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post May 18 2007, 09:18 AM, updated 19y ago

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Xbox LIVE security
As you can imagine, we have a zero-tolerance policy when it comes to modded consoles connecting to LIVE.

We're very serious about this, and if we detect you have a modded Xbox then you will not be able to connect to Xbox Live. If you see this screen and get Status Code: Z: 8015 - 190D...that means your console has been banned.

We'll continue to enforce this rule to ensure the integrity of the service and protect our partners and users.

To the members of our community who play by the rules, thanks and we'll see you on LIVE.

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Keeping Xbox LIVE Fair
One of the great things about LIVE and the unified community is that we work hard to create a level playing field for all gamers and have a no tolerance policy towards inappropriate behavior like hacking or cheating. As part of our commitment to our members, we do not allow people that we have detected to have modified their console to connect to LIVE. This is an important part of our efforts to try and maintain a fair gaming environment for the large majority of gamers that play by the rules. This topic is more important than ever given the recent release of the Halo 3 beta. As a result, some consumers that try to login to LIVE who we detect have illegally modified their console will get an error code (Status Code: Z: 8015 - 190D) when trying to connect to the service. These users will not have their account automatically banned from LIVE, but they will no longer be able to access the service from the console they modified.

We have stated in the past that customers can only enjoy access to the Xbox LIVE community through the use of a genuine, unmodified, Xbox console and we will continue to enforce this rule to ensure the integrity of our service, the protection of our partners and the benefits of our users.

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post May 18 2007, 09:30 AM

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haha ..ban mod console, that means it is useless if u buy a original games with a md console , still get banned ~!!

heard of some non modded console also being banned , so we are in danger also ?if ms rongly banned , can claim ??

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Hahaha~ NO LIVE~ NO LIFE !!!
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QUOTE(spidercat @ May 18 2007, 09:30 AM)
haha ..ban mod console, that means it is useless if u buy a original games with a md console , still get banned ~!!
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Yeap, most of the modded console user know the risk anyways tongue.gif

Like someone said last time, playing 360 games without live is like masturbating, syok sendiri only laugh.gif
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Just remember not to buy any more 2nd hand xbox 360s cause you never know if they've been banned or not!
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QUOTE(spidercat @ May 18 2007, 09:30 AM)
haha ..ban mod console, that means it is useless if u buy a original games with a md console , still get banned ~!!

heard of some non modded console also being banned , so we are in danger also ?if ms rongly banned , can claim ??
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Those are without proof, just words. So until it's proven, it's mostly those who flashback to original firmware but still get ban. (probably Microsoft got it on their database all along)

Last time i also act innocent when i get ban, telling MS this & that...doesn't work tongue.gif

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another silent tactics to pinned down ps3 owners?
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walaweii... betul ke nie?? hmmm better not mod la....
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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam2 @ May 18 2007, 09:38 AM)
another silent tactics to pinned down ps3 owners?
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????? What has ps3 goto do with this?
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post May 18 2007, 09:48 AM

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Hrmm the ban hammer came out earlier than expected..

Or did it coincide with the release of Halo 3 beta..hmm
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QUOTE(zio @ May 18 2007, 09:48 AM)
Hrmm the ban hammer came out earlier than expected..

Or did it coincide with the release of Halo 3 beta..hmm
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because of halo3 beta... smile.gif
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yeah , so far user complain get banned only with playing halo3 demo with mod console and its almost all from US ..
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According to Xbox-scene some don't play halo 3 beta also get ban.

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With the amount of posts we see on our forums ... it's clear, Microsoft decided to start banning Xbox360 with modified firmwares today (both Hitachi-LG and Toshiba-Samsung drives).
While it's the same release date as Halo3 beta, it seems that people who didn't download Halo3 also get banned. They probably detect backup discs (and not the modified firmware) when you play 'em online (not confirmed yet).
Even people using the new firmwares with disc-jitter added get banned, so it looks like Microsoft found another way to detect it.
Just like on Xbox1 it looks like Microsoft bans the console unique ID (serial), not the LIVE user. Microsoft will not allow anyone to login on LIVE on a banned console.

So i guess it's just like Xbox 1, if you play using original you might be able to get away with it (xbox 1 with modchip off)
Also the banning, they ban the console ID, not the Live acc.
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So.. anyone here with modded console care to try going online now?
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wow... does anyone say unmodded also in danger....
sometimes they do ban unmodded console also..
hmmm how leh then???
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If u didn't buy your console 2nd hand, and the seller didn't lie to you that the console is unmodded you shouldn't worry about it.
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i duno..
my console is 1.5 hand...
as that user got is as a lucky draw prize... he haven try to yet though
according to my fren, whom help me to tested it said the box still sealed when he try it...

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Now this time go serious no ?
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takpe, just buy another 360 to play ori. keep another one to play ahem. err... i mean, keep another one for your little brother.
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it's finally happened. any of our live modded buddies encounter this already? can they confirm this is in effect?
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I'm modded, can still connect to Live.
I'll put off playing online for the time being, not that I play online on Live most of the time anyway tongue.gif
Oh, and I heard legit consoles were getting banned as well by mistake. GG MS.
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QUOTE(adli @ May 18 2007, 10:26 AM)
takpe, just buy another 360 to play ori. keep another one to play ahem. err... i mean, keep another one for your little brother.
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ye,ye agree laugh.gif buy unmodded machine for xclusive games,dlc,->tak kejar highest gamerscore ... laugh.gif
ahem one for multiplatform games and those who wanna gained higher Gamerscore doh.gif murah tu 1 ahem games rm10,so buy more,playmore, get gamerscore more ... laugh.gif rclxub.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Zephro @ May 18 2007, 10:41 AM)
I'm modded, can still connect to Live.
I'll put off playing online for the time being, not that I play online on Live most of the time anyway tongue.gif
Oh, and I heard legit consoles were getting banned as well by mistake. GG MS.
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Like all the modders will tell you "we can always flash back to original firmware one" So.. out of all those people who say that they are unmodded and got banned

- How many reflashed to original firmware?
- How many bought modded box without knowing?
- How many actually unmodded?

Hard to say.
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hard to say really..
they unmodded then console then sell off..
then you kena cos it is modded b4...
Private John also mention that his Xbox face this problem also... smile.gif
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Why unmodded also get banned ? Not understand....
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Like I mentioned it might not be unmodded at all. Just chill and play if you're legit and you bought ur box first hand from a reputatable store that didn't lie to you that the box is not modded.
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ May 18 2007, 10:52 AM)
hard to say really..
they unmodded then console then sell off..
then you kena cos it is modded b4...
Private John also mention that his Xbox face this problem also...  smile.gif
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That's last time lar laugh.gif

QUOTE(Zephro @ May 18 2007, 10:41 AM)
I'm modded, can still connect to Live.
I'll put off playing online for the time being, not that I play online on Live most of the time anyway tongue.gif
Oh, and I heard legit consoles were getting banned as well by mistake. GG MS.
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Those are just words. I used to be like them, acting innocent infront of Microsoft. It doesn't work. MS ran the check on my xbox few times and the code tell the truth.
So after 5-7 times of getting ban and changing my console ID.
I gave up, got myself a new clean unmod xbox. Save the hassle.
*the above are xbox 1 scenario, not xb360.

I bet those are the people who flashback to ori firmware and try to get away with it by bluffing microsoft.
If it's really the case unmod xb360 getting ban, you would have seen youtube video or news all over the place with facts to back it up.

Anyway, you play ori or pirated games? Usually it takes 1 day to get ban. If you play ori i think chances of you surviving this is quite high because xb360 mod now are just firmware mod, not modchip.



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use modchip 100% safe probably becos u din touch the firmware..

i mean if u activate modchip for backup games, and when wanna play live, get ur ori game and deactivate modchip. When u deactivate modchip, the console firmware is untouched, which those who flashed them also kena caught becos of this. Just be sure to play ORI for LIVE.

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I have some ori games, more pirated though laugh.gif
Even if I get banned, I won't mind that much. Most of the games I play are Single-Player anyway.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ May 18 2007, 11:03 AM)
use modchip 100% safe probably becos u din touch the firmware..
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No, last time i use modchip it's not safe at all. You get detect easily, the best is go on steatlh mode/turn off the modchip.
Still, we can't play with pirated copies of game. Must be original game.

So my guess on current banning works by detecting backup games, not firmware. Until we get more update from the scene, it's really hard to tell.


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QUOTE(Zephro @ May 18 2007, 11:05 AM)
I have some ori games, more pirated though laugh.gif
Even if I get banned, I won't mind that much. Most of the games I play are Single-Player anyway.
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If like that, why not you be the first to try it since you don't mind losing Live. biggrin.gif
The last game you play is pirated or ori? If pirated...do let us know tomorrow. Usually it takes 12 hours sharp to get ban (if it's like the old time tongue.gif Yes, i count everytime)

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There isn't a mod chip nowm it's always a flash on the drive's firmware.
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Haha, last game I played was R6V pirated. Before that was Live Arcade games and Enchant Arms ori.
Don't worry, I'll be the first to post here if I get banned laugh.gif
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i cant live without LIVE... that why i choose UNMOD.... so far my choice... correct.... biggrin.gif.... hope.... they dont banned me... smile.gif
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haha.... if you don mind to get ban..
y not try it tonite then tomolo you can tell us already..
haha...
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QUOTE(marauderz @ May 18 2007, 11:12 AM)
There isn't a mod chip nowm it's always a flash on the drive's firmware.
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wrong, there is a modchip so u din touch ur drive firmware at all..
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well for me i dont play it via Online ( Xbox Live )..most of the time i played it on my own and sometimes when my girl or friends ( which is xbox360 owner ) came to my place then it will be more fun play it together....

the reason is simple my internet connection in my area always keep on DC ! so why should i play it via online.....STREAMYX always like that...

what ever it is i just love my Modded Xbox360
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i cant live without LIVE... that why i choose UNMOD.... so far my choice... correct.... biggrin.gif.... hope.... they dont banned me... smile.gif
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tot31 also modded his Xbox360 with Xtreme Firmware Flashed
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QUOTE(Xrated @ May 18 2007, 11:27 AM)
well for me i dont play it via Online ( Xbox Live )..most of the time i played it on my own and sometimes when my girl or friends ( which is xbox360 owner ) came to my place then it will be more fun play it together....

the reason is simple my internet connection in my area always keep on DC ! so why should i play it via online.....STREAMYX always like that...

what ever it is i just love my Modded Xbox360
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No wonder i never saw u on live bfor....honestly, for me play GOW on live really change my life. Never have fun on games like this bfor. even meet a lots of fren on live smile.gif
I do hope who ever get ban be strong. Im sure there will be hackers out there will solve it tongue.gif
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That's just an excuse. What's they're really trying to say is... "I am da king here. I want to ban you I ban. You blow ah?"

Look at this statement....
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One of the great things about LIVE and the unified community is that we work hard to create a level playing field for all gamers and have a no tolerance policy towards inappropriate behavior like hacking or cheating.


