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post Sep 20 2008, 12:30 AM

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Hi Everybody,

Just got to know about this forum from one of my friend which also bought a unit at phase 1. Of course we are 1 of the owner at phase 1 level 3 (end lot).

Would like to join this big family for any info/idea sharing from now on.

We've received the 2g progress billing (drain work) some where end of July, the next will be road work and vacant possession (which is the happy day for us... )rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Is anybody realize that the layout for the end lot is different from others where the kithen is joint with dining area (normal layout is living area joint with dining area). In other words, once you enter yr house , the kicthen will be at yr left hand side while it will be on yr right hand side for end lot (Im not sure abt phase 2 and 3)? In fact we are scratching our heads on how to work out the interior design to make our house looks more spacious. You're welcome to share yr idea if you dun mind.

The other issue is the committed flyover by the developer. So far, phase 1 going to complete estimated end of 2008 or early 2009. I've visited the site 2 weeks ago and no indication on the flyover construction at all. The only things we can see is they have establish a "NICE" U turn at the main road toward to Rawang. Will this be the permanent replacement plan for the developer? rclxub.gif

For those having concern on the common facilities that is not stated in the SPA, a friend of mine told me that we could take legal action on the developer base on their broucher/advertisement during sales launch. There is a success case before. That's why i keep all the broucher with me. But what to worry? We sure have numbers of professional neighbours around us for any advices.

I'll try to bring in more members to this forum and hope that we can setup a strong commitee whenever any major decision need to be discussed and make.

That's all for this time. whistling.gif

Thks and brgds.

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post Oct 1 2008, 09:05 AM

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Hi,

When you guys going to have tt session? sidvig, do you have yr luck on last friday to get us more pictures? brows.gif brows.gif

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post Oct 2 2008, 11:22 PM

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thks for the pic, rayman.

Ya. the size of the tiles as told by the sales rep is 1 sqrfeet X 1 sqrfeet. All those railing that using at anywhere really ugly and lower the standard of the design.

Btw, i saw there some antenna on some of the roof, what kind of antenna is that?

Grd flr that you mention is which level? As i know there only have L1-4.

If the 2 last row do not have any guard house, then where is the entrance for those rows? As i remember thats only entrance for last 2 rows.

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post Oct 6 2008, 10:51 PM

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Hi to all aman siara neighbours,

Phase II and III have a nice view overall, either the railing or the fencing or balcony. So, phase II & III is lucky then us in phase I. why developer not using the same material for all of us?

So far, i monitor few conflict issue in phase I (comparing the pictures and the show unit and explanation by sales rep during the initiate stage).

1. Door for the store room at level 1 and 3 is not the height that we saw at show unit (due to the landing area at level 2 & 4).
2. The high wall that build at the garden in phase 1 (by right the garden is locate between 2 rows just not far from main entrance. But now oni the row near main entrance benefit from it and the other row does not enjoy the garden view)
3. High tention is not ever mention my any sales rep or stated in SAP agreement.
4. Ugly railing.

So far, that's all appear in my mind (i haven't comparing the pic and the SAP in details). Kindly alert me if you all found out anythings miss out. I wonder we can do somethings on all these complains during VP.
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post Oct 12 2008, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(LimauIce @ Oct 10 2008, 11:28 PM)
Hi Amansiara Neighbors,

We all should gather and complaint to Tenaga National regarding the high tension, which should be move inside the forest and not in the resident
area that can danger our live and not safe. We need a strong team. Any better solution ??!! smile.gif
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Actually we get shock when we saw the high tention tower when it was build. We do queston the sales rep and you guess what they told us? They said "We also dunno the high tention tower wil be build as well. Once we open the eyes from sleep, is already there" The sales rep also told us by right there shd be a legal distance (at lease 100m from the nearest house) to build the high tention tower. Is this true? But i do monitor at other place and i think the legal distance do not exist coz some of the area, the tower ad the house just near by. As i know, TNB can build what ever around the residential area before they get CF. What kind of answer is this? Why developer and TNB or MPS never communicate with each other for the development? Purchaser is the victim.

