Home Networking Ditch ONU, use GPON SFP on Business Grade Router, 2.5G ONU for Unifi & Maxis, NO NEED VLAN
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 Nov 9 2023, 03:11 PM
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i am some one who don't like blackbox solutions that i don't have understanding about. or worst, no control over.
what's this pfsense? i never used it. what's if i install rhel-variant or debian-variant and configure everything from scratch. will that be better or worst than -whatever-? |
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Nov 9 2023, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Nov 9 2023, 03:09 PM) those lazada/shopee mini pc with multiple (claimed) 2.5Gbps. running on intel celeron etc. https://www.servethehome.com/two-fanless-in...tions-reviewed/are they powerful and stable to be turned into ultra router? i'm waiting to see what "token of appreciation" is first. if really getting 2.5Gbps BTU, then this will be sweet.  QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Nov 9 2023, 03:11 PM) i am some one who don't like blackbox solutions that i don't have understanding about. or worst, no control over. Open your PC, download the ISO and virtualize it under any VM and give it a trywhat's this pfsense? i never used it. what's if i install rhel-variant or debian-variant and configure everything from scratch. will that be better or worst than -whatever-? And pfSense and OPNSense is based on FreeBSD, not Debian, I guess you can try to work with a Linux based router and tinker your way up but why do that when an open source alternative already exist |
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Nov 9 2023, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Nov 9 2023, 02:56 PM) Proxmox, and virtualization Sounds like you are enterprise grade user, I just pretending to be in prosumer segment Pre-made boxes are nice but I want more power and more control over my hardware and do whatever I want. Mikrotik is no way in shape or form bad by any means, just not for me. Another reason why I'm currently just using OPNSense virtualize on my homelab  QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Nov 9 2023, 03:11 PM) what's if i install rhel-variant or debian-variant and configure everything from scratch. will that be better or worst than -whatever-? I guess almost anything is possible with Linux if you have the know how to harden the OS and configure the services/features that you wanted. IPFire is debian based. You could check it out. |
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Nov 9 2023, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Nov 9 2023, 03:09 PM) those lazada/shopee mini pc with multiple (claimed) 2.5Gbps. running on intel celeron etc. Yes i do have a coupled, using this mini pc for load balance since 2018, i have celeron j3160 (4x gb lan).. 4series celeron with (6x gb lan) and now 6 x 2.5gbps lan for 5 series celeron with 32Gb ram (running proxmox / exsi 8) .. it’s indeed powerful, have been using with mikrotik router os.. openwrt .. pfsense.. opnsense ..vyos.. ubuntu .. ads block, pihole.. unify controller, omada controller .. etc in vm or direct..are they powerful and stable to be turned into ultra router? i'm waiting to see what "token of appreciation" is first. if really getting 2.5Gbps BTU, then this will be sweet. Now Using with xdi zte with media converter 2.5Gbps for my unifi for few month already, thinking to try tp-link with sfp (ER8411), but vefore that need to be sure … which direct sfp xpon (unifi compatible) can be use.. in this router If you like to explore this x86 box i think it a good learning curve.. plenty of documentation on configuration |
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Nov 9 2023, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Nov 9 2023, 03:09 PM) those lazada/shopee mini pc with multiple (claimed) 2.5Gbps. running on intel celeron etc. When new 2Gbps subscriber apply, TM change OLT card to more *capable*, I not sure it's 10G/XGS/XG PON ready, this make TM hold back and keep giving D-Link until it's ready... This is OLT Id changed to 0x00are they powerful and stable to be turned into ultra router? i'm waiting to see what "token of appreciation" is first. if really getting 2.5Gbps BTU, then this will be sweet. TM wont give 2.5GbE GPON ONT at the moment except Skyworth ONT for Maxis If you remember, I having struggle to achieve 1Gbps upload with GPON from Poland, also DPN-FX3060V modded facing same upload issue. I feel more about OLT TDM schedule issue |
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Nov 10 2023, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(cyberic @ Nov 9 2023, 04:37 PM) Sounds like you are enterprise grade user, I just pretending to be in prosumer segment I wouldn’t say I’m completely enterprise but I’m an avid homelab learner  |
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Nov 10 2023, 11:18 AM
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guys, does anyone know if these two support HiSGMII
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Nov 10 2023, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(paultantk @ Nov 10 2023, 11:18 AM) guys, does anyone know if these two support HiSGMII QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Sep 17 2023, 06:09 PM) To way I went to 2Gbps user within Seremban, I can do many test while I am there First, I test VSOL V2802RH  It did not work, the VLAN from OLT never get bridged... If you refer to this post, 2 Gbps User A and B has different Port Provisioning... 2 Gbps User A is Huawei 2 Gbps User B is Nokia/Alcatel-Lucent, Fiberhome, ZTE only work with OLT provision 2 Gbps User A style The 2 Gbps User B style is most common due to Maxis, Celcom, DiGi, other ISP riding TM Fiber... blame them?  Second, I tested TP-Link Deco that has SFP  TP-Link Deco SFP doesnt understand it, cannot get PPPoE even in 1G mode, thus TP-Link Deco doesent understand (X/Q/Hi/SG)MII Standard, only works Base-T tldr; TP-Link Deco SFP cannot use GPON ONU SFP MII Standard (Common use on non Ethernet Frame such as xDSL ATM Frame which same GPON use) 1Gbps: SGMII 2.5Gbps: HiSGMII (2x SG Lane) 5Gbps: QSGMII (4x SG Lane) 10Gbps: XGMII (XAUI) Base-T Standard (Twisted Pair) 1000MBase-T (1G) 2.5GBase-T (2.5G) 5GBase-T (5G) 10GBase-T (10G) Base-X Standard (Fiber Ethernet Frame) 1000Base-X (1G) 2500Base-X (2.5G) ... the SFP communication can be anything, not all that is why Mikrotik to support MII is by disable Auto Negotiate Ubiquiti, Aruba and Others should do that! |