With the advent of Windows LIVE, they're already giving an unfair advantage to PC users. I'm talking specifically about KEYBOARD AND MOUSE usage. The mouse definitely gives FPS players better control. Not to mention hacking and cheating is about a gazillion times easier on a PC. What's worse is that they're allowing PC users to go head on with XBOX users!

No. They are not interested in leveling playing field. They're interested in making money from you.

By the way, I can almost forsee MS selling an "X360 Certified Wireless Mouse and Keyboard" solution for RM400.
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hey someone i know who modded, can go on live some more finished dl halo 3 beta tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ionStorm @ May 18 2007, 11:39 AM)
That's just an excuse. What's they're really trying to say is... "I am da king here. I want to ban you I ban. You blow ah?"

Look at this statement....
With the advent of Windows LIVE, they're already giving an unfair advantage to PC users. I'm talking specifically about KEYBOARD AND MOUSE usage. The mouse definitely gives FPS players better control. Not to mention hacking and cheating is about a gazillion times easier on a PC. What's worse is that they're allowing PC users to go head on with XBOX users!

No. They are not interested in leveling playing field. They're interested in making money from you.

By the way, I can almost forsee MS selling an "X360 Certified Wireless Mouse and Keyboard" solution for RM400.
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Actually if you follow the news of the first xb360-pc crossplay game - shadowrun, it's said that they are giving the console advantage by building the game based on the console first. Besides, you are given the option to play with PC players only, Xb360 players only, or both.
(so it's an option for people who wanted to play against each other and you know there are alot of people on the market been arguing about this.)
Either way, i don't think any Pc player would wana subscribe to GOLD just to play with console player at the first place.

Of course Microsoft is all about making money, they are not doing charity laugh.gif We all knew this day would come, it happen for xbox 1 so why not xb360? People are pirating on their console and it makes sense to ban modded console. Banning also cut down cheating on multiplayer (read Halo 2 cheating fiesta)

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I wonder if they will ban modded PC's. XD

More realistically...I wonder if they will ban pirated games. One wonders if they can even detect it in the first place...and if they could, would that be a breach of privacy?

I don't suppose the PC player would subscribe to Gold to play with a console player...but its been integrated.

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Besides, you are given the option to play with PC players only, Xb360 players only, or both.


Haven't read about this option anywhere. If its there, what's the point anyway? The whole purpose is integration.

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LoL, i'm only amused at this news cos when i bought my modded 360 from andy at tnl last year, i joked with him whether the live ban/3rol will affect me 1st? now i know whistling.gif

hurry up and prep an official malaysia 360 launch, MS Msia smile.gif keep the pricing on par with sgp prices, pretty pls? i'm still buying ori games waiting for local official launch smile.gif

if pirated games kenot go online, selling official games + live subscription in Msia is feasible. hopefully, the govt dont overimpose too much taxes.


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QUOTE(ionStorm @ May 18 2007, 11:50 AM)
I wonder if they will ban modded PC's. XD

More realistically...I wonder if they will ban pirated games. One wonders if they can even detect it in the first place...and if they could, would that be a breach of privacy?

I don't suppose the PC player would subscribe to Gold to play with a console player...but its been integrated.
Haven't read about this option anywhere. If its there, what's the point anyway? The whole purpose is integration.
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Until there are more updates, nobody knows what happen now. Most likely they detect backup games and backup games are what hurt them the most and thus banning them.
Second to that would be cheating, allowing user to install hacks for multiplayer game.
Thirdly, security breach? Don't forget alot of xb360 user got credits card info on their machine...

@Shadowrun : Well, it's an option for people whether they wana play with each other. Just like you want to play with stranger or friends, what game mode you want to play etc etc. Choices.
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QUOTE(acougan @ May 18 2007, 11:51 AM)
LoL, i'm only amused at this news cos when i bought my modded 360 from andy at tnl last year, i joked with him whether the live ban/3rol will affect me 1st? now i know  whistling.gif

hurry up and prep an official malaysia 360 launch, MS Msia smile.gif keep the pricing on par with sgp prices, pretty pls? i'm still buying ori games waiting for local official launch smile.gif

if pirated games kenot go online, selling official games + live subscription in Msia is feasible. hopefully, the govt dont overimpose too much taxes.
only 1 regret: no more going on xbl idolmaster leaderboard to learn from those expert producers how to properly produce my jpop idol with my current set cry.gif  cry.gif
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hey someone i know who modded, can go on live some more finished dl halo 3 beta tongue.gif
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When is the last time he login Live? Last game he plays ori or pirated?
If you add 12-24 hours after his last login and still haven't get ban. He should be safe.
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i got banned
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by my father coz this month electricity bill increase more than RM120
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all i can say that it's been a long time coming.

it's still early to tell if all modded consoles will be affected but im really keen to see what will happen to the market.

also i think the cat and mouse game will start soon for those with the modded consoles.

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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ May 18 2007, 12:08 PM)
When is the last time he login Live? Last game he plays ori or pirated?
If you add 12-24 hours after his last login and still haven't get ban. He should be safe.
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QUOTE(leenaz @ May 18 2007, 12:14 PM)
i got banned
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by my father coz this month electricity bill increase more than RM120
tongue.gif coz keep my console on 48hrs straight to donlod everything i miss tongue.gif
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QUOTE(thurtin @ May 18 2007, 12:17 PM)
all i can say that it's been a long time coming.

it's still early to tell if all modded consoles will be affected but im really keen to see what will happen to the market.

also i think the cat and mouse game will start soon for those with the modded consoles.
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LABIT!!!!waaa got game title cat and mouse? is it FPS or 3rd person game?unreal engine too?? KEWL!!! rclxm9.gif

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yer la.. slayer will play that kind of game la... coz u GHEY .... tongue.gif
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oh.. means b4 today all modded 360 can go multiplay on LIVE?
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i am on live now but deactivated modchip, downloading forze motorsport 2 demo. Still nothing showed up but i cant log into MSN. Must go play live games only will kena ban? No live subscription currently..
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ May 18 2007, 12:46 PM)
i am on live now but deactivated modchip, downloading forze motorsport 2 demo. Still nothing showed up but i cant log into MSN. Must go play live games only will kena ban? No live subscription currently..
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Yes, for example, the Xeno360
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dunno a? got ma..
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right right. i really dunno. thx for the tip and i hope u get banned. smile.gif
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QUOTE(spidercat @ May 18 2007, 09:30 AM)
haha ..ban mod console, that means it is useless if u buy a original games with a md console , still get banned ~!!

heard of some non modded console also being banned , so we are in danger also ?if ms rongly banned , can claim ??
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ May 18 2007, 12:46 PM)
i am on live now but deactivated modchip, downloading forze motorsport 2 demo. Still nothing showed up but i cant log into MSN. Must go play live games only will kena ban? No live subscription currently..
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Try play 1 game and report to us in the next 12-24 hours, see if it's safe. It would be interesting to know.
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i really doubt that unmodded consoles can get banned by mistake. microsoft are not noobs when it comes to things like this. there are definitely things that we dunno about.
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Stupid post will be deleted without further notice. Hackers also have ethic, hackers are not mindless pirates.
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u mean now? I don have xbox live gold subscription. And my brother played call of duty3 yesterday. I saw from chinese website they say silver member arent affected becos all of the silver member modded their console then nothing happen, gold member becos go screw up xbox live so kena ban probably...

btw, i did support ori and i bought few ori game that i think is worth, i only play backup which copy from friend, that's y i get modchip. Outside there ppl selling xtreme firmware games which i cant play smile.gif

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QUOTE(mssv19 @ May 18 2007, 01:08 PM)
Why so stupid one?? Think out of the box lar.

For those pirate, in future just do a MOD switch lo. Want to connect to LIVE, switch of the MOD. Something can be turn ON or OFF one, or auto for you if possible. Depend how complex the circuitry only. Can be done. f*** la! HACKERS RULE!!!
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why so stupid one? ben3003 already said got la.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ May 18 2007, 01:08 PM)
u mean now? I don have xbox live gold subscription. And my brother played call of duty3 yesterday. I saw from chinese website they say silver member arent affected becos all of the silver member modded their console then nothing happen, gold member becos go screw up xbox live so kena ban probably...
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Ok, now you mention it. I think it all make sense now. The ban only applies to backup games going on Live?
So i guess it wasn't really about detecting firmware, it's backup game?

So it will be like the PC market now, wana go online? Buy ori...(actually xbox 1 era also similiar laugh.gif )


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Major Nelson and Gamerscoreblog posted reminders today that people who log onto Live using modified consoles are being dealt with. As more and more people pour into the Halo 3 Beta, please take this warning to heart. Using modified content and hacked boxes is against the Terms of Use for Xbox Live and doing so will result in your console being permanently banned from the service. Forever. For all games.

If you get an error message "Status Code: Z: 8015 - 190D" it means you are done playing Xbox Live on that console. Congrats.

To all of the upstanding members of the Live community - we salute you and look forward to fun times throughout the Halo 3 Beta and beyond.

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i wonder y that ppl seems like so proud of piracy???
i think they are happy when MS really wanna trace and also sue them...
but i don think they will la..
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ May 18 2007, 11:23 AM)
wrong, there is a modchip so u din touch ur drive firmware at all..
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you mean the blaster from team executer ? actually all modchip have thier memory in build flash. thats why it didn't touch the original firmware..

but all have backup help in just one touch of a button..

but anyway, is still true . All modchip you still need to flash the drive no matter what (which includes modchip thats has in build flash in it.. )
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all i can say is its about time they started banning modders and cheats... met too many of them on xbl already who trash talk and think they are great to other players

laugh.gif STAY ORGINAL: DO NOT SUPPORT PIRACY laugh.gif

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Conclusion :

Modded notworthy.gif Good Luck !
Ori : thumbup.gif Keep up the Good Work !

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BTW OT...how come PS3 can play certain xbox360 games ?

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Can users with modded consoles get updates still?
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Can users with modded consoles get updates still?
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Met a few Belgian morons on Catan like that.
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ps3 playing xbox games ? sure or not ? where u read ?


anyway, if it's true that they only ban backup games, i think MS wants ppl to still buy the console even a modded one. And when they think they have sold enough consoles for bill gates to live until 5312, then they'll ban laugh.gif
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QUOTE(munky @ May 18 2007, 01:34 PM)
ps3 playing xbox games ? sure or not ? where u read ?
anyway, if it's true that they only ban backup games, i think MS wants ppl to still buy the console even a modded one. And when they think they have sold enough consoles for bill gates to live until 5312, then they'll ban laugh.gif
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so ban hammer + streamyx 4mbps = xbox 360 release in malaysia?

(fat chance)


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QUOTE(styx @ May 18 2007, 01:40 PM)
so ban hammer + streamyx 4mbps = xbox 360 release in malaysia?

(fat chance)
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Out of all the online "statistic" now, those who get ban are :
-Playing On Live (multiplayer) with backup games
-old firmware? not too sure.
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hey old firmware also get banned???
something wrong about that though...
they will update ur firmware for you..
if you modded ur console good luck then... smile.gif
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Jehutti, are you from kk sabah? You play live bro?