If not mistaken, this issue had been discuss early in this forum, you may refer to it.

Secondly, is regarding the high wall on the garden that cause 1 of the row does not able to have the garden view. We also do question onthis issue and they told us they also feel shock when they saw the wall.

Why even the sales rep also seen like not getting all these info during they sell the house to us or they purposely hide the info from us?

I do hope our situation is not too bad as Selayang Height and developer at lease do what they have promise and not only earn profit from us.

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post Oct 16 2008, 01:46 AM

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Hi All,

For those who wish to start planning their renovation may visit the following url to gain some software that help you to design and visualize the output.

1. http://www.designingonline.com/services/la...ome-design.html
2. http://www.pulsarusa.com
3. http://www.smartdraw.com/specials/home-des...CFQoUbwodBWRNzA

(P/S : I still have no time to test it out the software and pls do share with us if who had try it)


Added on October 16, 2008, 1:54 am
QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Oct 14 2008, 11:58 AM)
Yea. I guess so. Especially the ceiling part. showhouse ceiling is 10 feet++. Ours are less than that.

Dear all. I wonder how long shall we keep discussing here without a proper gathering. It's time to make a move.
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Ya, i do agree with you, alan. We all bought the unit and now is time for us to take a move since we already discussing the issue for so long. We shd form a comittee asap.

For those in this forum, you may nominate your ideal candidate and we may follow the majority. No point we ding dong here and there since VP shd be coming soon for phase 1. We do hope our suggestion will be adopt by the developer since contruction still in progress for phase 2 and 3. Once all the work complete, is hard for us to convience developer to enhance the work.

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post Dec 6 2008, 10:54 AM

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Dear All Lovely AmanSiara Neighbors,

Long time didn't post in this forum due to bz work last few months, but i still giving concerntration to this forum. I'm really glad to see this forum growth and growth, bigger and bigger. Bad comment , good comment, chit chat, suggestion, advice etc... all can find in here for our AmanSiara.

Personally, i do agree up to certain extend on what yeh.babe post in this forum. I'm not a negative person, but what yeh.babe say is a fact and i believe you all can feel it in our amansiara project after you read the comment, saw the pictures post, communicate with the developer etc.. right? So, as other opinion as well, pls stay, yeh.babe (IF YOU STILL HERE). Yr opinion and advice is useful and helpful to us in future. Don't simply give up when you feel we going to face the same things as what you face before and you willing to help. True or false, let's the time to judge.

In other hand, again, myself do agree up to certain extend on what alan had reply. We hard to believe somethings when we not seeing it. But the fact is the pictures tell us a lot. Anywhere, as alan say, we should be more positive and hopefully our amansiara is the best (which is my hope as well).

QUOTE(Re-zal @ Dec 2 2008, 03:48 PM)

Added on December 2, 2008, 3:53 pm
rasanya tu bukan sewege cover...tu mungkin mainhole utk services..mana boleh letak sewege hole kat depan rumah..biasanya mesti di belakang rumah..tak tau la pulak kalau contractor tu bengong...heheh.
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re-zal, thks for your pro knowledge and it help us to have more idea on this issue. But in fact, the dev fully apply it or not is another question. I do reserve my doubt coz in this business world, anythings can happen. Book knowledge is perfect, reality is different.

there is no front or back in amansiara townhouse concept. Front Level 1 & 2 is the back of level 3 & 4. In that case, how you justify front and back?

QUOTE(bluesky_king @ Dec 5 2008, 05:16 PM)
She said the main road construction work  is  under "JKR" but not Wirama, SO ANY body know wat is "JKR" mean ???
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JKR = Jabatan KerjaRaya

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Thks for the pictures post recently. I would like to discuss with you all especially those buying level 1&3 on the kitchen part.

