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> Vivian Balakrishnan remarks that Malaysia-, -Singapore water deal is "morally wrong"

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SUSujayucho
post Mar 3 2019, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(mleemlee232 @ Mar 3 2019, 04:54 PM)
I find it strange that Malaysia media kiasu kiasi dont dare to report SG had invested billions of RM in Johor-owned Lingui dam which was handed over in 2011, upon expiry of 1st H2O agreemwent.

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Think it is morally bankrupt of both Dr M n MY media not to mention abt

- 1987 review not done during Dr M's 1st tenure, mayb he forgot?

- SG selling subsidised water to Johor (more than contracted amt)

- SG spent billion of RM on Johor water infrastructure (1st plant aldy handed over in working condition in 2011).

Imagine go to court.

Will judge will look at all the above factors?
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post Mar 3 2019, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Mar 3 2019, 08:49 PM)
87 we opt not to renew = we forever no need review? That's more than 30 years ago. And the agreement is 50 years ago.
Morality? No

SG selling water back to MY? Good business eh? getting 234 mgd of raw water for free and MY need to pay rm 500 more. The cost of treating water is higher than what SG is selling us? Believe me, we can also treat water in Malaysia at 1/3 the cost of SG.

SG spend billion for water facilities in Johor at the same time getting side contract with petronas?  Also who is paying maintainance fees after the facilities is handed to us?
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- if our grandfather sold our land in 1962, can we go back n ask buyer to increase px? Agreement had a 1987 provision for review. We confirm din review liao. Why dun we jux tell the whole world that rule of law has no place in Baru MY n we can suka suka change?

- then wtf is Johor doing since Dr M became PM since 1980s?Depend on assistance fm SG n still bash SG? Do we have shame?

- dun know abt side contract but you can tell us more. SG paid for Johor water infra n you still want them to continue paying for maintenance? Tongkat not enuff? Still want turbo wheel chair?

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post Mar 3 2019, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Mar 3 2019, 10:09 PM)
Tun isn't going to live forever, but the water deal will laugh.gif  and an agreement without exit clause, without price increments/adjustment due inflation, without clause to renegotiate, is it still applicable in today's agreement standard? Is it morally right? What so if one of the direct party is not happy with the agreement.

Don't misunderstand what I mean, we aren't asking for things which aren't us, we are just asking for things which we deserves.

Let say you're the landlord, are you going to rent the room at 5 myr for 10 years? 20 years? 50 years? You know it's impossible right? We arent asking for 1 dollar, just 14 cent myr and you admit that SG can very well afford it.

I think we should put a stop on SG leeching on MY resources to make themselves wealthier. From manpower, raw resources to controlling Malacca Strait.
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But there was a 1987 provision for price review n none other than Dr M himself chose not to review😡 the reason is because SG paid hundreds of million of dollars to build water treatment plant.

Alot of Malaysians dun know abt this as Dr M n MY media kept radio silence over this. I hope i m not leaking state secrets😟

Imagine if we go to court, judge will surely look at the SG investment cost as a factor to consider. But in any case, we lost our right to review in 1987 liao😡

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post Mar 3 2019, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Mar 3 2019, 10:30 PM)
1987 is 30 years ago, who's paying the maintainance for the plant? Also we didn't charge SG the cost of treated water since they help with water treatment plant. We are selling as raw waters for 30 years since 87 no?
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SG paying maintenance costs for the plant that supplied treated water to Johor since 1987.

Thot it is clear that SG is subsiding Johor. Thats why Johor continue to rely on SG. johor din hv to lift a finger n treated water will be sold at 50 sen to them (when actual cost is S$2.40) n above contracted quantity in the agreement.

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