Anyone going to view your unit tomorrow? If going, can I follow.....thought of looking at the electrical points....i can be contacted @ 016 2151257

This post has been edited by Nuwaira: Feb 20 2009, 04:34 PM

Can i follow too?

Shuji,

Sorry if i ask lame question regarding our new forum web, i still do not know how to post a comment la..bcoz everytime i wana post i need to sign in but using the Gmail account which i don have it..can i still access with my yahoo account? u have added me in group but still i don know..appreciate if u could advice ya..thanx

i talk to the management when i collect the key.the rubbish bin should be inside the main gate column,small one is enougn,he reply it design like that.

for those wanna visit amansiara please bring along your access card and sticker. Coz now the access card start operate ready in the guardhouse. Therefore got Uniform security guards ready in the guard house .happy visit ya.

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Added on February 21, 2009, 10:44 amaugustintan all the management staffs is "bullshit" la always given the answer """ is like that""" , then ask her can reduce the deposit RM3K for renovation she keep answer u is ""like that wo"" management set this rules wo. when the time collect MONEY must 'fast fast' and got due date too . (MONEY EYES) ...If asking about CF: ""she keep answer in progress la ,we already chasing the project side la, what U want me to do for U"" ??? all is shit answer ???

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Added on February 21, 2009, 10:48 ami dont think this rubbish bin is work lo as u know the road is narrow down how to put rubbish bin outside our house , NO BRAIN MANAGEMENT.

This post has been edited by bluesky_king: Feb 21 2009, 10:56 AM

the management should be more professional,should work together with owner to slove problem.got key, no cf,got to pay bank interest.

in future if see any property Project under this developer or their related company sure discourage friends or relative buy their property ..TOTALLY losing CONFIDENCE from this SHIT DEVELOPER

Thats what I have been saying all along...this fxxxking developer should be cursed for 7 keturunan...but seems like there are still many that still think the developer is doing a good job.

We must all stand united and bad mouth this developer since Malaysia property scenario is always not on the buyer side.

Again I curse the directors of this firm to bear children without backsides for 7 generations!!!!!

I rather not curse anybody as we don't know the (specific group of) INDIVIDUALS who made amansiara in such a condition. It wont help either to improve the condition.

Yup many developers in our country is cutting corners here and there. and sometimes condition are even worse (like cracked walls/flooded rooms ). It affect houses of all types .... even Semi-ds and bungalows suffers.

it is impossible to have every single houses built to be free from defect, though. so I shall not curse people behind it (as I dont know its their workers fault/con or subcontractors fault/ or the highest level of people's fault).

And some actually are not their fault. its just lack of foresight by some of us to NOT TO read thoroughtly the SnP, especially the road size. I was paranoid to have read the measurements of roads/rooms in my SnP, before I sign them.


All I know is, when there are problems, FOCUS ON unity and discuss ccordially. there are sure to have solutions. FOCUS ON badmouthing will give us even less time to improve on other important things.

I've been following property discussions in local forums for like 2 years. I was interested to know their "journey" in owning a home, till getting the keys and all. Seems like they are more calm in handling these issues than us. I will learn from them.

(go to realestate.net.my and read the posts/complains there. We are not alone. 90% of developers here are pretty bad.)

Nothing good can come out from angers, except maybe INNOCENT children born without backsides.


Ok.. on a happier note... I drive to the site with my family. We parked outside the guardhouse... then walked in "coolly". the guard didn't stop us. And I've walked all the way to the phase 2 and 3. When we walked down back to the guardhouse, I saw a small sign saying "please register" to enter.

Ok.... seems like cars without sticker/access card CAN DRIVE into the site simply by REGISTERING YOURSELF. And I was so stupid in walking all the way.

This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Feb 21 2009, 04:35 PM

Bro, yes I agree with you that cursing wont helps but it is my right and my way to release my frustration. You may find that you are getting your money worth from this developer but I think most of the owners are not too happy.