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As you all can see in the above picture, does the the circle things that draw exist? Is this the stairacse to level 2&4?
If so, then i believe all of us will get very very dissapointed. Try imagine, we still need do a partition between living and kitchen, how many space do we have for the entrance to kitche? How about the taller person get enter to the kitchen since the entrance to the kitchen having the staircase just on top? Is very ugly.

I've check the level 2&4 flr plan for phase 1 and phase 2. It show L shape for the staircase. In this case, the circle things that i draw is exist and is the staircase to upper level. It totally not the same with what we saw in the showhouse. The staircase is not the straight but L-shape.

Fyi, the second picture is from alan (comment post in page44). As alan mention, the store room door already shrunk due to the landing area and now the L-shape issue.

Anyone have the advice on this issue?

As a conclusion, even VP time is near, but my advice is not to rush to get yr key. Try have a look of your unit first before proceed. Once you get the key, hard for us to request changes from dev. (Even changes is impossible)

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post Dec 7 2008, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Dec 7 2008, 12:38 PM)
Yea... and due the the L-shaped stairs for L2 and L4... L1 and L3 will have to be build to have lower ceiling leaning towards that storeroom. (see pic below. yes.. i love to analyse whatever resources I have in hand smile.gif.

The floorplan we seen in showhouse were presented in 4 floors/levels/4 different layers, and didn't really "show all" to the buyer what they will expect. note in the pic, the developer didn't render the inner walls to full height  , so we were unable to anticipate what "suprises" are there regarding how they were built.

I don't see there are any way to making that part of the ceiling higher, except hacking off the stairs above.

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For sure we can't do anythings coz dev already do it. And you know we can't hacking off the stairs above. This issue not only lower our store room door but the overall space in our kitchen. I don't think 90% will bought if they saw that design in the show unit. Just have a feeling been cheated.

QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Dec 7 2008, 12:38 PM)
To be honest, I do get chills over the prospect of living in hillside development like amansiara soon, after hearing yet of such landslide cases yesterday. So I did some google Earth-ing to find out more.

Around Klang Valley, there are quite alot of developments and housing area build on hillsides. As the name suggest, this is Klang "Valley". there are many sloped hilly land on outskirts of this city , which are no less "invaded" with new condos/housing areas. Amansiara is "merely" one of the newer ones, built on a fairly new piece of undeveloped hilly forest.

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Could you name out few for us?

QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Dec 7 2008, 12:38 PM)
All these years, there seemed to be cases of landslides concentrated in ampang/bkt antarabangsa area. I believe it must have something to do with over-development of that hill.  In the first page photo of major newspaper covering this case... the affected bungalows are victims of the developments ABOVE it. One way or another, it must have been improperly constructed (poor drainage? ), or simply the soil around them simply can't cope with them anymore. It's not the soil/land on the affected bungalow that eroded. Its the erosion of the soil on the houses built on hill above them... hence making them loose and came tumbling down. its like having your own lawn being dirtied by someone who keeps throwing rubbish from the balcony/floor above you, no matter how clean you try keep it.

One of the ways to reduce the risk of having our beloved homes being hit by landslides, is to try our best to protest against any other new developments above/around us.
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According to newspaper, the actual cause for the landslides is not over development of that hill but is due to the underground water.

QUOTE(yeh.babe @ Nov 26 2008, 01:52 PM)
blk c =lot 24 -37, d = 38-52

anyone buy these range of property? then u hv to be aware, hv u guy suspected anything wrong y other blocks is building up except these 2 blks, that is billing for 2b piling waited for so long? that is bcoz the under grd water, these 2 blk is d blks tat is affected so badly even the architect for d project cant find solution, according to the source, d under grd water is due to when d dev levelling the mountain, the water has been diverted and water need to find place to flow, so d water just simply flow here & there, blk c d, when during piling time, the water simply come out from the grd and even d contractor has tried to suck d water but water keep on flowing out, tat is y d archi is scratching head thinking d solution.


