todei my off day. so todei i layan /k, catching up on animes, play game abit... suddenly theres a knock at my house door. open it, i saw one chinese uncle standing in front of my house. he spoke to me in chinese, i replied 'sorry, can you speak in english, i couldnt understand chinese'

he then say 'ah, english ah' and some other chinese words. so thinking that he couldnt speak english, i ask him 'kalau english tak boleh, malay boleh cakap?'... he replied 'ok malay'

the next part shocked me. he couldnt even string a broken malay sentence, let alone a proper one.

unker:- 'bawah ah... bocor'
me:- 'apa yang bocor. gas? air? unker mau saya tolong apa?' (here i tot he was asking me to help him on something)
unker:- 'bukan... *pause* um... air bocor'
me:- 'air bocor? unker punya paip pecah?' (me thinking why call me, call plumber la )
unker:- 'bukan. atas *pointing at ceiling* bocor'
me:- (confused, just now say bawah bocor, now atas bocor... )

seeing that im confused, he whipped out his phone, and show me some photo. turns out the water from my toilet is leaking into his unit

so i ask him whether i can look at it (the unit) myself.

me:- 'boleh saya tengok kah?'
unker:- 'tengok?'
me:- 'tengok itu leaking'
unker :- 'tengok itu leaking?'
me:- 'saya mau tengok (pointing at my eyes) itu bocor'
unker:- 'ahh... okok'

we went to his house, i inspect the leaking, and took some picture. while looking around, i ask him
me:- 'unker, u orang malaysia?'
unker:- ya orang malaysia
me:- sudah lama tinggal kl?
unker :- 'tinggal kl?'
me:- gave up trying to speak to unker

this makes me think.. how this unker, cant speak english, barely even understand malay, can live in malaysia for so long? in my line of work, i sometimes meet rural ppl who cant to speak english, or malay, but can at least speak either one of the language. but this is the 1st time i meet someone who struggles with both language

srsly, how this unker survive in malaysia for so long, in the heart of KL sumore? and why he struggles with BM and english? he never went to school?

or hes a PRC?
As a proof that i am not simply opening a racial baiting thread, this is the water leaking photo

This post has been edited by kurangak: Jan 15 2020, 12:30 PM

if he can survive and live in the same building with you. maybe you should self reflect why you can know so much but still live with this kind of sampah??

Prepare to be shoot by chauvinist

u cainis oso?

nope. not chinese. tho ive been mistaken as chinese alot of time, coz the area im currently living is a chinese area.

dun understand

long long time ago, was on a bus returning from hattyai
immegresen stopped the bus. immegressen went around checking passports, stopped on one auntie.
abang immegresen "ah soh, dah makan belum?"
auntie "blank stare"
abang immegresen "ah soh, dah makan belum?"
auntie "blank stare"
abang immegresen "you org malaysia?"
auntie "blank stare"
abang immegresen losing patience "passport?"
auntie hands out passport
then only the companion beside the auntie explained that she don't understand BM

I can see why pasuno so angry

haha, i've encountered similar incidents as well. some chinese auntie talk to me in chinese as tho as i can understand them... while i'm a dark skinned indian. when replied in english or malay they just look confused.

Unker no education ma last time

how they survive?!

dun tell me they never deal with JPJ, or JPN before?

tak faham

Last time not all afford to go to school

but he looks like, 50+ only oh... dun tell me he only live among chinese, never mingles with other race?

My wife kazen, married to sarawak cainis fuchow guy, his mom, although a pure sarawakian, also cant speak a single sentence of malay.

probably org kg belajar sjkc or tak berpelajaran at all but moved to KL to live with his kids lor

unker 20k celeri, #bersangkabaiktaxcontributor

Own neighbour also tak kenal ka. Charsiew neigber

but how come cant even speak at least malay? he only interact with chinese his whole life, never mingles with other races?

This post has been edited by kurangak: Jan 15 2020, 01:22 PM

That's not an excuse for the racist shit that they spew

Look at one up there now

People deal for them

You got to understand, these are kind of like orang Asli of chinese... secluded and cut off from the rest of the world

He try to interact with u but u make fun of him

Probably uncle was born before malaya was given independence b4 british.
Why can't certain rempit speak decent English? Schools in Msia didn't teach?

probably china PRC , buy house with cash. Rich ass buy your life also can.

A lot of Malaysians just mingle in their own community don't say English I know some who can speak anything other than hokkien

Honestly these guys need to learn more

unker how old? If 60s 70s tak pelik la kenot speak other language

uncle dah tua lahh, apa yang dia belajar sudah kasi balik guru dia la. btw how old itu uncle

Quite common

When repairing my car in KL lots of the mechanics (Chinese Malaysians) were almost entirely incomprehensible. thankfully the towkays have passable command of English/ Malay.