I have made my lowest expectation from this developer 3 years ago when I signed for this project and already take the calculated risk into my considerations at that time. But now the outcome is simply too much to bear.

Ya, there are many other projects that are worse than ours and I do feel blessed when my house is completed without the developer running away. But we are paying for something substandard here. Let just focus on our taman and not other failed projects.

And, as the directors of a company, I think it is their duties and responsibilities to make sure their company products and services are consistent with what being promised to the customers. SO THEY ARE OUGHT TO BE CURSED or SUED ( in a more professional manner hahahaha ).

Since you have been reading so much on property ( I do sometimes envy your knowledge on this matter ), what is the percentage that house owners often triumph over those evil developers. From what I knew, there are so much victims out there that simply do not have any means to fight the developers. These evil people most of them just get away with it by just shutting down the company and open another one. Malaysia judiciary system are just not good enough to govern and monitor this matter, there are so much loopholes for the developers to get away.

There will be house buyers everyday and these bad developers will build more houses. For those future buyers, who is going to them to be careful of this kinda developer, if we victims do not go around and tell the world about their wrongdoings to us. You may like your house and recommend this developer to your friends, it is your choice. But I do can badmouth them so they won't be more future victims.

And much have been said on setting up a committee, be united to discuss the problems with the developer..but where is the committee. If I remember correctly, there were some meetings organised but a lot of ppl failed to turn up because of their personal commitments and timing not right. If there is already one, I will be queuing up to become a member of this. Maybe you alanyuppie can be the leader for this group since you have vast knowledge on this, but if I remember correctly again, ppl have voted for you but you just denied the offer.

So now....there is no committee, no leader...so what should we do, everything just falls back to ourselves.

So to those that still have their 'feel good' feeling about their house...go on...continue to be happy. And for those that are 'aligned' with the developer, go on and spread the news on how wonderful this developer is and help them sell more houses ( maybe you guys are related or simply you work for them and camouflage to be a owner just to check on other owners view ) For me, I will continue feel my anger and badmouth them as much as I want.

Note : I have just walked to my unit and found that may car porch is one of those sloppy one...haiiiii....will the developer fix this???

Our main concern is the house is not build according to what we saw in the show house. Can anyone point out which unit build according to the show house design?

Most of the fact actually hide by the sales agent during we bought the unit. And why all of us have the feeling been cheated is when the things happen, either the sales agent and the developer giving us the bad impression during the feedback. We don't know, cannot, wait etc...... is the most frequent word or phase that we hear. How come they can be so not responsible since they build the house? We do not actually expected 100% perfect from the developer, but at lease, at lease bit responsible to the purchaser. For them, 100K++ moght be nothing, but means a lots for us.

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Added on February 21, 2009, 9:50 pmYa, i do agree with you coz at lease our house is completed during this economic time.Somethings to be glad.

Since we drag so long for the committe, and some of us just to be NATO (No action talk only), then why not you lead the committe? I believe many of us will glad if you manage to start first and will join you soon

Sad to hear that... how sloppy is your car porch? have you take any picture to share with us?

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Added on February 21, 2009, 10:00 pmSome information to share.

For the defect issue, developer shd solve it within 30 days, if no respone from developer after 30 days, we can get our own contractor to quote the cost for the defect repearing and submit to the developer. If the developer still no respone after 14 days, you may get the contractor to repair the defect. You may send the invoice to the developer lawyer and cc to developer. The cost will be deduct from the 2.5% that hold by the developer lawyer.

