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how this kind of ppl live in malaysia?
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darkterror15
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Jan 15 2020, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 15 2020, 01:37 PM) yes, can survive, but wont u be struggling? wont suffer if you stay in a majority chinese community. those uncle auntie if older than 50 years old high chances they cant converse well in malay/english. problem is they didnt go to school/didnt finish school because poverty and basically last time government didnt provide free education like now. my mum only manage to finish chinese primary school because need to work and earn money (no child labor law) and that time just after indepedence not long ago. if you are able to go ang mo school you are rich fella back then. my dad didnt finish his HSC but since joining sekolah menengah so no issue with his BM/BI. not everyone has the opportunity to study like every kids now, thats why my mum always ask me to appreciate the opportunity. basically a 24 hours housewive has too little time for themselves. try to find a malaysian chinese at the age of 30 around that, they should be able to converse in BM/BI well.
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darkterror15
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Jan 15 2020, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 15 2020, 01:55 PM) ive met plenty of ppls who cant converse well in BM/BI myself... but to the extent of struggling to understand BM, and cant understand english at all, while living in kl, this is the 1st time... theres plenty of ppl who cant speak malay/english in rural/pedalaman area. eg. ibans in rumah panjang, old murut ppl in kalabakan, ive met them before. but that because little to no interaction with outsiders... but in KL, how did u evade mingling with other race? actually those guys above already explained to you all the possibilities. just that you keep ignoring it. kapitan yap ah loy that open up KL probably didnt even speak a malay/english word but he was still damn rich. in those uncles aunties early years (before independence), BM is not even the official language in malaya. they dont even feel compulsory to learn. just like now you dont speak chinese because it is not compulsory to learn even until now. would you still mingle with ppl that only speak chinese just like back in the days where malay only speak BM ? i dont think so, because you are still not picking up chinese.
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darkterror15
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Jan 15 2020, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Jan 15 2020, 02:10 PM) you are so wrong. in my "condo", there are these bunch of 30+ house wife aunty that can't speak and write malay. all the notice that the condo paste at the notice board keep asking us to translate for them (yes, its them, more than 10 of them at least). during the AGM, they also raise their question in chinese and ask us to translate with the alasan of "cannot speak english and BM well". these are all products of SJKC Foon Yew in JB. regarding education, my mom (this year 60 years old) study until primary 6 only. she study in english medium school back then (convent). She can't speak mandarin and cannot read chinese. but she can speak okay level malay and english. all those chinese centric that can't speak BM and English are all products of SJKC. that is why SJKC/SJKT must be abolished. 1 medium school for all. erm, if those in their 30 are from sjkc then i have bad news for them and the school because sjkc still need take upsr pt3 spm in both bm/bi. probably they are from private school during secondary school? which later on they forget their BM all together? i am also from sjkc but study in sekolah menegah and i have no issue in both BM and BI and in fact i got both a1 for it so whats wrong with sjkc? i only got a2 for chinese. kek
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darkterror15
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Jan 15 2020, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jan 15 2020, 02:13 PM) i can understand if in kampung area, but in kl? u walk ten step already meet ahmad, walk another ten step, u meet raju... idk i just cant imagine someone would self exile himself to his own community just because he lazy want to pick up another language  kl area quite many chinese. plus u walk ten step you meet ahmad will you just simply go have a conversation with ppl ? the most u smile and go only ma. communication is 2 sided you know ? even he want pick another language he still need a willing person to talk to him and correct him. macam ni lah, you become a good neighbour, spend your time to chat with him, teach him like a primary student and maybe in a year or 2 he can finally talk with you in malay. you want the community change ? can, then you have to be part of the change. start with today, find uncle teach him.
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