Possible Unker never been to school, bear in mind those born in the 60s some even 70s might not have the privilege to go to school.

i suspect prc
but then again i heard from a banker friend a lot of rural chinese especially in sabah sarawak dunno speak malay, even the youngsters. they need to have translators, even if they're born in malaysia.

for indian like us, i think only the super old people dunno speak malay, for the younger and boomer gen i can say that never encountered indian that can't speak malay so far.

im not making fun!! im just wondering, how u live in malaysia for so long, but barely can speak english and malay... if hes early teen or just entering adulthood, i can understand abit la... but 50+ old unker oh!!

u telling me he never speak with other races his whole entire life?

hes not that old... prolly 50+, 60 tops.

that unker also fail english according to TS

You got ask? Manatau muka muda but is actually 80
Orang tua I tak pelik kenot speak melei, orang muda je yang i pelik

It is possible if he came from chinese new settlement. And hardly get educated. My uncles now in their 50s also went to primary school only. Hv to cari makan back then.

yea this is common in borneo

Meet some lot of them in PLKN too. PLKN teachers really frustrated with them as there are no way to communicate. They just sit on the class staring at the air while waiting for the time to pass. my friend that can speak Chinese tell me that they are SJKC drop out, those that placed in the most back class. SJKC teach BM and English but the failed one don't learn anything. It's easy to survive, you can get job easier as long as you are Mandarin speaker. Can works as a waiter, server at Chinese restaurant. Maybe mechanic or any technical work that doesn't require interaction with client.

i suspect that too

sabah sarawak or rural area, i can understand la... but in heart of kl, cant speak english or malay, how he survive? bring translator everywhere?

This post reminds me of Zhuhao daxian (bopi bopi) and Unker kimsim (Benefon)

Mind you, Unker kimsim/Benefon is a businessman in Sinkapork.

Lol, there is such thing called simple sign language. If u order food, can just point and ask Brapa.
No need for complete sentence.
U are telling me rempit never speak with other races as well? Or never learn English in Msian schools?

offer the uncle a malay language class

this will memupuk semangat toleransi di antara kaum

from china country?

A lot of older chinese never have a chance to get educated. They forced to work as a kuli at 11-13 years old. Since their job not required to read write and speak, they eventually become what you met that day. I still met 4-5 people like that during 1990 in my home town (they are in their 30-40's at that moment).

That burn

this is typical for ppl who lives in rumah panjang their whole entire life. close community, minimal interaction with outsiders, understandable la. i oso met a few before.

but how he deal with JPN, JPJ, or any govt body, bring translator everywhere?

so no driving license? correct me if im wrong, JPJ test only conducted in Malay, rite?

Cannot be.

Cainis all highly educated, all stay bungalow, drive Mercedes, pakai rolex.


Those cannot speak cannot bahasa cannot count are PRC or other illegal immigrants.

its possible cos :

1. uneducated
2. they survive by working within their own community
3. staying within same community, no need speak other language/s.
4. all gov and banking stuff, let their kids handle it.


this only happen to the uneducated old generation, probably >60s.

but you asked unker he orng Malaysia

either kena tipu, or you got hearing problem or baru dapat IC lettew

Kalau cakap england pandai, cakap bahasa pandai, kenapa masih kerja kepsi / sm99?



Owai

He didnt go to school. Where do you expect him to learn?
Walk around to any Malay he found on the street, and ask him to conduct Malay class for free?

Ironically even bangla in the same condition. But they interect with the locals and able to pick it up from there slowly building it up

You better worry why your young able bodied countrymen working minimum wage.

chinese ppl and chinese communities in msia long time before 1963 la. TS is the one that is bodoh

malaya ( apa lagi, Sabah and Sarawak) already not homogeneous for at least a hundred years before 1963.

The entire construct would never work properly .

Suro dia nyanyi lagu negaraku

Thats why

Not all C are born rich la.. i know of someone, no car, no motor. work as kuli. send kids to school and thankfully they are successful and able to buy hse for parent.

stop wondering la..in sabah also got chinese like this

your nickname tell me you are sabahan

i lived in a non english speaking country before. so i know the hardship of not understanding anything the natives speak. hence i took the effort of learning their language, at least enough so that so that i can speak my way out if im in a pinch.

sign language can help u to an extent. but what if ure stopped by police, or u need to go to a dr, or explain anything that cant be interpreted using sign language? bring translator everywhere? hard oh...

inward looking... he may be surviving, doubt he is thriving (unless he found a niche business)... but he social mobility is very limited

Tak mungkin la.


Unker pakai honda c70 are also millionaire. Only low profiles.

Last time all English and Chinese Ed.
Chinese is using traditional type sommore and use Taiwan style phonetics.

So how?

What is the purpose of your thread?

these are the old generation, they are mainly from "kampung" and never really go outside the "kampung", yes KL also got a few of these kampung one.
they have everything they need in their kampung dy so never have the chance to mingle with outside, so chance of speaking and listening another language is so rare, no chance to speak, listen and practice, so naturally they are like that.

for those who comment, oh even bangla can learn. omg... bangla came all the way here to make a living, of course they have to learn. these old folks live their life within closed communities since the old days.

