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Home Networking Ditch ONU, use GPON SFP on Business Grade Router, 2.5G ONU for Unifi & Maxis, NO NEED VLAN

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post Nov 19 2023, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Nov 19 2023, 10:58 AM)
Just broke it, ready for 2Gbps upgrade tongue.gif

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see what happen if you on 2G, is upload performance any better

hope you configured it correctly, since fiber is shared, OLT can ban you,
hope TM not that strict, but TM don't trust user to thinker their fiber which can lead other no internet momentarily
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since you using stock firmware, be-prepared just in case

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post Nov 19 2023, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Nov 19 2023, 10:58 AM)
Success, now time to figure out how to pass through voice VLAN to my opt ports

Broke the 940mbps limit, not quite 1Gbps but my network is not quiet, will test again with no active network devices on it later
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what was the issue? i just got a 2 port broadcom card just arrived but havent try yet
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post Nov 19 2023, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Nov 19 2023, 12:39 PM)
see what happen if you on 2G, is upload performance any better

hope you configured it correctly, since fiber is shared, OLT can ban you,
hope TM not that strict, but TM don't trust user to thinker their fiber which can lead other no internet momentarily
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since you using stock firmware, be-prepared just in case
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I just use all the default info on your GitHub page, except PLOAM password, should be fine?

QUOTE(paultantk @ Nov 19 2023, 02:01 PM)
what was the issue? i just got a 2 port broadcom card just arrived but havent try yet
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Power consumption causing the 2.5G port unable to start. My Aquantia 10G/5G/2.5G/1G transceiver was causing bxe0 (My GPON port) it, removed it(bxe1) and immediately started working on bxe0
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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Nov 19 2023, 03:04 PM)
I just use all the default info on your GitHub page, except PLOAM password, should be fine?
Power consumption causing the 2.5G port unable to start. My Aquantia 10G/5G/2.5G/1G transceiver was causing bxe0 (My GPON port) it, removed it(bxe1) and immediately started working on bxe0
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interesting find. means one card cannot support so many transceivers if the gpon is one of it. card issue or motherboard issue? 🤔

tq so much for the feedback. means potentially for my "ultimate pfsense router" i might need a motherboard with two pcie slot

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post Nov 19 2023, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Nov 19 2023, 03:04 PM)
I just use all the default info on your GitHub page, except PLOAM password, should be fine?
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every OLT TM is different, depend on how Vendor managed it. (TM is out sourcing the OLT, have appointed vendor to managed the OLT how vendor report back ALARM state case to TM)

when I put my old Huawei ONT, the WebGUI is accessible even fiber is plugged in.

and default firmware you use don't have DPN-FX3060V OMCI that OLT looking for (example MIB 255), mine has one and in-progress making my PON Stick legal to use

Managed entity ID Managed entity Description G.984 Clause G.984 Clause G.988 AT&T Open OMCI
240-255 Reserved for vendor-specific managed entities - - - -

so, try not to make any problem, hope OLT not query vendor-specific to your stick

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post Nov 19 2023, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(paultantk @ Nov 19 2023, 03:36 PM)
interesting find. means one card cannot support so many transceivers if the gpon is one of it. card issue or motherboard issue? 🤔

tq so much for the feedback. means potentially for my "ultimate pfsense router" i might need a motherboard with two pcie slot
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Maybe, can't say for certain as I'm currently only using China Transceivers with aquantia chipsets and Marvell chipsets. I have gotten recommendations from the GPON hacking community to try lower powered transceivers. But that's money I have to spend again, so maybe next month

QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Nov 19 2023, 04:13 PM)
every OLT TM is different, depend on how Vendor managed it. (TM is out sourcing the OLT, have appointed vendor to managed the OLT how vendor report back ALARM state case to TM)

when I put my old Huawei ONT, the WebGUI is accessible even fiber is plugged in.

and default firmware you use don't have DPN-FX3060V OMCI that OLT looking for (example MIB 255), mine has one and in-progress making my PON Stick legal to use

