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> Vivian Balakrishnan remarks that Malaysia-, -Singapore water deal is "morally wrong"

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TSzacky chan
post Mar 3 2019, 01:30 AM, updated 7y ago

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what /k think??? hmm.gif


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post Mar 3 2019, 01:35 AM

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perception > everything else.

that's what rakyat really wants.

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post Mar 3 2019, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 3 2019, 01:35 AM)
perception > everything else.

that's what rakyat really wants.
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so....just keep playing game.... hmm.gif
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post Mar 3 2019, 01:45 AM

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i always thought Vivian is a she
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post Mar 3 2019, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Mar 3 2019, 01:30 AM)
what /k think???  hmm.gif


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well he's right.

it is red herring on TDM's part.

and look at his credentials. no fake degree there.

btw, tdm should really ask who benefits from water deal between Singapore and johor.

specifically, how much does the Syarikat air johor (co-owned by ranhill and johor state govt.) make from selling treated water to johoreans and malaccans using water bought from Singapore.

(in case ppl think johor ppl drink Singapore's newater, do understand and realise that all of the water Singapore sold to johor came from johor and never ever left johor)


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post Mar 3 2019, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Mar 3 2019, 01:42 AM)
so....just keep playing game....  hmm.gif
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well rakyat never was serious 100% of the time anyway...
Faidzal
post Mar 3 2019, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Mar 3 2019, 01:45 AM)
i always thought Vivian is a she
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Vivian is for male.

Vivienne is female form of Vivian.

like how Danielle is female form of Daniel.

and so on...
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bullshit

talk about moral when they know they are buying really cheap and unfair price, then wants to hide behind the deal

bullying malaysia while trying to be on high moral ground really makes us puke

This post has been edited by aLittleMisfit: Mar 3 2019, 01:55 AM
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post Mar 3 2019, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 3 2019, 01:45 AM)
well he's right.

it is red herring on TDM's part.

and look at his credentials. no fake degree there.

btw, tdm should really ask who benefits from water deal between Singapore and johor.

specifically, how much does the Syarikat air johor (co-owned by ranhill and johor state govt.) make from selling treated water  to johoreans and malaccans using water bought from Singapore.

(in case ppl think johor ppl drink Singapore's newater, do understand and realise that all of the water Singapore sold to johor came from johor and never ever left johor)
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i see what you did there.... laugh.gif

they able to refute the claim by MY deal so fare and all using knowledge and fact...

i really hope our govt ready a good team to counter them
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Okla, singapore pay rent to johor to balance it


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post Mar 3 2019, 02:01 AM

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Cut the water. Lets fight at ICJ

more fun.
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post Mar 3 2019, 02:24 AM

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singapore is usa/israel proxy
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post Mar 3 2019, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(Feugo @ Mar 3 2019, 02:01 AM)
Cut the water. Lets fight at ICJ

more fun.
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Cannot cut as it seems from the video that Johor is dependent on Singapore to supply 16 +6 million gallons of treated water.

Furthermore, as indicated in the video, if Malaysia increase the price of raw water, what is there to prevent Singapore to jack up the price of treated water to Malaysia? Isn't that stupid?

If die die want to cut water supply, Johoreans also won't have enough treated water, and it will be considered an act of war by Singapore, and Singapore just need to invade and take over Johor, then their natural resources problems will be solved, Malaysia will definitely retaliate, but is that what both countries want?

In the end this water issue benefits no one and is a non-issue that Tun M has played up many times and is very tiring, just move on and focus on other bread and butter issues la...

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post Mar 3 2019, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(weissPC @ Mar 3 2019, 02:30 AM)
Cannot cut as it seems from the video that Johor is dependent on Singapore to supply 16 +6 million gallons of treated water.

Furthermore, as indicated in the video, if Malaysia increase the price of raw water, what is there to prevent Singapore to jack up the price of treated water to Malaysia? Isn't that stupid?

If die die want to cut water supply, Johoreans also won't have enough treated water, and it will be considered an act of war by Singapore, and Singapore just need to invade and take over Johor, then their natural resources problems will be solved, Malaysia will definitely retaliate, but is that what both countries want?

In the end this water issue benefits no one and is a non-issue that Tun M has played up many times and is very tiring, just move on and focus on other bread and butter issues la...
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A lot of the raw water of Johor already diverted to Singapore in the first place so how to produce enough treated water? This agreement, just like the building of the Causeway, was another trick by the British. On the surface, it looked as if both the building of the Causeway and the water agreement would benefit Malaysia but in fact we kena conned left, right and center.


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Meanwhile SG people butthurt their water tariff gonna increase, but cost is still same as 1962 price.
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post Mar 3 2019, 02:48 AM

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He's right in a sense.

Depriving people of water is morally wrong

On the other hand, I can understand that people look at Singapore's prosperity and think that it's time they pay more for water

In fact I would say that a rate hike is a must, to account for inflation

QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 3 2019, 01:45 AM)
(in case ppl think johor ppl drink Singapore's newater, do understand and realise that all of the water Singapore sold to johor came from johor and never ever left johor)
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Most people don't even know Newater is not drank except in times of emergency such as war, normally it's used for lesser industrial purposes

and invented by ex-Malaysian Chinese whistling.gif

QUOTE(Artus @ Mar 3 2019, 02:44 AM)
A lot of the raw water of Johor already diverted to Singapore in the first place so how to produce enough treated water? This agreement, just like the building of the Causeway, was another trick by the British. On the surface, it looked as if both the building of the Causeway and the water agreement would benefit Malaysia but in fact we kena conned left, right and center.
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We can moan endlessly that we kena con

Or we can learn not to kena con

Guess which Msians have been doing for literal centuries rolleyes.gif

But going back to 1962 - well at the time we were so happy that we booted out all the undesirables to a little island, for a long time there was much rejoicing that we had kicked them out

But as we basked in our hubris and lenggang lenggok, people were working hard. Now we dengki and we say we kena con, they steal our land, bla bla

In my life I've watched the island's fortunes grow, from 2.2 to 2.3 to 3.0... in the meantime we are still stuck where we are

How much longer are we going to bitch and moan? When will we get down to business?

This post has been edited by agent sawyer: Mar 3 2019, 02:54 AM
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post Mar 3 2019, 02:52 AM

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QUOTE(agent sawyer @ Mar 3 2019, 02:48 AM)
Most people don't even know Newater is not drank except in times of emergency such as war, normally it's used for lesser industrial purposes

and invented by ex-Malaysian Chinese whistling.gif
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Hyflux is in deep financial trouble.


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QUOTE(Artus @ Mar 3 2019, 02:52 AM)
Hyflux is in deep financial trouble.
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I know
1 of these days I'll go down and find my Hyflux contact, ask him what the hell happened

Singkies also get complacent, not just us. But their previous hard work gives them the safety net to rebound. Whereas we are constantly toeing the line...
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 3 2019, 01:45 AM)
well he's right.

it is red herring on TDM's part.

and look at his credentials. no fake degree there.

btw, tdm should really ask who benefits from water deal between Singapore and johor.

specifically, how much does the Syarikat air johor (co-owned by ranhill and johor state govt.) make from selling treated water  to johoreans and malaccans using water bought from Singapore.

(in case ppl think johor ppl drink Singapore's newater, do understand and realise that all of the water Singapore sold to johor came from johor and never ever left johor)
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see how civilised them in the august house



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