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post Dec 15 2024, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(John Chaser @ Dec 14 2024, 06:16 PM)

Got additional instant discount paying from AmBank.
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If can get so much discounts i think may be more worth shooting for 4TB SSD
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received my fury renegade
though wanna install the ssd on my computer to update the firmware, then notice my motherboard didn't come with additional philip screw, end up install it without put philips screw manage to boot windows, and check for update and shows no update available sweat.gif

then put back the ssd to my ps5 laugh.gif
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post Dec 17 2024, 07:50 AM

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https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/ssds/its-t...-ssd-the-mx500/

End of an era.

MX500 is being EoL-ed

so far 250GB and 4TB models are gone
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post Dec 17 2024, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Dec 17 2024, 07:50 AM)
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/ssds/its-t...-ssd-the-mx500/

End of an era.

MX500 is being EoL-ed

so far 250GB and 4TB models are gone
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I have MX500 500gb installed on my laptop, replacing the slow HDD. It has been running for 4 years since.
But i never update the firmware as for whatever reason, the Crucial software cannot run on my windows.
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post Dec 17 2024, 10:08 PM

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Important Update for Kingston KC3000 and Kingston Fury Renegade 4.0 SSD Owners
Please update your SSD firmware to the latest version using the Kingston SSD Manager.
Latest Firmware: EIFK31.7 (same firmware for KC3000 & Fury Renegade 4.0

PS5 Users:
If you are using the KC3000\Fury Renegade 4.0 SSD in a PS5, you will need to temporarily remove the SSD, install it in a PC, and perform the firmware update using the appropriate software.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comme...rs_update_your/

Note: If you are using an SSD with a Phison E18 controller from another manufacturer, it is strongly recommended to check your manufacturer's support page for any available firmware updates.
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post Dec 17 2024, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Dec 17 2024, 07:50 AM)
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/ssds/its-t...-ssd-the-mx500/

End of an era.

MX500 is being EoL-ed

so far 250GB and 4TB models are gone
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just last year use to clone my 12 years old pc to this SSD, atleast 10 times better that HDD, even boot windows, open program no need wait
see what model can replace this SSD
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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Oct 18 2024, 05:40 PM)
Every day die die wan kingston

No other brand to choose??
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WD Black also quite good.
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QUOTE(soonwai @ Dec 18 2024, 03:07 AM)
WD Black also quite good.
I had a disappointing experience with the SN750. It failed suddenly and without warning in under six months. I went through the RMA process, received a replacement, and unfortunately, the replacement also failed in less than a year. After the second RMA, I decided to sell it, as I completely lost confidence in WD's NVMe SSDs.

For context, I also use an SX8200 Pro and a 970 EVO on the same motherboard, and both have been running reliably to this day. Ironically, the SN750 was the newest among them.
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QUOTE(PJng @ Dec 17 2024, 11:57 PM)
just last year use to clone my 12 years old pc to this SSD, atleast 10 times better that HDD, even boot windows, open program no need wait
see what model can replace this SSD
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I would say Transcend SSD230S

It's basically the same guts inside
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post Dec 18 2024, 05:15 PM

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speaking of budget 1TB SATA SSD.

between Adata SU650, Kingston A400, Silicone Power A55, Kioxia Exceria. (got other option?)

which one is best?

Usage will be mainly for install big file size video games + sometimes download movie.

Speed is not important because capped by sata, would prefer reliability & storage /price.

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Dec 18 2024, 03:07 AM)
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Lazada? Thats a f88king good deal

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Dec 18 2024, 03:37 PM)
I would say Transcend SSD230S

It's basically the same guts inside
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Amongst the Kingston budget SSD which is nearly all dogshit, if you can find at good price, I reco KC600. Also similar TLC + DRAM

QUOTE(Boldnut @ Dec 18 2024, 05:15 PM)
speaking of budget 1TB SATA SSD.

between Adata SU650, Kingston A400, Silicone Power A55, Kioxia Exceria. (got other option?)

which one is best?

