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TSsupfinal
post Sep 21 2020, 01:36 AM, updated 6y ago

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This mat salleh youtuber use my artwork without permission... I copyright strike him and the video got deleted...
now he angry and make video about it in retaliation
because of this video all my social media kena flamed already by his fans
His toxic fans really effect my mental health
I couldn't sleep, lost my appetite and haven't eaten anything since 6am yesterday sad.gif



This post has been edited by supfinal: Sep 21 2020, 01:40 AM
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:37 AM

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Don’t know how to embed video is it
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:37 AM

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Link la his channel.
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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:36 AM)
This mat salleh youtuber use my artwork without permission... I copyright strike him and the video got deleted...
now he angry and make video about it in retaliation
because of this video all my social media kena flamed already by his fans
His toxic fans really effect my mental health
I couldn't sleep, lost my appetite and haven't eaten anything since 6am yesterday sad.gif


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post Sep 21 2020, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Sep 21 2020, 01:37 AM)
Don’t know how to embed video is it
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sorry2 i edit back
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:38 AM

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Come let the /k collective try and fuck this neckbeard loser’s shit up in retaliation

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TSsupfinal
post Sep 21 2020, 01:39 AM

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nvm fixed sorry guys

how u do that? i try [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] dont work for me ><"

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post Sep 21 2020, 01:40 AM

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Ahh this guy. I think he got banned from the mtg community too.
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:41 AM

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post Sep 21 2020, 01:41 AM

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Look at this neckbeard.
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(GreenSamurai @ Sep 21 2020, 01:40 AM)
Ahh this guy. I think he got banned from the mtg community too.
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yes its him! how he attacking me cause he use my artwork on his video without my permission
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:44 AM

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Ts u want /k army help u or not ? We can take down his channel
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:44 AM

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Did u message him about it before you copy strike him?
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(Saltiez @ Sep 21 2020, 01:44 AM)
Did u message him about it before you copy strike him?
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Did he message TS before using his work in a monetised video? hmm.gif
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:46 AM

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bro,

you just have to ignore those harassment if you are right.

nothing can be done for now.

that's why it's always important to get your art creation properly copyrighted.

i mostly deal with youtube audio / music, so i can't comment much on your artwork.
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:42 AM)
yes its him! how he attacking me cause he use my artwork on his video without my permission
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dude you could have contacted him first instead of going for a strike straight
apparently, Youtube system is pretty terrible and they have very little leeway with strikes
if you watch his video, he says that he doesn't blame you but rather Youtube's system

personally I don't like his content, too sensationalized, dramatic
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(Killy @ Sep 21 2020, 01:46 AM)
dude you could have contacted him first instead of going for a strike straight
apparently, Youtube system is pretty terrible and they have very little leeway with strikes
if you watch his video, he says that he doesn't blame you but rather Youtube's system

personally I don't like his content, too sensationalized, dramatic
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Curious though. What actions can that dude take if TS PM him about the artwork? Share the revenue from that video with TS?
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(Saltiez @ Sep 21 2020, 01:44 AM)
Did u message him about it before you copy strike him?
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I taggeg him on my twitter post about it since i couldn't dm his twitter.. but he no replay
so next day i report laaa...
i thought he could be civilize and ask me to retract back the claim...
but instead he make new video sad.gif

This post has been edited by supfinal: Sep 21 2020, 01:51 AM
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:49 AM

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post Sep 21 2020, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(GreenSamurai @ Sep 21 2020, 01:48 AM)
Curious though. What actions can that dude take if TS PM him about the artwork? Share the revenue from that video with TS?
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remove the artwork? go watch the video btw
revenue wise, that's up to TS to nego, i don't think it's worth the effort though biggrin.gif
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:52 AM

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What artwork?
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:49 AM)
I taggeg him on my twitter post about it since i couldn't dm his twitter.. but he no replay
so next day i report laaa...
i thought he could be civilize and ask me to retract back the claim...
but instead he make new video  sad.gif
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Ignore jer la.

Why u still layan.

Set all your socm private jer.

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post Sep 21 2020, 01:53 AM

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he need to shave
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that i agree lmao
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(thexs @ Sep 21 2020, 01:45 AM)
Did he message TS before using his work in a monetised video?  hmm.gif
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Captain obvious, TS can't sleep and eat straight, something easily avoided if he messaged him before copy striking that obnoxious dude.
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QUOTE(y500 @ Sep 21 2020, 01:53 AM)
Ignore jer la.

Why u still layan.
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cos TS kena harass by his fans la laugh.gif
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:49 AM)
I taggeg him on my twitter post about it since i couldn't dm his twitter.. but he no replay
so next day i report laaa...
i thought he could be civilize and ask me to retract back the claim...
but instead he make new video  sad.gif
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Of course. YouTube viewers love drama. The new video will make him even more money why would he ask you to retract the claim nicely? Now since his fans start attacking you eventually you’ll retract the claim anyway so it’s a win win for him.

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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:49 AM)
I taggeg him on my twitter post about it since i couldn't dm his twitter.. but he no replay
so next day i report laaa...
i thought he could be civilize and ask me to retract back the claim...
but instead he make new video  sad.gif
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Too bad that if have to kena this one youtuber who is known to be obnoxious tho.
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:55 AM

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Youtube guy said he will fight TS in court if it comes down to it (not sure how this will happen though)

Now you gotta deal with this guy coming after you legally (he will lose but at what cost to you emotionally) and his fan base harassing you


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post Sep 21 2020, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(Killy @ Sep 21 2020, 01:53 AM)
cos TS kena harass by his fans la laugh.gif
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Set to private mode lor.
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:56 AM

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where is ts artwork link
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:57 AM

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You copyright strike him because you disagree with his politics. Other artists would've been happy to be acknowledged.

You are probably a liberal trash sjw.
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post Sep 21 2020, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(talzer @ Sep 21 2020, 01:56 AM)
where is ts artwork link
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QUOTE(y500 @ Sep 21 2020, 01:55 AM)
Set to private mode lor.
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dunno, maybe TS is actually liking the attention or a masochist biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jbcoder @ Sep 21 2020, 01:57 AM)
You copyright strike him because you disagree with his politics. Other artists would've been happy to be acknowledged.

You are probably a liberal trash sjw.
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So if you steal an iPhone from Apple store then Apple should be happy because you acknowledged that their phones are valuable and should just let you go for being a man of culture?
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post Sep 21 2020, 02:01 AM

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Actually after seeing the artwork being used. Im curious did they cut out your tag at the bottom right?


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post Sep 21 2020, 02:01 AM

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I see lots of comment in that yt support that youtuber and attacking supfinal. WTF but at least got few supporting copyright.
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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:49 AM)
I taggeg him on my twitter post about it since i couldn't dm his twitter.. but he no replay
so next day i report laaa...
i thought he could be civilize and ask me to retract back the claim...
but instead he make new video  sad.gif
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That guy is a piece of sh!t that would sensationalize anything to make content. You did the right thing by copy striking him.
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post Sep 21 2020, 02:05 AM

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his video got deleted and he deleted your watermark

so what else ?
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QUOTE(GreenSamurai @ Sep 21 2020, 02:01 AM)
So if you steal an iPhone from Apple store then Apple should be happy because you acknowledged that their phones are valuable and should just let you go for being a man of culture?
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It's fair use and he isn't profiting from showing the pic indirectly.


TS is a typical 100 percent liberal cunt who disagreed with the politics of this guy and maliciously copyright strike him.


TS 100 percent hates Donald Trump and knows very well the video guy is pro-Trump, so he sengaja go copyright strike the fella.


Now kena brigaded and bombarded by people, so padan muka.

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Kek dah kena strike, create rant video Pastu mention sapa yg strike. Boleh report lagi ni
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QUOTE(jbcoder @ Sep 21 2020, 02:06 AM)
It's fair use and he isn't profiting from showing the pic indirectly.
TS is a typical 100 percent liberal cunt who disagreed with the politics of this guy and maliciously copyright strike him.
TS 100 percent hates Donald Trump and knows very well the video guy is pro-Trump, so he sengaja go copyright strike the fella.
Now kena brigaded and bombarded by people, so padan muka.
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Why you stupid?
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QUOTE(thexs @ Sep 21 2020, 02:06 AM)
Why you stupid?
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TS also used gundam pic, essentially also violated someone else's copyright.


Now sendiri kena and complain but his true intention is because he dislike other people's politics so sengaja copyright strike the fella.


Memang typical liberal sjw cunt.
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QUOTE(jbcoder @ Sep 21 2020, 02:08 AM)
TS also used gundam pic, essentially also violated someone else's copyright.
Now sendiri kena and complain but his true intention is because he dislike other people's politics so sengaja copyright strike the fella.
Memang typical liberal sjw cunt.
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But why you stupid?
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 02:04 AM)
That guy is a piece of sh!t that would sensationalize anything to make content. You did the right thing by copy striking him.
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ItsAgundam msg me and ask permission first before using it on his video


This post has been edited by supfinal: Sep 21 2020, 02:42 AM
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QUOTE(jbcoder @ Sep 21 2020, 02:06 AM)
It's fair use and he isn't profiting from showing the pic indirectly.
TS is a typical 100 percent liberal cunt who disagreed with the politics of this guy and maliciously copyright strike him.
TS 100 percent hates Donald Trump and knows very well the video guy is pro-Trump, so he sengaja go copyright strike the fella.
Now kena brigaded and bombarded by people, so padan muka.
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Lmao the strange opinions of a doxxer cunt

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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:49 AM)
I taggeg him on my twitter post about it since i couldn't dm his twitter.. but he no replay
so next day i report laaa...
i thought he could be civilize and ask me to retract back the claim...
but instead he make new video  sad.gif
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bruh, should at least give him few days to try to reach him out before reporting. I would understand if you need to report it immediately so that you don't lose millions but in this case, it is not.
the youtuber also quite a two face guy saying that he "blame" youtube for it and not you but still mention your name.

both party has their own ego. doh.gif

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I reported the video for you, TS.
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QUOTE(sunbearau @ Sep 21 2020, 01:55 AM)
Youtube guy said he will fight TS in court if it comes down to it (not sure how this will happen though)

Now you gotta deal with this guy coming after you legally (he will lose but at what cost to you emotionally) and his fan base harassing you
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Actually, he would have to sue YouTube since the site belongs to YouTube and TS lives in another country. Doubt he got the resources or the balls to go after either so harassment is basically the only thing he can really do.

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QUOTE(jbcoder @ Sep 21 2020, 01:57 AM)
You copyright strike him because you disagree with his politics. Other artists would've been happy to be acknowledged.

You are probably a liberal trash sjw.
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Wow such a beta, dickless, spineless person.

I'm not an artist, but if I make art for a living. I'd want to get paid if other people use my artworks, even for 4 seconds.
If they use my artwork without my permission, I'd do a copyright claim too.




Exposure don't pay the bill.

Be happy to be acknowledged? LOL biggrin.gif


"Oh thank you sir I feel so acknowledged sir! No need to compensate me for my labour, sir!" LOL laugh.gif

Is that what you would sound like?

Just because you're so spineless and will bend over to everyone and anyone.
Don't go around asking other ppl to be spineless like you too. smile.gif


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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 02:19 AM)
Actually, he would have to sue YouTube since the site belongs to YouTube and TS lives in another country. Doubt he got the resources or the balls to go after either so harassment is basically the only thing he can really do.
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If you watch the video he says that he will go to court to fight if the artwork is actually copyrighted by TS. So its not at YT but actually against TS.

You sure that he doesnt have the resources? He states that he is willing to drop 10 - 15k to bring this to court. Wont be suprised if he has that much cash considering his subs / views

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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:36 AM)
This mat salleh youtuber use my artwork without permission... I copyright strike him and the video got deleted...
now he angry and make video about it in retaliation
because of this video all my social media kena flamed already by his fans
His toxic fans really effect my mental health
I couldn't sleep, lost my appetite and haven't eaten anything since 6am yesterday sad.gif


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Unite the ktard go flame him back
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Good job TS,

1) Gonna teach him that you cant simply use ppl art work.
2) He doesnt sound apologetic either, use ppl art work, kena report then blame ppl not report to him first. WTF, first u apologize and not make a rant video. so LCLY.
3) Dont be afraid of his scared tactic, what go to court etc. Fair use or not is not your problem, he use your art work which he himself acknowledge and you only exercise your right to report to youtube. He can sue youtube if he want them to retract the strike, there is no way he can bring u to court.
4) I dunno how his fans harass u, but dont give in to bully.

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QUOTE(sunbearau @ Sep 21 2020, 02:23 AM)
If you watch the video he says that he will go to court to fight if the artwork is actually copyrighted by TS. So its not at YT but actually against TS.

You sure that he doesnt have the resources? He states that he is willing to drop 10 - 15k to bring this to court. Wont be suprised if he has that much cash considering his subs / views
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let him proceed with the court proceeding, good luck trying to sue TS in MY rclxs0.gif rclxs0.gif rclxs0.gif

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Sep 21 2020, 02:20 AM)
Wow such a beta, dickless, spineless person.

I'm not an artist, but if I make art for a living. I'd want to get paid if other people use my artworks, even for 4 seconds.
If they use my artwork without my permission, I'd do a copyright claim too.


Exposure don't pay the bill.

Be happy to be acknowledged? LOL  biggrin.gif
"Oh thank you sir I feel so acknowledged sir! No need to compensate me for my labour, sir!" LOL laugh.gif

Is that what you would sound like?

Just because you're so spineless and will bend over to everyone and anyone.
Don't go around asking other ppl to be spineless like you too.  smile.gif
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aku tak kisah pasal duit, aku miskin tapi happy...
video dia 13 minit
tapi aku lukis 3-4 jam baru nak siap...
pastu dia ambik hak kita tak mau mintak izin...
pastu nak pulak suruh artis nih susun jari email abam famose youtuber tolong laa jgan pakai artwork saya nih..
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QUOTE(sunbearau @ Sep 21 2020, 02:23 AM)
If you watch the video he says that he will go to court to fight if the artwork is actually copyrighted by TS. So its not at YT but actually against TS.

You sure that he doesnt have the resources? He states that he is willing to drop 10 - 15k to bring this to court. Wont be suprised if he has that much cash considering his subs / views
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It doesn't matter if it is copyrighted by TS or not since the courts have no power to force YouTube remove his strike. So, on what grounds is he even suing TS? What does he even get from suing TS? Is he going to spend 15k to get nothing but only to harrass TS?

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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:49 AM)
I taggeg him on my twitter post about it since i couldn't dm his twitter.. but he no replay
so next day i report laaa...
i thought he could be civilize and ask me to retract back the claim...
but instead he make new video  sad.gif
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next day already lipot... haiyoh why so fast?


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QUOTE(chitchat @ Sep 21 2020, 02:27 AM)
let him proceed with the court proceeding, good luck trying to sue TS in MY  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Yeah was wondering how he would even end up bring this to court. But you never know with US legal system with their stupid SLAP suits

In the end is all of this worth it for TS emotional wellbeing?
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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 02:36 AM)
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Image appeared again in this video... Strike him again. wink.gif

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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 02:29 AM)
It doesn't matter if it is copyrighted by TS or not since the courts have no power to force YouTube remove his strike. So, on what grounds is he even suing TS? What does he even get from suing TS? It's going to cost him a lot more than 15k to make such a ridiculous claim in another country.
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Why you asking me? Go ask the youtuber lol. He's already said what he's gonna do.


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Malaysian all troll king~

go post at bawang army to help you, then we can see bawang army vs mat salleh SJW
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American exploiting and discriminates 3rd world country labour.

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Yeah was wondering how he would even end up bring this to court. But you never know with US legal system with their stupid SLAP suits

In the end is all of this worth it for TS emotional wellbeing?
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Well I dunno how bad is the harassing TS mean, if is just twitter spam then just set to private lor.

That is how bully work, scared tactic. TS have no wrong here to report to youtube, his art work is indeed used. He want sue TS what ? lying ? false claim ? no case here.

He can only sue youtube for the strike.
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Let’s assemble

I will be part of it

Don’t steal people’s work
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I think he better dont make /k angry, later ppl really go dig out all the photo he used without permission on his other video and report to owner.

Sekali other owner see his rant video also not happy and go strike him x 2 more for a turkey then he really bye.gif bye.gif bye.gif
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QUOTE(chitchat @ Sep 21 2020, 02:40 AM)
Well I dunno how bad is the harassing TS mean, if is just twitter spam then just set to private lor.

That is how bully work, scared tactic. TS have no wrong here to report to youtube, his art work is indeed used. He want sue TS what ? lying ? false claim ? no case here.

He can only sue youtube for the strike.
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Watch the video, he explains what his case will be. Well man you seem to know the best on how to deal with situations like this. Lets just let TS keep on doing what he's doing and hope their mental health isnt badly affected by this.
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I cant even tolerate if people use 1 second of my music, let alone 4
TS i suppok you, I disliked his video
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QUOTE(chitchat @ Sep 21 2020, 02:46 AM)
I think he better dont make /k angry, later ppl really go dig out all the photo he used without permission on his other video and report to owner.

Sekali other owner see his rant video also not happy and go strike him x 2 more for a turkey then he really  bye.gif  bye.gif  bye.gif
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He is an arrogant piece of shit because his income affected.

Any wanker will justify their loss by blaming others.

Doxx mode initiated.
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This redneck cunt needs a taste of his own medicine

Tomorrow I’ll start memes of this dickface
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i think k is big enough to defeat that fat two faced clown
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QUOTE(Saltiez @ Sep 21 2020, 02:40 AM)
American exploiting and discriminates 3rd world country labour.
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He doesn’t even know his own goddamn law


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Eh... No way! We support AMDK always! The dude is not CCP, so it's fine. Only CCP will copy and pirate, AMDK will never ever do such thing!
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I can tell you he 100% don't know the law.
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only give one day for the dude to respond? kasi chance la.. even intel customer support reply not that fast

2-3 days ok what.. then mention "will report for COPYSTRIKE if you do not respond within 3 days".. for sure ball shrink already seeing that copystrike word
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He use your artwork without permission, he is wrong

You strike 9 him without giving him a chance or wait for his reply? Good for you

He upload a new video about you and his friends burn 9 you. You can’t handle so you’re losing the game

So maybe next time be a little patient and aim for a win-win unless you can really handle the heat when it comes (lawsuit, media play etc etc)

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Get help from the bawang army
"ur mom green" can defeat him edy

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Not a fan of his video,

But it seems you are too harsh.

Based on video;
- Picture added by Editor
- Did not get any notification from you
- Picture trademark not remove
- 3 copyright strike will get his channel terminate, block source of income.


You’re not entirely wrong but should give a reasonable duration before taking action. Also it looks like you simply copy right strike him because you hate him.


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Ohh please god no, if wanna troll back, please not those embarrassing "Mak kau hijau, your mom is green" bawang army.

Please god anything but those.
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Welp, so much for trying to paint himself as the good guy against the 'oppressove far left' . dry.gif
I didnt watch his stuff ever since he made some hitpiece on Jim by doing exactly what Jim parodied in Jim's video dry.gif
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U should put proof in first post. I finish first page, still no proof.
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Will report his youtube channel for harrasment and cyber-bullying

Please put proof first with screenshot in 1st page

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For TS its maybe hours of work, but for youtuber its their lifetime of effort.

Copyright strike is literally the worse thing you could have done to a youtuber. You can basically destroy their livelihood for doing so.
Which is why I'd say that anybody who abuse strike/claim for seconds worth of material is a cunt for me.

You're cunt TS, a huge cunt at that.
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post in FB la, create 1 post then state your reason and everything, put the youtuber link. let our bawang army settle. Hahahaha
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Spoken like a true Punjabi

Let’s do it!!!

This redneck cunt needs a taste of his own medicine

Tomorrow I’ll start memes of this dickface
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creTe new youtube channel and make some videos retaliate. ride on his famous and instant profit
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Should have asked him to compensate you
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If /k can drive out sunset oren k can help ts. Ques is do k want to help ts. Bec utube comment masih mat salleh
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Fight till the end Dont let AMDK bully us

A lot misinformation in video just look at the comments many people claimed you haven't reached out to him.
Spent like 30mins, and spam these comments with your link that reached out to this AMDK on twitter

and put oil on those fire wanting to sue, 'good luck suing in third world country'
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I say strike him 2 more times
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he need to shave
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 07:31 AM)
Fight till the end Dont let AMDK bully us

A lot misinformation in video just look at the comments many people claimed you haven't reached out to him.
Spent like 30mins, and spam these comments with your link that reached out to this AMDK on twitter

and put oil on those fire wanting to sue, 'good luck suing in third world country'
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Its not a misinformation since TS couldn't reach him on twitter with the stranger direct message block, which is a pretty common thing.

TS could've tweet about it, but didn't.
TS could've make a reddit thread about, but didn't.
TS could've create a dA thread about it, but didn't.
TS could've e-mail him about it but didn't.

TS went directly towards copy right strike after half assed attempt to reach him on twitter.
For youtuber, this is equivalent of getting shot for shit talking somebody. Its the worse thing TS could do.