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Confirm I did not get ban... actually I'm on Silver account now but I used up my Xbox Gold 48 hours trial just to see whether can play online or not. No problem here. smile.gif
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Wow, there's quite a few people claiming that their unmodded consoles got the ban hammer.

http://forums.xbox.com/12539458/ShowPost.aspx
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Hezda, u're using unmodded console right? Should be no problem man.
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Hezda, u're using unmodded console right? Should be no problem man.
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Yeah... my console is clean... just want to make sure only.

DAMN... it's already 11 days now and I still have yet to receive my Gold reload card from PA. doh.gif

PS: tempting to upgrade back to Gold with my CC... if I reload later again with my Gold subscription card then my account would be on Gold for 2 years right? hmm.gif

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Wow, there's quite a few people claiming that their unmodded consoles got the ban hammer.

http://forums.xbox.com/12539458/ShowPost.aspx
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ May 18 2007, 01:16 PM)
i wonder y that ppl seems like so proud of piracy???
i think they are happy when MS really wanna trace and also sue them...
but i don think they will la..
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QUOTE(hezda @ May 18 2007, 02:21 PM)
Yeah... my console is clean... just want to make sure only.

DAMN... it's already 11 days now and I still have yet to receive my Gold reload card from PA.  doh.gif

PS: tempting to upgrade back to Gold with my CC... if I reload later again with my Gold subscription card then my account would be on Gold for 2 years right?  hmm.gif
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Ya so wierd!!
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laugh.gif anyway, for those who got banned from MS (that is no modify) I'm pretty sure MS has the power to unbanned correct ? smile.gif
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ May 18 2007, 03:12 PM)
laugh.gif anyway, for those who got banned from MS (that is no modify) I'm pretty sure MS has the power to unbanned correct ? smile.gif
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Show MS all the ori games we bought ?? brows.gif
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ May 18 2007, 03:12 PM)
laugh.gif anyway, for those who got banned from MS (that is no modify) I'm pretty sure MS has the power to unbanned correct ? smile.gif
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yah lah, if you can get through to them.

thing is, I wonder if the location thing affects us in relation to this ban, cos most of us put fakey SG address cos we're in m'sia...

there's a whole load of speculation in the xbox forums thread, and a really annoying so-called girl spamming in a big pink font. there was one argument about individual IDs on each disc, and how multiple gamertags associated with the SAME disc = ban. the argument says that multiple copies of one ID can come about through duplication via burning, or even rental discs, so that one is really iffy. if so, many of us trade through Pasar Malam, and surely a few of the local discs have passed through more than a few hands...

i'll go home and see how. my system is pure unmodded, came out brand new out of a box (unfortunately from sungei wang...) but my gamertag has been used not only on this system but others, including a modded system. we'll see later...

edit to add that i know they're banning machine IDs, but jsut can't help but be a bit concerned right now.

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QUOTE(styx @ May 18 2007, 01:40 PM)
so ban hammer + streamyx 4mbps = xbox 360 release in malaysia?

(fat chance)
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What's the upload speed?

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But how to prove that we are innocent ?? hmm.gif
Show MS all the ori games we bought ?? brows.gif


No point showing them all the dicsc as they're banning 'modded' consoles. Even if you're playing original games, the console's modded, hence violating their T&C.

How do you proof your machine has not been tampered with?

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smile.gif, good one.

What I meant was, if, and only if, you've been mistakenly banned by MS, how do you proof to them that your machine's clean?
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WEll wait la..
around 2 weeks la..
better use courier la...
there is some case also they lost the package...
I also kena once... they reach only 3 weeks...
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QUOTE(verced @ May 18 2007, 03:42 PM)
smile.gif, good one.

What I meant was, if, and only if, you've been mistakenly banned by MS, how do you proof to them that your machine's clean?
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If like that I really don't know how...... ohmy.gif

But if this really happen to me, I'll claim 1 new/clean 360 from the shop I bought.
I know the boss very well...... brows.gif


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Good for ya! smile.gif

Hmm... I'm still seeing modders on Live. I guess they're not at 100% yet eh?
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What's the upload speed?
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does the current streamyx package lag a lot in live?

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QUOTE(styx @ May 18 2007, 04:22 PM)
512 k

does the current streamyx package lag a lot in live?
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You know, bro Merlin_MY once said it the best:

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haha... well you are rite..
you are on 1mb also not that nice the line... some times 512kb works fine..
even my fren's streamx also sometimes down...
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haha... well you are rite..
you are on 1mb also not that nice the line... some times 512kb works fine..
even my fren's streamx also sometimes down...
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Actually was thinking of modding my console if MS still not doing anything with Captain Jack... well just a thought only... now the hammer of dawn finally hit the pirate scenes, I'm glad I didn't buy a modded machine in the first place.

PS: It is tough to find an ori machine in my place.
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meme me here even tougher... in Ipoh or Penang.. you can't get any on the shelves...

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WHAT? shocking.gif

4 megs of download and all you get is 512k uploads? Sigh... what a waste.
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why worry the uploads when the downstream equally sucks ? tongue.gif
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hope it is just detecting backup games, becos they make xbox live for 100% or even 200% gameplay experience, without it=nothing.
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vmad.gif AHHHHHH I'm soooo stupiddddddddddd
Why did I gatal sangat download the frickin' beta. Then I play for hours some more. I really am asking for it cry.gif Ni salah makan jamu la ni cry.gif

If I got the banhammer, then I won't be back until there's a good hack to go with the Elite. But hey, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Blue Dragon, Infinite Undiscovery, Alan Wake, Ace Combat 6, Devil May Cry 4, Too Human can still keep me entertained with my 360. Plus, Halo 3 SP should be enjoyable. But I will miss the peeps online though sad.gif .

I'm still waiting for the banhammer. If it didn't strike me by 12 noon tomorrow, I think I'm safe.

BTW, those who did get the banhammer, tell me: what DVD drives did your 360 use? Mine is Samsung.
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vmad.gif  AHHHHHH I'm soooo stupiddddddddddd
Why did I gatal sangat download the frickin' beta. Then I play for hours some more. I really am asking for it  cry.gif Ni salah makan jamu la ni  cry.gif

If I got the banhammer, then I won't be back until there's a good hack to go with the Elite. But hey, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Blue Dragon, Infinite Undiscovery, Alan Wake, Ace Combat 6, Devil May Cry 4, Too Human can still keep me entertained with my 360. Plus, Halo 3 SP should be enjoyable. But I will miss the peeps online though  sad.gif .

I'm still waiting for the banhammer. If it didn't strike me by 12 noon tomorrow, I think I'm safe.

BTW, those who did get the banhammer, tell me: what DVD drives did your 360 use? Mine is Samsung.
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At least one perk of having unmodded 360. Now only if multiplayer match was free.

I'm waiting to see MS getting sued by 360 user saying "this is my console, I can do whatever I want."

btw whats up with marketplace? it says currently unavailable.

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wah seh, 6 pages in 1 day? laugh.gif

btw, ATM there's 28 people browsing xbox subforum, versus 3 people browsing playstation forum and 2 people browsing nintendo forum. 360 is a hot topic today eh? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hzwasy @ May 18 2007, 07:21 PM)
At least one perk of having unmodded 360. Now only if multiplayer match was free.

I'm waiting to see MS getting sued by 360 user saying "this is my console, I can do whatever I want."

btw whats up with marketplace? it says currently unavailable.
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You can do what you want with your 360 (like modding it), but you violated the T&C for Live if you mod it. So, they have the right to ban you from it.

The console's still working after the ban, so I guess there's nothing wrong with what they're doing.

As for the marketplace, it's working fine here. Both US and SG account.
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QUOTE(hzwasy @ May 18 2007, 07:21 PM)
At least one perk of having unmodded 360. Now only if multiplayer match was free.

I'm waiting to see MS getting sued by 360 user saying "this is my console, I can do whatever I want."

btw whats up with marketplace? it says currently unavailable.
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Plus Microsoft can simply answer "these are our servers, we can do whatever we want.. oh and did you read our t&c?"
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QUOTE(ghoulhunter @ May 18 2007, 07:10 PM)
vmad.gif  AHHHHHH I'm soooo stupiddddddddddd
Why did I gatal sangat download the frickin' beta. Then I play for hours some more. I really am asking for it  cry.gif Ni salah makan jamu la ni  cry.gif

If I got the banhammer, then I won't be back until there's a good hack to go with the Elite. But hey, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Blue Dragon, Infinite Undiscovery, Alan Wake, Ace Combat 6, Devil May Cry 4, Too Human can still keep me entertained with my 360. Plus, Halo 3 SP should be enjoyable. But I will miss the peeps online though  sad.gif .

I'm still waiting for the banhammer. If it didn't strike me by 12 noon tomorrow, I think I'm safe.

BTW, those who did get the banhammer, tell me: what DVD drives did your 360 use? Mine is Samsung.
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nasib baik aku bagi tau ko jiman...kalau tak....ko duk khayal ngan Halo 3 beta ko tu...aku ingat kan ko tau...isk..isk....aku login web live dari france....tgk friendlist aku...sekali...perrrghhh tgk gmanhunt online Halo 3... shocking.gif shocking.gif serious power penangan jamu ko wak gman rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

P/S: One thing ...and think carefully 360 own by the JEWS....and PS3 is owned by Japanese. ape yyg JEWS tau....making money tipu orang whistling.gif whistling.gif

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QUOTE(mayatsan @ May 18 2007, 08:16 PM)
nasib baik aku bagi tau ko jiman...kalau tak....ko duk khayal ngan Halo 3  beta ko tu...aku ingat kan ko tau...isk..isk....aku login web live dari france....tgk friendlist aku...sekali...perrrghhh tgk gmanhunt online Halo 3... shocking.gif  shocking.gif serious power penangan jamu ko wak gman rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

P/S: One thing ...and think carefully 360 own by the JEWS....and PS3  is owned by Japanese. ape yyg JEWS tau....making money tipu orang whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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now now mayat, let's not get controversial....but it is true....M$....capitalism at it's best!
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QUOTE(Merlin MY @ May 18 2007, 08:51 PM)
now now mayat, let's not get controversial....but it is true....M$....capitalism at it's best!
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im just pissed off la merlin... look at sony...cool n steady cry.gif cry.gif
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i know 1 person who got banned by MS
confirmation has been made during gowing just now

wat the sad story is
b4 this his console pure virgin..
unmodded one
but kena racun aledi...
modded and download halo 3 beta.. and play some more...
now got banned...

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im just pissed off la merlin... look at sony...cool n steady cry.gif  cry.gif
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sony ps3 no games mah and consoles sales are down...modded and unmodded...all are welcome! tongue.gif

luckily u r away or banhammer will come down on u. u better find a solution to this quick (or a solution better find you quickly) or i'm going to miss putting my shotgun in your face!
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Sad for him.. i wonder if by removing the x-clamps can remove the ban tongue.gif jking nia dont be mad ah whoever got the ban...

Erm... i wonder does anybody who flashed their dvd drive firmware and yet are able to enjoy LIVE at the same time now? Or are there anyone with modded console got banned?

