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edison92133
post Jun 9 2007, 01:19 PM

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wa seh, finally can listen to martin bundle & james allen live on qualifying & the race thumbup.gif

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post Jun 10 2007, 01:44 AM

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mclaren is flying again, can some stop them at Q3 later ?

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post Jun 10 2007, 02:07 AM

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heildfied finally spoil ferrari party with a superb performance during Q3

anyway, congraz hamilton, for now, mclaren duo are comfirm untouchable

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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Jun 10 2007, 02:07 AM)
just finish watching the delay RTM 2
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its live la

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post Jun 10 2007, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Jun 10 2007, 11:49 AM)
I wonder what's Ferarri's strategy this time..................
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since they dun have the speed, try to be heavy fuel, make some good stint before the 1st pit stop window, try to go as far as possible and hopefully the traffic wont be a disaster for them...

there is still a chance to finish 3-4

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post Jun 11 2007, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(606088 @ Jun 11 2007, 04:53 PM)
any latest news bout Kubica condition?
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guess his injury was just minor

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...611094449.shtml

Kubica set to leave hospital
BMW driver suffering no serious injury


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The latest news from Montreal is that Robert Kubica will leave a downtown hospital on Monday - with no broken bones.

Contrary to earlier reports that said the 22-year-old Pole had broken a leg in his horror 280kph crash in the Canadian Grand Prix, BMW-Sauber team boss Mario Theissen confirmed that Kubica is actually fully intact.

He told Sport-Informations-Dienst that suspicions of a broken leg were not confirmed after thorough checks at the Sacre-Coeur hospital.

"I am really very relieved," Theissen said, although it must be a possibility that Kubica - who was knocked unconscious in the incident - will be replaced by either test driver Sebastian Vettel or Timo Glock for the upcoming US GP this weekend.

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post Jun 12 2007, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Jun 12 2007, 10:24 AM)
when i watched his gesture....i thought he was showing d thumb-down for himself 4 getting disqualified......not towards anybody else....tat's how i felt it
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or maybe massa is blaming the safety car?
or blaming the race director for closing the pit exit?
or blaming his own team for not informing him on the radio?

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post Jul 7 2007, 09:18 PM

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Q3

1. Hamilton
2. Kimi
3. Alonso
4. Massa
5. Kubica

haha, so happy hamilton in front of alonso again

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post Jul 7 2007, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(unknown @ Jul 7 2007, 09:20 PM)
I'm happy too because in front both Ferrari  laugh.gif
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lets wait for the press conference, sell alonso will say what.... haha

even kimi eat sand during the end of his lap still can ended in front of alonso, not bad huh kimi

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post Jul 15 2007, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(advanced @ Jul 15 2007, 02:36 AM)
That punishment is too harsh for his fault
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except maybe he tell everything out to the FIA & the press

i still remember when BAR was caught cheating by racing under weight car, terus kena points penalty & ban for 2 race

now this case have involve the police & court plus the FIA has a history for not showing any mercy for cheating cases, good luck mclaren

D-Day for mclaren - July 26

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post Jul 15 2007, 09:19 PM

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latest about the spy scandal.... brows.gif


http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...715140554.shtml

McLaren knowledge may spell disaster for team
Even clarification questions are under scrutiny


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At the specially-convened meeting of F1's World Council later this month, the FIA will ask McLaren how long suspended designer Mike Coughlan had in his possession confidential Ferrari information -- and how many colleagues he told.

As the media speculates as to how the powerful governing body will react to the tale of espionage, it has emerged that FIA sources believe Coughlan may have had the 780-pages of sensitive material since the beginning of the season.

Ferrari's Italian lawyers, meanwhile, also believe that McLaren Managing Director Jonathan Neale, who reports to Martin Whitmarsh and Ron Dennis, knew about Coughlan's possession of the dossier, as well as possibly some others.

It would, for example, answer the question as to why McLaren sought clarification on the rules for moveable floors earlier this year -- a perfectly legitimate enquiry that genuinely impacted title rival Ferrari's pace when it had to alter the underbody design of the F2007 racer.

It must be said that such clarifications are often requested by teams during any season. Last year, Renault went through the same process when the FIA decided that its mass-damper system had to be outlawed, a decision which cost the French team in overall speed before other modifications improved its pace.
This year, the FIA hardened its testing process when it was reported that certain teams were using flexible parts on their wings.

It remains however that McLaren's moveable floors question is among about 30 others that the FIA has compiled ahead of the meeting in Paris on July 26. Interestingly, it is believed that the governing body completed its list of questions, probing McLaren's affairs for the period March-July, only after reportedly viewing Coughlan's sworn affidavit outlining his knowledge of the affair.

An FIA spokesman reinforced the seriousness of the looming summit, which could result in hefty penalties for McLaren, including total exclusion from the Wworld Championship.