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bro, list out where you kena attack.

fuckin neckbeard needs some purge yo. /k army ready to war.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 07:04 AM)
For TS its maybe hours of work, but for youtuber its their lifetime of effort.

Copyright strike is literally the worse thing you could have done to a youtuber. You can basically destroy their livelihood for doing so.
Which is why I'd say that anybody who abuse strike/claim for seconds worth of material is a cunt for me.

You're cunt TS, a huge cunt at that.
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fuck off ya content stealer.
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QUOTE(viole @ Sep 21 2020, 07:40 AM)
fuck off ya content stealer.
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and anybody who defend a strike troll a cunt too.

Fuck off ya cunt.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 07:41 AM)
and anybody who defend a strike troll a cunt too.

Fuck off ya cunt.
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confirm content stealer ni. damn low class mentality.

beg for it la boi. dont just steal.
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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:49 AM)
I taggeg him on my twitter post about it since i couldn't dm his twitter.. but he no replay
so next day i report laaa...
i thought he could be civilize and ask me to retract back the claim...
but instead he make new video  sad.gif
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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:49 AM)
I taggeg him on my twitter post about it since i couldn't dm his twitter.. but he no replay
so next day i report laaa...
i thought he could be civilize and ask me to retract back the claim...
but instead he make new video  sad.gif
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Obviously he wabts the drama involved with the copyright strike.

Apa lagi /k army. Assemble! Lets help our brother out!
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QUOTE(viole @ Sep 21 2020, 07:43 AM)
confirm content stealer ni. damn low class mentality.

beg for it la boi. dont just steal.
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If you think that its worth destroying somebody livelihood over such a petty shit, then then by all mean please do it.
But its still doesn't absolve you and TS from being a goddam massive cunt.

I fucking hate youtuber strike troll with all my heart.
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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:49 AM)
I taggeg him on my twitter post about it since i couldn't dm his twitter.. but he no replay
so next day i report laaa...
i thought he could be civilize and ask me to retract back the claim...
but instead he make new video  sad.gif
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This guy makes money from drama so of course he'd make content out of this issue. He's famous so I doubt he has time to go through Twitter tags. He has a business email listed on this youtube page as well so you should contact him directly.

On the bright side, all this drama is exposure for you too. I bet your portfolio is getting a lot of views.

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lol all this guy do is rant in his video
is a rant channel basicly
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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:49 AM)
I taggeg him on my twitter post about it since i couldn't dm his twitter.. but he no replay
so next day i report laaa...
i thought he could be civilize and ask me to retract back the claim...
but instead he make new video  sad.gif
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He could still be sleeping la. Different time zone and all. Should wait at least 1.5 day.
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QUOTE(Cha3m @ Sep 21 2020, 05:41 AM)
Not a fan of his video,

But it seems you are too harsh.

Based on video;
- Picture added by Editor
- Did not get any notification from you
- Picture trademark not remove
- 3 copyright strike will get his channel terminate, block source of income.
You’re not entirely wrong but should give a reasonable duration before taking action. Also it looks like you simply copy right strike him because you hate him.
user posted image

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agree with this, kenapa tak bagi peluang at least 3 days warning. Destroying ppl career without even negotiate, not cool bro
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QUOTE(viole @ Sep 21 2020, 07:43 AM)
confirm content stealer ni. damn low class mentality.

beg for it la boi. dont just steal.
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bet he's the kind of cunt that ask designers to design for free, then cry when people disturb his livelihood.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 07:41 AM)
and anybody who defend a strike troll a cunt too.

Fuck off ya cunt.
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Strike troll? Ts artwork was used, so which part of it makes him a strike troll? Udunchibai.gif
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ Sep 21 2020, 07:48 AM)
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Please fucking don't.
Did you read what TS did? He copy strike a video that show his artwork for 4 seconds.

FOUR FUCKING SECONDS.

The one who escalate this is TS who went to strike said video, which could've result in the whole channel taken down.
Robbing a youtuber out of his source of income.
TS also didn't exhaust all means of contacting him, simply tagging him on twitter and waited less than 20 hours to strike him down. ranting.gif

We would make a fool out of ourself if we rally behind TS.
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Sep 21 2020, 07:50 AM)
Strike troll? Ts artwork was used, so which part of it makes him a strike troll? Udunchibai.gif
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TWO SECONDS ranting.gif
I thought it was 4 seconds, but apparently his artwork only appeared for TWO FUCKING SECONDS.

This is even worse than I thought, TS is a major cunt.



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youtube system suck
TS is sh1tty too

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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 07:53 AM)
Please fucking don't.
Did you read what TS did? He copy strike a video that show his artwork for 4 seconds.

FOUR FUCKING SECONDS.

The one who escalate this is TS who went to strike said video, which could've result in the whole channel taken down.
Robbing a youtuber out of his source of income.
TS also didn't exhaust all means of contacting him, simply tagging him on twitter and waited less than 20 hours to strike him down. ranting.gif

We would make a fool out of ourself if we rally behind TS.
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The YouTuber shouldn't have done so in the first place. He knew what he was doing, he knew what might happen, but he couldn't care less for a simple credit.

It was his choice to face the consequences, just that he didn't expect that it turned into such horrible event for him.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 07:37 AM)
Its not a misinformation since TS couldn't reach him on twitter with the stranger direct message block, which is a pretty common thing.

TS could've tweet about it, but didn't.
TS could've make a reddit thread about, but didn't.
TS could've create a dA thread about it, but didn't.
TS could've e-mail him about it but didn't.

TS went directly towards copy right strike after half assed attempt to reach him on twitter.
For youtuber, this is equivalent of getting shot for shit talking somebody. Its the worse thing TS could do.
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you bodoh ka, TS tweeted him

AMDK could've tweet about it, before using, but didn't.
AMDK could've create a dA thread about it, before using but didn't.
AMDK could've e-mail him about it before using but didn't.

The burden is lies on the one who is intended to use content for MONEY and you expect to artist come knock you door with gift to allow you to use their content
GILA!
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famous?
who?
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 08:00 AM)
you bodoh ka, TS tweeted him

AMDK could've tweet about it, before using, but didn't.
AMDK could've create a dA thread about it, before using but didn't.
AMDK could've e-mail him about it before using but didn't.

The burden is lies on the one who is intended to use content for MONEY and you expect to artist come knock you door with gift to allow you to use their content
GILA!
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I am fine if the youtuber replied and said 'fuck off, were not taken it down'.
But TS didn't even wait for his reply and went straight for a strike.

Also, who the fuck would've think that there would be an artist as petty as TS that would strike a fucking video for TWO SECONDS worth of appearance.
This youtuber is definitely is a wrong here for using his artwork without a permission, but that doesn't make TS any less piece of shit.
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Tell him u are the creator n do video about ur art being used without permission
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famous?
who?
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tbf
I think shoulda give him a bit more time than 1 day, ayam oso waited a few days before client reply since diff timezones, or the person could still be busy.
still got 1-2 sohai still owing me payment dry.gif

anyway, the fella build his content/fanbase over outrage and victim mentality, not really that gooding since is quite easy to turn into "if you're against me you must be with their side!" shakehead.gif
there are few other pipu that's also build their content off of dramar and such. for most of those contents ayam just eat popcorn lor

should expect more P plates suddenly posting in here wor? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(haroldz123 @ Sep 21 2020, 08:08 AM)
Tell him u are the creator n do video about ur art being used without permission
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Nah, in the eye of youtube community TS is the worse of the worse.
He would only bring ire and condemnation.

I've seen bigger youtuber fell from grace from these striking fiasco, TS definitely doesn't stand a chance.
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I am fine if the youtuber replied and said 'fuck off, were not taken it down'.
But TS didn't even wait for his reply and went straight for a strike.

Also, who the fuck would've think that there would be an artist as petty as TS that would strike a fucking video for TWO SECONDS worth of appearance.
This youtuber is definitely is a wrong here for using his artwork without a permission, but that doesn't make TS any less piece of shit.
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Why dodged the question? WHY AMDK DIDNT ASK TS WHEN THEY CREATING THE CONTENT?
What stupid comment say TS didnt wait for his reply TS so nice let them so long to contact him when they creating already

next time when you take your monthly income, give me RM10 since its just only TEN RINGGIT
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how's that 'your mom is green' magic word works out so far?

meme aside, actually TS can tweet, reddit, youtube replies or whatever. get him noticed in 2-3 days. only to strike after no responds or agreements has been made. sure TS and others would argue why would TS put effort into communication when the youtuber dont? its to not letting any loophole or opportunity to retaliate. put the youtuber guy into absolute guilty until no way to spin in around.

stolen creative content is really a huge issue in malaysia. but fucking MCMC dont even other with it. banning shit and there is more of a priority
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 08:12 AM)
Why dodged the question? WHY AMDK DIDNT ASK TS WHEN THEY CREATING THE CONTENT?
What stupid comment say TS didnt wait for his reply TS so nice let them so long to contact him when they creating already

next time when you take your monthly income, give me RM10 since its just only TEN RINGGIT
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First of all, its the editor who added the image, not the youtuber himself.
TS also stated that he strike the video the very next day he tweeted about it.
Why the fuck would I give you 10 ringgit? That analogy doesn't make any fucking sense at all.

Like I said, the youtuber is in the wrong for using somebody artwork.
But risking destroying his whole career for it? For two fucking seconds of TS artwork flashing on a screen? Two seconds out of 600 seconds worth of vid?

TS is in the right for the strike, but like I said over and over again, it doesn't make him less of a cunt.
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Can’t believe there are people defending this neckbeard.

Yeah ts could have tried a lot more ways to reach out to him, but he does not have the responsibility to do so. It’s merely a courtesy that should not be expected of him since his content was stolen and he is a victim.

YouTube is kind enough to give three chances to literal thieves. Instead of trying to cancel the victim, perhaps he should be more careful with his content in the future. Destroying his livelihood? Give me a fucking break.
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This dude is a famous troll in the mtg community he got banned by wotc and now hes doing non-mtg content.
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Then u counter back with another video
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First of all, its the editor who added the image, not the youtuber himself.
TS also stated that he strike the video the very next day he tweeted about it.
Why the fuck would I give you 10 ringgit? That analogy doesn't make any fucking sense at all.

Like I said, the youtuber is in the wrong for using somebody artwork.
But risking destroying his whole career for it? For two fucking seconds of TS artwork flashing on a screen? Two seconds out of 600 seconds worth of vid?

TS is in the right for the strike, but like I said over and over again, it doesn't make him less of a cunt.
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Dont bodoh here, in a company if staff do wrong, the ultimate responsibility lies on the Director
In this situation its AMDK responsibility to make sure the editor do things correctly
And the AMDK sure will do a final review it before he put in and upload video, means he ACKNOWLEDGED the content is stolen and NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE AMDK

Keep bodoh spinning here and there, LET ME REPHASE TO YOU CLEARLY
-The burden lies on Youtuber to give proper credit when they first creating the content. TS gave so many leeway time for him to properly contact and give credit but AMDK didnt
-If the EDITOR didnt know, it is AMDK responsibility to know what to do since he is the boss. UNLESS this AMDK dont have brain to read all the T&C when setting up the channel whose purpose is to make MONEY


JUST 2 SECOND MAH JUST 10 RINGGIT MAH
If i stab you, just a light stab mah, wont destroy your whole life one, no need be serious

want to suck AMDK dick just say lah we understand one


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I'm leaning towards this.
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QUOTE(Zephyr_Mage @ Sep 21 2020, 08:23 AM)
Can’t believe there are people defending this neckbeard.

Yeah ts could have tried a lot more ways to reach out to him, but he does not have the responsibility to do so. It’s merely a courtesy that should not be expected of him since his content was stolen and he is a victim.

YouTube is kind enough to give three chances to literal thieves. Instead of trying to cancel the victim, perhaps he should be more careful with his content in the future. Destroying his livelihood? Give me a fucking break.
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I am not defending this neckbeard specifically, I am defending YouTube creator in general.
I would understand if TS artwork have significant presence in the video content, but its 2 fucking seconds dog doh.gif
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 07:46 AM)
If you think that its worth destroying somebody livelihood over such a petty shit, then then by all mean please do it.
But its still doesn't absolve you and TS from being a goddam massive cunt.

I fucking hate youtuber strike troll with all my heart.
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whos the bigger cunt? the guy who stole or the guy who defended his own rights?

and dont waste time to asnwer. coz i already knew whats your choice.

you belong to goblin dens, you ugly green thief.
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 08:35 AM)
Dont bodoh here, in a company if staff do wrong, the ultimate responsibility lies on the Director
In this situation its AMDK responsibility to make sure the editor do things correctly
And the AMDK sure will do a final review it before he put in and upload video, means he ACKNOWLEDGED the content is stolen and NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE AMDK

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Like I fucking said, TS in the right for claiming the rights for his artwork.
Read what I wrote retard.

QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 08:35 AM)
-The burden lies on Youtuber to give proper credit when they first creating the content. TS gave so many leeway time for him to properly contact and give credit but AMDK didnt
-If the EDITOR didnt know, it is AMDK responsibility to know what to do since he is the boss. UNLESS this AMDK dont have brain to read all the T&C when setting up the channel whose purpose is to make MONEY
JUST 2 SECOND MAH JUST 10 RINGGIT MAH
If i stab you, just a light stab mah, wont destroy your whole life one, no need be serious

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TS didn't give him ANY LEEWAY at all. There is ZERO DISCUSSION involving TS and the Youtuber.
TS went to strike him less than 24 hours after tagging him in a fucking tweet.
This not stab vs stab, this is slap vs a shoot in the head.

I repeat, EVEN THOUGH TS IS IN THE RIGHT TO DO SO, IT DOESN'T MAKE HIM LESS OF A CUNT.


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QUOTE(viole @ Sep 21 2020, 08:44 AM)
whos the bigger cunt? the guy who stole or the guy who defended his own rights?

and dont waste time to asnwer. coz i already knew whats your choice.

you belong to goblin dens, you ugly green thief.
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TS value his artwork, 2 worth seconds of it, as equivalent to a man whole career and hardwork.
Which makes him a bigger cunt.


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they will use what ever method to make them femous and gain profit.
alot of video or jewtuber using song , music, or movie clip without permission, sometime the copyrighter just open one eye and close another...bcos it also help to promote their product.

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QUOTE(limfreelance @ Sep 21 2020, 08:53 AM)
welcome to internet world.
they will use what ever method to make them femous and gain profit.
alot of video or jewtuber using song , music, or movie clip without permission, sometime the copyrighter just open one eye and close another...bcos it also help to promote their product.
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I would be on TS side if his artwork is indeed being used for profit.
But a mere 2 seconds worth of appearance is definitely ain't it chief. shakehead.gif


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Too many bodo defending stupid pencuri youtuber. Even if the artwork appear for one second in your video. It still appear in your video without permission of the owner as you stealing it. Lmao. Why dodging wit another excuses. Last last blame the victim.Youtuber semua bodo ka

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This mat salleh youtuber use my artwork without permission... I copyright strike him and the video got deleted...
now he angry and make video about it in retaliation
because of this video all my social media kena flamed already by his fans
His toxic fans really effect my mental health
I couldn't sleep, lost my appetite and haven't eaten anything since 6am yesterday sad.gif


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contact him, say take down or copystrike you.

or pay you money or royalty settle for life, where your brain?
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 08:39 AM)
I am not defending this neckbeard specifically, I am defending YouTube creator in general.
I would understand if TS artwork have significant presence in the video content, but its 2 fucking seconds dog  doh.gif
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im going to say that not defending your rights when others are profiting off it, even for 2 seconds, is being a beta.
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Did not watch the video tho

If he does not censor out your name in your art, view it as free promo

If he censor out your name in the art, it's your rights to strike his video
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im going to say that not defending your rights when others are profiting off it, even for 2 seconds, is being a beta.
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did the beardboy use his image for monetization? or in any way to gain monetary profits?
else if he's a millionaire and vengeful kind, TS is in for a hell of a ride.
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im going to say that not defending your rights when others are profiting off it, even for 2 seconds, is being a beta.
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TS can defend his rights, but he definitely went too far for it.
TS have different way and method to protect his rights, but striking a youtube channel is equivalent of maiming a pickpocket thieves.


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QUOTE(DukeHyou @ Sep 21 2020, 09:02 AM)
did the beardboy use his image for monetization? or in any way to gain monetary profits?
else if he's a millionaire and vengeful kind, TS is in for a hell of a ride.
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its youtube. and of course he get profit for it.

still want to give money to ungrateful bastard. nahh /k army dont think so.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 08:46 AM)
Like I fucking said, TS in the right for claiming the rights for his artwork.
Read what I wrote retard.
TS didn't give him ANY LEEWAY at all. There is ZERO DISCUSSION involving TS and the Youtuber.
TS went to strike him less than 24 hours after tagging him in a fucking tweet.
This not stab vs stab, this is slap vs a shoot in the head.

I repeat,  EVEN THOUGH TS IS IN THE RIGHT TO DO SO, IT DOESN'T MAKE HIM LESS OF A CUNT.
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Dont BODOH

LEEWAY is given starting from Editor putting it in video until it is posted, the fuck is no leeway, this process might be DAYS or WEEKS



You want to know what cunt is
Editor himself putting the stolen content and no tell his AMDK boss, CUNT
AMDK himself didnt properly teach his Editor what to do with non-free content, CUNT
AMDK himself acknowledge it when uploading it to Youtube, CUNT
If TS no go report or anything AMDK think it is okay to do so, CUNT
versus
You said TS not giving enough time, CUNT (not really valid reason above)


so 4 CUNT vs 1 CUNT
which one is more CUNT

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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:36 AM)
This mat salleh youtuber use my artwork without permission... I copyright strike him and the video got deleted...
now he angry and make video about it in retaliation
because of this video all my social media kena flamed already by his fans
His toxic fans really effect my mental health
I couldn't sleep, lost my appetite and haven't eaten anything since 6am yesterday sad.gif


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before /k/ strikes, we need to make sure your story is valid. what proof do you have?
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 09:07 AM)
Dont BODOH

LEEWAY is given starting from Editor putting it in video until it is posted, the fuck is no leeway, this process might be DAYS or WEEKS
You want to know what cunt is
Editor himself knowing it is stolen content, CUNT
AMDK himself acknowledge it when uploading it to Youtube, CUNT
If TS no go report or anything AMDK think it is okay to do so, CUNT
versus
You said TS not giving enough time, CUNT (not really valid reason above)
so 3 CUNT vs 1 CUNT
which one is more CUNT
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The level of cuntness isn't the amount of time you're being a cunt, its how big your fuck up is.

If you still want to quantifies cuntness in numbers, than striking a youtuber is worth 1000 cunts.

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The question is, did he crop the name in the artwork?
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lol this guy. He rants and rave about SJW, LGBTQ and anything that is activist-related... but when people criticize him for doing the same thing for the opposite sides, he can't take it.

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Here is what TS look for me.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 09:10 AM)
The level of cuntness isn't the amount of time you're being a cunt, its how big your fuck up is.

If you still want to quantifies cuntness in numbers, than striking a youtuber is worth 1000 cunts.
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No words anymore huh? Dont know how to defend AMDK then just simply slap a number on something I can also say stealing content is 10000 cunts



Also by Youtube T&C, even if I dont read them, by common sense it will include what to do with others people content, including how to properly credit
And who lies the ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY? Im talking about the ULTIMATE aka FINAL responsibility

Continue list out what wrong from TS lah, come I wait for you biggrin.gif
I already list out a few
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 09:16 AM)
No words anymore huh? Dont know how to defend AMDK then just simply slap a number on something I can also say stealing content is 10000 cunts
Also by Youtube T&C, even if I dont read them, by common sense it will include what to do with others people content, including how to properly credit
And who lies the ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY? Im talking about the ULTIMATE aka FINAL responsibility

Continue list out what wrong from TS lah, come I wait for you biggrin.gif
I already list out a few
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Are you fucking retarded or simply unable to read?

TS is in the right for doing it.
But that doesn't make him any different than all those copyright company and lawyer who copy strike everything on youtube.

Which everybody fucking hate them for doing so and a bunch of cunts in the eye of community.


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TS I support you. one of my Video also deleted by Youtube becoz an idoit files a strike but the video I 100% recorded by my self. idiot youtube also dunno how to compare. I using i7 Vega64 he using i3 laptop to do the benchmark !!
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i am with TS on this..

yes.. YT copyright system might be broken.. but since you wanna be a youtuber, u gotta take in all the good and bad..

first it is 2 secs, then it will be 20 secs and when u try to oject, then they will say u didnt object b4 when they use it for 2 secs..

watch his whole video...

not once did he even try to apologize.. and he is assuming alot of TS' motive

if some of what he said is quite threatening "if he is smart he will contact me"

yeap.. thief who got caught is now trying to use his mob fans to "cancel" someone else, an action he claims to hate..

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Sep 21 2020, 09:11 AM)
The question is, did he crop the name in the artwork?
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maintaining © symbol doesnt mean you're automatically free to use other people's work. It means, you must ask for permission (or pay money for it).