Anyone? tongue.gif biggrin.gif

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my frenz who kena banned just flas his firmware
we all tot streamyx problem
but then he give that super dangerous code of banned

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QUOTE(Merlin MY @ May 18 2007, 09:11 PM)
sony ps3 no games mah and consoles sales are down...modded and unmodded...all are welcome!  tongue.gif

luckily u r away or banhammer will come down on u. u better find a solution to this quick (or a solution better find you quickly) or i'm going to miss putting my shotgun in your face!
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thanx merlin...its ok....i malu to those malay gamer which are hipokrit and try to blaming others for modding....come on all modders already know all the consequenses...but yet...rilek la...dun blame us for this.....jgn la berlagak sgt....y dulu they act so cold..and when this time come...they r such a pretenders cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(mayatsan @ May 18 2007, 08:16 PM)
nasib baik aku bagi tau ko jiman...kalau tak....ko duk khayal ngan Halo 3  beta ko tu...aku ingat kan ko tau...isk..isk....aku login web live dari france....tgk friendlist aku...sekali...perrrghhh tgk gmanhunt online Halo 3... shocking.gif  shocking.gif serious power penangan jamu ko wak gman rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

P/S: One thing ...and think carefully 360 own by the JEWS....and PS3  is owned by Japanese. ape yyg JEWS tau....making money tipu orang whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Tengkiu mayat notworthy.gif seb baik ko tepon, kurang-kurang ade probability gak arr tak kene banhammer nod.gif

Aku nak main Gears pun dah tawar hati dah wei. Aku tunggu confirmation main original 100% safe lu la kalau nak main pun.
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if it's true that some console that didnt modded also got ban, then my advise is better to not go online until MS fix the problem. for officially supported country you can call and get help but in Malaysia what help will you get? send the console for them to inspect? to which country? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ghoulhunter @ May 18 2007, 09:19 PM)
Tengkiu mayat  notworthy.gif seb baik ko tepon, kurang-kurang ade probability gak arr tak kene banhammer nod.gif

Aku nak main Gears pun dah tawar hati dah wei. Aku tunggu confirmation main original 100% safe lu la kalau nak main pun.
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waoh ..just now i dare to go up live again for GOW , many player toking about it , all seem unsatisfied and it is really true that unmodded console also will get banned ?? takut ~!!...how to inspect my 360 whter is it real unmodded ?? all along this i play ori game wo , although some i bought it back from ebay as 2nd hand la , MS WONT BANNED 2ND HAND GAME GUAH ????.....AND I DIDNT SEE MANY MALAYSIAN GAMERS ONLINE TODAY LA WHEN I ONLINE , ALL SCARED DEE ?? ...HAIZZ...MAYBE MS CAN USE THIS PERIOD TO DO SERVER MAINTANCE ........................

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i juz tried mine... they didnt ban my console also.. flex.gif
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QUOTE(spidercat @ May 18 2007, 09:29 PM)
waoh ..just now i dare to go up live again for GOW , many player toking about it , all seem unsatisfied and it is really true that unmodded console also will get banned ?? takut ~!!...how to inspect my 360 whter is it real unmodded ?? all along this i play ori game wo , although some i bought it back from ebay as 2nd hand la , MS WONT BANNED 2ND HAND GAME GUAH ????.....AND I DIDNT SEE MANY MALAYSIAN GAMERS ONLINE TODAY LA WHEN I ONLINE , ALL SCARED DEE ?? ...HAIZZ...MAYBE MS CAN USE THIS PERIOD TO DO SERVER MAINTANCE ........................
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well you can take out your faceplate then see the microsoft warranty sticker still intact or not... then another way is load 1 ahem 360 game loh
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Is your console modded?

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Alert alert! Our "commodore" got headshot-ed!

Oh no!! M$ killed our "commodore". You B******!!

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what i find funny is why MS didn't just make the console won't boot pirate game? this will make people forced into buying original games. ban by console means people will have to buy new console, means loss of money for MS for every new console bought. and there's a probability that they will buy competitive console instead.
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QUOTE(mayatsan @ May 18 2007, 08:16 PM)
nasib baik aku bagi tau ko jiman...kalau tak....ko duk khayal ngan Halo 3  beta ko tu...aku ingat kan ko tau...isk..isk....aku login web live dari france....tgk friendlist aku...sekali...perrrghhh tgk gmanhunt online Halo 3... shocking.gif  shocking.gif serious power penangan jamu ko wak gman rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

P/S: One thing ...and think carefully 360 own by the JEWS....and PS3  is owned by Japanese. ape yyg JEWS tau....making money tipu orang whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Hey, no political statement like that. It has got nothing to do with JEWS or any race. No racist remark here.
Sony also keep updating their firmware to combat the psp modders, it's just the company trying to protect their IP. Sooner or later they gona do the same for PS3.

It's been said since the first day modded will be ban so can't blame anyone.

When the day modder roaming free - you see modder 'berlagak' also.

So, lets just keep the discussion back on gaming after this hot topic so no matter which "side" you are on, still can co-exist with each other.

QUOTE(xxboxx @ May 18 2007, 09:44 PM)
what i find funny is why MS didn't just make the console won't boot pirate game? this will make people forced into buying original games. ban by console means people will have to buy new console, means loss of money for MS for every new console bought. and there's a probability that they will buy competitive console instead.
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There is no perfect security, if they can they would have implement that ages ago but that's impossible. The guy who crack the first xbox was invited to Microsoft office to give a talk as well.


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Don't Assume Sony won't do anything if the PS3 ever gets modded, out of all 3 next gen consoles only the Wii is the weakest one in case of internet protection against mod chips.


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QUOTE(fx2800 @ May 18 2007, 09:31 PM)
i juz tried mine... they didnt ban my console also..  flex.gif
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according to the big pirates himself, private j0hn, tongue.gif the ban will kick in after 12-24 hours after you log in.


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Alert alert! Our "commodore" got headshot-ed!

Oh no!! M$ killed our "commodore". You B******!!
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eh, where got this story commodore got headshot? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ May 18 2007, 09:44 PM)
what i find funny is why MS didn't just make the console won't boot pirate game? this will make people forced into buying original games. ban by console means people will have to buy new console, means loss of money for MS for every new console bought. and there's a probability that they will buy competitive console instead.
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I read in xbox-scene earlier got one guy who cannot boot copied games now. He can only hear a sound but no display and of course his xbox was banned too laugh.gif

Also imo user who using modded console know this bound to happen sooner or later, if you bought a modded console without knowing its even modded, i feel sorry for you but for those who intentionally bought one, nice knowing ya cool.gif

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I read in xbox-scene earlier got one guy who cannot boot copied games now. He can only hear a sound but no display and of course his xbox was banned too laugh.gif

Also imo user who using modded console know this bound to happen sooner or later, if you bought a modded console without knowing its even modded, i feel sorry for you but for those who intentionally bought one, nice knowing ya cool.gif
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QUOTE(marauderz @ May 18 2007, 09:47 PM)
Don't Assume Sony won't do anything if the PS3 ever gets modded, out of all 3 next gen consoles only the Wii is the weakest one in case of internet protection against mod chips.
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Man.. i guess the traffic in Xbox-Scene with all the buzz about the M$ banning accounts is so hectic that i couldnt even get into the Xbox360 General Hardware Chat section to discuss bout some X-Clamps replacement latest update....


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QUOTE(leenaz @ May 18 2007, 09:00 PM)
i know 1 person who got banned by MS
confirmation has been made during gowing just now

wat the sad story is
b4 this his console pure virgin..
unmodded one
but kena racun aledi...
modded and download halo 3 beta.. and play some more...
now got banned...
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FFF******K YEAH....
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pity those ba$tards la..
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I have an unmodded console and i'm not afraid being banned. If the Hammer of Ban really strikes on me, well, i'm not going to whine, i'd just mod it and play some god damn pirated games! (you ask for it, M$)

Now, here's my main concern... how does the console recognizes backup games and M$ retrieves the info? Or more important, if i play 2nd hand game (bought from Pasar Malam), will the console able to differentiate it from backups?

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If im not mistaken, whoever playin original gamez in the flashed console not effected no ? Until now MS just only detect the backup disc not the flashed firmware. Correct me if im wrong.
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I'm going to let my 360 stay off Live! for the time being, just to be safe. Just in case the hammer terjatuh on my 360. I can make do without Wayne and the Lancer for the time being.

Luckily I got my 8800 GTS to keep me busy during this storm on Live. Gotta love the pc, if it fails, can format it!!: P
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QUOTE(hairuLeZ @ May 18 2007, 11:46 PM)
If im not mistaken, whoever playin original gamez in the flashed console not effected no ? Until now MS just only detect the backup disc not the flashed firmware. Correct me if im wrong.
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Possible, until now nobody can really be safe 'coz nobody know how the ban works and the so-called "faster than microsoft in releasing new firmware". If you are lucky you get ban, i mean not ban tongue.gif
That's one of the reason i gave up modded console after Xbox 1 era, everytime logging Live is like going to war, worry this & that sweat.gif So now i do not need to worry about spring update, fall update or whatnot.
If homebrew scene decided to pick up the pace, i will just get another xb360 to mod.

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QUOTE(schrodinger_cat @ May 18 2007, 11:44 PM)
I have an unmodded console and i'm not afraid being banned. If the Hammer of Ban really strikes on me, well, i'm not going to whine, i'd just mod it and play some god damn pirated games! (you ask for it, M$)



i like those statement u made
yups agrees with u
if my unmodded console got banned by ms and after certain time..
they didn't unbanned me back
i will join the dark forces
price already been quote..
i ihope after this the price will be dropped soon
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Btw, i just bought a 2nd hand ori game 2 days ago n just played it few hours ago. No ominous signs present. So, it should be safe to play 2nd hand games ... for now.



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QUOTE(schrodinger_cat @ May 19 2007, 12:13 AM)
Btw, i just bought a 2nd hand ori game 2 days ago n just played it few hours ago. No ominous signs present. So, it should be safe to play 2nd hand games ... for now.
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ya laaa
that is ori game
it doesnt even matter if ur number 100person who bought that game..
still consider ori game mehhh
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Hey does this ban only stop you from loggin to LIVE or does it render your console useless as well a.k.a brick?

I'm hoping to update using the disc but its not on xbox.com yet i figure the team is waiting for the ban to be implemented. so updating via LIVE or disc would still mean your console gonna get banned.

i regret i didnt update it earlier before the ban but i was without a router, its shit!

oh yeah ok and i have a modded console. LOL. But i still have got lotsa original games, just for the record.
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Darth,

No point getting another GT because the Xbox is not connected to Live anymore. smile.gif

As for Pasar Malam's games, I don't think we'll have any problem there. I bet Americans will be cursing first if that were to happen. They have companies like Gamefly that rent out games. The games they offered are used in way more consoles than we're doing here.