He said: "We don't call an emergency meeting of the World Motor Sport Council lightly."

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post Jul 16 2007, 05:39 PM

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http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...716095101.shtml

Coughlan admits telling others about secrets
Still no confirmation of the source


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Mike Coughlan has sworn in his affidavit that he told several fellow McLaren employees about his possession of reams of secret Ferrari material.

Italian newspaper La Repubblica reproduced excerpts of the document, which as part of a private agreement with Ferrari cannot be used by Italian prosecutors in a case against the suspended engineer.

But, if it is the truth, the signs are not good for Woking based McLaren, which has so far insisted that only chief designer Coughlan knew about the sensitive information that was in his possession earlier this year.

"It's true," Coughlan reportedly wrote in his sworn statement. "I had all the designs.

"It was my responsibility. I showed those designs to McLaren and not just to (Managing Director) Jonathan Neale but to others as well.


"Everyone reacted the same way and told me to get rid of them."

At an emergency World Council meeting later in July, the FIA will question McLaren about its involvement in the espionage saga. Possible sanctions range from docked points and race bans to total exclusion from the world championship.

Coughlan did not confirm that Ferrari's Nigel Stepney sent him the material, explaining that he received the package from a courier mail service.

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is this the truth ?

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post Jul 17 2007, 03:08 AM

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mclaren so call own investigation to defend? whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif


http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...716184045.shtml

McLaren clarify position - Statement
Deny prior knowledge of Ferrari materials

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McLaren is concerned that erroneous speculation has arisen from inaccurate and misleading reference to the contents of confidential legal papers filed at court in response to Ferrari's UK action to recover its intellectual property. This is unfortunate and is prejudicial to a fair interpretation of these matters.

McLaren can confirm from its own investigation that no Ferrari materials or data are or have ever been in the possession of any McLaren employee other than the individual sued by Ferrari. The fact that he held at his home unsolicited materials from Ferrari was not known to any other member of the team prior to the 3rd July 2007.

Furthermore, McLaren has categorically established that no Ferrari information has at any stage been used to develop its car.

McLaren looks forward to having the opportunity to present the complete and accurate picture of events in the appropriate forum, that is before the FIA World Motor Sport Council in Paris on 26th July 2007.

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http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...716165444.shtml

Stepney to hit back at Ferrari?
Claims harassment and stalking

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Nigel Stepney is now threatening to sue Ferrari for so-called mafia-like behaviour. Stepney, who triggered Formula One's espionage scandal by allegedly tampering with fuel tanks and sending reams of secret material to a rival, told the Observer newspaper earlier this month that he had to flee Italy because he feared for his family's life.

"There have been high-speed car chases," claimed the beleaguered Briton, who has a one-year-old child with his partner Ash.

Stepney, facing criminal charges, also said Ash had been 'stalked at (our) house' and had identified 'tracking gear' on their car.

His lawyer Sonia Bartolini told the Italian newspaper La Repubblica on Monday: "Obviously, if it is confirmed that Ferrari are behind this, it would be very serious. If that was the case, the Maranello people will be called to answer for it in court."

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sounds like a british m-16 agent vs terrorist - those we saw in james bond film laugh.gif
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post Jul 17 2007, 09:08 PM

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mclaren paid stepney for ferrari secret info?

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http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...717104538.shtml

Was Stepney paid for Ferrari secrets?
Intrigue and more media leaks in Italy

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The criminal case against alleged Formula One conspirator Nigel Stepney has continued to exacerbate.

Reports now suggest that Italian prosecutors, investigating Michael Schumacher's sacked former mechanic for espionage and sabotage, believe that Stepney may have received payments from McLaren for the nearly 800-pages of secret Ferrari material.

Britain's Daily Mail reported on Monday that Italian police 'were trawling through (Stepney's) bank accounts' in Italy and the UK.

Previously, it was understood that Stepney had sent the reams of sensitive information to McLaren's Mike Coughlan because they were attempting to bolster their knowledge before defecting to Honda.

Meanwhile, La Gazzetta dello Sport has published more detail about the supposed contents of the package sent by Stepney.

As well as car and component blueprints was Grand Prix data, telemetry as recent as from races this year, and information about the F2007's tyre behaviour, engine management, and much more.

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post Jul 21 2007, 11:48 AM

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astro also delay for some lala asian football

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post Jul 22 2007, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jul 22 2007, 02:10 AM)
I watched TV2 one (as usual getting sick of Allen's praises on you know who)
You guys?
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i also watched tv2 qualifying at midnight, the screen seems weird a bit, like being stretch too much whistling.gif

anyway, good to see finally alonso has lost his cool by making a mistake during Q3 at his final run for pole, waiting to see will alonso make any comment on lewis accident

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post Jul 23 2007, 11:09 AM

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next race at hungaroring will be an interesting one, want to see hamilton get back at alonso or can alonso defend off this amazing rookie and what will massa do....

massa + hamilton vs alonso, haha, 2 against 1, not bad, hehehehe

kimi - bad luck again

bmw - bad luck also, get stuck behind those slow red bull

D-Day - 26 July.... lets wait & see how will the FIA react this time

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post Jul 23 2007, 11:09 PM

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real version of the argument ?