Same like pirated software, hackers never remove the copyright notice.. Hackers just modify the software by removing time limit, unlock all features.. If using this logic, pirated softwares are legal coz copyright notice has not been removed..
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 09:19 AM)
Are you fucking retarded or simply unable to read?

TS is in the right for doing it.
But that doesn't make him any different than all those copyright company and lawyer who copy strike everything on youtube.

Which everybody fucking hate them for doing so and a bunch of cunts in the eye of community.
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Dont pusing sini pusing sana, I am asking you whose fault and responsibility is this and you told me it is TS "rights"
If I stab you with a chainsaw its not my fault or responsibility but you can go report if you want or if you feel like it

Wow I didnt know TS is a copyright company. Bravo TS has a big company and a group of big lawyers to find those content thieves
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 09:24 AM)
Dont pusing sini pusing sana, I am asking you whose fault and responsibility is this and you told me it is TS "rights"
If I stab you with a chainsaw its not my fault or responsibility but you can go report if you want or if you feel like it

Wow I didnt know TS is a copyright company. Bravo TS has a big company and a group of big lawyers to find those content thieves
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TS is not a copy right company, but his action makes him like one.

You also need to stop using these shitty stab analogy.
It makes it look like you don't understood how severe this strike thing is for Youtuber.


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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 09:19 AM)
Are you fucking retarded or simply unable to read?

TS is in the right for doing it.
But that doesn't make him any different than all those copyright company and lawyer who copy strike everything on youtube.

Which everybody fucking hate them for doing so and a bunch of cunts in the eye of community.
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only the wrong community hate it.

and if ts is right, then that means you are wrong.
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What's the argument about? TS didn't want his work to be used without permission and so he used Youtube's own procedures. He actually created and owns the image in question, so what's the problem? He cannot deal with the aftermath, that's another thing.


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QUOTE(viole @ Sep 21 2020, 09:25 AM)
only the wrong community hate it.

and if ts is right, then that means you are wrong.
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TS is right under the eye of the copyright law.

But can't he be a bit of a fine human being and resolve this without risking somebody else career?
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TS is right under the eye of the copyright law.

But can't he be a bit of a fine human being and resolve this without risking somebody else career?
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ts is right. fullstop.

and its the guy who need to be a fine human being and ask for courtesy first.
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I wonder why ts made fan love with gundam and poky......
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TS used a totally valid channel to address an issue

Meanwhile haters say "kasi chan la machaa"
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If this was before the takedown I would suggest for him to credit you(free marketing) if his channel is monetized you can ask for compensation etc, but regardless he is still in the wrong for using your work..

The thing is copyright is a very difficult issue, this is my knowledge is a communication student/part timr youtuber, if anyone from /k work in our legal system please correct where im wrong

About copyright:

1) Youtube

Music/video on YouTube you can legally use it in your own YouTube video less than 10 sec (link di bawah)

But the copyright strike algorithm is broken, even if you use 5second video, algorithm gonna get take down then you have to fight saying that is fair usage

For youtube you can use certain things as commentary/parody/review Refer this (https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9783148?hl=en)

2) Artwork/image posted in socmed

Technically you can use anyone's work/image that is published on social media(since its a public domain)
Example: you can repost the picture of your fav artist(that he/she have uploded before) on your social media

But you cannot impersonate them, claim the picture is taken by you(when it's not), cannot use it for profit, advertisement etc, one



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.c...1454780%3famp=1
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QUOTE(shahrul09 @ Sep 21 2020, 09:55 AM)
Too many bodo defending stupid pencuri youtuber. Even if the artwork appear for one second in your video. It still appear in your video without permission of the owner as you stealing it. Lmao. Why dodging wit another excuses. Last last blame the victim.Youtuber semua bodo ka
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Not this guy again, last time kena ban in mtg cause harassing some woman play mtg. Then become drama channel.

Now curi artwork bs.

Best ts comeout with recipts and wait for dramaalert kinda drama channel pickup and boom there goes jeremy again.

Art theif is art theif.

He can make rant as much as he can do, you can report to youtube that quaterung is harassing you causing clout harassment. They just added this new rules last week.


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Sorry, but I also think TS is over reacting. Should have at least tried harder to reach out to the other party. Maybe wait a couple of days for a reply before a copystrike.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 09:25 AM)
TS is not a copy right company, but his action makes him like one.

You also need to stop using these shitty stab analogy.
It makes it look like you don't understood how severe this strike thing is for Youtuber.
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It makes it look like you don't understood how severe this strike thing is for Youtuber.
AMDK himself already UNDERSTOOD how severe is strike is and acknowledged it by signing Youtube T&C but still ignoring it and think he can escape/get out by taking people content without credit.


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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 09:19 AM)
Are you fucking retarded or simply unable to read?

TS is in the right for doing it.
But that doesn't make him any different than all those copyright company and lawyer who copy strike everything on youtube.

Which everybody fucking hate them for doing so and a bunch of cunts in the eye of community.
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In which universe actually you're coming from? TS is just an individual whose his artwork is clearly been taken without permission and use for monetary purposes. You claim him to be similar like stupid lawyer that strike channel for fun?

Let me give you a scenario so you 2inch can understand the situation. TS work hard to buy car then you just simply pinjam and take his car go do Grab make money. TS call police to get his car back and part of Grab income to cover his losses (mileage of the car) You mad because said 'I only pinjam why need to paid'

If this scenario still cannot embeded to your mind go print this out and eat it. Maybe it will register better in the brain.
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Haiya, if want to use someone's stuff, ask permission 1st laa.. adoi..
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Sorry, but I also think TS is over reacting. Should have at least tried harder to reach out to the other party. Maybe wait a couple of days for a reply before a copystrike.
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happen to see your comment

look at my response to one AMDK jilater


Dont bodoh here, in a company if staff do wrong, the ultimate responsibility lies on the Director
In this situation its AMDK responsibility to make sure the editor do things correctly
And the AMDK sure will do a final review it before he put in and upload video, means he ACKNOWLEDGED the content is stolen and NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE AMDK

TS in any shape, manner or form has given AMDK more than enough time to do it, it can be days or even weeks

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Actually ts is pokimane simp
Uol kena baited lol
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In which universe actually you're coming from? TS is just an individual whose his artwork is clearly been taken without permission and use for monetary purposes. You claim him to be similar like stupid lawyer that strike channel for fun?

Let me give you a scenario so you 2inch can understand the situation. TS work hard to buy car then you just simply pinjam and take his car go do Grab make money. TS call police to get his car back and part of Grab income to cover his losses (mileage of the car) You mad because said 'I only pinjam why need to paid'

If this scenario still cannot embeded to your mind go print this out and eat it. Maybe it will register better in the brain.
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TS could've properly contacted him.
TS could've took down the video, or at worse monetize the money with claim.
But TS choose to strike the whole fucking channel and could've ended a man career right then and there.

Your analogy is not accurate, actually.
What the TS in the analogy did would only lead to getting his car back and maybe the Grab income.
But what the TS did with the copy right claim could've ended a youtuber career. Somebody livelihood.
If the Grab analogy would lead to said guy getting fired, then you can say its the same.

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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 02:13 AM)
ItsAgundam msg me and ask permission first before using it on his video

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Actually i am confuse did u draw the whole thing from scratch digitally , the gundam like man and the girl picture or u just edit and photoshop part of it. The video Seem like got other people animate it use as talking animation guy gundam and live stream avatar animated girl in purple dress.

Youre the one that created the art work the whole thing and idea, new character, guy gundam kiss the purple dress girl or copy edit the art work from the guy gundam talking animation and live stream girl in purple avatar. What is it about?

QUOTE(chitchat @ Sep 21 2020, 02:25 AM)
Good job TS,

1) Gonna teach him that you cant simply use ppl art work.
2) He doesnt sound apologetic either, use ppl art work, kena report then blame ppl not report to him first. WTF, first u apologize and not make a rant video. so LCLY.
3) Dont be afraid of his scared tactic, what go to court etc. Fair use or not is not your problem, he use your art work which he himself acknowledge and you only exercise your right to report to youtube. He can sue youtube if he want them to retract the strike, there is no way he can bring u to court.
4) I dunno how his fans harass u, but dont give in to bully.
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So where will he sue ts? Usa? Not like usa will extradite ts from malayisa and will pull ts to America court. He gonna pay ts to come to usa? Good la ts got free vacation. If he come malaysia, different court system dy. Summore not 10 to 15 ke will spend more.

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QUOTE(zeese @ Sep 21 2020, 09:22 AM)
maintaining © symbol doesnt mean you're automatically free to use other people's work. It means, you must ask for permission (or pay money for it).

Same like pirated software, hackers never remove the copyright notice.. Hackers just modify the software by removing time limit, unlock all features.. If using this logic, pirated softwares are legal coz copyright notice has not been removed..
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Alright thanks. So conclusion, it's still wrong to use without permission.
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I say strike him 2 more times
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Strike him 1 more times only, then this fella will automatic become pussy. as he cant afford to have 3 strike. the impact of lost account much much more big to him.

If 2 strike under his belts, can see automatic he become goodboy.kek

That law bullshit things is just scare tactics..
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 09:45 AM)
TS could've properly contacted him.
TS could've took down the video, or at worse monetize the money with claim.
But TS choose to strike the whole fucking channel and could've ended a man career right then and there.

Your analogy is not accurate, actually.
What the TS in the analogy did would only lead to getting his car back and maybe the Grab income.
But what the TS did with the copy right claim could've ended a youtuber career. Somebody livelihood.
If the Grab analogy would lead to said guy getting fired, then you can say its the same.
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It’s just a matter of time since the quartering will get striked since he didn’t even get the permission from copyright owners such as TS. Since he is Youtuber, he should’ve known this is the risk and he should get permission if he didn’t create it and his livelihood depends on it. Doesn’t matter it is only used for a split second, or 10 seconds, wrong is still wrong. He should’ve known better. Still has 2 more “lives” and he better be good from now on. 2 more strikes and get a new job.
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 09:43 AM)
happen to see your comment

look at my response to one AMDK jilater
Dont bodoh here, in a company if staff do wrong, the ultimate responsibility lies on the Director
In this situation its AMDK responsibility to make sure the editor do things correctly
And the AMDK sure will do a final review it before he put in and upload video, means he ACKNOWLEDGED the content is stolen and NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE AMDK

TS in any shape, manner or form has given AMDK more than enough time to do it, it can be days or even weeks
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It just so happens the other party is an ang moh. My reply will be the same whatever race the guy is.

For me, it is like driving a car. Even though I am in the right, I will still give way if I can avoid an accident. I wont agonize over it for days.

Edit: from what I have read the copystrike came the day after the twitter tag? please correct me if i am wrong.


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hmm, but do your artwork infringe on the gundam copyright too ? I dont know much about the legalities, I do watch this channel but mainly for him bashing feminist,etc.

I do agree that the fans are toxic bunch.
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QUOTE(DS51 @ Sep 21 2020, 09:49 AM)
Strike him 1 more times only, then this fella will automatic become pussy. as he cant afford to have 3 strike. the impact of lost account much much more big to him.

If 2 strike under his belts, can see automatic he become goodboy.kek

That law bullshit things is just scare tactics..
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He just create new channel and his fan base just migrate to his new channel. Then he will sue ts
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Oh fucking god, I just watched TS posted vid by the youtuber who he strike.
I didn't watch it initially because I honestly doesn't care much about the context and focused more on the strike abuse.

Its even fucking worse than I thought.
The youtuber didn't use TS artwork because it is TS artwork.
The youtuber used it because it is within the context of his video unrelated to said artwork.

This youtuber is making a commentary of another youtuber who used TS artwork, and said artwork appeared in a brief intro.

Its not OC DONUT STEAL artwork too, its a fanart of its'Agundam and PokiMane.
IF were talking about copyrights shit, TS doesn't even have a leg to stand on since its a fucking fan art.

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QUOTE(lahart @ Sep 21 2020, 09:44 AM)
Actually ts is pokimane simp
Uol kena baited lol
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i think i know the guy is itsAGundam
din know the girl is pokimane
heard so many times edi this girl's name? what her reputation meh? laugh.gif
i think something something with vtuber hmm.gif
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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Sep 21 2020, 09:35 AM)
Not this guy again, last time kena ban in mtg cause harassing some woman play mtg. Then become drama channel.

Now curi artwork bs.

Best ts comeout with recipts and wait for dramaalert kinda drama channel pickup and boom there goes jeremy again.

Art theif is art theif.

He can make rant as much as he can do, you can report to youtube that quaterung is harassing you causing clout harassment. They just added this new rules last week.
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Not sure whether you understand what's art thief? Means if this fake artist sell copyrights artwork from artist and sell illegal that's art thief coz he can make money. The YouTuber can't make money cos he or she just show the content of the news. Don't be stupid what's the difference art thief and youtuber content. Not defending for him, use the knowledge.

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He just create new channel and his fan base just migrate to his new channel. Then he will sue ts
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Not as simple as that dude. And do remember subsribers means almost nothing, while viewers means everything. His video got so many people watch due to youtube algorithm.

If new account, the youtube algorithm for his channel is in the bottom, while now is on top.

Thats why youtuber so scared if lost his account.

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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:36 AM)
This mat salleh youtuber use my artwork without permission... I copyright strike him and the video got deleted...
now he angry and make video about it in retaliation
because of this video all my social media kena flamed already by his fans
His toxic fans really effect my mental health
I couldn't sleep, lost my appetite and haven't eaten anything since 6am yesterday sad.gif


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Did you contacted this guy and tell him about he using your art and ask him to remove it? Or pay you for it?

To be fair, you should give chance to the guy, he using the art for 20 second and his entire youtube account been block. It's smashing his ricebowl. He might or might not know you're the original creator. But he do have right to be angry and he shouldn't be angry with you which in the video he isn't complaining about you but about youtube.

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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 09:51 AM)
Oh fucking god, I just watched TS posted vid by the youtuber who he strike.
I didn't watch it initially because I honestly doesn't care much about the context and focused more on the strike abuse.

Its even fucking worse than I thought.
The youtuber didn't use TS artwork because it is TS artwork.
The youtuber used it because it is within the context of his video unrelated to said artwork.

This youtuber is making a commentary of another youtuber who used TS artwork, and said artwork appeared in a brief intro.

Its not OC DONUT STEAL artwork too, its a fanart of its'Agundam and PokiMane.
IF were talking about copyrights shit, TS doesn't even have a leg to stand on since its a fucking fan art.
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So let me be clear, ts doenst even create new characters from scratch? man like gundam and girl in purple dress? He just use the idea of two existing characters and just photoshop, draw it digitally depicting 2 characters kissing?

Just like lucious fox say, good luck ts

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Sep 21 2020, 09:56 AM)
Did you contacted this guy and tell him about he using your art and ask him to remove it?  Or pay you for it?

To be fair, you should give chance to the guy, he using the art for 20 second and his entire youtube account been block. It's smashing his ricebowl. He might or might not know you're the original creator. But he do have right to be angry and he shouldn't be angry with you which in the video he isn't commissioning about you but about youtube.
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He is going to sue ts lol, coz he was marketing guy and he know s how the system works. But please lah don't shame in Malaysia. We gonna be famous in USA thanks to ts.

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Sep 21 2020, 09:50 AM)
It just so happens the other party is an ang moh. My reply will be the same whatever race the guy is.

For me, it is like driving a car. Even though I am in the right, I will still give way if I can avoid an accident. I wont agonize over it for days.

Edit: from what I have read the copystrike came the day after the twitter tag? please correct me if i am wrong.
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For the driving scenario, I think its somewhere along the lines when you study your P license you need to give way to people who want to pass you on fast lane. If someone want to vroom then you NEED to give way not you SHOULD give way

If want to incorporate TS scenario in car scenario, TS is driving on slow lane, but one lanci BMW want to cut on slow lane and want TS to move to fast lane so he can cut
which doesnt make sense

Legally it is AMDK responsibility
Morally TS has given enough time from the sec the Editor putting in content, if TS dont strike and nothing, I bet my left ball AMDK wont even talk about it or go find the proper artist
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oh fuck, smallpenguin, are you TS's boyfriend?

it's a simple matter, if TS copyrighted his artworks in malaysia, it is only for malaysia. it's a whole different story when crossing borders.

honestly though, that beardboy should sue youtube for unjust system but TS is the triggerbutton so he has to be dragged in.
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if plotect and simping a girl ok la.. this guy also ppl wan white knight
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QUOTE(DukeHyou @ Sep 21 2020, 10:01 AM)
oh fuck, smallpenguin, are you TS's boyfriend?

it's a simple matter, if TS copyrighted his artworks in malaysia, it is only for malaysia. it's a whole different story when crossing borders.

honestly though, that beardboy should sue youtube for unjust system but TS is the triggerbutton so he has to be dragged in.
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Omg TS please, please withdraw your strike.
I didn't want to say this in the first place, but as A FELLOW ARTIST I really really think its a good idea to withdraw from this.

Why? Because even you, yourself doesn't have the right for the image you claim you does.

I honestly thought it was an original artwork in the first place, but it turned out its a fan art for a rather notable figure.
You don't own the characters you drawn in said fan art, which is why fan art is not liable for any legal action and protected under free speech.
But in return you also can't monetize it, if you does, it open a can worm of legal attacks.


I thought you are a cunt first (YOU STILL ARE), but right now I am genuinely worried about you.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 07:04 AM)
For TS its maybe hours of work, but for youtuber its their lifetime of effort.

Copyright strike is literally the worse thing you could have done to a youtuber. You can basically destroy their livelihood for doing so.
Which is why I'd say that anybody who abuse strike/claim for seconds worth of material is a cunt for me.

You're cunt TS, a huge cunt at that.
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lul /k got youtube drama
2sec onot, steal is steal lol

dis BlackMambo rly hate youtube strikes lol
u youtuber ka blackmambo? Lai2 share channel. Let /k judge to sapork ur channel or gib u strike too?

it's entirely youtuber job to carefully avoid it
kenot free2 or careless at all
if kenak strike bcos stupid stealing, his fault lah lol
in dis case, youtuber fault

said TS acting like cunt company gibing strike, apakaupeduli? sukak ati TS lah it's his property
TS only acting like nintendo lol. It's fine if he donwan 'exposure'.
TS cunt onot, it's his property u care wot
sukak ati TS, his property
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Why used the destructive way to settle a dispute could struck a deal to promote ur artworks
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this incident remind me of lowyat phone stealing case...
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 10:00 AM)
For the driving scenario, I think its somewhere along the lines when you study your P license you need to give way to people who want to pass you on fast lane. If someone want to vroom then you NEED to give way not you SHOULD give way

If want to incorporate TS scenario in car scenario, TS is driving on slow lane, but one lanci BMW want to cut on slow lane and want TS to move to fast lane so he can cut
which doesnt make sense

Legally it is AMDK responsibility
Morally TS has given enough time from the sec the Editor putting in content, if TS dont strike and nothing, I bet my left ball AMDK wont even talk about it or go find the proper artist
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Erm, to me, TS is the one trying to overtake (within speed limits of course). The other party is probably a dickhead hogging the overtaking lane. TS flashed his lights once, and went full retard when the other party didn't do what he wanted fast enough.

Also, how often do you reply to everyone that mentions you on twitter?
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 09:51 AM)
Its even fucking worse than I thought.
The youtuber didn't use TS artwork because it is TS artwork.
The youtuber used it because it is within the context of his video unrelated to said artwork.

This youtuber is making a commentary of another youtuber who used TS artwork, and said artwork appeared in a brief intro.
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in other words, it falls under fair use?
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QUOTE(bukankhadam @ Sep 21 2020, 10:05 AM)
lul /k got youtube drama
2sec onot, steal is steal lol

dis BlackMambo rly hate youtube strikes lol
u youtuber ka blackmambo? Lai2 share channel. Let /k judge to sapork ur channel or gib u strike too?

it's entirely youtuber job to carefully avoid it
kenot free2 or careless at all
if kenak strike bcos stupid stealing, his fault lah lol
in dis case, youtuber fault

said TS acting like cunt company gibing strike, apakaupeduli? sukak ati TS lah it's his property
TS only acting like nintendo lol. It's fine if he donwan 'exposure'.
TS cunt onot, it's his property u care wot
sukak ati TS, his property
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Youtube strike is one of reason why youtube is no longer community focused.

But right now instead of calling TS out I advising TS to stop whatever the fuck he is doing right now.
I didn't know at first, but it turned out his artwork is a fan art of a famous figure.

TS himself doesn't own his artwork, but he is protected under free speech which allow him to draw and openly display it.
But he can't monetize it, like, at all.


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QUOTE(DukeHyou @ Sep 21 2020, 10:01 AM)
it's a simple matter, if TS copyrighted his artworks in malaysia, it is only for malaysia. it's a whole different story when crossing borders.
honestly though, that beardboy should sue youtube for unjust system but TS is the triggerbutton so he has to be dragged in.
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Dont care la, you choose to stay in youtube posting your content.
Then you play by youtube rules lo, this guy kena strike then go rant macam pussy kek (actually just for more viewing content). rolleyes.gif
As always: "lu x suka, lu keluar" rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 10:04 AM)
Omg TS please, please withdraw your strike.
I didn't want to say this in the first place, but as A FELLOW ARTIST I really really think its a good idea to withdraw from this.
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As A FELLOW /K, I say we kasi dia mati. Destroy his youtube channel rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 02:19 AM)
Are you fucking retarded or simply unable to read?