This post has been edited by shirley_andy: Jan 15 2020, 12:48 PM

Dude, u probably completed university or college?
That uncle probably didn't even complete secondary school (common those days).

So how do u want to compare? It's like comparing most old people learning smartphones vs younger people.

if this is old uncle, then by right should be able to speak malay or english. i think many older gen can speak malay. i can only deduce this guy is non local or migrate from other country

It can happen. My late mother in law never went to school and could only speak Cantonese. Father in Law did all the non cantonese communication for her.

As a banana this meant I also never really talked to her.

You know when Anthony Loke make PSV exam the one that most failed and complaint the most from which group? That group. Those can understand BM can pass easily. Anthony Loke help them by introducing verbal test for those that failed written BM test more than 3 times.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2019...ion-three-times

If the uncle is driving a proton and you are also driving the same proton model who are you to look down on him or pity his situation. Both of you staying in the same condo and while he cannot speak Malay and you also cannot speak Chinese. Frankly speaking doing business in Malaysia don't require Malay language skills at all. Many people like the uncle has no problem at all being Malaysian. If you do not settle the leakage problem the uncle lawyer will be in touch with you and they are very good in English and Malay lol.

Puting so big

well it might be by choice. in that case, he has to live with the hand he chose.. same with everybody else. if someone chooses to go along a certain to their own detriment... stop blaming others

Shot fired.

how about when they are young? bring translator everywhere?

but in MALAYSIA oh...how he survive? can barely understand malay? if can understand, but hard to string a malay/english sentences, ive met plenty before,

dis one, malay and english can barely understand?

but not to this extent. u live in a country for so long, u gonna pick their language, one way or another..

dis one, english cannot, malay oso struggles to understand...

Inb4 Bangla come here 1 month can speak malay dy

When i live in kl, speak english 99.99% of the time, only go english speaking places

Who is blaming who?


Huh?


No balls to fck ts?

Now you know why some people need tongkat?

these are the type of ppl that lives in their own bubble

thats a different issue altogether

how u know im not irked about that?

yes, i understand that. the one i cant understand, u live for so long in malaysia, still struggles to understand malay, if dunno english, can blame on education, but dun even understand malay, how u survive for so long? why struggles instead of learning the language?

sa tau boss.. banyak kali suda sa jumpa... masalahnya not to this extent...

pls explain to me what hes trying to say

hahah not directed at you la...

ts put up a case with many possibilities why it happen. whatever reason is... you reap what you sow. don't go on blaming others for your predicaments. government may step in to assist on need to basis... but should not tongkat forever

Also same reason why English movies in cinema need Chinese subtitles. Because some Malaysians apparently cant understand English or read Malay subtitles. owai

This post has been edited by cajun2de: Jan 15 2020, 12:54 PM

Well, this kind of people( i mean unker)


Most probably at the bottom layer.


Well, who wouldnt want to be able to be well versed in as many languages as we can, right?


I want to be good at football basketball baseball too.

sharing my exp, and asking view, how he survives for so long in malaysia without understanding malay,..

not everything revolves around racial politic u know

Try kutuk prc or their president. See he triggered onot

^ this

ignorant cunts like ts forgot malaysia only gained independence 62 years ago.

nenek moyang ts pun tak kecoh them dont know malay

this is from that era.

The dark side of the community you never know. Actually a lot of people thinking chinese is very wealthy which was not right. There are many of them poorer than the average poor Malays or Indians. This type of unker is very common. Those I met were work with kedai runcit cina or house builder assistance. For the whole day they only need to listen to the instructions given by the boss or supervisor. They don't need to interact with customer nor writing a reports. They bring their own cook food and water to work strictly no teh tarik session. Teh tarik is kind of luxury and if the boss belanja them to drink, they are willing to work harder, faster even overtime also no problem. Their life is just work-sleep-work, rest only 1-2 days in a month. They sacrificed themselves and all the money saved for their children's education. The younger generation of chinese community mostly don't know about this.

Go out more next time you comeback KK

actually i'm wondering too but fak em

people used to it, they will help just like what you did to that uncle. Thats how it is

u missed the point of my reply

i know the struggles of not understanding the spoken language in my daily life. hence i at least try to learn the basics.

in the end i still struggles to speak, but i at least understand the language,

this unker, live for so long in malaysia, not understanding malay or english, he just tahan with the struggle?

Normal what nowadays. Work and live outside, come home just to shower and sleep where got time to get to know your nieghbour? What more in an apartment building?

Nobody cares.

Some cant even afford to enter public uni.

Their condition much worse than bangla? Damn that saddening

kawan, do u know everybody who lives in ur whole neighbourhood/building?

plus, he didnt live there. im sure coz that unit was empty for a long time. he prolly realised the water was leaking coz hes inspecting the unit, before renting it out or something

You dont need some languages everywhere.


You need money everywhere.

So how poor people survive?????