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They'll just ban your console from Live.
They won't brick your console, ever. That's malicious, and just asking for a lawsuit.
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I hope MS will go a step further n not only ban the "questioned" units.. but to further render it as a paper weight.
Maybe they can put some high level coding that will instruct the GPU n CPU to heat up like the sun, this causing the console to burn. Another nice touch will be telling the DVD-drive to spin like 50krpm n then eject suddenly.. which would cause bodily harm to the modder.
Hmmm

MS got ballz..?
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QUOTE(verced @ May 19 2007, 01:43 AM)
Darth,

No point getting another GT because the Xbox is not connected to Live anymore. smile.gif

As for Pasar Malam's games, I don't think we'll have any problem there. I bet Americans will be cursing first if that were to happen. They have companies like Gamefly that rent out games. The games they offered are used in way more consoles than we're doing here.
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not serious gonna change my GT
but i will do
if my unmodded got banned..
i will join the dark side of force
may the force be with me
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What if they 'mistakenly' ban your console? You won't be pissed? smile.gif
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pissed??
of course..
but i will wait for certain time
if there is any changes...
i will modded my console...
hell yeahhhhh
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bah. mod or unmodded anyway, is just another update for me though. is like seeing the history hit back us when is from the Super Xbox..
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bye people! i got officially ban!
no more gaming for me
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leenaz... icekepal ke yang kena?

anyway, I'm not afraid of microsoft 'mistakenly' banning my unmodded console, coz I'm pretty sure it won't happen. Did it happen with xbox1 anywya?
Those ppl who said so are probably modders who reflashed their firmware to the original after getting the banhammer.

just a conjecture.
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hmmmm like i said, i really doubt the stories of the "innocent" virgin xbox 360s being banned on Live. After all, no one knows the full story except the owners themselves. I would really want to know if there are any unmodded users banned in Malaysia.

Lets not be paranoid about this and wait for a while to get a clearer picture. For the time being, I would really advice against anyone spreading the news that Microsoft could ban unmodded consoles.
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QUOTE(aegis`- @ May 19 2007, 02:16 AM)
bye people! i got officially ban!
no more gaming for me
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huh ? confirm bye bye already?
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yea gone already djinn

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QUOTE(thurtin @ May 19 2007, 02:18 AM)
hmmmm like i said, i really doubt the stories of the "innocent" virgin xbox 360s being banned on Live. After all, no one knows the full story except the owners themselves. I would really want to know if there are any unmodded users banned in Malaysia. 

Lets not be paranoid about this and wait for a while to get a clearer picture. For the time being, I would really advice against anyone spreading the news that Microsoft could ban unmodded consoles.
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QUOTE(aegis`- @ May 19 2007, 02:23 AM)
yea gone already djinn
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how much can i get for that man
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sell to djinn as demo unit. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(aegis`- @ May 19 2007, 02:34 AM)
how much can i get for that man
my save game all goner liao wor
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QUOTE(aegis`- @ May 19 2007, 02:34 AM)
how much can i get for that man
my save game all goner liao wor
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sweat.gif how come save file also hilang....

QUOTE(cannavaro @ May 19 2007, 02:35 AM)
sell to djinn as demo unit.  whistling.gif
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bcoz if i sell the whole thing
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QUOTE(aegis`- @ May 19 2007, 02:40 AM)
bcoz if i sell the whole thing
harddisk goes along ma
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you can sell it as a core pack mah~. or just buy a memory unit and sell together la~.
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It's not that hard to sell a modded console i think biggrin.gif
Just keep it, buy a new core then you got 1 mod 1 unmod liaw.
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hhmm...i thought MS banned the console, not the gamertag....(what i read la..) blush.gif

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QUOTE(Mr. Alby @ May 19 2007, 07:48 AM)
hhmm...i thought MS banned the console, not the gamertag....(what i read la..) blush.gif

anyhoo...

it doesnt matter to me....If my console got banned (*..knock..knock..),i gonna hunt Djinn bruce.gif      tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ghostdevice @ May 19 2007, 09:22 AM)
maxim 100 hottest girl no.1 is Lindsay Lohan wtf  doh.gif slut of the year not enough meh heheh

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What is she related with this topic, her's XBOX LIVE ID aslo been ban too?? doh.gif sweat.gif
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testing .. using modded console.
mine didnt get banned yet.. but maybe because im only playing xbla games & downloading movies / watching clips from live. (not for online gaming / didnt use the dvd disks).

but one thing for sure.. i can no longer download new movie releases.. it keep saying my region is not supported. sigh
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And then there's the banhammer. The end.

If I have the money, maybe we'll meet again at the end of the year!
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And then there's the banhammer. The end.

If I have the money, maybe we'll meet again at the end of the year!
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My my.... so many people on modded. How many kena so far ??
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QUOTE(Evirober @ May 19 2007, 09:48 AM)
nakata: xbox banhammer has funny effect on people ya know... XP
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QUOTE(bem69 @ May 19 2007, 10:52 AM)
JIMAN? Ko dah kene ban ke?
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bape bulan lagi nanti aku bli arr core unmodded. Dapat lepas main Forza 2, GoW, H3 ngan Team Fortress 2 jadik arr. Djinn, prepare one soon, I want to go back to the light side... for a while unsure.gif

Merlin bro, I'll try to be back, so don't remove me from your friend list, yeah? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ghoulhunter @ May 19 2007, 11:18 AM)
Kene la Bem oiii. Ko je lah yg jual jamu skang nih  laugh.gif

bape bulan lagi nanti aku bli arr core unmodded. Dapat lepas main Forza 2, GoW, H3 ngan Team Fortress 2 jadik arr. Djinn, prepare one soon, I want to go back to the light side... for a while  unsure.gif

Merlin bro, I'll try to be back, so don't remove me from your friend list, yeah?  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aegis`- @ May 19 2007, 02:40 AM)
bcoz if i sell the whole thing
harddisk goes along ma
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Buy a new unmodded unit, swap the hard drive and bring the old one to cash converters b4 they realise that it cannot go on live.

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QUOTE(ghostdevice @ May 19 2007, 09:22 AM)
maxim 100 hottest girl no.1 is Lindsay Lohan wtf  doh.gif slut of the year not enough meh heheh

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QUOTE(ghostdevice @ May 19 2007, 01:04 PM)
i purposely post in this thread to calm the ranting
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Was talking to my manager over this during lunch, she says it is possible that we won't be able to 'pasar malam' our old games anymore because we are buying the rights to the game, and not the DVD itself. So Microsoft can technically limit the disc to a single machine - provided that what applies to computer software holds true here as well.

Anyways, I personally think that Crackdown launching with 900 achievements, with the balance available over XBox Live is some sorta experiment, perhaps we will be seeing more and more games released bare bones and needing to be fleshed out via downloads. Provided that Microsoft reduces the price of such titles and d/l, this might be a better way than ban-hammer.
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QUOTE(ImSIEBEL @ May 19 2007, 01:30 PM)
Why not put u are the number 1 of top 100 gay Guyz Playing xbox360... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ghostdevice @ May 19 2007, 02:01 PM)
i'm not gay like u thats y i post girl info there but then again nobody can outclass how classic gay moment u having rite now since u dont like girls brows.gif
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QUOTE(ghoulhunter @ May 19 2007, 11:18 AM)
Kene la Bem oiii. Ko je lah yg jual jamu skang nih  laugh.gif

bape bulan lagi nanti aku bli arr core unmodded. Dapat lepas main Forza 2, GoW, H3 ngan Team Fortress 2 jadik arr. Djinn, prepare one soon, I want to go back to the light side... for a while  unsure.gif

Merlin bro, I'll try to be back, so don't remove me from your friend list, yeah?  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(madmoz @ May 19 2007, 01:58 PM)
Was talking to my manager over this during lunch, she says it is possible that we won't be able to 'pasar malam' our old games anymore because we are buying the rights to the game, and not the DVD itself. So Microsoft can technically limit the disc to a single machine - provided that what applies to computer software holds true here as well.

Anyways, I personally think that Crackdown launching with 900 achievements, with the balance available over XBox Live is some sorta experiment, perhaps we will be seeing more and more games released bare bones and needing to be fleshed out via downloads. Provided that Microsoft reduces the price of such titles and d/l, this might be a better way than ban-hammer.
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That statement is quite true but so far, no company dare to do that for console games yet because it does bring them bad PR. Before this was the rumour of PS3 blu-ray disc having this sorta security and with the intention of bringing down best-buy, walmart, GAME, or whatever second-hand trade in shop. Of course it was deny and nothing but a rumour. Still, it gave Sony such a headache with all the complaint.

So i think not even Micro$oft would wana make enemies with those retail shop/hypermarket. laugh.gif
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90% i sure MS only banned modded console with ahemm games , i force my friend try his modded console on live with ori games ,his console still fine from yesterday till now .......hehe ...
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QUOTE(spidercat @ May 19 2007, 02:24 PM)
90% i sure MS only banned modded console with ahemm games , i force my friend try his modded console on live with ori games ,his console still fine from yesterday till now .......hehe ...
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but there been report that people who modded thier console and playing Original Have Been Banned.
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QUOTE(spidercat @ May 19 2007, 02:24 PM)
90% i sure MS only banned modded console with ahemm games , i force my friend try his modded console on live with ori games ,his console still fine from yesterday till now .......hehe ...
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aegis plays ori on modded console still kena banned.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(spidercat @ May 19 2007, 02:24 PM)
90% i sure MS only banned modded console with ahemm games , i force my friend try his modded console on live with ori games ,his console still fine from yesterday till now .......hehe ...
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i'm 99.99% sure MS is just toying with the rest of the modded but not banned group. haha, sit the the xboxlive hq everyday very boring mah, so they ban some, then the go read those message boards and forums to laugh at those who are still unbanned but fearful. every job has its moments. look at those 800++ comments at MJ. LoL
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QUOTE(acougan @ May 19 2007, 02:55 PM)
i'm 99.99% sure MS is just toying with the rest of the modded but not banned group. haha, sit the the xboxlive hq everyday very boring mah, so they ban some, then the go read those message boards and forums to laugh at those who are still unbanned but fearful. every job has its moments. look at those 800++ comments at MJ. LoL
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Hmm.. i'm gonna get my revived 3ROD from Djinn later. MS only detects the hacked DVD firmware right and not some extra X-clamps? biggrin.gif So I presume its safe for me to sign in to LIVE? Mine's unmodded.


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QUOTE(welwitchia @ May 19 2007, 03:17 PM)
Hmm.. i'm gonna get my revived 3ROD from Djinn later. MS only detects the hacked DVD firmware right and not some extra X-clamps?  biggrin.gif    So I presume its safe for me to sign in to LIVE? Mine's unmodded.
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Dont think so...mine with x-clamp too...unmodded...been logged in to live son every single day..no worry..and no trouble at all... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ May 19 2007, 03:17 PM)
Hmm.. i'm gonna get my revived 3ROD from Djinn later. MS only detects the hacked DVD firmware right and not some extra X-clamps?  biggrin.gif    So I presume its safe for me to sign in to LIVE? Mine's unmodded.
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of course is save.. it detects for those who mod internal firmware.... laugh.gif

x-clamp has no physical "driver" to install also laugh.gif how they can detect. laugh.gif

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Neither feel good or bad , but I feel sad for Aegis because all the while he's playing ori game without knowing his console is modded .
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QUOTE(acougan @ May 19 2007, 02:55 PM)
i'm 99.99% sure MS is just toying with the rest of the modded but not banned group. haha, sit the the xboxlive hq everyday very boring mah, so they ban some, then the go read those message boards and forums to laugh at those who are still unbanned but fearful. every job has its moments. look at those 800++ comments at MJ. LoL
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belum balik dari france lagi nih...hmmm once i get back to malaysia...update my 360...buy ori GOW..play online....hahahahahahah laugh.gif laugh.gif HACKERS!!!!! do something plsssss whistling.gif
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Hmm so any official numbers of mod ppl here getting banned?
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QUOTE(leenaz @ May 18 2007, 12:14 PM)
i got banned
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by my father coz this month electricity bill increase more than RM120
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increase by RM120? how do you arrive at that?