TS is in the right for doing it.
But that doesn't make him any different than all those copyright company and lawyer who copy strike everything on youtube.

Which everybody fucking hate them for doing so and a bunch of cunts in the eye of community.
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What I bolded is what matters.

The rest is just your opinion. Good for TS. People steal from you, strike them kaw. Don’t give face
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 10:04 AM)
Omg TS please, please withdraw your strike.
I didn't want to say this in the first place, but as A FELLOW ARTIST I really really think its a good idea to withdraw from this.

Why? Because even you, yourself doesn't have the right for the image you claim you does.

I honestly thought it was an original artwork in the first place, but it turned out its a fan art for a rather notable figure.
You don't own the characters you drawn in said fan art, which is why fan art is not liable for any legal action and protected under free speech.
But in return you also can't monetize it, if you does, it open a can worm of legal attacks.
I thought you are a cunt first (YOU STILL ARE), but right now I am genuinely worried about you.
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Are you a self-proclaimed artist who steals the artworks of others and acts like a fucking crybaby when you kena copyright strike?
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QUOTE(shotgun @ Sep 21 2020, 10:56 AM)
Not sure whether you understand what's art thief? Means if this fake artist sell copyrights artwork  from artist and sell illegal that's art thief coz he can make money. The YouTuber can't make money cos he or she just show the content of the news. Don't be stupid what's the difference art thief and youtuber content. Not defending for him, use the knowledge.
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Just realize i write half way then jump.

I about to say trademark and copyright system is 2 different thing. People are mix up this 2.

Art theif is art theif. Thats under trademark and for copyright is under fair use.

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Omg TS please, please withdraw your strike.
I didn't want to say this in the first place, but as A FELLOW ARTIST I really really think its a good idea to withdraw from this.

Why? Because even you, yourself doesn't have the right for the image you claim you does.

I honestly thought it was an original artwork in the first place, but it turned out its a fan art for a rather notable figure.
You don't own the characters you drawn in said fan art, which is why fan art is not liable for any legal action and protected under free speech.
But in return you also can't monetize it, if you does, it open a can worm of legal attacks.
I thought you are a cunt first (YOU STILL ARE), but right now I am genuinely worried about you.
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The avatar he draw didn't get permission from them until he surprise them.

So ya better be sorry than regret.
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Erm, to me, TS is the one trying to overtake (within speed limits of course). The other party is probably a dickhead hogging the overtaking lane. TS flashed his lights once, and went full retard when the other party didn't do what he wanted fast enough.

Also, how often do you reply to everyone that mentions you on twitter?
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To me its other picture, we all paint different picture
But at the end of the day, i support TS for strike, and maybe go for another strike for cyberbullying

Not like when TS report it automatically strike, sure the Youtube staff review it first and approve the strike
If Youtube say the strike is right then it is right, if that AMDK dont like, can go to another platform he is free to

I dont use any social media i just read lowyat if im bored, and even rarely reply here especially /k
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QUOTE(shotgun @ Sep 21 2020, 09:58 AM)
He is going to sue ts lol, coz he was marketing guy and he know s how the system works. But please lah don't shame in Malaysia. We gonna be famous in USA thanks to ts.
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What the youtuber said is correct though, if yes bringing this case to court, both of them will lose money. It's gundam fan art. Gundam has its own copyright.

TS can ask him to pay or to remove the artwork from his channel or to collaborate as in creating more art work for his future channel. No need to burn other people ricebowl.

TS can still fix this by contacting the youtuber and undo the copyright strike.
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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:36 AM)
This mat salleh youtuber use my artwork without permission... I copyright strike him and the video got deleted...
now he angry and make video about it in retaliation
Mat Salleh all believes they has right to do anything without permission.

For 2 months, my next door became airbnb. That Mat Salleh neighbour is the worst neighbour I ever had. Party till late night. He leave empty bottles and smelly trash outside his door. His drunk friends knock on my door late at night instead of his door. Makes lot of weird noise at all hours. Plays some stupid electric music instrument so loud until my children cannot study. A train of local sluts keep coming and going from next door and we encounter them in the lift when taking my children to school. It leaves bad impression on my daughter about what is normal behavior for women. Complain to JMC but JMC scared of Mat Salleh power.


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at least TS did try to ctc that guy, then the guy ignored hence why he decided to take it down.

its quite common in instagram though. if the person used ur photo without permission, its wrong if he does not at least tag u. if he did tag u, then all the more there is a good publicity for your page.
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QUOTE(cyhborg @ Sep 21 2020, 10:07 AM)
in other words, it falls under fair use?
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Even said artwork itself fall under fair use since its a fan-art.
TS doesn't own the characters he drawn in the fan art, he can't monetize it.

He can point and said 'I draw this' and maaybe print a couple of them and sell it on Comic Fiesta table.
But he definitely can't commercialize it nor claim it as his IP.
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Sep 21 2020, 11:12 AM)
What the youtuber said is correct though,  if yes bringing this case to court, both of them will lose money. It's gundam fan art. Gundam has its own copyright.

TS can ask him to pay or to remove the artwork from his channel or to collaborate as in creating more art work for his future channel. No need to burn other people ricebowl.

TS can still fix this by contacting the youtuber and undo the copyright strike.
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 10:12 AM)
To me its other picture, we all paint different picture
But at the end of the day, i support TS for strike, and maybe go for another strike for cyberbullying

Not like when TS report it automatically strike, sure the Youtube staff review it first and approve the strike
If Youtube say the strike is right then it is right, if that AMDK dont like, can go to another platform he is free to

I dont use any social media i just read lowyat if im bored, and even rarely reply here especially /k
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Dude stop, calm down a bit and let the bad blood between us set aside for a moment.

You need to advice TS to stop whatever the fuck he is doing.
He is not aware on what the fuck he is doing right now.

Said artwork is a fan-art, you can't monetize a fan-art.
The only reason why fan-art weren't gone in this capitalist world because it is protected under free use and fair rights.

But he can't monetize it nor claim it as his IP.
By striking the video he is essentially saying that he owns the artwork and the character as his IP, which he isn't.


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QUOTE(gohaikhan @ Sep 21 2020, 10:12 AM)
Mat Salleh all believes they has right to do anything without permission.

For 2 months, my next door became airbnb. That Mat Salleh neighbour is the worst neighbour I ever had. Party till late night. He leave empty bottles and smelly trash outside his door. His drunk friends knock on my door late at night instead of his door. Makes lot of weird noise at all hours. Plays some stupid electric music instrument so loud until my children cannot study. A train of local sluts keep coming and going from next door and we encounter them in the lift when taking my children to school. It leaves bad impression on my daughter about what is normal behavior for women. Complain to JMC but JMC scared of Mat Salleh power.
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Consider pindah rumah la.
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Lol, typical redneck.

Suddenly butthurted when involves money.

Even 1 day gap, it is valid because the traffic/view.

Purposely took the art from 3rd world expecting a smile?
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QUOTE(sunbearau @ Sep 21 2020, 02:23 AM)
If you watch the video he says that he will go to court to fight if the artwork is actually copyrighted by TS. So its not at YT but actually against TS.

You sure that he doesnt have the resources? He states that he is willing to drop 10 - 15k to bring this to court. Wont be suprised if he has that much cash considering his subs / views
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He might be cool to fight this in US.
Coming here, he will have a tough time.

Our orang kito mode will strike him to the ground before the case can even go to court.
The tokoh org kito will rightfully demo him into ashes before the game even started.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 10:13 AM)
Even said artwork itself fall under fair use since its a fan-art.
TS doesn't own the characters he drawn in the fan art, he can't monetize it.

He can point and said 'I draw this' and maaybe print a couple of them and sell it on Comic Fiesta table.
But he definitely can't commercialize it nor claim it as his IP.
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Actually I saw on reddit that TS was charging people for fanart / oc (up to 60). Just wondering if this is actually legal? Cause imagine if the youtuber fans decided to pick on this and send this along to representative companies.

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i believe is just a miscommunication from both sides, for a youtuber a strike on the channel is quite a grave issue, usually small copyrights holder communicate first and issue a DMCA takedown on the video itself after sometime (not just a day) if they fail to reach an agreement. Not directly strike his channel

So from a youtube community standpoint, this is a overreaction, its like bringing an army with machineguns to a dodgeball fight.

Usually strike are done by trolls or big corporations, so understandably if you are not a big corp, they will treat you like a troll. I hope you two able to reach for an agreement and solution to this problem.

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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 10:17 AM)
Dude stop, calm down a bit and let the bad blood between us set aside for a moment.

You need to advice TS to stop whatever the fuck he is doing.
He is not aware on what the fuck he is doing right now.

Said artwork is a fan-art, you can't monetize a fan-art.
The only reason why fan-art weren't gone in this capitalist world because it is protected under free use and fair rights.

But he can't monetize it nor claim it as his IP.
By striking the video he is essentially saying that he owns the artwork and the character as his IP, which he isn't.
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Not like when TS report it automatically strike, sure the Youtube staff review it first and approve the strike
If Youtube say the strike is right then it is right, if that AMDK dont like, can go to another platform he is free to
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 10:13 AM)
Even said artwork itself fall under fair use since its a fan-art.
TS doesn't own the characters he drawn in the fan art, he can't monetize it.

He can point and said 'I draw this' and maaybe print a couple of them and sell it on Comic Fiesta table.
But he definitely can't commercialize it nor claim it as his IP.
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if that's the case, then TS has no leg to stand on

i've made some fan art in the past, and i don't care if people use my art without asking; the character not even mine in the first place
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Not this pedo start spining round and round again.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 09:05 AM)
TS can defend his rights, but he definitely went too far for it.
TS have different way and method to protect his rights, but striking a youtube channel is equivalent of maiming a pickpocket thieves.
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i think i know the guy is itsAGundam
din know the girl is pokimane
heard so many times edi this girl's name? what her reputation meh? laugh.gif
i think something something with vtuber hmm.gif
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 10:17 AM)
Dude stop, calm down a bit and let the bad blood between us set aside for a moment.

You need to advice TS to stop whatever the fuck he is doing.
He is not aware on what the fuck he is doing right now.

Said artwork is a fan-art, you can't monetize a fan-art.
The only reason why fan-art weren't gone in this capitalist world because it is protected under free use and fair rights.

But he can't monetize it nor claim it as his IP.
By striking the video he is essentially saying that he owns the artwork and the character as his IP, which he isn't.
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that makes the case for a strike arguably stronger: by using his artwork, the youtuber exposed ts to the risk of litigation (of commercialising his fanart)

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QUOTE(sunbearau @ Sep 21 2020, 10:20 AM)
Actually I saw on reddit that TS was charging people for fanart / oc (up to 60). Just wondering if this is actually legal? Cause imagine if the youtuber fans decided to pick on this and send this along to representative companies.

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Commissioning aspect of it is fine, as long as it for private use and pleasure.

As for using it to advertise your own work, now that is in a gray area. But I think TS will be fine on that aspect.
I haven't seen anybody getting sued or took down their artwork for using it in their comm sheet.

As for me personally, definitely don't use other people IPs to advertise my work, but then again my main gigs is around original design, oc donut steel area and not fan arts in general.


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QUOTE(Newsray @ Sep 21 2020, 10:20 AM)
He might be cool to fight this in US.
Coming here, he will have a tough time.

Our orang kito mode will strike him to the ground before the case can even go to court.
The tokoh org kito will rightfully demo him into ashes before the game even started.
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Just 1 work have nothing to do with him and get sue lol

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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Sep 21 2020, 10:19 AM)
Aduh i checked youtube comments, dah mula ada yang bawang in BM as if people understand.

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QUOTE(sunbearau @ Sep 21 2020, 10:20 AM)
Actually I saw on reddit that TS was charging people for fanart / oc (up to 60). Just wondering if this is actually legal?
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technically not legal, but most of the time creators/companies look the other way because not worth their time/money to pursue in court
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Sep 21 2020, 10:26 AM)
that makes the case for a strike arguably stronger: by using his artwork, the youtuber exposed ts to the risk of litigation (of commercialising his fanart)
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Fair use mate.
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TS, that's not even your own original character or IP. You're literally using someone else's intellectual property, claiming it as your own, and then monetizing it.

Everything about that is a no-no. You could be served a Cease & Desist at any time. If anything - I'd be more concerned about that youtuber's fanbase reporting you making money off Bandai's IP and some kind of legal action results.

Wtf, if anything - you are open to litigation.
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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Sep 21 2020, 11:10 AM)
Dont care la, you choose to stay in youtube posting your content.
Then you play by youtube rules lo, this guy kena strike then go rant macam pussy kek (actually just for more viewing content).  rolleyes.gif
As always: "lu x suka, lu keluar"  rolleyes.gif
As A FELLOW /K, I say we kasi dia mati. Destroy his youtube channel  rclxm9.gif
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Copyright and fairuse in youtube is very different.
If your vid got monetize, use someone else art without acknowledge. You get strike in no time.

And jeremy make a rant video because hes running a drama channel thats wheres he made money.

Cant wait bugger channel picj this up and booms

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QUOTE(Omegalul @ Sep 21 2020, 10:33 AM)
TS, that's not even your own original character or IP. You're literally using someone else's intellectual property, claiming it as your own, and then monetizing it.

Everything about that is a no-no. You could be served a Cease & Desist at any time. If anything - I'd be more concerned about that youtuber's fanbase reporting you making money off Bandai's IP and some kind of legal action results.

Wtf, if anything - you are open to litigation.
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Worse part is, if anybody report all IPs in his twitter then his twitter Is gone

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I hope TS can win saman from bandai.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 10:32 AM)
Fair use mate.
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that doesnt protect ts from any allegation that ts sold the work to that youtuber for his public use.
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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Sep 21 2020, 10:34 AM)
Copyright and fairuse in youtube is very different.
If your vid got monetize, use someone else art without acknowledge. You get strike in no time.
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The problem is a lot youtuber is doing the same thing except copyright music and take video content from someone else can strike. Don't mess this YouTuber guy.

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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 02:36 AM)
This mat salleh youtuber use my artwork without permission... I copyright strike him and the video got deleted...
now he angry and make video about it in retaliation
because of this video all my social media kena flamed already by his fans
His toxic fans really effect my mental health
I couldn't sleep, lost my appetite and haven't eaten anything since 6am yesterday sad.gif


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So you just suddenly send copystrike? did you send a cease and desist letter first or a letter to negotiate?
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QUOTE(Killy @ Sep 21 2020, 01:46 AM)
dude you could have contacted him first instead of going for a strike straight
apparently, Youtube system is pretty terrible and they have very little leeway with strikes
if you watch his video, he says that he doesn't blame you but rather Youtube's system

personally I don't like his content, too sensationalized, dramatic
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He says that but still blames TS. Just ignore lah TS. Hopefully he gets a 3rd strike baru dia nangis darah.
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technically not legal, but most of the time creators/companies look the other way because not worth their time/money to pursue in court
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Ts use gundam without permission from Bandai so how? If want to sue artist using copyrights then all artist is in danger. Don't play fire and private message to youtuber instead public. Is making worse
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QUOTE(shotgun @ Sep 21 2020, 11:36 AM)
The problem is a lot youtuber is doing the same thing except copyright music and take video content from someone else can strike. Don't mess this YouTuber guy.
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Now ts problem is fought with the most vicious and most shady youtuber. Got lot of history, if bigger channel decide side with ts, he win. If not, this drama channel will fuel even more into oblivion.

And hes not 1at time got strike from copyright. Even mtg tries to cease him from using mtgheadquarter due to some drama.

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BANDAI going to give LOD to ts soon. better start looking for lawyer, ts.

Gundam IP doesn't belong to you.

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A lot of people missing the point here. The crux of the argument isn't that Bandai will not bother to pursue legal action against a nobody.

The main point is that TS made a thread where he made himself out to be some kind of victim / martyr, trying to illicit sympathy from /k

However, upon closer scrutiny - TS has been profiting off somebody else's IP, work, and claiming it as his own. Making him an art thief and intellectual property pirate.

So instead of this cringy "David vs. Goliath" narrative that he is trying to push, this is more like a Petaling Street Bootleg Vendor yelling like a hypocritical moron that another seller down the street is selling the same fake Gucci bag as he is.
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QUOTE(Omegalul @ Sep 21 2020, 10:44 AM)
A lot of people missing the point here. The crux of the argument isn't that Bandai will not bother to pursue legal action against a nobody.

The main point is that TS made a thread where he made himself out to be some kind of victim / martyr, trying to illicit sympathy from /k

However, upon closer scrutiny - TS has been profiting off somebody else's IP, work, and claiming it as his own. Making him an art thief and intellectual property pirate.

So instead of this cringy "David vs. Goliath" narrative that he is trying to push, this is more like a Petaling Street Bootleg Vendor yelling like a hypocritical moron that another seller down the street is selling the same fake Gucci bag as he is.
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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Sep 21 2020, 10:40 AM)
Now ts problem is fought with the most vicious and most shady youtuber. Got lot of history, if bigger channel decide side with ts, he win. If not, this drama channel will fuel even more into oblivion.

And hes not 1at time got strike from copyright. Even mtg tries to cease him from using mtgheadquarter due to some drama.
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TS doesn't even have right to his own said artwork, let alone claiming copy right abuse.

And no youtuber would side with TS lol. Strike and claim is literally the bane of the community.


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hmm... so what do I press to report that thief?
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oh ya, ayam tot heard of her from HeroHei or some other english discord server laugh.gif

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after reading more a bit about Bandai of all ppl going after independent artists...
monetizing self-made fanart is different wor.
if all those japunis company go after every single artist for litigation of their IP (for monetizing fanart of their IP), the doujin/comiket etc market won't exist. franchises like Fate/ Type-Moon, KanColle, Azur Lane, T&B, Nintama (and many other BL stuff) wont get nearly as big wor laugh.gif
big corporations wanna associate themselves with hamsap R34 doujin ar? that's where independent artists comes in to fulfill that demand brows.gif

and if corporation really goes after some one guy then it will be david vs goliath case lah



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What else TS have drawn but the IP not belong to him? Later kena saman by other people for using IP artwork to make profit how?

TS should really be worry.
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QUOTE(Omegalul @ Sep 21 2020, 10:44 AM)
A lot of people missing the point here. The crux of the argument isn't that Bandai will not bother to pursue legal action against a nobody.

The main point is that TS made a thread where he made himself out to be some kind of victim / martyr, trying to illicit sympathy from /k

However, upon closer scrutiny - TS has been profiting off somebody else's IP, work, and claiming it as his own. Making him an art thief and intellectual property pirate.

So instead of this cringy "David vs. Goliath" narrative that he is trying to push, this is more like a Petaling Street Bootleg Vendor yelling like a hypocritical moron that another seller down the street is selling the same fake Gucci bag as he is.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 10:28 AM)
Commissioning aspect of it is fine, as long as it for private use and pleasure.

As for using it to advertise your own work, now that is in a gray area. But I think TS will be fine on that aspect.
I haven't seen anybody getting sued or took down their artwork for using it in their comm sheet.


As for me personally, definitely don't use other people IPs to advertise my work, but then again my main gigs is around original design, oc donut steel area and not fan arts in general.
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well, TS will be fine as long as nobody messing with him and be a whistle blower to screw him up.
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you watch the vid la. he din blame ts. he blame youtube system instead
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This is mutually acquired destruction.
Should have contacted him, allow him to use the picture as the guy has good fanbase and indirectly ask him to point them to your site.
win-win
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Sep 21 2020, 10:36 AM)
that doesnt protect ts from any allegation that ts sold the work to that youtuber for his public use.
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It doesn't, just like it doesn't protect ts from drawing the artwork in the first regardless if he being paid to do so.

In this comic/art world we all rely on good wills of these companies.
And these companies in turn were hold favorably as a return. They are, after all, wouldn't want to draw the ire of their core fan base.

As for youtube video, fair rights is also a good will from youtube and the companies involved.
As long as you are not being blatant about it, this fair rights is applicable.

TS is like these IP company, but without good will, whom overzealously protect his IP.
But he is currently at a worse position since he doesn't have the right for this IP in the first place.

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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 11:49 AM)
TS doesn't even have right to his own said artwork, let alone claiming copy right abuse.

And no youtuber would side with TS lol. Strike and claim is literally the bane of the community.
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Probably ts would win in copyright and fair use.
Bandai would use trademark instead of copy right that another level of legal system.
Usually big company wont interfere these small drama. Cause will make big impact on sales.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 10:58 AM)
It doesn't, just like it doesn't protect ts from drawing the artwork in the first regardless if he being paid to do so.

In this comic/art world we all rely on good wills of these companies.
And these companies in turn were hold favorably as a return. They are, after all, wouldn't want to draw the ire of their core fan base.