Added on November 26, 2008, 1:56 pmi m not so sure if the archi finally has any solution or they juz simply ignore it, coz my fren is not working for main con so he oso not so sure, but finally d building is up. but wat my fren told me was, if ur hse has under grd water flowing, even with piling oso not that safe (sori, i m not fr construction line, only layman so i hv no comment) i juz telling all of u wat i heard, one fine day the building may sink due to the water kip on flowing, may not by now mayb 5 yrs later or 10 yrs later....scary huh.....

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This wat we worry about. I'm not sure how true that.yehbabe mention, but we must take it into consideration when thinking the safety of the housing. We should clarify with the dev on this and make sure all the precaution had been fully applied. If neccessary, we might get advice from the local authorities to confirm the development is in safety condition.



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post Dec 10 2008, 12:27 AM

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Since we all have so many complain on the dev, let's us compile all the complain for the future use when we need to argue/fight with the dev.

1. No flyover
2. Ugly L-Shaped stairs for L1&L3
3. Ugly partition material
4. Store room had been shrunk

Pls add in if you all got more complain or correct me so that we have a complete complain to be submit to dev (at lease ask for compensation if they not manage to change it)

Some of you guy might say the area is not VP yet, but at lease we can see from the pic that posted in the forum. We just list down the complain (no matter true or false), at lease we can pay more attention on the complain during VP time.

Anybody have frens work in JKR? Maybe can ask them to help us to find out the flyover issue.
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QUOTE(matdeaan @ Jan 2 2009, 10:02 PM)
Hi I'm a new comer...but not really, watching this forum almost everyday for updates....hahaa almost ending story for Phase 1 but be careful,  icon_idea.gif please make sure your Vacant Possession comes with electric and water meter. Once you take up the Vacant Possession, it means you agreed with their term. Please read again your SnP or else we are another victim on new block. Better say sorry now then later.  doh.gif
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Glad to hear that good news. Btw, dun 4got to make sure they have the CF together the keys, else once you get the key and CF is not ready, then you might not able to claim the LAD and you can't do any renovation on the house as well. So, it mean developer sometime will hv VP b4 they get the CF to avoid paying any LAD. REMEMBER that oh...... rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Nuwaira @ Jan 6 2009, 05:03 PM)
Smile,

Yasmin mmg cam tu...dun be too soft on her...I called her several times...If ur soft to her , she will be harsh to you...

so, you have to be firm but at a steady tone..

Smile, I would suggest u go to their office with ur hubby tomorrow...obtain clarification from them on issues that u have in mind...once ur satisfied with their answers ,only then u decide whether to make payment or not
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I do agree with you, Nuwaira. Bare in mind, once you get the key mean you agree with the developer and is useless holding the key and can't do anythings. Worst is you can't get LAD. What for we need the key if we can't move in? Just to see closer? Already wait almost 3 year, why can't wait a bit longer? So, my advice is make the CF issue clear first.

QUOTE(zba @ Jan 6 2009, 06:22 PM)
Hi guys, i received VP this morning, dated 2/1/09. Total i need to pay b4 taken key is RM1271.97. This consist of;

Interest on late payment    rm66.47
Service charge (12 mth + 1 mth deposit)  rm845.00
Sinking fund (anually)  rm78
Fire insurance (1/1/09-31/12/2009)    rm265.54
Quit rent 2009          rm5.37
Assessment 1st half 2009        rm11.59
TOTAL RM 1271.97

But can anyone check back the SnP, coz my one stated that we only need to pay service charge in advance 3 month + 1 month deposit, not 12 month as they ask. dun understand lah this developer, inside SnP already dun want to follow.
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The interest on late payment, we shd take note on this as well. If the payment is make by bank (if you take loan from bank), then shd query why they make payment late and we need to pay the late payment interest. Need to clarify what kind of late payment interest is this.

If you sure the services payment term is already stated in SnP, then you can try to argue with the developer. At lease you get reasonable answer.

