maintaining the house for elderly parents with zero income and no EPF.
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according to this article....

".....if you’re on the lookout for something affordable and flexible along with a transparent (i.e. you know how much you’re signing up for!) premium and coverage value, then the Term Life insurance is the right one for you."

These 3 Insurance Types Will Pay Off Your Home Loan for You!
UPDATED 11 NOV 2019
https://loanstreet.com.my/learning-centre/m...-mlta-term-life
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post Mar 7 2021, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(KopiMalaysiano @ Mar 7 2021, 12:17 AM)
who claim money for me if i die already and no insurance man to settle payout
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how did the insurance company knows that you are dead and that they need to pay you?
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post Mar 7 2021, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(KopiMalaysiano @ Mar 7 2021, 12:32 AM)
They wish u happy CNY/Raya every year so maybe u nvr wish back they thought u died
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if they only "thought", then they are not obligated to start the payout process
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post Mar 18 2021, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(mycolumn @ Mar 18 2021, 01:09 PM)
Hi, I wanna ask, for e-medical card, how do i go about this? Let's say need hospitalization; I just tell the hospital that I have insurance? Or do I need to print my e-medical card and keep it with me always?

This is for Prudential.
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googled and found this

Am I required to present my e-Medical card at a hospital upon admission?
You are required to present your NRIC (or equivalent) and/or e-Medical Card to the hospital during admission for verification purposes.

Please refer to our Hospital Alliance Services here.

https://www.prudential.com.my/en/claims-and...pruaccess-plus/
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post Apr 20 2021, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(CrispK44 @ Apr 20 2021, 12:10 PM)
Hi everyone, I'm 24 and am looking to buy my very first Medical Card (Investment Linked). Never bought any kind of medical card before.

I am considering a plan that has the following -
Annual limit: 1 million
Lifetime limit: No limit
Life/TPD: 100k
CI: 100k
Assured until 70 y/o.

For that I have been quoted RM230 per month. However my agent is pushing for me to get assured until 90 y/o at RM300 per month.
Agent told me that it will be extended to 80 y/o, then 90 y/o if I did not make any claims during the coverage term.

So my questions are:
1. Is it worth spending the extra RM70 per month for a longer coverage term? It's my first time buying so I need some second opinions on this.
2. Agent also advised to "top-up" more cash value, let's say making it RM250 a month. How drastic will the difference affect the cash value in the future if I opt not to "top-up"?
3. Is the premium too expensive for my age? I asked around my older friends and their medical cards are all cheaper with similar coverage.
Thanks in advance and pardon my noob questions. smile.gif
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no an expert of any kind,...
but for investment link products on medical coverage insurance.....from past experiences of postings by forummers,....the premium would be subjected to rises periodically to cover for the inflation cost of medical coverage...
the extra RM70 per month you paid now is just to enable longer delay of premium increase in future....

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post Apr 20 2021, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(jhodyj @ Apr 20 2021, 09:03 PM)
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2021...surance-company

came across this news just now. The lady didnt delcare she has depression when she apply for insurance and few years later, the lady got cancer and insurance company reject her claim because she didnt declare her depression.

If i visit clinic because i sakit perut/sakit kepala but i didnt declare when apply insurance, will insurance company reject my claim if i am hospitalized in the future?
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for this topic,....if you are interested can post/read/ask at recently existed thread

Great Eastern rejected critical illness in news, What do you think?
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5125587
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post Apr 21 2021, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 21 2021, 12:02 AM)
so those things NOT asked...will not be a material fact....
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maybe this is more directly relevant....

Financial Services Act (FSA) & Islamic Financial Services Act (IFSA)
The FSA and IFSA 2013 came into effect on 30th June 2013 have significantly impacted the Malaysian financial sector.
The new laws, states that insurer must obtain all relevant pre-contractual disclosures before acceptance of the risk and cannot use the incontestability clause to denied any claims.

http://www.olis.or.jp/e/pdf/20150521_malaysia.pdf

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post May 11 2021, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 11 2021, 08:41 AM)
Just a random question about agent or agency performance such as Top Agent or Top Agency etc etc as claimed by agents that engaged me. I tried to validate these claims, but Google couldn't find satisfying results to me.

Question: how do I validate if an agent claims that he/she is TopX agent/agency in certain region or nationwide?
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call or email the HQ of that company to confirm or ask for verification?
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post May 11 2021, 11:47 AM

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hopefully can get some tips from this site,...

Joining the insurance industry? Here's what you need to know.

https://www.asiaadvisersnetwork.com/Article?aid=61280
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post May 11 2021, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(angyte @ May 11 2021, 06:28 PM)
Hi,

Saw lots of ppl saying AIA covering for covid hospitalisation in private hospital?
I mean cover the medical cost not some compensation payment.
Is it true? I tot all excluded commutable disease clause?
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according to this....

"AIA, in a Jan 21 internal circular to its agency force aimed at providing clarity on its Covid-19 coverage, said some of its “older block” of medical plans have the clause that excludes coverage for communicable diseases that require quarantine by law. However, it said the newer generation of AIA medical plans do not have this exclusion clause.

“What this means to our customers of these plans is that they will be covered for hospitalisation under their medical plans if they are diagnosed with Covid-19 and require inpatient treatment which is medically necessary at hospitals,” it said in the circular sighted by The Edge. It added that this would be subject to a plan’s terms and conditions."....

more,...
Growing pressure on insurers to cover Covid-19 treatment at private hospitals
Adeline Paul Raj/The Edge Malaysia
February 01, 2021
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/grow...ivate-hospitals
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post May 15 2021, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(1234_4321 @ May 15 2021, 09:38 AM)
Hello All, I have an old medical card policy with ING and later acquired by AIA. The annual limit is 100k and lifetime limit is 300k, which is very outdated as most of the policy nowadays is with unlimited limited (told by the agent)

Still considering the change within AIA or other insurance company, but may I know the switch over is usually to
1. terminate the old policy, and subscribe with the new policy and waiting period (120 days) applies.
OR
2. is there any possible way to switch over to new policy without any waiting period?
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Keep that old policy n Buy a new policy with deductible?

This post has been edited by MUM: May 15 2021, 09:55 AM
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post May 17 2021, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(1234_4321 @ May 16 2021, 10:30 PM)
Will it be more cost effective?
Thinking if paying 1 plan will be cheaper than 2..
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If you are really concern of cost effectiveness... Do beware of the "waiting period" & the contestable period of new plan too.
For more cost effectiveness... Go aim for govt hospital...

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