As for youtube video, fair rights is also a good will from youtube and the companies involved.
As long as you are not being blatant about it, this fair rights is applicable.

TS is like these IP company, but without good will, whom overzealously protect his IP.
But he is currently at a worse position since he doesn't have the right for this IP in the first place.
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you can use all these words about goodwill, but simply using the artwork exposes ts to litigation risk - something which the youtuber has no right to do. the youtuber himself can get away by claiming fair use but he leaves ts holding the bag.

ts has a right in reporting it (although he would be wrong to profit from it) to protect himself. its like buying a car for private use then someone else uses it for commercial purposes - you dont get any profit but you sure are liable to getting fined. the logical thing to do is to tell that person to stop doing it.

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he is right about the fair use though. suggest you comment on his video that you didnt know YT would take the video down and give him a strike. get him to pin your comment so everyone knows that you didnt intentionally get the guy reprimanded by YT.
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QUOTE(Omegalul @ Sep 21 2020, 10:44 AM)
The main point is that TS made a thread where he made himself out to be some kind of victim / martyr, trying to illicit sympathy from /k
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Do remember that Jeremy illicit sympathy from his youtube fanbase first only TS open thread in /k.
J used TS art which is also mean J using gundam IPs ya.
J (who also thief) blame the youtube system for striking him, great. AMDK! rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(drajm @ Sep 21 2020, 10:57 AM)
This is mutually acquired destruction.
Should have contacted him, allow him to use the picture as the guy has good fanbase and indirectly ask him to point them to your site.
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Yup, indeed mutually acquired destruction.
From what I understand is this guy never give proper credit to TS and ignored TS message ya. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Sep 21 2020, 11:01 AM)
Probably ts would win in copyright and fair use.
Bandai would use trademark instead of copy right that another level of legal system.
Usually big company wont interfere these small drama. Cause will make big impact on sales.
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If TS artwork is fair use, then every body under the sun can use it however they want. That is literally the point of fair use.
TS can bitch and moan that his artwork were used without any credit, but that is all the extent of what he can do.


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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Sep 21 2020, 11:01 AM)
Probably ts would win in copyright and fair use.
Bandai would use trademark instead of copy right that another level of legal system.
Usually big company wont interfere these small drama. Cause will make big impact on sales.
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Sep 21 2020, 10:36 AM)
that doesnt protect ts from any allegation that ts sold the work to that youtuber for his public use.
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TS didn't sell anything yet. Just saying, TS can indeed sell his time to help the youtuber create fans art. And the youtuber can claim it was his fans art. Legally speaking.

The youtuber moneterising the fans art or not, it is the youtuber problem.
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aku tak kisah pasal duit, aku miskin tapi happy...
video dia 13 minit
tapi aku lukis 3-4 jam baru nak siap...
pastu dia ambik hak kita tak mau mintak izin...
pastu nak pulak suruh artis nih susun jari email abam famose youtuber tolong laa jgan pakai artwork saya nih..
ada masuk akai ka?
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He even challenge you say you won't spend belambak duit to fight him in court.
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QUOTE(grumpydrive @ Sep 21 2020, 10:37 AM)
He says that but still blames TS.  Just ignore lah TS. Hopefully he gets a 3rd strike baru dia nangis darah.
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i don't think he blamed TS though i skipped some parts haha
his rant is more towards Youtube's system but still got mention TS, it's his fanbase that kacau TS

i don't like his channel actually, quite obnoxious lol, block him from recommendation
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Sep 21 2020, 11:04 AM)
you can use all these words about goodwill, but simply using the artwork exposes ts to litigation risk - something which the youtuber has no right to do. the youtuber himself can get away by claiming fair use but he leaves ts holding the bag.

ts has a right in reporting it (although he would be wrong to profit from it) to protect himself. its like buying a car for private use then someone else uses it for commercial purposes - you dont get any profit but you sure are liable to getting fined. the logical thing to do is to tell that person to stop doing it.
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You honestly missing the point here.
Fan art is a fair use because its a FAN-ART where the artist doesn't claim the content as his.
By claiming that this artwork is his copy right and striking a video for abusing it, TS have basically called dibs on Pokimane and Gundam head essentially telling others that these 2 figure is his.

He himself gonna get stuck in in legal battle not because he is drawing fan-art, its because he is claiming that the content is his.
Its his own fault that he might get fucked up.

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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 10:12 AM)
To me its other picture, we all paint different picture
But at the end of the day, i support TS for strike, and maybe go for another strike for cyberbullying

Not like when TS report it automatically strike, sure the Youtube staff review it first and approve the strike
If Youtube say the strike is right then it is right, if that AMDK dont like, can go to another platform he is free to

I dont use any social media i just read lowyat if im bored, and even rarely reply here especially /k
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actually u should watch that vid to get a clearer picture
Youtube does automatically take down the reported video and serves the youtuber with notice
they have to appeal against it and it's only 3 strikes then the channel is gone, that's why they really don't want to get strike
and the youtuber has to provide all his personal details to the person/stranger that filed the strike
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QUOTE(Killy @ Sep 21 2020, 11:12 AM)
i don't think he blamed TS though i skipped some parts haha
his rant is more towards Youtube's system but still got mention TS, it's his fanbase that kacau TS

i don't like his channel actually, quite obnoxious lol, block him from recommendation
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He definitely blamed TS for being a Pokimane simp or a Quartering hater if you watched the video. That's why his fanbase attacked TS.
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QUOTE(thomasyke @ Sep 21 2020, 11:11 AM)
You're absolutely correct, if he wanna use your stuff he should be the one emailing you not the other way round, serves him right for getting striked by you.
He even challenge you say you won't spend belambak duit to fight him in court.
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You and TS might have a leg if its OC donut steel characters.
But its a fan art and thus TS himself doesn't have any rights whatsoever for this artwork.

He basically open himself to be sued by Pokimane and Bandai for claiming the character depicted in this fan-art as his with the copy right claims.
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Sep 21 2020, 11:10 AM)
TS didn't sell anything yet. Just saying,  TS can indeed sell his time to help the youtuber create fans art. And the youtuber can claim it was his fans art. Legally speaking.

The youtuber moneterising the fans art or not, it is the youtuber problem.
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yeah, but ts having to defend themselves against possible litigation (just like that youtuber is doing now with the strike) is a hassle.

since its the youtuber that took artwork willy-nilly and expose random artists to risks of being sued, i think its better for that burden of hassle to fall on the youtuber. its just a matter of unprofessionalism on the part of the youtuber.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 11:19 AM)
You honestly missing the point here.
Fan art is a fair use because its a FAN-ART where the artist doesn't claim the content as his.
By claiming that this artwork is his copy right and striking a video for abusing it, TS have basically called dibs on Pokimane and Gundam head essentially telling others that these 2 figure is his.

He himself gonna get stuck in in legal battle not because he is drawing fan-art, its because he is claiming that the content is his.
Its his own fault that he might get fucked up.
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I have no idea what legal battle you are talking about. There is absolutely no grounds for the YouTuber to sue the artist.
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Sep 21 2020, 11:23 AM)
yeah, but ts having to defend themselves against possible litigation (just like that youtuber is doing now with the strike) is a hassle.

since its the youtuber that took artwork willy-nilly and expose random artists to risks of being sued, i think its better for that burden of hassle to fall on the youtuber. its just a matter of unprofessionalism on the part of the youtuber.
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Are you stupid or retarded?

TS is fine since its a fan-art. It doesn't matter who publish it or make it popular.
No company gonna sue an artist over a simple fan art.

What fucked up TS is the fact that he himself claim this artwork as his in its entirety by claiming a copy right strike against this youtuber.
He is basically saying that this gundam head and this pokimane look alike is his, and nobody should monetize it without his permission.


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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 11:20 AM)
He definitely blamed TS for being a Pokimane simp or a Quartering hater if you watched the video. That's why his fanbase attacked TS.
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he said he thought it was a Pokimane simp when he saw the video got struck down before he checked who it was, after that he found it was an artist
well, his fanbase probably doesn't care i suppose
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 11:26 AM)
I have no idea what legal battle you are talking about. There is absolutely no grounds for the YouTuber to sue the artist.
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When the artist used the Youtube system to strike down the channel, it is under the US DMCA law.

If the channel owner dispute it, the artist would need to file a suit and bring this to court.

Looking at the so called art, it is clear as day it is under fair use unless TS claims that he is the owner of Pokimane, Gundam, ItsAGundam IP, which he does not.
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 11:26 AM)
I have no idea what legal battle you are talking about. There is absolutely no grounds for the YouTuber to sue the artist.
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There is precedent for this, and the record would side with this youtuber. Look up H3H3 vs Matt Hoss.
What doesn't have a ground is TS claim of this artwork, which is a fan-art depicting of other people IPs.

Copyright means exclusive use to the work, and I am 100% sure TS doesn't exclusively own pokimane or gundam.

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QUOTE(Killy @ Sep 21 2020, 11:20 AM)
actually u should watch that vid to get a clearer picture
Youtube does automatically take down the reported video and serves the youtuber with notice
they have to appeal against it and it's only 3 strikes then the channel is gone, that's why they really don't want to get strike
and the youtuber has to provide all his personal details to the person/stranger that filed the strike
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Then that AMDK should reach out to TS himself and asked how to resolve it and not make a whole load video complain this and that
Or he expects TS to reach out AMDK himself?
Bottom line, AMDK using Youtube, if he doesnt like, go to other platforms

TS should ask for compensation as well and show him the evidence he got harassed by his fanbase, compensation in cold hard CASH
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 11:31 AM)
Then that AMDK should reach out to TS himself and asked how to resolve it and not make a whole load video complain this and that
Or he expects TS to reach out AMDK himself?
Bottom line, AMDK using Youtube, if he doesnt like, go to other platforms

TS should ask for compensation as well and show him the evidence he got harassed by his fanbase, compensation in cold hard CASH
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Just stop.

You need to stop defending TS and properly advising him to stop this shit.
Yeah, TS can bitch and moan, but striking people for it?
TS doesn't have any legal ground for it in the first fucking place. Its a fan art, he himself doesn't own the art he is striking for. doh.gif

This is fucking embarrassing.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 11:30 AM)
There is precedent for this, and the record would side with this youtuber. Look up H3H3 vs Matt Hoss.
What doesn't have a ground is TS claim of this artwork, which is a fan-art depicting of other people IPs.

Copyright means exclusive use to the work, and I am 100% sure TS doesn't exclusively own pokimane or gundam.
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Well any one of them will sue back ts without permission. Gg
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 11:31 AM)
Then that AMDK should reach out to TS himself and asked how to resolve it and not make a whole load video complain this and that
Or he expects TS to reach out AMDK himself?
Bottom line, AMDK using Youtube, if he doesnt like, go to other platforms

TS should ask for compensation as well and show him the evidence he got harassed by his fanbase, compensation in cold hard CASH
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he doesn't have to really
he's a drama youtuber so just makes more videos blowing things up lol
i doubt it will be worth TS time and money to ask for compensation but he can try
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at this point his fanbase wont back down with anything. the only way is just to mute all ur socmed, dont retaliate. like anything online, it will blow away.

but make sure ur legalities on point tho

gl ts
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TS, write a proper article with screenshots as evidence, especially regarding the harassment and post on socmed. Let the keyboard warriors and tentera bawang take care of the rest.

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That is legit hilarious

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he doesn't have to really
he's a drama youtuber so just makes more videos blowing things up lol
i doubt it will be worth TS time and money to ask for compensation but he can try
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then TS just wait lor
if AMDK dont want to resolve then just leave it
if want to resolve he will contact TS himself

Want to sue? Good luck he waste money only TS wont waste any single cent, if he can hold the harassment, just time only to Report all the spammer in Deviantart
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 12:08 PM)
If TS artwork is fair use, then every body under the sun can use it however they want. That is literally the point of fair use.
TS can bitch and moan that his artwork were used without any credit, but that is all the extent of what he can do.
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You should reread whole cr and fairuse in youtube before protect mode.

J vs ts
Is not related to ts vs bandai

J use ts art without permision.
Legal team will pin on this point.

But most ppl will use ts make fanart of bandai as defend.
Back to it has j ask permission at 1st?
Even keemstar will ask for permission even fanart level.

You said it like its a fanart so he has no right.

Jeremy main source of income is drama in youtube.

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Bandai wont go after ts.
Set up a legal team for small fish.
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Using the "same reason" doh.gif
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 11:31 AM)
Then that AMDK should reach out to TS himself and asked how to resolve it and not make a whole load video complain this and that
Or he expects TS to reach out AMDK himself?
Bottom line, AMDK using Youtube, if he doesnt like, go to other platforms

TS should ask for compensation as well and show him the evidence he got harassed by his fanbase, compensation in cold hard CASH
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It is user fair use, TS does no owns the IP for Pokimane, Gundam or ItsAGundam, striking someone down means the guy is violating TS is claiming ownership of all those IP which he clearly does not.

TS can get sued for abusing the Youtube copyright claim system and can be prosecuted under DMCA and US IP law as well since he is claiming ownership of IP that is not his.

Worst case is if someone goes to Bandai about TS monetizing their Gundam IP, he could get a cease and desist letter from Gundam and lose whatever channel like Twitter, Instagram, DeviantArt that he is using to promote his work.

TheQuartering would be absolutely fine and at most he just pay his lawyer to handle the case. Yes, he does have a lawyer and has proven to know his thing about fair use repeatedly in the past.
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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Sep 21 2020, 11:29 AM)
When the artist used the Youtube system to strike down the channel, it is under the US DMCA law.

If the channel owner dispute it, the artist would need to file a suit and bring this to court.

Looking at the so called art, it is clear as day it is under fair use unless TS claims that he is the owner of Pokimane, Gundam, ItsAGundam IP, which he does not.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 11:30 AM)
There is precedent for this, and the record would side with this youtuber. Look up H3H3 vs Matt Hoss.
What doesn't have a ground is TS claim of this artwork, which is a fan-art depicting of other people IPs.

Copyright means exclusive use to the work, and I am 100% sure TS doesn't exclusively own pokimane or gundam.
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The Youtuber doesn't have permission from Pokimane and Gundam either. Heck, I'm sure he doesn't have permission all those Nintendo in the background either. Let him try to sue and let's see what Gundam, Pokimane and Nintendo think of him using their copyright in his video without their permission. Who do you think that those companies would rather go after, an unknown artist in a small foreign country, or a Youtuber making money of spreading hate using their IP?

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Already got this stupid guy in here posting the same thing. Everything also want to drag in politik. Dasar otak udang
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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Sep 21 2020, 11:39 AM)
You should reread whole cr and fairuse in youtube before protect mode.

J vs ts
Is not related to ts vs bandai

J use ts art without permision.
Legal team will pin on this point.

But most ppl will use ts make fanart of bandai as defend.
Back to it has j ask permission at 1st?
Even keemstar will ask for permission even fanart level.

You said it like its a fanart so he has no right.

Jeremy main source of income is drama in youtube.
Bandai wont go after ts.
Set up a legal team for small fish.
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Yes, this is a fan-art depicting other people IPs.
He have zero rights to monetize or claiming this artwork as his.

Yes, Keemstar is a nice dude for asking for permission in the first place.
He doesn't have to, but its nice of him to do so.

Bandai will not go after TS if he simply just bitch and moan that he wasn't credited on the creation of said fan-art.
But instead he went for a copy right strike, essentially claiming that this artwork in its entire is his and his alone.
That the own the artwork and the characters depicted in said artwork.

Would Bandai let some no name artist claim rights of their own IP? Fuck no.
Which is why I am advising TS, and those who is supporting him to drop this shit and settle it quietly.
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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Sep 21 2020, 11:42 AM)
It is user fair use, TS does no owns the IP for Pokimane, Gundam or ItsAGundam, striking someone down means the guy is violating TS is claiming ownership of all those IP which he clearly does not.

TS can get sued for abusing the Youtube copyright claim system and can be prosecuted under DMCA and US IP law as well since he is claiming ownership of IP that is not his.

Worst case is if someone goes to Bandai about TS monetizing their Gundam IP, he could get a cease and desist letter from Gundam and lose whatever channel like Twitter, Instagram, DeviantArt that he is using to promote his work.

TheQuartering would be absolutely fine and at most he just pay his lawyer to handle the case. Yes, he does have a lawyer and has proven to know his thing about fair use repeatedly in the past.
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this whole drama could have been easily avoided if the youtuber gave some credit to the original author in their video. a simple "link in the description for fan art" would have suffice

but shit hits the fan, and obviously youtubers who loves drama will take advantage of the situation for that sweet sweet view count
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 11:43 AM)
The Youtuber doesn't have permission from Pokimane and Gundam either. Heck, I'm sure he doesn't have permission all those Nintendo in the background either. Let him try to sue and let's see what Gundam,  Pokimane and Nintendo think of him using their copyright in his video without their permission. Who do you think that those companies would rather go after, an unknown artist in a small foreign country, or a Youtuber making money of spreading hate using their IP?
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A commentary video fall under fair right.
A fan art fall under fair right.
This youtuber claimed that his commentary what makes the video, and not those elements in it. There is legal precedent for this.

This youtuber never claimed that Pokimane, Nintendo, or Gundam is his.
But the same thing can't be said for TS. By claiming copy right strike TS essentially claiming that he have the legals right for the IPs depicted in his artwork.

TS is treading a dangerous line, and all these k'tards that is siding with him is pushing him further towards the edge.
Stop giving him bad advice for fuck sake.
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Lmao /k is officially designated as Malaysian 4chan army

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nth much la... my music is being used by mat salleh youtuber also
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nth much la... my music is being used by mat salleh youtuber also
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 11:43 AM)
The Youtuber doesn't have permission from Pokimane and Gundam either. Heck, I'm sure he doesn't have permission all those Nintendo in the background either. Let him try to sue and let's see what Gundam,  Pokimane and Nintendo think of him using their copyright in his video without their permission. Who do you think that those companies would rather go after, an unknown artist in a small foreign country, or a Youtuber making money of spreading hate using their IP?
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Those are officially licensed product from the company, what rights he needs to show them off? That is like saying I can't take a picture of my PS, Xbox and television while making a video for my Youtube channel.

Always understand what us fair use, if the work that he produced is transformative, parody, satire and have enough content added on top, it is considered to be fair use. He profit from is his commentary on political/Youtube issues, even if he uses TS drawings, which is also under fair use, his video will still be considered as an original work.

Just like you are allowed to remix Fur Elise and put it up for sale on iTunes even though you are not the original composer of Fur Elise.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 11:27 AM)
Are you stupid or retarded?

TS is fine since its a fan-art. It doesn't matter who publish it or make it popular.
No company gonna sue an artist over a simple fan art.

What fucked up TS is the fact that he himself claim this artwork as his in its entirety by claiming a copy right strike against this youtuber.
He is basically saying that this gundam head and this pokimane look alike is his, and nobody should monetize it without his permission.
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are you sure you're following the conversation, mate?

we're not talking about being sued for doing fanart, we're talking about the risk of being litigated for commercialising his fanart.

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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Sep 21 2020, 11:48 AM)
I believe that AMDK will reach out to TS to resolve and TS can always go ask MCMC for advice
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TS should have reached out and try to talk with TheQuartering before he goes for the nuclear option, if TheQuartering is being unreasonable then only go for copyright strike.

Considering the image use, TS can't even do ca copyright claim because TS does not own the IP at all.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 12:49 PM)
A commentary video fall under fair right.
A fan art fall under fair right.
This youtuber claimed that his commentary what makes the video, and not those elements in it. There is legal precedent for this.

This youtuber never claimed that Pokimane, Nintendo, or Gundam is his.
But the same thing can't be said for TS. By claiming copy right strike TS essentially claiming that he have the legals right for the IPs depicted in his artwork.

TS is treading a dangerous line, and all these k'tards that is siding with him is pushing him further towards the edge.
Stop giving him bad advice for fuck sake.
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You aint far from push ts to oblivion either lol.

You should know.
Thats is his fanart for maybe display his art skill.

But quatering is the one using the fanart for monetize his video lol.

You die die said he selling the art.
Thats a fan art for itsagundum virtualyoutuber character.
Has nothing to do with bandai at all.


In cc summon k lawyer for review this case.

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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 11:49 AM)
A commentary video fall under fair right.
A fan art fall under fair right.
This youtuber claimed that his commentary what makes the video, and not those elements in it. There is legal precedent for this.

This youtuber never claimed that Pokimane, Nintendo, or Gundam is his.
But the same thing can't be said for TS. By claiming copy right strike TS essentially claiming that he have the legals right for the IPs depicted in his artwork.

TS is treading a dangerous line, and all these k'tards that is siding with him is pushing him further towards the edge.
Stop giving him bad advice for fuck sake.
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Everything you said is irrelevant. The case you mentioned has a youtuber suing another YouTube directly which is very different from a copyright strike from YouTube. Even if he sued TS, no courts in the world can force YouTube to remove the strike.

Or are you saying that he can sue TS for copyright he doesn't own? Cause the only way he can even build a case against TS is that he claims that he owns copyright to Pokimane and Gundam.