If my calculation is correct, if i assume you use the xbox 360 for 48 hrs, the
cost will be 48hr x 0.2kW x RM0.3 = RM2.88

if you are a hardcore, and turns on the xbox 360 for 18hrs a day, in a month you will have accumulatd 18 x 30 = 540 hrs. So assuming the worst case:

540hr x 0.2kW x RM0.3 = RM32.40

So RM120 is a bit too off. Maybe TN 'miscalculated'



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QUOTE(hyperweb @ May 19 2007, 10:46 PM)
increase by RM120?  how do you arrive at that?

If my calculation is correct, if i assume you use the xbox 360 for 48 hrs, the
cost will be 48hr x 0.2kW  x RM0.3  =  RM2.88

if you are a hardcore, and turns on the xbox 360 for 18hrs a day, in a month you will have accumulatd 18 x 30 = 540 hrs. So assuming the worst case:

540hr x 0.2kW x RM0.3 =  RM32.40

So RM120 is a bit too off.  Maybe TN 'miscalculated'
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QUOTE(icekepal @ May 20 2007, 05:12 AM)
hmm takkan ps3 pun dah modd??hehe and then wii pun bleh main hehe
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GOOD POINTS TO PONDER...

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Not to mention, the notion that some people seem to have, that this will not result in a financial loss to Microsoft are coming from people who clearly are not only 'not modders'; but they are clearly comments from people who have no clue about console modding, or the community or environment created by modders.  Lets just set the cheating aspect aside for a moment, cheating in a game just ruins it, even for the cheater although they may not realize that.

The idea that somehow banning a game console from online play will improve Microsoft's income is absolute sheer nonsense.  First,let me repeat what is a clear fact; someone who has a modded box and cant play online even with a legitimate disk is not going to have any good reason to purchase legitimate disks if they have cheaper pirated versions available, so that is all they will purchase.

Secondly, anyone who is banned from online play will not be paying for online play.

Thirdly, clearly, anyone who was considering the purchase of an Xbox largely due to the fact they were interested in modding it is not likely to purchase an Xbox if they figure a modded box won't play online, there fore they wont buy the hardware and they wont purchase any games legitimate or otherwise.

Fourthly, any person who gets banned by accident by this method and who is using a stock console may just be pissed enough to stop buying Xbox games (they obviously wont be paying for online gaming if they are banned) and statistics have shown over and over that unsatisfactory experiences with a business are communicated to friends and acquaintances 10 times as often as satisfactory experiences, so alot of people will hear negative things for every accidental banning.  Probably for alot of justified banning as well.  Lets put it this way, Microsoft is going to get alot of very negative spoken word advertising on this one way or the other.

And fifth, the hackers will likely make some kind of new mod chip within months, or even weeks that will allow pirated games to be played online again so its all simply a big waste of time.

So all this nonsense talk about patting each other on the back and congratulating MS for stopping the pirates, forget it.  The only reason they are even doing it is because they bought into some clowns story that it could be accomplished, they wish it could work so they believe it will work.  And they end up paying some clown who convinced them he could somehow stop piracy.

I'll tell you how to stop piracy.  Real quick.  Put games and software on cartridges...Opps! Forgot! Cartridges cost way way more to actually manufacture then a cheap plastic CD or DVD.  And thats no good because it would cut into profit margins!


THINK ABOUT THIS SCENENARIO...

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Too many people in here that like to steal then complain that Microsoft is not supporting them.  Get real you thieves, you choose to steal a game don't come crying to Microsoft about how it's not fair.  Then you want to cry how you can't get online, that's right.  You mod your Xbox 360 you will be banned on Xbox Live.

For those crying saying Microsoft should drop price on games, another big joke.  The majority of you that are pirating games would still steal them even if the games were $1 or 50 cents, because people like you have absolutely no morals whatsoever and enjoy stealing from people.  Hey how's this for an idea, I'll tell your workplace that they should pay you half what they are paying you now because you don't really need all that money you are making since you steal everything you 'own'.  Sounds fair right?  Oh I guess when someone takes from you it's all a different story right?  Don't use the lame excuse, that companies make millions so it's a drop in teh bucket argument, its really tired.  You are all HYPROCRITS.

Those that are saying they will buy a PS3.  No one really cares, go buy a PS3.  Microsoft is not going to really worry about a small number of thieves going to the competition.  The reality is you are too poor to afford to buy games on the Xbox 360 but you want to threaten that you will buy a $600 console and the games for it.  Even if you did - again no one cares, you are nobody to worry about.  The pirates are a handful of idiots that are to be consider pariahs and should be flushed down the toilet with the rest of the sewage.

Microsoft did the right thing here, they banned the idiot SKRIPT-KIDDIES from Live and made Live a much better place for people that don't need a handout and are too poor to afford games.  Go buy a PS3 and go steal their games, no one wants you here.  Don't let the LIVE disconnect door hit you in the a$$ AGAIN.
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Do you

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b)buy ur operating system

c)running legit software suites like ms office

we all know 99% of everyone who uses the internet has mp3s that they didnt "back up", so spare us with the moral talk
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Mayat...but how the game developers going to recover their investment ... as xbox 360 gaming market is considered very minimal if compared to the volume of Windows or even the entertainment market...
And...as always..we all expect a spectacular release for any new xbox 360 games in the market....and I dont think they are willing to do it for free or at losses.....
Even, xbox 360 r sold at losses at initial phase....and I believe the product life cycle for this product will not be more than 5 years...so another more money to be invested for a new gaming console.....this economic structure is not applicable at all if compared with the Windows and Entertainment market....People will keep buying the OS and original music....and thiose same people will either buying PS3 or not buying any gaming console at all.....Think about it.... icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(silencer @ May 20 2007, 08:59 AM)
Mayat...but how the game developers going to recover their investment ... as xbox 360 gaming market is considered very minimal if compared to the volume of Windows or even the entertainment market...
And...as always..we all expect a spectacular release for any new xbox 360 games in the market....and I dont think they are willing to do it for free or at losses.....
Even, xbox 360 r sold at losses at initial phase....and I believe the product life cycle for this product will not be more than 5 years...so another more money to be invested for a new gaming console.....this economic structure is not applicable at all if compared with the Windows and Entertainment market....People will keep buying the OS and original music....and thiose same people will either buying PS3 or not buying any gaming console at all.....Think about it.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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That's y.....M$ should launch official Xbox360 in Malaysia as they did in China. They sold the ori game in china market so cheap...bcoz they want to stop those piracy things...y that capitalism M$ cant do this in Malaysia......ooohhh come on 60 SD is not the same as RM50...they pinned us so bad...they should have the strategy on how to tackle the consumer...but yet they failed...enuf with the defect product...wut they did are taking the advantage on us...oh come on just launch it in malaysia and we will have a better consumer rights...they lauched it in all IT/ICT asian countries such as japan, korea,india,singapore and even china....dun we have our cyberjaya which M$ invest where so called their "2nd Silicon Valley" in asian region....sssighhh M$ capitalism at its best... cry.gif cry.gif flex.gif flex.gif


Added on May 20, 2007, 9:40 amAND THINK... HOW ABOUT THIS IF ITS GONNA HAPPEN???
QUOTE(madmoz @ May 19 2007, 01:58 PM)
Was talking to my manager over this during lunch, she says it is possible that we won't be able to 'pasar malam' our old games anymore because we are buying the rights to the game, and not the DVD itself. So Microsoft can technically limit the disc to a single machine - provided that what applies to computer software holds true here as well.
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QUOTE(hyperweb @ May 19 2007, 10:46 PM)
increase by RM120?  how do you arrive at that?

If my calculation is correct, if i assume you use the xbox 360 for 48 hrs, the
cost will be 48hr x 0.2kW  x RM0.3  =  RM2.88

if you are a hardcore, and turns on the xbox 360 for 18hrs a day, in a month you will have accumulatd 18 x 30 = 540 hrs. So assuming the worst case:

540hr x 0.2kW x RM0.3 =  RM32.40

So RM120 is a bit too off.  Maybe TN 'miscalculated'
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QUOTE(mayatsan @ May 20 2007, 09:27 AM)
That's y.....M$ should launch official Xbox360 in Malaysia as they did in China. They sold the ori game in china market so cheap...bcoz they want to stop those piracy things...y that capitalism M$ cant do this in Malaysia......ooohhh come on 60 SD is not the same as RM50...they pinned us so bad...they should have the strategy on how to tackle the consumer...but yet they failed...enuf with the defect product...wut they did are taking the advantage on us...oh come on just launch it in malaysia and we will have a better consumer rights...they lauched it in all IT/ICT asian countries such as japan, korea,india,singapore and even china....dun we have our cyberjaya which M$ invest where so called their "2nd Silicon Valley" in asian region....sssighhh M$ capitalism at its best...  cry.gif  cry.gif  flex.gif  flex.gif


Added on May 20, 2007, 9:40 amAND THINK... HOW ABOUT THIS IF ITS GONNA HAPPEN???
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MS is being bollocks when it comes to introducing Live services here in Malaysia. Below are the software piracy rate in certain countries for the year 2004:

1. China: 92%
2. India: 73%
3. Venezuela: 72%
4. Chile: 63%
5. Mexico: 63%

All the countries above has Live services whereas Malaysia with software piracy rate of 63% is being left out. And mind you, the data shown if for the year 2004. I bet with the ongoing crackdown on software piracy here, the latest stats will be lower vmad.gif mad.gif


Added on May 20, 2007, 11:29 amOh looky here. Something I picked up on the net. Notice the statement in bold:

On May 17, 2007, Microsoft started banning modified firmware consoles. Users with modified firmware will be banned permanently from Xbox Live, says Microsoft. After the first day of mass banning, Microsoft Germany executive Boris Schneider-Johne said: "You can get banned and exact same firmware ban code error if you have a overseas account with non valid address; You paid with a overseas credit card where the address does not agree with the address used in Xbox Live."

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Oh looky here. Something I picke up on the net. Notice the statement in bold:

On May 17, 2007, Microsoft started banning modified firmware consoles. Users with modified firmware will be banned permanently from Xbox Live, says Microsoft. After the first day of mass banning, Microsoft Germany executive Boris Schneider-Johne said: "You can get banned and exact same firmware ban code error if you have a overseas account with non valid address; You paid with a overseas credit card where the address does not agree with the address used in Xbox Live."
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If this happen bye xbox hello ps3 for me.