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http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...723154720.shtml

Italy scolds Massa for foul-mouthed attack
Suggestion of driving lessons for Alonso


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Italy's fickle but usually patriotic press has sided with Fernando Alonso after the European Grand Prix.

The Spaniard beat Ferrari's Felipe Massa to the flag at the Nurburgring after a late wheel-banging dice, earning the description 'Super Alonso' in the famous sports daily La Gazzetta dello Sport.

"Super Alonso gives Massa a lesson," said the publication, also rebuking Massa for reacting badly to McLaren driver Alonso's surly word to the Brazilian as they waited to mount the podium.

Massa, in Italian, angrily hit back at Alonso, who had accused him of deliberately making contact with his McLaren's left sidepod in the scrap for the win.

Several publications printed transcripts of their verbal quarrel, in which Massa told Alonso to "f--k off."

He said: "You have got to learn how to f--king drive properly."


La Gazzetta dello Sport observed: "No one can justify (Massa's) exaggerated reaction to Alonso's criticism.
Without his problems with the tyres, he probably could have held Alonso off, but one has to say that in the rain he is not the best."

After getting out of his McLaren Mercedes at the end of the race, Alonso had asked the live TV cameraman to move closer as he pointed towards the damage inflicted to the side of his car by Massa's contact.

Alonso then waved a finger back and forth as if to say 'you shouldn't do that,' a gesture directly aimed at his rival, which surely fired up Massa's subsequent bad temper and led to the verbal scuffle right before the podium ceremony.

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post Jul 23 2007, 11:42 PM

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here comes the updated version:

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...723165104.shtml

Tempers flared at the Nürburgring
But it's all settled now


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According to Agence France-Presse, European Grand Prix winner Fernando Alonso accused Felipe Massa of deliberately hitting his car during the duel that opposed both drivers at the end of Sunday's race on the Nürburgring track.

A few minutes before the traditional ceremony, Ferrari's Felipe Massa approached McLaren's Fernando Alonso and shook his hand in the room adjacent to the podium. The folllowing conversation ensued in Italian.

FA: "You can't do things like that."

FM : "What are you talking about?"

FA: "Don't play smart with me, you know very well. You hit me on purpose, you turned the wheel to push me off."

FM : "What? Go f--k yourself!"

FA : "You f--k off! Next time I'll push you into the wall."


Alonso, decidely in a provocative mood, turned and smiled at the live TV camera as Massa walked away very upset, his dark mood still quite apparent during the podium ceremony.

Once tempers had calmed down as the post-race FIA press conference began, Fernando Alonso admitted that he had over-reacted.

"We touched each other two times and I apologise to him (Massa) because I was so stressed when I finished the race because we nearly didn't finish the race. Now I try to enjoy the victory and forget everything," the Spaniard said as he sat next to Massa, quickly touching his neighbour's forearm in a friendlier gesture.

The Brazilian was still somewhat flared however: "I was really surprised when he came to say that I did that on purpose.

I would never do something like that on purpose. Like I said in Barcelona, it was normal, here it was normal and it's going to be like that. So if he was a little bit unhappy, it's not my problem."

"With Felipe at the end it was close but as I said before, I apologise if I said anything to him, because it's motor racing and it's a fight," added Alonso.

"We finished the race, so I don't want to talk any more about this and I want to enjoy the win," he stated, wishing to close the matter.

Prompted by the assembled journalists, Alonso returned to the delicate subject a few minutes later.

"I was not too happy at the end of the race because we touched each other but now, five minutes later on the podium I realised that this is motor racing, so I will not talk any more," he repeated.

The subject seemed to be closed for Massa also: "If somebody tells me something I did wrong and I didn't, I will be unhappy. That is normal. But if he has apologized, then that's fine. He knows he was not right after the race."

Bad tempers and apologies - on certain occasions, both are a part of motorsports...

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seems like its the ape that attack massa first with those harsh words, so massa defend himself, normal what.... whistling.gif

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post Jul 24 2007, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Jul 24 2007, 06:16 PM)
i wonder  hmm.gif , why kimi car always got problem one? while massa is ok all the time.
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maybe the car massa is driving is suitable for his driving style

kimi just 1st season at ferrari, maybe those engineers at ferrari dun understand well enough yet kimi style & preferences

but both alonso & hamilton also 1st season at mclaren but their cars so far have a stable reliability

nvm about it, lets see will the FIA punish mclaren for suspected cheating & copying ferrari car patterns in the next few days

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