Maybe you are the one giving bad advice to the Youtuber for fuck sake.
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QUOTE(Stirmling @ Sep 21 2020, 11:53 AM)
i notice some big youtubers also used music that's in an official game lol.
example: H3H3 literally used Maplestory's Erev training ground BGM in one of their video, lmao! laugh.gif
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It is possible to use music owned by other game company if they are given the permission to do so.
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 11:59 AM)
Everything you said is irrelevant. The case you mentioned has a youtuber suing another YouTube directly which is very different from a copyright strike from YouTube. Even if he sued TS, no courts in the world can force YouTube to remove the strike.

Or are you saying that he can sue TS for copyright he doesn't own? Cause the only way he can even build a case against TS is that he claims that he owns copyright to Pokimane and Gundam.

Maybe you are the one giving bad advice to the Youtuber for fuck sake.
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No, he just needs to claim copyright to his own commentary video because TS took down his video for an art that is covered under fair use.
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Sep 21 2020, 11:55 AM)
are you sure you're following the conversation, mate?

we're not talking about being sued for doing fanart, we're talking about the risk of being litigated for commercialising his fanart.
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ComicCon in 2015 I think have a panel revolving around this fan-art, artist alley and suff.
Its basically boil down to no, these fan-art is illegal and selling them on the con itself is super illegal.

But its still generally safe to do these fan-art and selling it in a small quantity because of a mutual understanding between the community and the company.
As long as neither of them cross the line everybody is happy doing their own thing.

This is the line that TS have crossed. The risk of getting sued went from nonexistent, to I-hope-to-god-they-doesn't-do-shit.
TS need to quit while its still cold, quickly.



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So once kena strike the only way to remove the strike is to contest and sue right?

So sorry TS. Quartering is going to sue you until
you remove the strike.

Most likely he will win.

Awaiting some awesome lawyer ytb to analyse the case.
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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Sep 21 2020, 11:57 AM)
TS should have reached out and try to talk with TheQuartering before he goes for the nuclear option, if TheQuartering is being unreasonable then only go for copyright strike.

Considering the image use, TS can't even do ca copyright claim because TS does not own the IP at all.
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I guess it's a debatable area but I believe that in general, the artist will always own the art even if they don't own the IP cause if the artist doesn't own the art, does that mean that the IP owners can use fan arts for profit however they like?
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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Sep 21 2020, 11:57 AM)
TS should have reached out and try to talk with TheQuartering before he goes for the nuclear option, if TheQuartering is being unreasonable then only go for copyright strike.

Considering the image use, TS can't even do ca copyright claim because TS does not own the IP at all.
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TS already mentioned that he tagged him on Twitter. hmm.gif

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I taggeg him on my twitter post about it since i couldn't dm his twitter.. but he no replay
so next day i report laaa...
i thought he could be civilize and ask me to retract back the claim...
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 11:59 AM)
Everything you said is irrelevant. The case you mentioned has a youtuber suing another YouTube directly which is very different from a copyright strike from YouTube. Even if he sued TS, no courts in the world can force YouTube to remove the strike.

Or are you saying that he can sue TS for copyright he doesn't own? Cause the only way he can even build a case against TS is that he claims that he owns copyright to Pokimane and Gundam.

Maybe you are the one giving bad advice to the Youtuber for fuck sake.
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Are you stupid?

He doesn't sue TS for copyright, he is suing TS for wrongfully taking down his vid under false copy right claim.
That is the ground that H3H3 used to sue Matt where Matt took down H3H3 video under copy right claim which ended up being wrong.
H3H3 never claimed the material they used in their vid is theirs at all.


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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Sep 21 2020, 12:02 PM)
No, he just needs to claim copyright to his own commentary video because TS took down his video for an art that is covered under fair use.
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So, on what grounds does he have to sue TS when what he really needed to do is appeal to YouTube?

QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 12:05 PM)
Are you stupid?

He doesn't sue TS for copyright, he is suing TS for wrongfully taking down his vid under false copy right claim.
That is the ground that H3H3 used to sue Matt where Matt took down H3H3 video under copy right claim which ended up being wrong.
H3H3 never claimed the material they used in their vid is theirs at all.
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It's Youtube that took down his video. Are you so stupid that you are seriously going to argue that TS has power to instruct YouTube to take down videos?

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chill bro, and stop promoting his channel.
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I believe that AMDK will reach out to TS to resolve and TS can always go ask MCMC for advice
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 01:05 PM)
Are you stupid?

He doesn't sue TS for copyright, he is suing TS for wrongfully taking down his vid under false copy right claim.
That is the ground that H3H3 used to sue Matt where Matt took down H3H3 video under copy right claim which ended up being wrong.
H3H3 never claimed the material they used in their vid is theirs at all.
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 01:05 PM)
So, on what grounds does he have to sue TS when what he really needed to do is appeal to YouTube?
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I saw the qq is base on itsagundam n pokeimane fanart strike.

Itsagundum is not under bandai.
He just a vtuber.

So blackmambo you should revise your defend. Cause this has nothing to do with gundam bandai at all lol.

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[quote=RallyNight,Sep 21 2020, 11:59 AM]
You aint far from push ts to oblivion either lol.

You should know.
Thats is his fanart for maybe display his art skill.

But quatering is the one using the fanart for monetize his video lol.

You die die said he selling the art.
Thats a fan art for itsagundum virtualyoutuber character.
Has nothing to do with bandai at all.
Im cc summon k lawyer for review this case.
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That's not how it works in usa
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 12:04 PM)
I guess it's a debatable area but I believe that in general, the artist will always own the art even if they don't own the IP cause if the artist doesn't own the art, does that mean that the IP owners can use fan arts for profit however they like?
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Fan art are allowed as long as it is not monetized unless the IP owner deemed it damaging to their IP, the same goes on the opposite as well when the IP owner want to use the fan art. If it is for profit, IP owner usually ask for a commissioned work because no one wants bad publicity and it is a good way to maintain a good relationship with the community.
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TS not happy with the harassment and toxic comments. but decided to open a topic in /k... very smart....

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I think u should comment in his video 1st , what if he didn't see ur tag on twitter?
Life is hard during covid, kasi chance.

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TS already mentioned that he tagged him on Twitter. hmm.gif
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The time for reply is usually 3-5 working days, also time zone.

He can always follow up if he did not get reply after 1 or 2 days, to copyright strike people just because he does not get immediate reply is just crazy.
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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Sep 21 2020, 12:16 PM)
Fan art are allowed as long as it is not monetized unless the IP owner deemed it damaging to their IP, the same goes on the opposite as well when the IP owner want to use the fan art. If it is for profit, IP owner usually ask for a commissioned work because no one wants bad publicity and it is a good way to maintain a good relationship with the community.
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In the end, if it's a question of whether the artist owns the art, I would have to say yes he does. If it's a question of whether he can claim copystrike for it, that's up to YouTube, not the courts.
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 12:05 PM)
So, on what grounds does he have to sue TS when what he really needed to do is appeal to YouTube?
It's Youtube that took down his video. Are you so stupid that you are seriously going to argue that TS has power to instruct YouTube to take down videos?
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Because his income were effected by TS retarded action? His video got taken down, and his channel is on the risk of getting terminated?
'TS caused a monetary damage to my income with his retarded copy right claim etc' something like that.

Also YouTube is 100% on the copy right claim side, and the burden of proof to prove other wise is on the youtuber who got striked.
It is an automatic process (except on the more notable channel where it was manually reviewed).
Which is why every single fucking creator out there shat on youtube for this.



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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Sep 21 2020, 01:16 PM)
Fan art are allowed as long as it is not monetized unless the IP owner deemed it damaging to their IP, the same goes on the opposite as well when the IP owner want to use the fan art. If it is for profit, IP owner usually ask for a commissioned work because no one wants bad publicity and it is a good way to maintain a good relationship with the community.
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The 1 thing
We all were wrong is:

Has nothing to do with bandai.

The art is base on pokemane and itsagundum youtuber.

We all thought is gundum itself.

Lol.

Thats another realm.

Youtube did the review on striking take down.
Ts can claim then jeremy get yellow stop getting monenitize only.
But youtube responsible for taking down the video.

I dont believe jeremy cause he had many pass shady drama that revolt around him for harassing.

If jeremy is innocent he can appeal lol.
Nobody is safe from strike.
Ts is giving him the chance get big.

Now its upto itsagundum defend ts or not cause he also a drama channel and the ip belong to him.

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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 12:21 PM)
In the end, if it's a question of whether the artist owns the art, I would have to say yes he does. If it's a question of whether he can claim copystrike for it, that's up to YouTube, not the courts.
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Youtube only provide the tools to make the claim, they do not uphold or dismiss the claim. You make a claim they take it down, that is all.

The copyright claim can be disputed by the channel owner which by then the claimer will have to file a case in court or release the claim.


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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 12:21 PM)
Because his income were effected by TS retarded action? His video got taken down, and his channel is on the risk of getting terminated?
'TS caused a monetary damage to my income with his retarded copy right claim etc' something like that.

Also YouTube is 100% on the copy right claim side, and the burden of proof to prove other wise is on the youtuber who got striked.
It is an automatic process (except on the more notable channel where it was manually reviewed).
Which is why every single fucking creator out there shat on youtube for this.
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Are you going to get your money back if you sued TS? The courts will tell you to take it up with YouTube and don't bother them with your retarded claim. laugh.gif\

I don't even know why you arguing fair use when the YouTuber knows that he shouldn't use fan art without permission.

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Ts...hold your ground. Dont let them bully you. If malaysian netizen know about thus...i trust many will defend you. If you are wrong...youtube would not delete his video...dont worry
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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Sep 21 2020, 12:24 PM)
Youtube only provide the tools to make the claim, they do not uphold or dismiss the claim. You make a claim they take it down, that is all.

The copyright claim can be disputed by the channel owner which by then the claimer will have to file a case in court or release the claim.
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I'm pretty sure that you can dispute a claim on YouTube without going to court. The only reason for going to court is just to harrass the other person.
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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Sep 21 2020, 12:22 PM)
The 1 thing
We all were wrong is:

Has nothing to do with bandai.

The art is base on pokemane and itsagundum youtuber.

We all thought is gundum itself.

Lol.

Thats another realm.

Youtube did the review on striking take down.
Ts can claim then jeremy get yellow stop getting monenitize only.
But youtube responsible for taking down the video.

I dont believe jeremy cause he had many pass shady drama that revolt around him for harassing.

If jeremy is innocent he can appeal lol.
Nobody is safe from strike.
Ts is giving him the chance get big.

Now its upto itsagundum defend ts or not cause he also a drama channel and the ip below to him.
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Youtube will take down the video regardless if there is a copyright claim on it, that is why they are given the safe harbor status by the government. And believe me when I say he will be disputing the claim especially when it is clear cut case like this, he does have a lawyer that advise him on this kind of thing.

What happened in the past has no relation to this claim and even that was debatable.
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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Sep 21 2020, 12:22 PM)
The 1 thing
We all were wrong is:

Has nothing to do with bandai.

The art is base on pokemane and itsagundum youtuber.

We all thought is gundum itself.

Lol.

Thats another realm.

Youtube did the review on striking take down.
Ts can claim then jeremy get yellow stop getting monenitize only.
But youtube responsible for taking down the video.

I dont believe jeremy cause he had many pass shady drama that revolt around him for harassing.

If jeremy is innocent he can appeal lol.
Nobody is safe from strike.
Ts is giving him the chance get big.

Now its upto itsagundum defend ts or not cause he also a drama channel and the ip below to him.
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It have everything do to Bandai. TS is claiming that the depiction of a gundam head is his.
Even ItsAGundam himself never claimed copyright to his mascot, or even his channel name.
Said Gundam head is a copyrighted materials, and any similarity to its is considered as plagiarism.

The fact that you said the art is 'based' on certain likeness or IP is by itself an admission that its a plagiarism under the protection of fan-art.

Youtube rarely does any human review of a strike, they only did it for selective channel. It is almost always automatic.


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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 12:26 PM)
I'm pretty sure that you can dispute a claim on YouTube without going to court. The only reason for going to court is just to harrass the other person.
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That's what he said

Ts copy strike utuber
Utuber fight the claim

If able to prove, utuber can go on a normal

Then TS need go court to further the claim, if not the claim is null and voided
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 12:26 PM)
I'm pretty sure that you can dispute a claim on YouTube without going to court. The only reason for going to court is just to harrass the other person.
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The claimer can either release the claim if they don't want to file a case or let the claim expires, either way TS gets nothing except notoriety for being a false copyright claimer.

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The claimer can either release the claim if they don't want to file a case or let the claim expires, either way TS gets nothing by notoriety for being a false copyright claimer.
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There is nothing wrong with TS making a copyright claim cause like I said, the artist owns the art. If YouTube has a different view, then they need to change their terms and condition.
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Lol...is it really?
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I read the whole tered

Only very few user bring out the point that ts cancel that YouTuber because of righties politics

Might be him might be not, I'm just guessing

Edit: post #41
Edit 2: and post #44

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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 12:24 PM)
Are you going to get your money back if you sued TS? The courts will tell you to take it up with YouTube and don't bother them with your retarded claim. laugh.gif\

I don't even know why you arguing fair use when the YouTuber knows that he shouldn't use fan art without permission.
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Do you understand what civil suit is?

Yes, it is generally nice to ask for a permission, but that's it.

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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 12:34 PM)
There is nothing wrong with TS making a copyright claim cause like I said, the artist owns the art. If YouTube has a different view, then they need to change their terms and condition.
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Which again as I said before, Youtube does not uphold or dismiss copyright claims, they only provide the tools to make the claim. It is the court that determines who owns the copyright.
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 12:34 PM)
There is nothing wrong with TS making a copyright claim cause like I said, the artist owns the art. If YouTube has a different view, then they need to change their terms and condition.
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I am a fucking artist myself, and like every single artist out there that have a slight incline into these legal bs, I vehemently disagree with you.

There is a reason why we called the artwork that depict other people IPs as 'fan-art'. Not for the heck of it, its to protect ourself from any predatory legal hounds. doh.gif


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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Sep 21 2020, 12:36 PM)
Which again as I said before, Youtube does not uphold or dismiss copyright claims, they only provide the tools to make the claim. It is the court that determines who owns the copyright.
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I feel like it's arguing semantics at this point. Does making a copyright claim on YouTube means that TS claiming copyright for everything in the art? Or maybe just for one copyright for the art which he rightfully owns as the artist? Is the Youtuber seriously going to claim that TS don't have at least that right?
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 01:30 PM)
It have everything do to Bandai. TS is claiming that the depiction of a gundam head is his.
Even ItsAGundam himself never claimed copyright to his mascot, or even his channel name.
Said Gundam head is a copyrighted materials, and any similarity to its is considered as plagiarism.

The fact that you said the art is 'based' on certain likeness or IP is by itself an admission that its a plagiarism under the protection of fan-art.

Youtube rarely does any human review of a strike, they only did it for selective channel. It is almost always automatic.
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Now is he says she said. Wait youtube legal now.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 12:40 PM)
I am a fucking artist myself, and like every single artist out there that have a slight incline into these legal bs, I vehemently disagree with you.

There is a reason why we called the artwork that depict other people IPs as 'fan-art'. Not for the heck of it, its to protect ourself from any predatory legal hounds.  doh.gif
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So, do you have legal claim to all fan art using your IP? Means the artist have to let you use their art however you want? If not, then you are contradicting yourself.

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account bodo bangang sapa is this

involving politics pulak tu, aih bodonya doh.gif
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So, do you have legal claim to all fan art using your IP? Means the artist have to let you use their art however you want? If not, then you are contradicting yourself.
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Yes, I actually have legal claim to all my OC donut steel that I created by myself, and for myself.
This happen automatically under common copy right law, I don't even have to file it for this rights to be granted unto me and my creation.


Like these company, I can exercise my legal rights, but I am sure as hell gonna look like a massive cunt for doing it.
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Ts...hold your ground. Dont let them bully you. If malaysian netizen know about thus...i trust many will defend you. If you are wrong...youtube would not delete his video...dont worry
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Bullshit, don't put under the name from Malaysia.

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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 12:48 PM)
Yes, I actually have legal claim to all my OC donut steel that I created by myself, and for myself.
This happen automatically under common copy right law, I don't even have to file it for this rights to be granted unto me and my creation.
Like these company, I can exercise my legal rights, but I am sure as hell gonna look like a massive cunt for doing it.
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You own the copyright to your IP but do you own the copyright for the fan art? When I say owning the copyright, I mean that you can put the fan art on a t-shirt and sell it legally. So do you own the copyright for the fan art to do that or not?

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I taggeg him on my twitter post about it since i couldn't dm his twitter.. but he no replay
so next day i report laaa...
i thought he could be civilize and ask me to retract back the claim...
but instead he make new video  sad.gif
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go after him dude.

lay it out, it's not OK to steal other peoples work..

Well done, stick up for yourself and don't back down from any cyber bullies.
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Oh fucking god, I just watched TS posted vid by the youtuber who he strike.
I didn't watch it initially because I honestly doesn't care much about the context and focused more on the strike abuse.

Its even fucking worse than I thought.
The youtuber didn't use TS artwork because it is TS artwork.
The youtuber used it because it is within the context of his video unrelated to said artwork.

This youtuber is making a commentary of another youtuber who used TS artwork, and said artwork appeared in a brief intro.

Its not OC DONUT STEAL artwork too, its a fanart of its'Agundam and PokiMane.
IF were talking about copyrights shit, TS doesn't even have a leg to stand on since its a fucking fan art.
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Yup, TS itself is not in the clear.

I noticed this after I commented earlier but too lazy to reply more.

Goodluck TS.
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 12:51 PM)
You own the copyright to your IP but do you own the copyright to the fan art? If you own the copyright, then you can put the fan art on a t-shirt and sell it legally. So do you own the copyright for the fan art to do that or not?
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Yes, I actually do own any fan art that depict my creation, or a likeness to said creation (depend on how big of a cunt I am).

Does this make it clear?
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Sep 21 2020, 12:51 PM)
go after him dude.

lay it out, it's not OK to steal other peoples work..

Well done, stick up for yourself and don't back down from any cyber bullies.
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Is not gonna work for malaysia, u back him is making worse. Don't mess the quartering that he knows how to tackle who's right and wrong. Don't be fool by yourself. If quartering wins then ts is the biggest loser for using poki and gundam youtuber without permission from the beginning.

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TS already expose himself by selling his work using IP created by others. Shooting own feet
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Yes, I actually do own any fan art that depict my creation, or a likeness to said creation (depend on how big of a cunt I am).

Does this make it clear?
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Then u r making yourself same thing happen to quartering
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copystrike all his vid

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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:36 AM)
This mat salleh youtuber use my artwork without permission... I copyright strike him and the video got deleted...
now he angry and make video about it in retaliation
because of this video all my social media kena flamed already by his fans
His toxic fans really effect my mental health
I couldn't sleep, lost my appetite and haven't eaten anything since 6am yesterday sad.gif


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Report to YouTube to get his channel suspended or banned. Has happened before.
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Then u r making yourself same thing happen to quartering
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How exactly?
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 12:56 PM)
Yes, I actually do own any fan art that depict my creation, or a likeness to said creation (depend on how big of a cunt I am).

Does this make it clear?
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Yes, it makes it clear that you are a hypocrite that claims fair use while claiming full ownership of copyright . laugh.gif
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Then u r making yourself same thing happen to quartering
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not really, because if he merely comment on it as part of commentary channel, he can site fair use

"for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
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bodo mana jual negara ni

account bodo bangang sapa is this

involving politics pulak tu, aih bodonya  doh.gif
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QUOTE(cyhborg @ Sep 21 2020, 01:02 PM)
not really, because if he merely comment on it as part of commentary channel, he can site fair use

"for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
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parody and derivative art are also fair use but some hypocrite want to use the copyright argument. whistling.gif
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not really, because if he merely comment on it as part of commentary channel, he can site fair use

"for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
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How exactly?
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that you are a hypocrite that claims fair use while claiming full ownership of copyright. Same goes with ts typical mindset.

If any big copyrights company saw your work and most ip character is belong to them. Gg that's why don't make viral news and spread in twitter and YouTube. Settle own problem in dm why making big fuss. Both of them miscommunication and different timezone according they said but ts tak syiok Coz quartering did not respond to him back on time. Aiyooo

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From what I read through the twitter comments.

TS did indeed tried to reached out to the youtuber before striking his videos.

This wasn't shared by TS personally but by his close circles.

Not sure about the truth to it.

Strike this Mat Salleh's Youtube DOWN for being so arrogant
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Yes, it makes it clear that you are a hypocrite that claims fair use while claiming full ownership of copyright . laugh.gif
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What in the actual fuck are you babbling about here?
All I did is answer your question regarding copy right law, and the extent of my rights regarding my creation.

Never once did I allude that I ever exercise said rights.
I have people blatantly ripped out my asset, but I am fine with that since its for anon profit modding job of my own games.