This post has been edited by wkfvenus: Feb 21 2009, 10:00 PM

wah...verg good news la... Betul ke dah boleh masuk tanpa access card/sticker?? boleh le pi tgk esok....

kalau kita marah2 ada pro n cons.
kalau kita take for granted pun ada pro n cons..
so buat comparison which 1 is better for us?
isu yg byk disebut2 ialah :
1)parking ada slope
2)toilet low height
3)some defect
4)design pagar

conth2 tersebut maybe atas kesalahan/kehendak/perancangn/taktik developer.
ia takde ada stated dlm snp.so wat to say..?kalau anggap itu sbg defect boleh buat complain,dev akan reper.

yg penting skg ape yg stated dlm SnP mestilah/wajib ditepati even 1 inch of measurement of yur park.
lagi satu yg problem skg ialah waiting 4 CF, rm3k deposit for renov,dustbin, ini juga kelemahan developer.boleh dipertikaikan..

so ape yg penting skg create a community,someone has to become leader.then another just follow,n discuss..buat havoc kat sini takde benefit ,just provoke je.but u can xpress yur anger if it is benefit 4 us.not for unknown..

I am pretty worry about this forum. It seems like some of us are starting to use profanity. Yes we are not happy with the developer, I have mentioned before and I shall mention it again, we should not fight with the developer for the sake of fighting. The objective of this forum and the committee is to objectively address all issues related to Amansiara. Please do not bring the culture of hatred onto this forum, I for one, do not welcome it.

For those who have come for the first gathering, I believe we all know that we have a group of people who is concern about Amansiara and I strongly believe we will have a committee who is committed to face the developer firmly to resolve matters amicably.

Please bear in mind that we all have our own daily lives to run and to have a leader to lead a committee is just too much to ask. My question would be, when there is a gathering or meetings on matters about Amansiara, will you be there or will you be at home hoping things will work out just right for you.

Alanyuppie, together with some of us here have been feeding the rest will a lot of information, and if you have some information that you can share, just share it. I don't have time reading curses nor condemnations.

Should there be a committee being set up, for those who is not in the committee, remember that the committee is not taking a single cent from you. The work they will be doing would take up their personal time and even money, who knows. For those who is not in the commitee, kindly cooperate and appreciate.

We shall not appoint anyone here, who ever wants to be the committee to address the issues of Amansiara, it will be voluntary. So, if you think you want to contribute your time and knowledge, please volunteer.


Shuji,

thanks for creating the forum. Please kindly add me to the new forum.

my e-mail is .... raytansa@gmail.com

regards.

This post has been edited by silvertron: Feb 22 2009, 04:05 PM

today, i go to amansiara.. boleh masuk, tapi kereta kena park kat luar. boleh pi tgk 2 unit yg kat depan, siap masuk unit tu... ingat nak round jalan pi phase 2, tapi hujan pulak.... kalau tgk keadaan 2 unit tu macam ok, rasa2 tak sabar nak pindah rumah baru... cuma toilet je lah memang low height. lepas ni kalau ada kawan2 @ saudara mara yang tinggi2 datang rumah kena bagi warning awal2. tak boleh angkat gayung tinggi2 masa mandi, ataupun mandi kena duduk...hehe.....

At the moment i think we should all calm down,on the good side the developer did not run away,many owner were disappointed when the completed house not the same as the shown room unit,infact there aredifferent type of unit available for sale like 2 car park with bigger kitcken and the developer overlook a lot of issue with the design ,like dust bin.ground floor flooded back portion.sloping car park,low celing,collecting advance maintenance free.etc.

let hope we have a committlee form to address the problem face by us,some rule can be change to improve the living condition we facing.to be a committle member is not easy job,belive me committlee member have been curse if fault are not retify.

Yesterday i notice water supply already available,but meter not yet connected.let hope for the best we get cf as soon as possible.

hi...is't means that no need to have access card also can enter?

yes, anybody can enter, but must park outside. at guardhouse.

i can imagine, i will be sweating alot if i walk from guard house to my home!

thoseeyes - you r not alone. I have the same problem. Initially I cant even drive my car into the car porch. I posted the pics earlier in this forum. I have already complained and they already rectified it. But it is still too steep. In their mind was just to get the car into the porch. For them problem solved!

This post has been edited by kokiegigit: Feb 23 2009, 04:10 PM