Managed entity ID Managed entity Description G.984 Clause G.984 Clause G.988 AT&T Open OMCI
240-255 Reserved for vendor-specific managed entities - - - -

so, try not to make any problem, hope OLT not query vendor-specific to your stick
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I haven't done any tinkering thus far with anything other than the cloning stock OMCI info, the upload speed does seems a tad bit lower. So I might tinker with that but if that might trigger alarms I'll just wait for the custom firmware by you. I'm currently running 2209 firmware from your github. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Nov 19 2023, 06:39 PM)
So I might tinker with that but if that might trigger alarms I'll just wait for the custom firmware by you. I'm currently running 2209 firmware from your github. sweat.gif
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firmware on my GitHub is Generic for World Wide use, not so stable since people reporting hang
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also, my firmware is not meant for distribution publicly, I abide by TM to keep it private. Sorry...
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Nov 19 2023, 07:59 PM)
firmware on my GitHub is Generic for World Wide use, not so stable since people reporting hang
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also, my firmware is not meant for distribution publicly, I abide by TM to keep it private. Sorry...
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Hm, what if I send my stick to you to flash? Seems like the only reasonable thing to do

Also I forgot I had bufferbloat settings, tweaked that and drool.gif
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Went to 1111 on DL bandwidth and 700 on UL bandwidth, need to try and play around a bit more

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post Nov 20 2023, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Nov 19 2023, 10:36 PM)
Hm, what if I send my stick to you to flash? Seems like the only reasonable thing to do

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you shouldn't even be discussing arrangement in public whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Nov 20 2023, 10:21 AM)
you shouldn't even be discussing arrangement in public whistling.gif
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Fair point laugh.gif
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Checked again on TB and will be purchasing another 10G transceiver (RTL8261), 1.9w approximate power consumption wise to see if BCM57810S/BCM57840 can run it beside the GPON ONU. Hopefully will be compatible but if BCM57810S has issues with two ports, the BCM57840 dream might be long gone hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Nov 22 2023, 04:47 PM)
Checked again on TB and will be purchasing another 10G transceiver (RTL8261), 1.9w approximate power consumption wise to see if BCM57810S/BCM57840 can run it beside the GPON ONU. Hopefully will be compatible but if BCM57810S has issues with two ports, the BCM57840 dream might be long gone hmm.gif
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right now what i have in mind is 1 x bcm57810s and 1 x i226 dual 2.5g card

2 x bcm57810s seems impossible to execute because it needs a pcie x8 slot which is hard to find two of them on small motherboards

the dual i226 i saw can use pcie x1
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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Nov 22 2023, 04:47 PM)
Checked again on TB and will be purchasing another 10G transceiver (RTL8261), 1.9w approximate power consumption wise to see if BCM57810S/BCM57840 can run it beside the GPON ONU. Hopefully will be compatible but if BCM57810S has issues with two ports, the BCM57840 dream might be long gone hmm.gif
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i have an idea

what if you use the 2.5g media converter that anime4000 packages with his onu? and connect it to a normal copper rj45 transceiver in the bcm57810s. that would mean the sfp onu would be powered by the media converter right? and the broadcom card would only need to power the normal copper transceiver. would this work?

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Even with local website. Unfi is shit. Try go in lowyat.net the different is heaven and hell when responding compared to maxis.
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QUOTE(paultantk @ Nov 23 2023, 06:29 AM)
right now what i have in mind is 1 x bcm57810s and 1 x i226 dual 2.5g card

2 x bcm57810s seems impossible to execute because it needs a pcie x8 slot which is hard to find two of them on small motherboards

the dual i226 i saw can use pcie x1
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Yeah that will work as well, I think the guy does have custom solution for 2x BCM57810S and 1x 2.5GB. Or just with BCM57840

QUOTE(paultantk @ Nov 23 2023, 08:21 AM)
i have an idea

what if you use the 2.5g media converter that anime4000 packages with his onu? and connect it to a normal copper rj45 transceiver in the bcm57810s. that would mean the sfp onu would be powered by the media converter right? and the broadcom card would only need to power the normal copper transceiver. would this work?
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Yeah that will work as well, but IDK I feel like that’d be defeating the purpose of a small AIO. Yeah the converter is not big by any stretch of the imagination but the need for 2 separate plugs is annoying to me.

if going that route, you technically just need 2x SFP+ transceiver, 1 negotiating at 2.5GBe and 1 negotiating at 10GBe as uplink
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I have successfully made voip call works on Android phone using the built-in SIP client. Router is Mikrotik.