There is differences from being a massive cunt and abuse this rights and simply knowing it and exercising it accordingly.
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bodo mana jual negara ni

account bodo bangang sapa is this

involving politics pulak tu, aih bodonya  doh.gif
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You see that politics thingy you know it's jbcoder lol.
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parody and derivative art are also fair use but some hypocrite want to use the copyright argument.  whistling.gif
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if TS makes parody and derivative art, that means he won't get sued by the original IP holder, but at the same time he can't claim ownership of it either when others comment on it as part of fair use

it goes both ways
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Yes, it makes it clear that you are a hypocrite that claims fair use while claiming full ownership of copyright . laugh.gif
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The f does this makes anyone hypocrite?

Having the rights to it is different than being a massive cunt and wielding it to slap everyone under the sun down.
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 01:05 PM)
parody and derivative art are also fair use but some hypocrite want to use the copyright argument.  whistling.gif
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Literally know nothing about copy right law and what it entails and yet here you are yapping out a useless fart.

TS IS FINE FOR DOING THE FAN ART, ITS FUCKING FAIR USE.
WHAT ISN'T FINE IS MAKING COPY RIGHT CLAIM ON SAID FAN ART.

Get this shit drilled inside you sack of shit you called brain.
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QUOTE(veiven @ Sep 21 2020, 01:07 PM)
From what I read through the twitter comments.

TS did indeed tried to reached out to the youtuber before striking his videos.

This wasn't shared by TS personally but by his close circles.

Not sure about the truth to it.

Strike this Mat Salleh's Youtube DOWN for being so arrogant
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Report him again for harassment. He hasn't gotten in touch with TS to clarify things but instead put up another video naming TS and resulting in him being harassed. Fukken trash rants few minutes about TS then says oh don't blame him and then proceeds to rant about TS again. Obviously trying to rile up his fanbase against him.
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QUOTE(cyhborg @ Sep 21 2020, 01:08 PM)
if TS makes parody and derivative art, that means he won't get sued by the original IP holder, but at the same time he can't claim ownership of it either when others comment on it as part of fair use

it goes both ways
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Well, my opinion is different in that TS can own the art but not profit from it under fair use. In the same vein, he can stop other people like this YouTuber from profiting from it too by using the copyright strike.

If this YouTuber wants to claim fair use, then the artist has fair use too. If he wants to claim copyright, then he doesn't have the right to use the art either. So which is it?
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QUOTE(bottomfrag @ Sep 21 2020, 01:11 PM)
Report him again for harassment. He hasn't gotten in touch with TS to clarify things but instead put up another video naming TS and resulting in him being harassed. Fukken trash rants few minutes about TS then says oh don't blame him and then proceeds to rant about TS again. Obviously trying to rile up his fanbase against him.
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He does not have to response to TS anymore, once he dispute the claim, it is up to TS whether he wants to file a case in court or release the claim or let the claim expires naturally.

If TS genuinely wants to resolve this, he should be the one contacting TheQuartering, explains that all this is just a misunderstanding, and release the claim.
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QUOTE(cyhborg @ Sep 21 2020, 01:08 PM)
if TS makes parody and derivative art, that means he won't get sued by the original IP holder, but at the same time he can't claim ownership of it either when others comment on it as part of fair use

it goes both ways
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Genuine question. By "comment on it", do you mean people make reference to the artwork and critique it or something like that? Cos from what I watched in the video, the guy claims his editor put it in and he wasn't aware of it.


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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 01:13 PM)
Well, my opinion is different in that TS can own the art but not profit from it under fair use. In the same vein, he can stop other people like this YouTuber from profiting from it too by using the copyright strike.

If this YouTuber wants to claim fair use, then the artist has fair use too. If he wants to claim copyright, then he doesn't have the right to use the art either. So which is it?
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This is why I called you retarded.
You have ZERO fucking clue on what copy right claim is. ranting.gif

Stop yapping and start doing your own research for fuck sake.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 01:11 PM)
Literally know nothing about copy right law and what it entails and yet here you are yapping out a useless fart.

TS IS FINE FOR DOING THE FAN ART, ITS FUCKING FAIR USE.
WHAT ISN'T FINE IS MAKING COPY RIGHT CLAIM ON SAID FAN ART.

Get this shit drilled inside you sack of shit you called brain.
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You are the one that need to drill it into your head that that's up to YouTube not the law. So much shit in your head that you think a copyright claim in YouTube is the same as the real world. laugh.gif

To be fair, even if the YouTuber doesn't deserved a copyright strike from the artist, he deserved one from all the copyright holders. YouTube isn't going to remove his strike either way. Maybe even add more strike after combing through his channel. rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(veiven @ Sep 21 2020, 01:07 PM)
From what I read through the twitter comments.

TS did indeed tried to reached out to the youtuber before striking his videos.

This wasn't shared by TS personally but by his close circles.

Not sure about the truth to it.

Strike this Mat Salleh's Youtube DOWN for being so arrogant
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Exactly!! instead of admitting he was wrong to use TS art without asking for his permission.. BUT he want to go to court and fight TS.

LMAO.. take him on TS. Take him on.

You are 100% in your right to ask him to remove your artwork from his video. You even gave him a timeline to comply and he didnt.. So yes, he deserves the strike on his video.

Stand firm and stand tall. You have not done anything wrong and are firmly in your rights to do what you did. The law will favour you.

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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 01:36 AM)
This mat salleh youtuber use my artwork without permission... I copyright strike him and the video got deleted...
now he angry and make video about it in retaliation
because of this video all my social media kena flamed already by his fans
His toxic fans really effect my mental health
I couldn't sleep, lost my appetite and haven't eaten anything since 6am yesterday sad.gif


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ignore la, not like they are going to kill you or what.
Why bother what they say/flame/kutuk
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that guy look like another smelly fat-fuck

his room must be stink AF

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well u could comment in his video and ask him contact u and resolve the issue?
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 01:13 PM)
Well, my opinion is different in that TS can own the art but not profit from it under fair use. In the same vein, he can stop other people like this YouTuber from profiting from it too by using the copyright strike.

If this YouTuber wants to claim fair use, then the artist has fair use too. If he wants to claim copyright, then he doesn't have the right to use the art either. So which is it?
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Copyright claims means TS claims the commentary video produced by TheQuartering belong to TS and he is the rightful owner of the video.

The commentary video itself is original and TheQuartering owns the rights to it completely, using the art by TS is under fair use because the monetization is on his commentary, opinion and the video editing, not on TS art. As long as the final work produced is a commentary, parody, satire or critic, it is covered under fair use and TS cannot copyright claim the final work.
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People going after TS for selling artworks that are parody are mad silly, I haven't gone thru their work but from the one in vid and their avatar can see it's not 100% ciplak/copy paste work. It's totally in fair use including rights to monetize

And about the issue at hand here is silly too, which of y'all defending a neckbeard cracker are just outing themselves as clowns ngl
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QUOTE(Swordsmen @ Sep 21 2020, 01:21 PM)
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Good job for showing how ignorant Malaysians are.
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Entitled prick.

He doesn't have the courtesy to ask TS for the usage of his image / visuals - that's a clear copyright violation. Now he's claiming that TS never bothered to email him to resolve this.

Dude, you didn't even have the courtesy to ask his permission for his work, and you expect people to have the courtesy to tell you that you have stolen his / her work? Clown.

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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 01:15 PM)
You are the one that need to drill it into your head that that's up to YouTube not the law. So much shit in your head that you think a copyright claim in YouTube is the same as the real world. laugh.gif
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Holy fucking retarded idiot.

YOUTUBE ONLY PROVIDE THE PLATFORM BETWEEN TWO LEGAL TEAMS TO FIGHT OVER THIS DISPUTE.
Youtube literally made it the same as REAL WORLD when they transition from community based website to a more corporate video website.
Where the fuck have you been all this time?

When TS filed for a strike, he essentially representing himself in a legal battle against this youtuber over a copy right claim.
The reason why YouTube automatically took the video down is to protect themselves. They are liable as long as they let the video under legal dispute goes up on their website.

This youtuber then need to file a counter notification against TS legal team, essentially presenting their argument against TS himself.
Two things gonna happen, TS retract their claim and YouTube automatically restore the vid when he does that.
Or TS refuse to do so, and if this happen the youtuber legal team can take this to a court.
Both side then argue their case in front of a judge.


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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Sep 21 2020, 01:22 PM)
Copyright claims means TS claims the commentary video produced by TheQuartering belong to TS and he is the rightful owner of the video.

The commentary video itself is original and TheQuartering owns the rights to it completely, using the art by TS is under fair use because the monetization is on his commentary, opinion and the video editing, not on TS art. As long as the final work produced is a commentary, parody, satire or critic, it is covered under fair use and TS cannot copyright claim the final work.
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By your logic, copyrighted music played in the background of videos cannot be claimed but we all know that's not true. Every experienced YouTuber knows to be careful with all assets they use in their video including this YouTuber as he even admitted himself that it was his mistake.
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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Sep 21 2020, 01:22 PM)
Copyright claims means TS claims the commentary video produced by TheQuartering belong to TS and he is the rightful owner of the video.

The commentary video itself is original and TheQuartering owns the rights to it completely, using the art by TS is under fair use because the monetization is on his commentary, opinion and the video editing, not on TS art. As long as the final work produced is a commentary, parody, satire or critic, it is covered under fair use and TS cannot copyright claim the final work.
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TS can also argue on the basis of DMCA copyright infringement claim. DMCA circumvents fair use argument..

No matter which argument you try to use, the law is firmly on TS side here.
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 01:13 PM)
Well, my opinion is different in that TS can own the art but not profit from it under fair use. In the same vein, he can stop other people like this YouTuber from profiting from it too by using the copyright strike.

If this YouTuber wants to claim fair use, then the artist has fair use too.
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the artist can make parody art under fair use, but fair use does not allow the artist to claim a strike on someone that makes a comment on it in his own work, because fair use protects the commentator as well.

that's just how it works sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 01:26 PM)
By your logic, copyrighted music played in the background of videos cannot be claimed but we all know that's not true. Every experienced YouTuber knows to be careful with all assets they use in their video including this YouTuber as he even admitted himself that it was his mistake.
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yup.. that copyright protection falls firmly under DMCA restrictions. TS can use the DMCA to fight any lawsuit on fair use of his material and win.

Mat Salleh would be stupid to take this to court. He will lose for sure.

What he SHOULD do now is to remove TS artwork and re-create the video. Problem solved..

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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Sep 21 2020, 01:26 PM)
By your logic, copyrighted music played in the background of videos cannot be claimed but we all know that's not true. Every experienced YouTuber knows to be careful with all assets they use in their video including this YouTuber as he even admitted himself that it was his mistake.
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You do know there are movie review channels and reaction channels on Youtube that operates the same way right under fair use right?

Youtuber generally avoid copyrighted materials because of the hassle fighting a mega corporation legal team that can drag them to court and keep dragging the case endlessly.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 07:53 AM)
Please fucking don't.
Did you read what TS did? He copy strike a video that show his artwork for 4 seconds.

FOUR FUCKING SECONDS.

The one who escalate this is TS who went to strike said video, which could've result in the whole channel taken down.
Robbing a youtuber out of his source of income.
TS also didn't exhaust all means of contacting him, simply tagging him on twitter and waited less than 20 hours to strike him down. ranting.gif

We would make a fool out of ourself if we rally behind TS.
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Typical snowflake sjw who thinks the world owes youtubers a living. Just like any other jobs if it’s your source of income it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to take care of your own fucking ricebowl. That includes not doing anything that could risk people striking your video.

You did something wrong then it’s you need to face the consequences not cry like a baby when things go south and play victim saying this person should have contacted me first instead of reporting me. Heck, u must be a beta cuck, if someone breaks into your house you also invite him to have coffee first and ask him to leave nicely right? Coz reporting him to the cops would ruin his livelihood.

QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 08:07 AM)
I am fine if the youtuber replied and said 'fuck off, were not taken it down'.
But TS didn't even wait for his reply and went straight for a strike.

Also, who the fuck would've think that there would be an artist as petty as TS that would strike a fucking video for TWO SECONDS worth of appearance.
This youtuber is definitely is a wrong here for using his artwork without a permission, but that doesn't make TS any less piece of shit.
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Learn to look at the root cause of things not at people’s reactions. You sound like a bitch who did something wrong then when people retaliate seek sympathy by saying that was too harsh. Boo hoo, the world is a harsh place.

I guess based on your logic if someone tried to rape a girl and only manage to put it the tip of his dick then it’s not rape coz there’s no full on penetration huh? It’s just 2 seconds of the dick on the outer layers of the vagina, so let’s just let it go.

QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 08:19 AM)
First of all, its the editor who added the image, not the youtuber himself.
TS also stated that he strike the video the very next day he tweeted about it.
Why the fuck would I give you 10 ringgit? That analogy doesn't make any fucking sense at all.

Like I said, the youtuber is in the wrong for using somebody artwork.
But risking destroying his whole career for it? For two fucking seconds of TS artwork flashing on a screen? Two seconds out of 600 seconds worth of vid?

TS is in the right for the strike, but like I said over and over again, it doesn't make him less of a cunt.
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Oi cibai, when you run a YouTube channel you’re responsible for the content and anything your member of staff do.

Again TS did not risk destroying the YouTuber career, it’s the YouTuber who did that to himself for not taking control and accounts for the content he posted. Learn to take some self responsibility instead of blaming others for one’s own screwups.

QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 08:46 AM)
Like I fucking said, TS in the right for claiming the rights for his artwork.
Read what I wrote retard.
TS didn't give him ANY LEEWAY at all. There is ZERO DISCUSSION involving TS and the Youtuber.
TS went to strike him less than 24 hours after tagging him in a fucking tweet.
This not stab vs stab, this is slap vs a shoot in the head.

I repeat,  EVEN THOUGH TS IS IN THE RIGHT TO DO SO, IT DOESN'T MAKE HIM LESS OF A CUNT.
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Giving leeway is a courtesy not a right. Again no one owes youtubers a living.

Heck, based on this mentality you must be a najib supporter, he makes a living by songlapping, people should give him the chance to return the money he songlap instead of reporting him and putting him on trial. Now his whole livelihood is ruined. TOPKEK!

QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 09:10 AM)
The level of cuntness isn't the amount of time you're being a cunt, its how big your fuck up is.

If you still want to quantifies cuntness in numbers, than striking a youtuber is worth 1000 cunts.
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Again, perhaps it’s time you youtubers stop being whiny snowflakes and learn to be responsible for your own actions.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 01:23 PM)
Holy fucking retarded idiot.

YOUTUBE ONLY PROVIDE THE PLATFORM BETWEEN TWO LEGAL TEAMS TO FIGHT OVER THIS DISPUTE.
Youtube literally made it the same as REAL WORLD when they transition from community based website to a more corporate video website.
Where the fuck have you been all this time?

When TS filed for a strike, he essentially representing himself in a legal battle against this youtuber over a copy right claim.
The reason why YouTube automatically took the video down is to protect themselves. They are liable as long as they let the video under legal dispute goes up on their website.

This youtuber then need to file a counter notification against TS legal team, essentially presenting their argument against TS himself.
Two things gonna happen, TS retract their claim and YouTube automatically restore the vid when he does that.
Or TS refuse to do so, and if this happen the youtuber legal team can take this to a court.
Both side then argue their case in front of a judge.
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To be fair, even if the YouTuber doesn't deserved a copyright strike from the artist, he deserved one from all the copyright holders. YouTube isn't going to remove his strike either way. Maybe even add more strikes after combing through his channel. rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Sep 21 2020, 01:28 PM)
TS can also argue on the basis of DMCA copyright infringement claim. DMCA circumvents fair use argument..

No matter which argument you try to use, the law is firmly on TS side here.
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Copyright claim between TS and TheQuartering does not falls under DMCA, just because you can make the claim does not means it can be applied.

Also false DMCA claim is an offense under US law.

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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 12:56 PM)
Yes, I actually do own any fan art that depict my creation, or a likeness to said creation (depend on how big of a cunt I am).

Does this make it clear?
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lol what a cunt

QUOTE(hurricane21 @ Sep 21 2020, 01:19 PM)
that guy look like another smelly fat-fuck

his room must be stink AF

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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Sep 21 2020, 01:30 PM)
You do know there are movie review channels and reaction channels on Youtube that operates the same way right under fair use right?

Youtuber generally avoid copyrighted materials because of the hassle fighting a mega corporation legal team that can drag them to court and keep dragging the case endlessly.
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That is different from TS situation.. The Youtuber isn't using material from a movie to talk about his subject matter, NO, he is using a THIRD persons artwork to make his point and make profit from it..

That is considered STEALING already.

Totally different rules apply here.
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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Sep 21 2020, 01:30 PM)
You do know there are movie review channels and reaction channels on Youtube that operates the same way right under fair use right?

Youtuber generally avoid copyrighted materials because of the hassle fighting a mega corporation legal team that can drag them to court and keep dragging the case endlessly.
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Even the YouTuber knows that he made a mistake by not asking for permission before using the art so why argue about fair use now? Just learn from this mistake and move on.
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QUOTE(bottomfrag @ Sep 21 2020, 01:15 PM)
Genuine question. By "comment on it", do you mean people make reference to the artwork and critique it or something like that? Cos from what I watched in the video, the guy claims his editor put it in and he wasn't aware of it.
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hm, if that's true, then it still can be considered "reporting" (i.e. adding pictures to illustrate what is being talked about). but i dunno, i'm not expert in this sweat.gif
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Sep 21 2020, 02:06 PM)
ok this cb is a male version karen. sendiri use copyright material without permission and blame youtube.. stupid idiot.
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QUOTE(ylyap @ Sep 21 2020, 02:06 PM)
seriously like this also can reach 21 pages  shakehead.gif
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To befair, ts is using itsagumdum.
Not bandai's gundam.

Under us parody law, itsagundum can use it.

But fan art is another thing.

Ts intension is dont want associate his art with this drama channel and this guy use his fan art of a youtuber without asking.

Character is base on art of youtuber celebrity.
Not bulat steal bandai gundum.

But some ppl in here insist gundum belong to bandai.
Idkk what to say liao.

Its nitpicking in form of defend to defend.

Dont forget quatering former channel name mtgheadquater and got strike till take down cause he using his clout harassing some wimin mtg player who strike him from using her cosplay picture.

Wizard of the coast banned him from any mtg and his channel name. After that his new drama channel also living among these spontenous fight over the internet.

See what youtube says.
Since he bring this up. Another review will be up soon.

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Sep 21 2020, 01:30 PM)
Again TS did not risk destroying the YouTuber career, it’s the YouTuber who did that to himself for not taking control and accounts for the content he posted. Learn to take some self responsibility instead of blaming others for one’s own screwups.
You are correct but this is Malaysia where from the top itself is all about finding other peoples to blame for any and all problems and stealing money from others.
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Oh this guy. He used to be MTG Headquarter opening packs for entertainment. That was long time ago. And then when he got sponsored, he became more irrelevant and toxic. That’s when I decided to unsub his channel. Doesn’t surprise me he does this shit. Anyway TS stay strong.
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QUOTE(cyhborg @ Sep 21 2020, 01:29 PM)
the artist can make parody art under fair use, but fair use does not allow the artist to claim a strike on someone that makes a comment on it in his own work, because fair use protects the commentator as well.

that's just how it works  sweat.gif
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fair enough, the owner does own the art, and others can use the art as part of a commentary. hmm.gif

i thought for manual copyright strike, youtube would at least go through the claims manually before giving you a strike? huh.gif
well Cr1tikal also did mentioned how hard it is to get in touch with an actual human from Youtube side of things (including Markiplier had problems trying to contact them so you have to rely on raising as much racket as possible) dry.gif
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QUOTE(scorptim @ Sep 21 2020, 01:30 PM)
Typical snowflake sjw who thinks the world owes youtubers a living. Just like any other jobs if it’s your source of income it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to take care of your own fucking ricebowl. That includes not doing anything that could risk people striking your video.

You did something wrong then it’s you need to face the consequences not cry like a baby when things go south and play victim saying this person should have contacted me first instead of reporting me. Heck, u must be a beta cuck, if someone breaks into your house you also invite him to have coffee first and ask him to leave nicely right? Coz reporting him to the cops would ruin his livelihood.
Learn to look at the root cause of things not at people’s reactions. You sound like a bitch who did something wrong then when people retaliate seek sympathy by saying that was too harsh. Boo hoo, the world is a harsh place.

I guess based on your logic if someone tried to rape a girl and only manage to put it the tip of his dick then it’s not rape coz there’s no full on penetration huh? It’s just 2 seconds of the dick on the outer layers of the vagina, so let’s just let it go.
Oi cibai, when you run a YouTube channel you’re responsible for the content and anything your member of staff do.

Again TS did not risk destroying the YouTuber career, it’s the YouTuber who did that to himself for not taking control and accounts for the content he posted. Learn to take some self responsibility instead of blaming others for one’s own screwups.
Giving leeway is a courtesy not a right. Again no one owes youtubers a living.

