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 LYN Official FIA F1 World Championship Thread V2, USA GP Live on RTM

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post Jun 12 2007, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 12 2007, 12:08 AM)
Hmm, reminds me of Schumacher during his younger days. He always makes mistakes, but was fast enough to win the championship with Benneton. He was even still rough around the edges during his initial years at Ferrari, losing the championship to Damon, Jaques and Mika because of some stupid errors. But ppl never remember him for that, they still remember him as a 7 time world champion. But hey, like you said, mistakes are mistake.
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Its the same for everyone. Alonso would still be remembered as the driver who won 2 world champions with Renault, and for all other championship that he will win in the future. When schumi drove into Jaques, it was an unforgivable mistake that none of his fans can defend, and I'm sure whichever team he was driving for, their fans didn't like like it either.

But now is now. If those mistakes were left unacknowledged by the driver them self, it could harm the driver himself. Massa should not have shown the thumbs down either, it was totally his own fault.

I mean, bad mistake should not be defended too much, heh.
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post Jun 12 2007, 05:42 AM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 12 2007, 12:08 AM)
Hmm, reminds me of Schumacher during his younger days. He always makes mistakes, but was fast enough to win the championship with Benneton. He was even still rough around the edges during his initial years at Ferrari, losing the championship to Damon, Jaques and Mika because of some stupid errors. But ppl never remember him for that, they still remember him as a 7 time world champion. But hey, like you said, mistakes are mistake.
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He lost to Damon mainly because of dog of a car I believe

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post Jun 12 2007, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ Jun 12 2007, 05:42 AM)
He lost to Damon mainly because of dog of a car I believe
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Actually he was banned at the Belgian GP in 1996 because he disobeyed the Stewards at the British GP. Thus giving Damon the chance to close the gap.
For Massa, it might have been his fault, but there are some more incident that the Stewards left out
- Taku going in the pit when it was closed
- Kimi jumping Liuzzi/Trulli jumping Kubica in outside teh pit because both cars stopped at the red light
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post Jun 12 2007, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Hornet @ Jun 12 2007, 01:53 AM)
Massa should not have shown the thumbs down either, it was totally his own fault.

I mean, bad mistake should not be defended too much, heh.
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when i watched his gesture....i thought he was showing d thumb-down for himself 4 getting disqualified......not towards anybody else....tat's how i felt it
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post Jun 12 2007, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Jun 12 2007, 10:24 AM)
when i watched his gesture....i thought he was showing d thumb-down for himself 4 getting disqualified......not towards anybody else....tat's how i felt it
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or maybe massa is blaming the safety car?
or blaming the race director for closing the pit exit?
or blaming his own team for not informing him on the radio?

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post Jun 12 2007, 11:25 AM

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rules are rules... izit possible not to notice the lights before driving out the pitlane???
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post Jun 12 2007, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Jun 12 2007, 11:25 AM)
rules are rules... izit possible not to notice the lights before driving out the pitlane???
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but massa oso did not complaint anything....ferrari juz accept d fact
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post Jun 12 2007, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Jun 11 2007, 11:58 PM)
Kubica's alright, no broken leg.
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he will race at US???or replace by Vettel
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jun 12 2007, 11:28 AM)
he will race at US???or replace by Vettel
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by suffering d coccusion....i think he will b rest
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I dont understand why Apelonso still have this kind of thinking.. and still keep saying this kind of thing... this doesn't help him @ all...

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...611165432.shtml
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 12 2007, 11:47 AM)
I dont understand why Apelonso still have this kind of thinking.. and still keep saying this kind of thing...  this doesn't help him @ all... 

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...611165432.shtml
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Alonso say that bcoz Lewis is lucky with his fuel strategy,if Lewis first stint fuel like Alonso,he will get penalty too,Alonso had no choice,he must come to pit to fuel-in,that why Ron Dennis blame GPDA for safety car laws which driver not allowed stop when safety car come out until all race car line-up behind safety car,innocent driver will get penalty in this situation,the first safety car only give advantage to who had already made a stop which is Nick and Lewis

Other than that,Lewis had other luck when his tyre very comfortable in first and second stint,Lewis`s tyre also get better grip than Alonso at last stint
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Jun 12 2007, 11:27 AM)
but massa oso did not complaint anything....ferrari juz accept d fact
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no laa.. not they not complaining,its just the press think its not a hot story to put in their news tongue.gif

before this we heard that sooner or later hamster will get his first pole n his first win..he got it already...but,sooner or later he will also get his unlucky race,its just a matter of time tongue.gif

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 12 2007, 11:47 AM)
I dont understand why Apelonso still have this kind of thinking.. and still keep saying this kind of thing...  this doesn't help him @ all... 

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...611165432.shtml
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I wish to hear his explanation on the 1st corner when he went to the grass.
If he stayed behind Lewis, he might stand a chance for the lead.
Anyways, I got my answer what McLaren will do when they're 1-2 on the starting grid.

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 12 2007, 11:47 AM)
I dont understand why Apelonso still have this kind of thinking.. and still keep saying this kind of thing...  this doesn't help him @ all... 

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...611165432.shtml
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More him acknowledging that Lewis is his main rival rather than the two Ferraris this season.

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but massa oso did not complaint anything....ferrari juz accept d fact

What's more to complain. The Ferrari was not at fault. It's the driver's responsibility to see the red light. Nothing the team can do as they don't know themselves wether the pit lane exit (not entry mind you) was open or closed.

Taken from F1 rulebook
- The pit lane exit will be closed when the Safety Car is near or approaching the pit lane
- The pitlane entry will be open during that time
- Cars that are following the safety car can pit at that time
- Cars already in the pit will have to wait until the pit lane exit is reopened again
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Jun 12 2007, 11:38 AM)
by suffering d coccusion....i think he will b rest
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he was just suffered a sprained ankle,i think he will able to race at indianapolis,because his first question to his docs "Will I be able to race in Indianapolis next Sunday?"
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Wait till thursday. But I doubt it.
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post Jun 12 2007, 04:23 PM

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Did you guys see the close up shot of Kubica hitting the wall? The front part of the car was totally destroyed till it exposed both his foot and the pedals
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Jun 12 2007, 04:23 PM)
Did you guys see the close up shot of Kubica hitting the wall? The front part of the car was totally destroyed till it exposed both his foot and the pedals
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Nope, where is it?
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Google for Zanardi Crash. You can see his leg spewing blood

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