Hope to more good news from phase 1 buyer soon..... brows.gif
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jan 7 2009, 12:13 AM)
This is very trick issue. Firstly, clubhouse not even finish constructed. Waiving the first year maintenace fee right now also felt like "cheated". (coz no chance enjoy clubhouse facilities). We should persuade the developer to waive the fee + free access to clubhouse, AS SOON AS the clubhouse is fit to be used, their swimming pool and all.

For those who received the VP letter to get the keys soo, try make apptments at the same day. so you guys can go to wirama office together, and try "make some noise" over the unkept promises. If one or two owners go, sure kena buli like hell.
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For those who going to deal with developer on the VP, kindly help us to check this issue as well. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(icekelvin @ Jan 7 2009, 10:15 AM)
Hi All,

I have just spoken to a lady "Karen" from leadmont. She told if we pay 12 + 1 then only we are entitled for the 1 year free Service charge. That is mean we dont need to pay till 2010, according to her it is a package offer from leadmont. We also can pay 3+1, but no 1 year free.

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That's the Karen said. Is that any black and white mentioned about that? How if next year they charge us again and told is their package, if not pay then can't enjoy the "free" shocking.gif
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QUOTE(icekelvin @ Jan 8 2009, 10:42 AM)
Hi all,

Forgot to mention apart from the clearance letter, sticker and access card i was also given a stack of rules & regulations and sheet of paper showing our main grill pattern. The design really out of date.  vmad.gif

Some of the rules are ridiculous, e.g. cannot change the gate  mad.gif

Btw, i havent finished reading the rules.
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Is that just a general rules? If yes, can you upload the document for us to preview? icon_rolleyes.gif
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wow wow wow....... nice to see all of us is in the same line. sorry guys, i can't join u all coz temp rushing somethings, oni available after cny. remember update us after tomolo visit....

Shafary, i believe everybody unit sure have thier own prob and do mention before in this forum. have u compile and included in yr letter? all of us might need to take some risk if MPS hold for the CF due to this letter. From the dev wanna us to pay 12+1 for maintenance by cash or bankdraft, seem like they hv some prob on their cash flow. try to think extra 9 mth for 1 unit, how much in total...calc is there. But i still agree on yr action..good job, shafary.

For those chinese...

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post Jan 18 2009, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(silvertron @ Jan 17 2009, 11:19 PM)
This is Jalan Amansiara 1/6.

The width of the road is 28 feet. From one gate to the gate on the opposite side of the road is 40 feet. Pretty WIDE!!!!
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The extra row add in seem are lucky cos enjoying 40 feet (2 ways) wide road. But unfortunately, it cause the next road become samller. From the picture, it only 20 feet (1 way). For those who buy that row really a prob to park second car.
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QUOTE(silvertron @ Jan 18 2009, 10:59 AM)
Actually, if you look at the masterplan on the roads, all the width of the roads in Amansiara is correct and almost 95% accurate. It is not because of the additional row that caused Jalan Amansiara 1/5 to be narrower. If you look at the plan again, on the plan itself, it is narrow.
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ya, u're rite, silvertron. i notice also some of the row also having the same size road as well. I believe most of us might overlook this issue as well.

Thks for the pic.
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QUOTE(silvertron @ Jan 18 2009, 12:12 PM)
Jalan Amansiara 1/6 ... Level 2 .... rooms.
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wow..may i know how tall are you? cause you must becareful the height of the entrance. Hv you match all the actual size with the plan?
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any comment from other who join the last saturday gathering?
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QUOTE(bluesky_king @ Jan 21 2009, 01:09 PM)
the MPS said that they still waiting the report from Developer like " "kecerunan of bukit" he said after the Bukit Antarabangsa kes , have to submit alot of document and report to show them the project is under safety status. ......
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Good. Safety is the most important coz i believe all of us will stay there for long long period, rite? rolleyes.gif

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