Usage will be mainly for install big file size video games + sometimes download movie.

Speed is not important because capped by sata, would prefer reliability & storage /price.
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If you can afford slightly higher i reco KC600 for the reason above.
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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Dec 18 2024, 05:15 PM)
speaking of budget 1TB SATA SSD.

between Adata SU650, Kingston A400, Silicone Power A55, Kioxia Exceria. (got other option?)

which one is best?

Usage will be mainly for install big file size video games + sometimes download movie.

Speed is not important because capped by sata, would prefer reliability & storage /price.
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I have an ADATA SU650 with me right now, it has a Realtek controller and QLC NAND, so... eh

the Kingston A400 has the infamous Phison S11 controller that likes to die, now, this issue has been fixed but I still don't like it
also, fakes of this exist

Silicon Power A55 should be ok but I don't like it either because they keep changing the internal components

the Kioxia Exceria is nothing special either.

I will still say the Transcend SSD230S

but if forced to, I'll take my chances with the SP A55

QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 18 2024, 05:19 PM)
Lazada? Thats a f88king good deal
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From the UI it looks like Shopee

QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 18 2024, 06:26 PM)
Amongst the Kingston budget SSD which is nearly all dogshit, if you can find at good price, I reco KC600. Also similar TLC + DRAM
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Yeah also a good choice, but I recall it's quite expensive, hence me going with Transcend

I do still miss their A2000/KC2000/(and especially)KC2500, those were truly legendary price to performace

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Dec 18 2024, 03:37 PM)
I would say Transcend SSD230S

It's basically the same guts inside
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lol, i use that on my new pc, just store game, see the date and price after vc
and yes, speed reduce when near 85% full as i posted before

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Dec 18 2024, 03:07 AM)
WD Black also quite good.
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I bought my fury renegade 2tb with heatsink around the price you paying laugh.gif

super good deal you had
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 17 2024, 10:08 PM)
Important Update for Kingston KC3000 and Kingston Fury Renegade 4.0 SSD Owners
Please update your SSD firmware to the latest version using the Kingston SSD Manager.
Latest Firmware: EIFK31.7 (same firmware for KC3000 & Fury Renegade 4.0

PS5 Users:
If you are using the KC3000\Fury Renegade 4.0 SSD in a PS5, you will need to temporarily remove the SSD, install it in a PC, and perform the firmware update using the appropriate software.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comme...rs_update_your/

Note: If you are using an SSD with a Phison E18 controller from another manufacturer, it is strongly recommended to check your manufacturer's support page for any available firmware updates.
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My KC3000 have different firmware.. it's EIFK51.2. what does it mean? different NAND & controller? hmm.gif
bought it 9 months ago from reputable shop
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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Dec 22 2024, 02:23 PM)
Hotter and less apps able to fully utilize it (for now). Now you need bigger heatsink and fan.
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right, for new gen nvme ssds, heat is a problem. it's now essential to have a setup with good air flow, more fans and thick heat sinks sandwiching the ssds, especially if you have multiple units.

if you wanna play with enterprise/dc-grade gen3/4 nvme ssds, the setup above is the minimal. the average temperature of my micron 7450 pro's (e1.s) are at 45c at idle, high 55c under loads. i try to keep them below 60c with fans and heat sinks, and use external custom water cooling unit.

most ssd news for the past months were about enterprise, dc, and ai. hopefully manufacturers will populate more 4tb options hehe

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post Dec 24 2024, 04:40 PM

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Heat problem with early Gen5 SSDs is simply coz from overheating controllers IC as these are basically overclocked Gen4 controllers.

Newer gen controllers designed from scratch for Gen5 speeds are starting to come into market which reduces the heatloads from needing a noisy fan down to just a chunky HS block all without thermal throttling.

(NANDs are basically the same for both gen and thrives in heat)

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