High level Steps:
1. Add a VLAN. I use name "voip", tag it to ID 400.
2. Attach DHCP client to VLAN "voip". Don't use peer DNS, NTP or default route.
3. Once the DHCP client successfully get an address, check the Status and get it's default gateway address.
4. Add a static route with Dst Address 10.225.0.0/16, and put the default gateway address you copied above. Immediate Gateway should show something like this: 10.40.255.254%voip
5.Add a NAT rule. Chain=srcnat. Out Interface=voip. Action=masquerade
6. Add another NAT rule. Chain=dstnat. In Interface=voip. Action=dst-nat. To Addresses=<IP address of your phone>

Step 6 is necessary for RTP packet to reach you. For Cisco IOS, use the following instead:
ip nat service allow-sip-even-rtp-ports

Obviously for Mikrotik you can only use 1 phone. Cisco allow you to use multiple phone with one router configuration.

Android phone overview:
1. I use the Phone app
2. Go to Settings
3. Calling accounts
4. SIP accounts

I set "Send keep-alive" to "Always send"
After that just enable "Receive incoming calls"

Go to "All calling accounts" and enable the voip account.
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This is how it works for me previously - using ODI XPON stick. but i route/fwd the VLAN and bridge it to 1 eth port and assigned FreePBX raspberry PI to get the VLAN400 IP.

Now it's not working - seems like VLAN400 is not able to get IP anymore. Torching the sfp1-plus interface I can see that the DHCP server from VLAN400 is sending offer but without tagged VLAN id 400.

Another weird observation - I could get the IP from DHCP after I bridge VLAN400+sfp1-plus+any eth port or i put dhcp client on that new bridge - but it won't be able to route/traffic not working even after static route added.
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Suspecting TM did something at their backend that's breaking VoIP

OPNSense was running VLAN 500 only, tried putting VLAN 400 and VLAN 600 in DHCP mode and bridge VLAN and phy interface and it causes my internet via VLAN 500 to just freak out. Had to disable both VLANs for my internet to work properly

Hopefully this is just a fluke cause I'm fully prepared to switch to GPON when I have it configured properly
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QUOTE(aztech @ Nov 25 2023, 05:48 PM)
This is how it works for me previously - using ODI XPON stick. but i route/fwd the VLAN and bridge it to 1 eth port and assigned FreePBX raspberry PI to get the VLAN400 IP.

Now it's not working - seems like VLAN400 is not able to get IP anymore. Torching the sfp1-plus interface I can see that the DHCP server from VLAN400 is sending offer but without tagged VLAN id 400.

Another weird observation - I could get the IP from DHCP after I bridge VLAN400+sfp1-plus+any eth port or i put dhcp client on that new bridge - but it won't be able to route/traffic not working even after static route added.
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It seems like you have at least 2 separate issues.
First one is DHCP. Instead of using Torch, you need to use Packet Sniffer to see how packets traverse your network.
Sniff at the ONU port to see if things are working. Then sniff again at your bridged eth port.

The second issue is a common one. TM will change the Outbound Proxy of the VoIP once in a while. For me it has happened twice. Put back the TM ONU and verify VoIP is working. Then login the ONU and get the new Outbound Proxy. Configure the static route and your FreePBX accordingly.


[Firmware Feature Request]
Maybe a method to list configuration for VoIP?
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QUOTE(kwss @ Nov 27 2023, 02:48 AM)
It seems like you have at least 2 separate issues.
First one is DHCP. Instead of using Torch, you need to use Packet Sniffer to see how packets traverse your network.
Sniff at the ONU port to see if things are working. Then sniff again at your bridged eth port.

The second issue is a common one. TM will change the Outbound Proxy of the VoIP once in a while. For me it has happened twice. Put back the TM ONU and verify VoIP is working. Then login the ONU and get the new Outbound Proxy. Configure the static route and your FreePBX accordingly.
[Firmware Feature Request]
Maybe a method to list configuration for VoIP?
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Update : downgraded odi firmware to 220414 and voila, everything's back to normal. Not sure what's the diff with the latest 220923 but only 220414 working for me so far.
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Anyone using Maxis 2Gbps on TM Infra mind to shed some light on the performance?

Seriously considering switching over from TIME 1Gbps

TIME 2Gbps is too pricey

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