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QUOTE(ganaz-x @ May 20 2007, 11:23 AM)
MS is being bollocks when it comes to introducing Live services here in Malaysia. Below are the software piracy rate in certain countries for the year 2004:

1. China: 92%
2. India: 73%
3. Venezuela: 72%
4. Chile: 63%
5. Mexico: 63%

All the countries above has Live services whereas Malaysia with software piracy rate of 63% is being left out. And mind you, the data shown if for the year 2004. I bet with the ongoing crackdown on software piracy here, the latest stats will be lower  vmad.gif  mad.gif


Added on May 20, 2007, 11:29 amOh looky here. Something I picked up on the net. Notice the statement in bold:

On May 17, 2007, Microsoft started banning modified firmware consoles. Users with modified firmware will be banned permanently from Xbox Live, says Microsoft. After the first day of mass banning, Microsoft Germany executive Boris Schneider-Johne said: "You can get banned and exact same firmware ban code error if you have a overseas account with non valid address; You paid with a overseas credit card where the address does not agree with the address used in Xbox Live."
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QUOTE(ImSIEBEL @ May 20 2007, 11:39 AM)
Holly SH1T !!!!  icon_question.gif .....im usinng US account and the address is ATARI address  tongue.gif ...But my CC is my house address....Aiyoyo.. rclxub.gif
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Added on May 20, 2007, 11:29 amOh looky here. Something I picked up on the net. Notice the statement in bold:

On May 17, 2007, Microsoft started banning modified firmware consoles. Users with modified firmware will be banned permanently from Xbox Live, says Microsoft. After the first day of mass banning, Microsoft Germany executive Boris Schneider-Johne said: "You can get banned and exact same firmware ban code error if you have a overseas account with non valid address; You paid with a overseas credit card where the address does not agree with the address used in Xbox Live."
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LOL... then all msian xbox360 users is goin to be banned??

btw.. i hear news that M$ is hiring staffs for a local setup.. maybe launching soon?
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Most criticisms leveled at the Xbox Live service concern the Xbox Live Marketplace. The service has come under fire from both gamers and the gaming press for charging for downloadable content. In many such cases, users failed to see the value of the content.

Notable incidents include a horse armor download for Oblivion costing $2 and Microsoft charging for a Gears of War map pack that developer Epic wished to give away for free (it will become a free download 4 months later).
Game Informer also said that Microsoft forced other companies to charge for content they wanted to give out for free.

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I can't connect to Live now. I think I'm banned. Tee hee.
No error message though.

Checked the error code and yep, I'm banned tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ganaz-x @ May 20 2007, 11:23 AM)
MS is being bollocks when it comes to introducing Live services here in Malaysia. Below are the software piracy rate in certain countries for the year 2004:

1. China: 92%
2. India: 73%
3. Venezuela: 72%
4. Chile: 63%
5. Mexico: 63%

All the countries above has Live services whereas Malaysia with software piracy rate of 63% is being left out. And mind you, the data shown if for the year 2004. I bet with the ongoing crackdown on software piracy here, the latest stats will be lower  vmad.gif  mad.gif
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huh? except for mexico, the other 4 countries dont have official LIVE and china is not launched just like Msia. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(mayatsan @ May 20 2007, 08:14 AM)
GOOD POINTS TO PONDER...
THINK ABOUT THIS SCENENARIO...
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1. Regarding your point to ponder, the first point is one of the important point!! How can it be "put aside", then come out with all the point that support his point of perspective only? Cleary he is just piss at Microsoft for banning. Wait till you see people flying in the game and shooting unlimited bullet at the rate of 999 bullet per second. Yes, it happens.

2. Of course but those are minority, usually modders would have gotten two xb360 & they can do whatever they want without limiting themselves. It's a no-brainer that if cheating and hacking happens, people need to get ban. Not just console game, any online would have that happen. World of Warcraft is the hottest game right now with massive subscriber, yet Blizzard decide to ban more than 18,000 cheaters and suspended alot of users. Cheaters or not, those are source of income for blizzard but yet, they goto do it because it has to be fair.

3. Again, just to cater to the minority and piss off the larger legitimate userbase? Think of it, how will the legitimate user feel when they pay more to support the game yet pirates just need to pay few bux to play online?
So i find Microsoft way of dealing with modded console are more justify because it doesn't brick your console, it doesn't render your console useless, you just can't play online. How is that gona regulate negative PR is beyond me because since Day 1 people know Microsoft gona ban them but it's just them being "optimistic" that it won't happen.

4. Until we seen real figure, nobody can vouch for its credibility.

5. I don't think that will happen, the most is hiding the identity of modded console, not playing pirated games online. It didn't happen in xbox 1 so i doubt it will happen for xb360.

So here is a point for ponder. Why do you think banning from Xbox Live is bad? Are you being selfish?? Just to allow you to play pirated game online now you want Microsoft to open up the opportunity for every unethic hackers to come up with hacks for games online? How will those who pay alot more for the legitimate copies feel? (probably feel like a tard laugh.gif ) You still can play pirated games on your console, it's fair isn't it? - general statement, not pointing at anyone.

QUOTE(mayatsan @ May 20 2007, 08:14 AM)
AND THINK... HOW ABOUT THIS IF ITS GONNA HAPPEN???
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Was talking to my manager over this during lunch, she says it is possible that we won't be able to 'pasar malam' our old games anymore because we are buying the rights to the game, and not the DVD itself. So Microsoft can technically limit the disc to a single machine - provided that what applies to computer software holds true here as well.

That is not gona happen anytime soon, Microsoft will be fighting alone with all the american hypermarket giant! If that ever hits, we are not the first one to be worried!

QUOTE(mayatsan @ May 20 2007, 08:14 AM)
That's y.....M$ should launch official Xbox360 in Malaysia as they did in China. They sold the ori game in china market so cheap...bcoz they want to stop those piracy things...y that capitalism M$ cant do this in Malaysia......ooohhh come on 60 SD is not the same as RM50...they pinned us so bad...they should have the strategy on how to tackle the consumer...but yet they failed...enuf with the defect product...wut they did are taking the advantage on us...oh come on just launch it in malaysia and we will have a better consumer rights...they lauched it in all IT/ICT asian countries such as japan, korea,india,singapore and even china....dun we have our cyberjaya which M$ invest where so called their "2nd Silicon Valley" in asian region....sssighhh M$ capitalism at its best...

That's why we need to show Microsoft Malaysia has a market here, if we keep buying pirated games all the way how will that ever happen? They launch in China because everyone want a piece of china now eventhough piracy rate is terrible there now but, you get the point..i am not economist tongue.gif India? I guess India is just part of the important region for Microsoft because lots of IT professional from there.
You can say Microsoft did nothing about this and sometimes we always getting unfair treament but have you ever think Microsoft actually offer us CHEAPER game compare to PS3 (where alot of user here say if this & that happen, i will buy PS3) Xb360 games manufacture in Singapore are way cheaper compare to buying US version?

PC gaming just started to have localize version lately at the price of lower than RM100. That don't come in the blink of an eye, it comes after all those year of "struggling". It started with competitive gaming scene, then alot buy ORI just so they can play online. More and more people do that...company like EA and others started to print Localize version in BM and we got a cheaper ori deal.

If anyone have the rights to complain about expensive games and unfair treatment, Europe should be the first in line because they always get screwed in the ass. Games in UK are selling at 40 per copy!!! That's way too much even for its standard of living. If anyone has the right to pirate games, Europe should do it first.

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QUOTE(Lurker @ May 20 2007, 11:44 AM)
LOL... then all msian xbox360 users is goin to be banned??

btw.. i hear news that M$ is hiring staffs for a local setup.. maybe launching soon?
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QUOTE(ganaz-x @ May 20 2007, 11:44 AM)
Rubbing salt on the wound heh heh heh  tongue.gif

Most criticisms leveled at the Xbox Live service concern the Xbox Live Marketplace. The service has come under fire from both gamers and the gaming press for charging for downloadable content. In many such cases, users failed to see the value of the content.

Notable incidents include a horse armor download for Oblivion costing $2 and Microsoft charging for a Gears of War map pack that developer Epic wished to give away for free (it will become a free download 4 months later).
Game Informer also said that Microsoft forced other companies to charge for content they wanted to give out for free.

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Oh looky here. Something I picked up on the net. Notice the statement in bold:

On May 17, 2007, Microsoft started banning modified firmware consoles. Users with modified firmware will be banned permanently from Xbox Live, says Microsoft. After the first day of mass banning, Microsoft Germany executive Boris Schneider-Johne said: "You can get banned and exact same firmware ban code error if you have a overseas account with non valid address; You paid with a overseas credit card where the address does not agree with the address used in Xbox Live."
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Is this true??? Where is the link? If that happens, lots of us will get ban! (so far none of that happen yet)

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Actually, this ban is kind of a blessing in disguise for me.
No more whoring for gamerscore biggrin.gif
I'll still buy ori games though. Eternal Sonata and Mass Effect. Oh gods.
Only think I'll be missing is the XBLA games. Boo.
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QUOTE(acougan @ May 20 2007, 12:19 PM)
huh? except for mexico, the other 4 countries dont have official LIVE and china is not launched just like Msia.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Mexico is one of three countries that fall under North America Free Trade Agreement with US..even with the piracy rates touch 99% for Mexico, I believes the xbox will be officially launched there...there is an unconfirmed news that xbox 360 will be launched in China too...but, I do believe that the game price will be at par with the one sold at Hong Kong....or else....there will be tonnes of export of China version games to the HK market.....just my 2 cents... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Zephro @ May 20 2007, 12:33 PM)
Actually, this ban is kind of a blessing in disguise for me.
No more whoring for gamerscore biggrin.gif
I'll still buy ori games though. Eternal Sonata and Mass Effect. Oh gods.
Only think I'll be missing is the XBLA games. Boo.
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thats weird. maybe its not my turn yet for the banhammer cos my GS is so low? muahaha, they do the bans in waves, starting from high GS downwards or they must pity me cos i sucked bad at achievements tongue.gif tongue.gif

yes it is a blessing in disguise. like i said earlier, this all actually makes local launch more feasible. if pirated games kenot go online, ppl who care abt LIVE MP will save up for ori. ironic but thats the way it goes.

my only wishlist for a local launch is that they can offer demo download stations and demo kiosks in at least one official shop. that way, customers can just bring their HDD to grab the demos very quickly (not thanks to streamyx) smile.gif


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QUOTE(ganaz-x @ May 20 2007, 11:23 AM)
MS is being bollocks when it comes to introducing Live services here in Malaysia. Below are the software piracy rate in certain countries for the year 2004:

1. China: 92%
2. India: 73%
3. Venezuela: 72%
4. Chile: 63%
5. Mexico: 63%

All the countries above has Live services whereas Malaysia with software piracy rate of 63% is being left out. And mind you, the data shown if for the year 2004. I bet with the ongoing crackdown on software piracy here, the latest stats will be lower  vmad.gif  mad.gif


Added on May 20, 2007, 11:29 amOh looky here. Something I picked up on the net. Notice the statement in bold:

On May 17, 2007, Microsoft started banning modified firmware consoles. Users with modified firmware will be banned permanently from Xbox Live, says Microsoft. After the first day of mass banning, Microsoft Germany executive Boris Schneider-Johne said: "You can get banned and exact same firmware ban code error if you have a overseas account with non valid address; You paid with a overseas credit card where the address does not agree with the address used in Xbox Live."
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Is not Microsoft Xbox 360 doens't want to come to Malaysia. And not just only piracy, There are something else then that.

laugh.gif that statement if is true, all malaysia gamers bising to Majornelson already laugh.gif but anyway I doubt that statement is true.
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i did not kena ban hammer but my machine 3ROD last night.