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Nov 10 2023, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(paultantk @ Nov 10 2023, 11:18 AM) guys, does anyone know if these two support HiSGMII BE85, no, only 1GBE800, not sure, I asking TP-Link to lend one demo unit paultantk liked this post
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Nov 11 2023, 12:17 AM
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would the onu work on the sfp on this? i think theyre using intel 82599
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.SaYlc |
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Nov 11 2023, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(paultantk @ Nov 11 2023, 12:17 AM) would the onu work on the sfp on this? i think theyre using intel 82599 82599 won't work, broadcom cards are the only one known to work at the moment. Mellanox/Solarflare etc all are not known to work at all atmhttps://s.lazada.com.my/s.SaYlc paultantk liked this post
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Nov 11 2023, 06:57 AM
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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Nov 11 2023, 12:48 AM) 82599 won't work, broadcom cards are the only one known to work at the moment. Mellanox/Solarflare etc all are not known to work at all atm thankslooks like these mini pcs are impossible to use for pfsense with the sfp onu then cos all intel probably need some sff dell optiplex with pcie slots and use the broadcom card |
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Nov 11 2023, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE(paultantk @ Nov 11 2023, 06:57 AM) thanks looks like these mini pcs are impossible to use for pfsense with the sfp onu then cos all intel probably need some sff dell optiplex with pcie slots and use the broadcom card QUOTE(yenchenje @ Nov 9 2023, 08:27 AM) Not sure about premade routers and prebuilt a but I found a x86 box (Lenovo M910x) for about 1.2k MYR on Xianyu for sale that has the ability to take a 8x card in a 16x slot. One of the config includes BCM57840(Quad port SFP+ card, 4 port variant of the BCM57810S) which has support for HiSGMII. If you’re looking into still running x86, might be a viable option to invest in. Low profile, low power requirements and SFF as well I’m planning to buy this during Dec, and run 1 GPON stick, 1 10GBe, 1 2.5GBe and 1 1GBe with the 4 SFP+ ports, with “low temps” Aquantia transceivers as my main router box  |
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Nov 11 2023, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Nov 11 2023, 08:11 AM) |
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Nov 11 2023, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(paultantk @ Nov 11 2023, 10:23 AM) wow! i need to see if i can figure out xianyu If you’ve used Taobao, you should be able to just log in directly with Taobao and buy the item to ship to a reshipper. I’ll purchase one during Dec to test and will post when i do  |
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Nov 11 2023, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Nov 11 2023, 10:55 AM) If you’ve used Taobao, you should be able to just log in directly with Taobao and buy the item to ship to a reshipper. perhaps buy Mini PC that have SFP+ ?I’ll purchase one during Dec to test and will post when i do I been wondering if that supports HiSGMII, maybe you can ask them in Chinese 😅 |
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Nov 11 2023, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Nov 11 2023, 04:39 PM) perhaps buy Mini PC that have SFP+ ? Normally mini PC all use Mellanox/82599 cards, I have yet to see any of them using Broadcom cards and Broadcom/Qlogic is the only ones I see that supports HiSGMIII been wondering if that supports HiSGMII, maybe you can ask them in Chinese 😅 |
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Nov 12 2023, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Nov 11 2023, 06:20 PM) Normally mini PC all use Mellanox/82599 cards, I have yet to see any of them using Broadcom cards and Broadcom/Qlogic is the only ones I see that supports HiSGMII They should make Multi-Gig SFP+ mini PCI manage to fix upload issue on my GPON Stick from Poland. What I do, instead of using OLT Provisioned OMCI FwdOp, I override what OLT is set from 0x10 to my custom set 0x02 this make GEM port bridge as is without any Pbits/traffic scheduler, so, I just max out the upload. This could potentially disturb neighborhood internet this kind a dangerous, if they check my FwdOp is different, sure TM wants me to revert back I just reboot the stick since this not persistent setting, only my xPON firmware can save FwdOp across reboot ejery liked this post
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Nov 12 2023, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(yenchenje @ Nov 11 2023, 06:20 PM) Normally mini PC all use Mellanox/82599 cards, I have yet to see any of them using Broadcom cards and Broadcom/Qlogic is the only ones I see that supports HiSGMII 82599 even if its SPF+ ports and not ethernet ports also cannot support right? |
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Nov 12 2023, 10:29 PM
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this one has a pci e slot, got potential to use with the broadcom nic and pfsense
https://www.servethehome.com/hp-t740-thin-c...slot-amd-ryzen/ |
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