Heck, based on this mentality you must be a najib supporter, he makes a living by songlapping, people should give him the chance to return the money he songlap instead of reporting him and putting him on trial. Now his whole livelihood is ruined. TOPKEK!
Again, perhaps it’s time you youtubers stop being whiny snowflakes and learn to be responsible for your own actions.
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Holy fucking cunt.
Lets get rid of all the shitty analogy, rambling, strawman and focus on your real, substantial argument here.

Yes, a youtuber is responsible for their own content.
This youtuber is a rude fella, a cunt, for not crediting TS of said artwork.
I agree with ya on this.
But that still doesn't give TS any legal ground for a copy right claim. Like, at all.
Not legally, not morally.
Especially given how little effort TS did to reach out to this youtuber for any discussion or understanding.

You honestly undermined how severe a copy strike, with zero context on the consequences and legal ramification behind it.
How many 'screwups' or 'oopsie' did you do that would lead you getting fired without any income? How severe it is?
Educate yourself a bit on this, ease on the rambling and come back with a better argument.
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QUOTE(nakal_mode @ Sep 21 2020, 01:34 PM)
Copyright claim between TS and TheQuartering does not falls under DMCA, just because you can make the claim does not means it can be applied.

Also false DMCA claim is an offense under US law.
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1) he didn't apply it.. YOUTUBE automatically did.

2) Yes, yes he can use DMCA. He is the original author of his material. He has every right on how and where it can be used.


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QUOTE(cyhborg @ Sep 21 2020, 01:38 PM)
hm, if that's true, then it still can be considered "reporting" (i.e. adding pictures to illustrate what is being talked about). but i dunno, i'm not expert in this  sweat.gif
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If it's just there without any references made to it, then what is it being reported about? Well pretty sure most of us are not experts as well. Especially since the law differs between countries.
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QUOTE(Stirmling @ Sep 21 2020, 01:41 PM)
fair enough, the owner does own the art, and others can use the art as part of a commentary. hmm.gif

i thought for manual copyright strike, youtube would at least go through the claims manually before giving you a strike? huh.gif
well Cr1tikal also did mentioned how hard it is to get in touch with an actual human from Youtube side of things (including Markiplier had problems trying to contact them so you have to rely on raising as much racket as possible) dry.gif
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yeah, which is why many ytubers getting more frustrated with yt over this issue, sampai hashtag Where's the Fair Use (#WTFU) emerged a few years back
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Sep 21 2020, 01:29 PM)
yup.. that copyright protection falls firmly under DMCA restrictions. TS can use the DMCA to fight any lawsuit on fair use of his material and win.

Mat Salleh would be stupid to take this to court. He will lose for sure.

What he SHOULD do now is to remove TS artwork and re-create the video. Problem solved..
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If TS had PMed him to remove the image and straight away copyright strike him then can la. Now got that strike on the account, that's the problem.

QUOTE(Liamness @ Sep 21 2020, 01:42 PM)
1) he didn't apply it.. YOUTUBE automatically did.

2) Yes, yes he can use DMCA. He is the original author of his material. He has every right on how and where it can be used.
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TS said he copyright strike the video , not Youtube auto.
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QUOTE(Killy @ Sep 21 2020, 01:46 AM)
dude you could have contacted him first instead of going for a strike straight
apparently, Youtube system is pretty terrible and they have very little leeway with strikes
if you watch his video, he says that he doesn't blame you but rather Youtube's system

personally I don't like his content, too sensationalized, dramatic
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why should he? the youtuber's action - that counts as a willing intent. he knew what he was doing. he did not ask permission beforehand. art is art, and often got idiots who think stealing art should have some "fair use" leeway, even when fair use means something else entirely.

a local telco stole my work many many years ago. somebody there think it's OK because it's just me vs her hiding in the name of the telco.

think she wanna layan my request that

1. she willingly stole my work
2. she did not ask permission
3. she should have paid me
4. she have to pay me

and MY SIDE have to wait for the whole redtape communication in the telco crossing multiple departments and levels and floors for a youtube video, and suck it up and expect not to have a favorable outcome in the meantime?

yeah. no fucking way. ako dmca je. instant communication, she got reprimanded as she should, telco apologized. fast, easy, setel.

fuck that white boi privilege. he knew what he was doing, he did not ask, nor did he want to ask beforehand, and now whining about a bigger entity enforcing dmca before that entity kena enforced themselves, and now trying to gain sympathy to join the group that got assraped by dmca? go die la cb amdk

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Sep 21 2020, 01:42 PM)
1) he didn't apply it.. YOUTUBE automatically did.

2) Yes, yes he can use DMCA. He is the original author of his material. He has every right on how and where it can be used.
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Nope, what he did is making a false claim.

A fan-art is ILLEGAL.
I repeat, in the eye of the law a FAN-ART IS ILLEGAL

It is currently under a mutual stand off between the artist and these company.
But they can, under every right of this stupid fucking law, eliminate fan-art and its entirety.

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If TS had PMed him to remove the image and straight away copyright strike him then can la. Now got that strike on the account, that's the problem.
TS said he copyright strike the video , not Youtube auto.
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TS did PM the youtuber to remove his image from the video.. But he never got a response back. Hence why he took the nuclear option of reporting it to youtube..



You got understand how youtube copyright strike works or not?? Youtube doesn't care whether it is a small section or what.. If someone makes a copyright report on your video, and it is successful, Youtube will remove the video entirely.

Once a report is made, there is no human involved in the process.. It is all down automatically.. So TS copyright strike the entire video because that is only available option he can take..

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Oh this guy. He used to be MTG Headquarter opening packs for entertainment. That was long time ago. And then when he got sponsored, he became more irrelevant and toxic. That’s when I decided to unsub his channel. Doesn’t surprise me he does this shit. Anyway TS stay strong.
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I use to sub him too for pack cracking when he start alot of toxic fight with other youtber i straight unsub.

He living of these drama. Ts giving him chance on this.
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QUOTE(bottomfrag @ Sep 21 2020, 01:42 PM)
If it's just there without any references made to it, then what is it being reported about?
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hard to tell, since original video is down
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Don't care about TS beef with The Quartering. The youtuber is one of the good guys calling out the crazy SJW influences in gaming and entertainment. But anyway not taking sides, all the best to yall.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 01:50 PM)
A fan-art is ILLEGAL.
I repeat, in the eye of the law a FAN-ART IS ILLEGAL
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agak2 la dik oi kalau nak kencing pon.

if u wanna cakap about law, where can say like that la dei doh.gif

that's like saying a knife is illegal. amende ko merapu wei.

biar clear boleh tak?

creating fan art is illegal?
selling fan art is illegal?
creating fan art is fair use?
discussing fan art is illegal?
promoting fan art is illegal?

law tarak mata la.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Sep 21 2020, 01:51 PM)
TS did PM the youtuber to remove his image from the video.. But he never got a response back. Hence why he took the nuclear option of reporting it to youtube..
You got understand how youtube copyright strike works or not?? Youtube doesn't care whether it is a small section or what.. If someone makes a copyright report on your video, and it is successful, Youtube will remove the video entirely.

Once a report is made, there is no human involved in the process.. It is all down automatically.. So TS copyright strike the entire video because that is only available option he can take..
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The one who have fuck all idea on how youtube work is ironically yourself.
Youtube didn't take down because TS is right, they took down because it is part of the process.
Any video that is in legal dispute would be taken down automatically to protect themselves. They don't want to open themselves to a lawsuit by letting it up.

Striking a video isn't the ONLY option TS.
Literally every youtuber that I talked said it was THE FINAL OPTION, when all means have been exhausted.
TS literally couldn't be arsed to wait a couple days longer, not he is arsed to wrote an official email to this youtuber official team.

All TS did is making a tweet and tag him, then process to strike him the next day the minimum delay regarding time zone.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Sep 21 2020, 01:38 PM)
That is different from TS situation.. The Youtuber isn't using material from a movie to talk about his subject matter, NO, he is using a THIRD persons artwork to make his point and make profit from it..

That is considered STEALING already.

Totally different rules apply here.
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IP and copyrights is IP and copyrights does not matter it is movie, song or drawn art.

And fair use covers everything does not matter it is movie, song or drawn art.
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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Sep 21 2020, 01:57 PM)
agak2 la dik oi kalau nak kencing pon.

if u wanna cakap about law, where can say like that la dei  doh.gif

that's like saying a knife is illegal. amende ko merapu wei.

biar clear boleh tak?

creating fan art is illegal?
selling fan art is illegal?
creating fan art is fair use?
discussing fan art is illegal?
promoting fan art is illegal?

law tarak mata la.
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So does TS have legal basis to copyright strike that jewtuber or not? I wanna know too.

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This thread so long winded.. Lost interest almost immediately, but i want help ts. Anyone can give summary how and what to report?
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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Sep 21 2020, 01:57 PM)
agak2 la dik oi kalau nak kencing pon.

if u wanna cakap about law, where can say like that la dei  doh.gif

that's like saying a knife is illegal. amende ko merapu wei.

biar clear boleh tak?

creating fan art is illegal?
selling fan art is illegal?
creating fan art is fair use?
discussing fan art is illegal?
promoting fan art is illegal?

law tarak mata la.
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Knife is not illegal since the law said its not illegal.
Fan art is illegal because the law said it is.

Like I said over and over again, the current state of these fan-art is all on this mutual understanding between the fans and the corporate.




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is actually very simple.

u mau guna barang orang, lu tanya dulu la. orang kasi atau tamau kasi determines the next answer.

lu pigi curik guna mana boleh ?
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Even the YouTuber knows that he made a mistake by not asking for permission before using the art so why argue about fair use now? Just learn from this mistake and move on.
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This applies to TS as well.
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is actually very simple.

u mau guna barang orang, lu tanya dulu la. orang kasi atau tamau kasi determines the next answer.

lu pigi curik guna mana boleh ?
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But its not that simple.
This is a thief, calling out others for using his stolen product.

A fan-art is a plagiarism, unless TS have copy right claim over the content of his fan art, he doesn't have any moral nor legal rights to state his claim.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 01:59 PM)
The one who have fuck all idea on how youtube work is ironically yourself.
Youtube didn't take down because TS is right, they took down because it is part of the process.
Any video that is in legal dispute would be taken down automatically to protect themselves. They don't want to open themselves to a lawsuit by letting it up.

Striking a video isn't the ONLY option TS.
Literally every youtuber that I talked said it was THE FINAL OPTION, when all means have been exhausted.
TS literally couldn't be arsed to wait a couple days longer, not he is arsed to wrote an official email to this youtuber official team.

All TS did is making a tweet and tag him, then process to strike him the next day the minimum delay regarding time zone.
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you got understand what it means to make money first or not? every single second of eyeball viewing that video is every $$ not going to TS.

So no, I don't agree that he had to wait any longer than he felt he needed to.

And yes, he did infact, reached out to the youtuber.. In this day and age, tweeter is faster and more effective than email.. It is out in the public, anyone can see that he messaged him. So the paper trail is there should he need official documentation for proof that he took avenues to resolve the issue in a diplomatic manner..

Fact is, once the tweet reaches the youtuber, he could view it immediately and take proper action.. You get notifications, You have your team also monitoring your feed.. So again, he could have taken immediate action or even send a reply back saying he will respond in within a day.

But he never did anything. So again, he deserves it.. When it comes to money, you don't fuck around..
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boiling after watching that video...

Sibeh lansiiii wooiii.....

This is what i called use another mistake to cover own mistake...



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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 02:05 PM)
But its not that simple.
This is a thief, calling out others for using his stolen product.

A fan-art is a plagiarism, unless TS have copy right claim over the content of his fan art, he doesn't have any moral nor legal rights to state his claim.
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You got a crude understanding of what plagiarism or theft even is.. LOL.

luckily, it's only YOU who can't seem to grasps what actually constitutes as plagiarism..


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the most important now is........ MANA TS. diam jer
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Reading this thread
Don't know what gets into blackmambo

I look at the video, the Youtuber not appologitic at all
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If go to court how will it be? He is in US, TS is in Malaysia.
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I think it will be copyright violator vs. YouTube.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Sep 21 2020, 02:05 PM)
you got understand what it means to make money first or not? every single second of eyeball viewing that video is every $$ not going to TS.

So no, I don't agree that he had to wait any longer than he felt he needed to.

And yes, he did infact, reached out to the youtuber.. In this day and age, tweeter is faster and more effective than email.. It is out in the public, anyone can see that he messaged him. So the paper trail is there should he need official documentation for proof that he took avenues to resolve the issue in a diplomatic manner..

Fact is, once the tweet reaches the youtuber, he could view it immediately and take proper action.. You get notifications, You have your team also monitoring your feed.. So again, he could have taken immediate action or even send a reply back saying he will respond in within a day.

But he never did anything. So again, he deserves it.. When it comes to money, you don't fuck around..
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Tagging a famous person on twitter is literally the worse thing you could do on trying to get his attention.
According to a tweet stat, he got almost 6.9 mil follower with new over 300 followers every single day.
He can easily miss a FUCKING TAG under the sea of replies, retweet and god know how many other tags he got.

Did TS email him, he got his business e-mail openly displayed.
His reddit sub seems pretty active, TS could make a thread there and get his community attention.

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QUOTE(Swordsmen @ Sep 21 2020, 03:10 PM)
the most important now is........ MANA TS. diam jer
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Biar diar arent ts says he got depression n anxiety.
Let him cool down 1st.


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QUOTE(munak991 @ Sep 21 2020, 02:11 PM)
Reading this thread
Don't know what gets into blackmambo

I look at the video, the Youtuber not appologitic at all
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Because as an artist with over 10 years of professional experience, I know my rights and law.
TS is abusing youtube copy right strike function by making a false claim, and I want him to retract it before its too late.
He have zero ground in law and reality when he did that.

I also empathize with the youtube creator community who is under a barrage and fear of legal ramification known as strike.
Fear over a shadow looming over their shoulder watching every single shit they do.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 02:13 PM)
Tagging a famous person on twitter is literally the worse thing you could do on trying to get his attention.
According to a tweet stat, he got almost 6.9 mil follower with new over 300 followers every single day.
He can easily miss a FUCKING TAG under the sea of replies, retweet and god know how many other tags he got.

Did TS email him, he got his business e-mail openly displayed.
His reddit sub seems pretty active, TS could make a thread there and get his community attention.
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and why would that matter? lol.. you mention followers and what not.. Likewise, he could be receiving emails like no tomorrow..

same thing with a reddit post.. which is NOT an official form of contact..

Like it or not, TS has done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law. The onus is on the youtuber to check and verify all of his videos complies with copyright laws and DMCA. And if there is disputes, the youtuber has to resolve it quickly..

If he can't even do that, then honestly, he deserves the copyright strike.. Time is of essence with these things.. Videos go viral, millions can be made or lost..


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QUOTE(Liamness @ Sep 21 2020, 02:05 PM)
you got understand what it means to make money first or not? every single second of eyeball viewing that video is every $$ not going to TS.

So no, I don't agree that he had to wait any longer than he felt he needed to.

And yes, he did infact, reached out to the youtuber.. In this day and age, tweeter is faster and more effective than email.. It is out in the public, anyone can see that he messaged him. So the paper trail is there should he need official documentation for proof that he took avenues to resolve the issue in a diplomatic manner..

Fact is, once the tweet reaches the youtuber, he could view it immediately and take proper action.. You get notifications, You have your team also monitoring your feed.. So again, he could have taken immediate action or even send a reply back saying he will respond in within a day.

But he never did anything. So again, he deserves it.. When it comes to money, you don't fuck around..
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Woah first time hearing twitter is faster and more effective than email. Should tell all my clients to start tweeting at me instead to solve issues. Been doing it wrong all these years.
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the most important now is........ MANA TS. diam jer
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bingo

why I have a feeling ts play innocence and create noise to gain publicity innocent.gif hmm.gif
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BlackMambo = TheQuartering ?
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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Sep 21 2020, 01:38 PM)
To befair, ts is using itsagumdum.
Not bandai's gundam.

Under us parody law, itsagundum can use it.

But fan art is another thing.

Ts intension is dont want associate his art with this drama channel and this guy use his fan art of a youtuber without asking.

Character is base on art of youtuber celebrity.
Not bulat steal bandai gundum.

But some ppl in here insist gundum belong to bandai.
Idkk what to say liao.

Its nitpicking in form of defend to defend.

Dont forget quatering former channel name mtgheadquater and got strike till take down cause he using his clout harassing some wimin mtg player who strike him from using her cosplay picture.

Wizard of the coast banned him from any mtg and his channel name. After that his new drama channel also living among these spontenous fight over the internet.

See what youtube says.
Since he bring this up. Another review will be up soon.
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The so called female MtG player is faking cyberbullying to try to cash in on Patreon.

MtG banned him as well as another pro player which lead of a mass boycott of MtG.
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QUOTE(ylyap @ Sep 21 2020, 02:20 PM)
bingo

why I have a feeling ts play innocence and create noise to gain publicity  innocent.gif  hmm.gif
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TS is here

i think this morning he got DM people who support him cuz i got his DM as well

but i think he will be busy to handle all the spammers on his DA page
kinda like if a lot spammers spam your FB every single post and you are an active poster GG
many work to do
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Sep 21 2020, 02:17 PM)
and why would that matter? lol.. you mention followers and what not.. Likewise, he could be receiving emails like no tomorrow..

same thing with a reddit post.. which is NOT an official form of contact..

Like it or not, TS has done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law. The onus is on the youtuber to check and verify all of his videos complies with copyright laws and DMCA. And if there is disputes, the youtuber has to resolve it quickly..

If he can't even do that, then honestly, he deserves the copyright strike.. Time is of essence with these things.. Videos go viral, millions can be made or lost..
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Holy goddam retard.
TS DOESN'T OWN THE ARTWORK.

An artist doesn't own an artwork that depict other people IP without express permission from said IP owners.
An artist usually protect themselves when doing so by claiming it to a fan art. A loud proclaimed intent of not abusing and profiting from said fan-art content.

I used to a call TS a cunt a couple of post before, but I already said that I am worried about TS since what he did is illegal shit and can be punished for it.
He needs to retract the claim and stop listening to you and other retards.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Sep 21 2020, 02:05 PM)
you got understand what it means to make money first or not? every single second of eyeball viewing that video is every $$ not going to TS.

So no, I don't agree that he had to wait any longer than he felt he needed to.

And yes, he did infact, reached out to the youtuber.. In this day and age, tweeter is faster and more effective than email.. It is out in the public, anyone can see that he messaged him. So the paper trail is there should he need official documentation for proof that he took avenues to resolve the issue in a diplomatic manner..

Fact is, once the tweet reaches the youtuber, he could view it immediately and take proper action.. You get notifications, You have your team also monitoring your feed.. So again, he could have taken immediate action or even send a reply back saying he will respond in within a day.

But he never did anything. So again, he deserves it.. When it comes to money, you don't fuck around..
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The f.....

If TS going to get paid for his work, it is going to be 1 time fee not royalty based.
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QUOTE(bansheelipsx @ Sep 21 2020, 02:05 PM)
boiling after watching that video...

Sibeh lansiiii wooiii.....

This is what i called use another mistake to cover own mistake...
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So TS got balls to file copyright claim in court for this or not?
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BlackMambo = TheQuartering ?
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Pffft, nah.
I heard and saw this dude video some years ago when the whole MTG drama involving him started because of some of the artist that I followed.

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QUOTE(grumpydrive @ Sep 21 2020, 02:00 PM)
So does TS have legal basis to copyright strike that jewtuber or not? I wanna know too.
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to talk about legal basis, we need to understand what legal basis means.

but to answer, yes he does. in fact, if YOU want to copyright strike that jewtuber, go ahead, as even YOU have the legal basis. but youtube nak accept or not lain cerita la.

QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 02:02 PM)
Knife is not illegal since the law said its not illegal.
Fan art is illegal because the law said it is.
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you don't get it. watch that video you yourself put again.

no such law that says fan art is illegal. that's stupid. lawmakers aren't stupid. it's not one of those things that benefit from being vague.
but got commonwealth as well as US laws that says about creating derivative work, about SELLING derivative work, about DISTRIBUTING derivative work.

if i really wanna entertain you, I'd ask you about what law says about derivative work as a DEFINITION.

again, cakap biar clear la dik. unless nak melebat dalam forum je la.
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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Sep 21 2020, 02:14 PM)
Biar diar arent ts says he got depression n anxiety.
Let him cool down 1st.
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OkU also?

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QUOTE(Songlap @ Sep 21 2020, 02:21 PM)
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Unlikely.

The quartering will milk this drama 99 on YouTube so that he get paid for it.

Arguing here doesn’t pay bills lol.
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Why this BlackMambo mati2 mau TS withdraw the strike?
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QUOTE(sunbearau @ Sep 21 2020, 02:19 PM)
Woah first time hearing twitter is faster and more effective than email. Should tell all my clients to start tweeting at me instead to solve issues. Been doing it wrong all these years.
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welcome to the new world.

email used to be faster than slow mail.

so, it's only natural that things progress and technology is already there for instant notifications and messaging.
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Why this BlackMambo mati2 mau TS withdraw the strike?
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