How much is the starting pay for fresh graduates? 2.2K?

I think there abouts...

If I was sent overseas,what kind of accommodation will be provided?
Will I be staying with my colleagues i a house or what?

Depends on which country you go. Some are hotels some are apartments and even service apartments. Most probably your sharing room with another person unless you're the only one traveling there or higher rank.

for apartments no personal room provided? Rooms have to be shared?
By the way,are you still a Silverlaker??
I have just started to create RPG program..
Firs time doing RPG program,feel it is a bit difficult..

U can learn from Debugging...once u understand how the RPG or RPLGE language works...its very easy..

Well, I would say again..my suggestion is,..u learn...then u go..it's not worth ur time there

This is MY PERSONAL OPINION...

Only those rank like SA will get personal room. Other will be in twin sharing basis.

It will take some time for you to get used to RPG. Its actually not difficult to code. The difficult part is the application logic.

Yes, I'm still a Silverlaker

thx for u guys opinion and comment...i will intern there in tis coming december and most probably in project management department...any1 noe wat is the department about???

if i interest to continue work in silverlake after my intern mean i work as permanent staff...is it possible???because after intern,mean tat i graduate dy...thx...^^

If ur interested to work after graduation, Yes. the chances are very high unless u screw up your internship. Project management normally deals with clients and own ppl. Their job is mostly coordinating the project so client and own ppl could communicate and meet deadlines etc.

However, techincal ppl would mostly think project ppl are a waste of time because in the end its the techincal ppl who talks to the clients because PMO are just routers and know nothing.

Well, its my personal opinion cos I really dont know the job scope of PMO's. As an intern, you will have even more basic task I assume.

This post has been edited by Vinci777: Sep 20 2010, 12:43 AM

thank vinci for ur clear response...i hope it will be a nice job since tis is my 1st time to step into my working experience...thx a million to u...^^

Technical people think project management is waste of time because they are technical people. Have you seen any IT MNC CEO with pure technical background?

Lousy project managers know only passing tasks around. Better ones will manage both sides so that the project can be completed on time and within budget, e.g. do not add new feature, over-engineering.

Yea. Like u said. Lousy ones. . What I expect from the better ones are those who knows wats going on. Coordinate everything and get what we need on time. Most of them just asking us to finish on time while the tools and documents from clients that are supposed to be followed up by them are missing. In the end, technical ppl need to approach clients rather than waiting for PMO's so we could get our work done and communication are easier.

Understood what u've gone thru, Vinci. Allow me to chip in my 1 cent ?

In fact, a good PMO should be able to help the team, but not burden it. The effectiveness of PMO depends on tech and communication level of the person who man the shop. Preferable is one who able to explain the tech stuffs to non-tech manner or vice versa. Good PMO should also knows how, where and what to assist instead of just talk, get updates and doing postman job. People with this caliber does exist, but hard to locate. hahaha..

Otherwise, i don't think the tech people is comfortable on the present of PMO in the team - to them, is a burden instead.

sounds like you used to be sent overseas before..
Vinci,may i ask,If I wanted to stay and follow projects in Malaysia,will I able to learn a lot of experience?
Since Silverlake is taking more projects in Malaysia.
Any Silvelakers worked overseas before mind to share your experience here?

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Added on September 21, 2010, 9:46 pmYa,it is easier to learn the flow of the program in debug mode.
Why it is not worth my time there?


This post has been edited by Tiger99: Sep 21 2010, 09:46 PM

My 2 cents on silverlake
I'm working on a project in a bank which involves silverlake as well. My observation is if you join silverlake, you better join the technical side. The business consultants dont do much (in fact I dont know what they do since they are not even present in meetings. Technical team talks directly to the client instead of business consultants) Learning curve in the technical team will be more challenging but hey, no pain no gain. True fact

then your 2 cents is very subjective.
ppl want easy life, non-tech sounds the better choice.

then do you all mind to share u guys salary range???if compare to the market trend...u guys satisfy the ur salary???thx a million for ur reply...^^

In 2002, fresh grad RM2000...now not too sure...hope it helps bro!

Thank a million for ur replied...wow...year 2002 oredi rm2000,that means now sure around rm2500 dy...haha

Business Consultant/Analyst
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Focusing mainly on business impact and liaison with end-users and client's IT Dept. Measuring items in dollar and cents, talks about business direction and financial accounting. In certain situation, they are the tester and trainers as well.

Tech
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Talks about bits and bytes, communication protocols and methods. Concerning about the data, backups, records, disc space utilization, tuning, hardware, software and firmwares.

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Added on September 23, 2010, 10:01 pmbro, starting from rm2000 and the figure remain constant for many years coz increment is rare in Silverlake, right ? hahahaha~~~

This post has been edited by Gate_keeper: Sep 23 2010, 10:01 PM