I see it at another angle, SG can't get any better deal except from Malaysia, reason SG buying from Malaysia because it's cheap.

Take below article for example, about importing chicken egg from my.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...fGO6rrBgN4QYsM4

SG said they can import egg from TH. The things is the market cost for 10 egg in TH is 45 bath = myr 5.77 and the alternative SG is saying is more exspensive than malaysia. That haven't including logistics cost, transporting egg from TH to SG is impossible to be cheaper than transporting from Johor to SG.

You knew it, we knew it. So stop trying to say SG is Malaysia biggest customers. SG had other alternative but why they can't exercise it? So, we push when we can, because you will still buy from us even though we are exerting political pressure on your government. Water deal is coming, I don't see why we need to back down and Singaporean will still buy from Malaysia. Water or farming products or other things for as long as we are cheaper.

China isn't our competitor, they are our trading customers, it's always been like that since years ago, Singapore is our competitors in Malacca strait competing to get China monies. There are resources and technologies which China have and we don't have, but there are nothing that Singapore have which we dont have.

This post has been edited by wanted111who: Mar 3 2019, 08:22 PM

Errr. myr 5.77 is about $1.20 Sg dollars for ten eggs or abt 10 Sg cents per egg. Given their already high income, that is peanuts. Even if it doubles, it is still peanuts. The cost of one miserable cup of coffee in their kopitiam is more than $1.20 Sg dollars.

They may complain. But it doesn't mean they cannot afford it.

This post has been edited by Mai189: Mar 3 2019, 08:25 PM

They can afford it, I didn't say they can't afford it, but why still choosing Malaysia? Because it's better options.

Same goes to water deal, SG can opt for alternatives and not to buy from us. They already found the alternative years ago, they can turn sea waters and waste waters to drinkable waters.
Yet, they dying to protect the MY SG water deal. Why?

You like it or not, water deal is going to be push through, so Singaporean should prepare to pay few cent more for the water they can afford it. Few cent increase of price for a cup of coffee in kopitiam wouldn't kill them. At least the price won't double.

Think it is morally bankrupt of both Dr M n MY media not to mention abt

- 1987 review not done during Dr M's 1st tenure, mayb he forgot?

- SG selling subsidised water to Johor (more than contracted amt)

- SG spent billion of RM on Johor water infrastructure (1st plant aldy handed over in working condition in 2011).

Imagine go to court.

Will judge will look at all the above factors?

very thank you for this 2 info

87 we opt not to renew = we forever no need review? That's more than 30 years ago. And the agreement is 50 years ago.
Morality?

SG selling water back to MY? Good business eh? getting 234 mgd of raw water for free and MY need to pay rm 500 more. The cost of treating water is higher than what SG is selling us? Believe me, we can also treat water in Malaysia at 1/3 the cost of SG.

SG spend billion for water facilities in Johor at the same time getting side contract with petronas? Also who is paying maintainance fees after the facilities is handed to us?

Any experts can explain why our Labuan cant be the marketing arm that books the majority of corporate profits?

Thot it is supposed to be the ultimate or mother of tax haven?

Then you have to stop your trader from buying cheap egg and selling at premiums to get profits, they should get better egg from AU. Or TH since they are selling at higher price.

better ask other...i dont know much about it...mr Artus ...can help to explain...

- if our grandfather sold our land in 1962, can we go back n ask buyer to increase px? Agreement had a 1987 provision for review. We confirm din review liao. Why dun we jux tell the whole world that rule of law has no place in Baru MY n we can suka suka change?

- then wtf is Johor doing since Dr M became PM since 1980s?Depend on assistance fm SG n still bash SG? Do we have shame?

- dun know abt side contract but you can tell us more. SG paid for Johor water infra n you still want them to continue paying for maintenance? Tongkat not enuff? Still want turbo wheel chair?

This post has been edited by ujayucho: Mar 3 2019, 09:12 PM

Can't believe you're actually comparing consumable goods with properties. Do you know that Malaysia didn't sell the river to SG? Our grandfather who once eat rice at few cent sgd is now eating the same rice at 1 dollar, can we go back and ask the Society to sell it at few cent? Why not?

It's not too late, johor can do that now, instead of raw water, why not we sell treated water to SG?

Side contract with petronas? I post the link earlier, go find the link yourself. Very smart, want us to pay maintainance fees for Singaporean benefits, my as well we pay everything and get the water treated here in Malaysia since we aready doing some of it.

Well; logically you will aim for something cheaper of course when say 2 shops sell the same thing.

My point is that the price difference is inconsequential in your telur example. in fact, the ones suffering will be our local egg producers as they will lose Sg customers.

My goodness.. what is a few cents or dollars more to a Singaporean?

This price thing on water has been going on like decades. They are still paying the same price..As I work here, I can say that most sg people simply want to terminate the deal. But Sg government will continue to seek out and maintain the best deal..why not right? win win for SG.

Yes win win, so why is it so difficult to increase the cost from 3 cent myr to 17 cent myr? SG can afford it. MY will be happy and its win win no?

Why keep on protesting it? Just agree with it and move on.

This post has been edited by wanted111who: Mar 3 2019, 09:15 PM

Better Johor/Malaysia gov start to make our own water treatment plant la.. What holding us from doing so??

Sorry, I really dont know how to bridge the logic behind your cranium. The international agreement signed by both countries determined the price to be like so. So why would Sg opt for a price that is even slightly higher? If you haggle over the price of an item, you would naturally aim to maintain the price you want to pay. So Sg will hold on to that price for as long as it can. Who is smiling?

Agreed.

If our flying car YB n our "degree disappeared" MB are fully committed to the cause, think by tmr 5pm, they will hv a Press conference n announce plant ready jor.😀

It's contradicting what you're saying now with your post earlier. So if I understand it correctly, SG can afford to pay more but will not be paying us more because of an agreement made 50 years ago and felt that it is morally right?

Hope SG is in the position to do so, to protect the deal for as long as they can.

Well I do not know what is morally wrong about keeping to your part of the agreement. Lol. Do not listen to Tun too much. Heed my advice. He is an opportunistic politician. May allah and especially the people whom he offended all this while forgive him.

Let's say you rent a room at say 5 myr per day and there is a signed agreement between you and the landlord. Obviously, you will seek to maintain the rent at 5 myr. It is a totally different thing if the landlord inserted a clause stating that the price will go up several months down the road.

yes.

and the fact is that she used the wrong spelling for her name.

the water that SG supplies johor came from johor and never ever left johor. Singapore's PUB just processes the raw water from johor rivers at their plant in johor and piped them straight into SAJ's pipes.