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QUOTE(leenaz @ May 20 2007, 09:54 AM)
for ur information
in my room also
i got 3 footer aquarium tank+pump everytime keep on rolling + 20Wx4 lighting 8 hours perday for my aquatic plant inside my aquarium

also i got nano tank with pump 24hrs/7 keep on rolling + 20W lighting also for my CRS + plant inside

tongue.gif

not to mention my pc also 24/7 online for torrent donlod
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^^ haha there u go..

At the moment, as far as i read from other forum, user with latest xtreme firmware (modded) still not banned provided u only play original disc when online.
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This is not a discussion about a person life. Everyone is sinful.
Since we are here about gaming, and Xb360.

If you want full service, get the original version. Straight to the point, down to earth.
You pay for what you get & you also do the right thing by helping the local scene abit. It's abit sad coming to UK and my lecturer do knows about the "seriousness" of Malaysia piracy. When i heard malaysia started to have crackdown on pirated goods, i was half-glad/relief because IMO, i do prefer the ori is the mainstream market while pirated market go underground, not the other way round. That way, we also got a better image for our country! In UK piracy exist too but you need to find your way, you can't get it easily like Malaysia do while for original games we need to SEARCH for it!!!

What's so wrong with the console getting ban since it's modded. Just get an ori version and play on Live. You keep the pirated games to yourself, you still can play on Live. Nobody gona care whether you torrent 9999 of the software movies out there because nobody judge you at the first place?
I thought everyone was okay with that, they wana try out game first then only decide to go for full retail version? If that's their intention, what's the big fuzz about the ban now? The only reason people don't wana get ban is because they still wana play pirated version on Live???
I remember since the day modded xb360 is out, everybody knew down the road Modded machine will get ban eventually but they still go for it, some even thought it won't happen. doh.gif Now it happens, why blame Microsoft?? It's just your own fault for having faith in the un-ethic modding scene. Real modders don't support that, real modders only try to unleash the hidden power of the machine, not trying to get things cheap! (waseh..sound so gay tongue.gif )


Talking about hypocrite, i sees alot of people adhere to the belief of hating boasting, show off & arrogance yet they themselves keep boasting about modding or pirated games like :
"i can play this game faster"
"i just need to pay few bux still can play on Live"
"my hardware is superior"
"i can install this & that, lol @ your unmod console" (just when i thought people here always argue with the point they go for console instead of PC because of its simplecity, now they wana make it so complicated?) etc etc.

What's the difference with the hate of "someone" showing with all the product he can purchase in this world etc etc. I see it as the same hypocrite.


I am not against modders because at some point i will also mod my secondary box for homebrew function. The point i want to make is, if everyone just play the game, talk the game. What's there to argue? Nobody will even know yours are modded!

You got pure unmod machine. You buy the game you like.
Kudos to you! Achievement unlock. 50 pts.

You got modded machine & unmod machine. When you see the game you like, you buy ori. Kudos to you!
Achievement unlock. 20 pts.

You got only modded machine. When you see the game you like, you STILL buy ori.
Kudos to you! Achievement unlock. 40 pts.

You got only modded machine. When you see the game you like, you er....nothing.
No Achievement.
Well, no gamerscore only...so? Nobody gona judge you also.

So, can anyone enlighten me what is left to argue about the ban?

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You got only modded machine. When you see the game you like, you er....nothing.
No Achievement. <--should be a negative achievement, say -100 points? tongue.gif laugh.gif
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Yeah... the thing i hate the most is when someone likes to judge others just bcoz he owns a modded console. Talk down on such ppl as if he's so righteous compared to those who uses a modded console. To each his own, no need to judge others. doh.gif
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You got only modded machine. When you see the game you like, you er....nothing.
No Achievement.  <--should be a negative achievement, say -100 points?  tongue.gif laugh.gif
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If he talks about it publicly in LYN forum, then yeah...-100 pts. laugh.gif
Although console couch don't have a proper rules & regulation set yet, but we are still working on it with all the gaming mods and it will come in due time.

For now, just take reference from pc section (gamers hideout). Strictly no warez talk! flex.gif
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You got only modded machine. When you see the game you like, you er....nothing.
No Achievement.  <--should be a negative achievement, say -100 points?  tongue.gif laugh.gif
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Should be

You got only modded machine. When you see the game you like, you er....nothing.
Achievement unlocked 0G....ahahahahhaha like u skip tutorial for C&C3....hahahah i know who has it.....SC*T whistling.gif
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Should be

You got only modded machine. When you see the game you like, you er....nothing.
Achievement unlocked 0G....ahahahahhaha like u skip tutorial for C&C3....hahahah i know who has it.....SC*T  whistling.gif
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21. Welcome to 2047
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if game is below rm100 for original i sure will support it, but it dont seem will happen anytime soon but if can i also want to support ori and is not that ppl dont want to support ori just that some cannot afford it for me i buy ori and pirate....
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QUOTE(squall_12 @ May 20 2007, 09:00 PM)
if game is below rm100 for original i sure will support it, but it dont seem will happen anytime soon but if can i also want to support ori and is not that ppl dont want to support ori just that some cannot afford it for me i buy ori and pirate....
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QUOTE(squall_12 @ May 20 2007, 09:00 PM)
if game is below rm100 for original i sure will support it, but it dont seem will happen anytime soon but if can i also want to support ori and is not that ppl dont want to support ori just that some cannot afford it for me i buy ori and pirate....
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Yaya and once its below RM100, someone will want games below RM50 and it goes on and on and on yawn.gif

Its either Yay or Nay want to support ori, that's all and yea Siebel is right, 2nd games are cheaper but ppl still buy pirated games, i wonder why is that? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(squall_12 @ May 20 2007, 09:00 PM)
if game is below rm100 for original i sure will support it, but it dont seem will happen anytime soon but if can i also want to support ori and is not that ppl dont want to support ori just that some cannot afford it for me i buy ori and pirate....
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It's not that some cannot afford it. This is all about making a choice and sticking with it.

Alotta kids spend alot of money on pirated games but cumulatively.

Rm100 will get you 10 pirated games.

RM100 will get you 1 original game.

So the typical 'value-conscious' consumer would say, "Wah, liddet I better buy pirated game! RM10 only! RM100 is soooo expensive!"

But what you don't realize is that at the end, you still spend RM100.

You'll buy a RM10 pirated game every week for 10 weeks.
OR you can buy a RM100 original game every 10 weeks. Make a CHOICE.

So don't come on about games not being affordable or whatnot. The average kid gamer spends alot on pirated games because they choose to have "value" over moral and ethics.

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Why not do the next best thing...RENT IT at your friendly Gamers Hideout.

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i do buy ori thou for games i play online but problem nowaday for console like xbox360 is very hard to find unmodded in my place(penang) and got no shop like master DjiNn can rent games and sell ori shop, so most of the time i buy online but still i hope ori can promote better in whole malaysia not only part of malaysia like KL for example...so i hope future malaysia have better support for ori games....but right now it seem still very far away sad.gif

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thats rite redbull_y2k...some people like to judge others especially people that already modded their xbox360...

well for me i dont care bout it, as far im concern i`ve both originals and pirated games..if i like the games i will purchased the originals, if so so i will purchased the pirated.

not because budget,but it is good to have console which is play both originals and pirated games...

and some people dont know where la, only purchased the originals 360 game....come on heheh...every single malaysians at least have some pirated things....especially on DVD movies rite?

and also i know they wont admit that they already modded their console..so just say i play original one larr...hehe..


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This is not a discussion about a person life. Everyone is sinful.
Since we are here about gaming, and Xb360.

If you want full service, get the original version. Straight to the point, down to earth.
You pay for what you get & you also do the right thing by helping the local scene abit. It's abit sad coming to UK and my lecturer do knows about the "seriousness" of Malaysia piracy. When i heard malaysia started to have crackdown on pirated goods, i was half-glad/relief because IMO, i do prefer the ori is the mainstream market while pirated market go underground, not the other way round. That way, we also got a better image for our country! In UK piracy exist too but you need to find your way, you can't get it easily like Malaysia do while for original games we need to SEARCH for it!!!

What's so wrong with the console getting ban since it's modded. Just get an ori version and play on Live. You keep the pirated games to yourself, you still can play on Live. Nobody gona care whether you torrent 9999 of the software movies out there because nobody judge you at the first place?
I thought everyone was okay with that, they wana try out game first then only decide to go for full retail version? If that's their intention, what's the big fuzz about the ban now? The only reason people don't wana get ban is because they still wana play pirated version on Live???
I remember since the day modded xb360 is out, everybody knew down the road Modded machine will get ban eventually but they still go for it, some even thought it won't happen. doh.gif Now it happens, why blame Microsoft?? It's just your own fault for having faith in the un-ethic modding scene. Real modders don't support that, real modders only try to unleash the hidden power of the machine, not trying to get things cheap! (waseh..sound so gay tongue.gif )
Talking about hypocrite, i sees alot of people adhere to the belief of hating boasting, show off & arrogance yet they themselves keep boasting about modding or pirated games like :
"i can play this game faster"
"i just need to pay few bux still can play on Live"
"my hardware is superior"
"i can install this & that, lol @ your unmod console" (just when i thought people here always argue with the point they go for console  instead of PC because of its simplecity, now they wana make it so complicated?) etc etc.

What's the difference with the hate of "someone" showing with all the product he can purchase in this world etc etc. I see it as the same hypocrite.
I am not against modders because at some point i will also mod my secondary box for homebrew function. The point i want to make is, if everyone just play the game, talk the game. What's there to argue? Nobody will even know yours are modded!

You got pure unmod machine. You buy the game you like.
Kudos to you! Achievement unlock. 50 pts.

You got modded machine & unmod machine. When you see the game you like, you buy ori. Kudos to you!
Achievement unlock. 20 pts.

You got only modded machine. When you see the game you like, you STILL buy ori.
Kudos to you! Achievement unlock. 40 pts.

You got only modded machine. When you see the game you like, you er....nothing.
No Achievement.
Well, no gamerscore only...so? Nobody gona judge you also.

So, can anyone enlighten me what is left to argue about the ban?
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QUOTE(squall_12 @ May 20 2007, 09:21 PM)
i do buy ori thou for games i play online but problem nowaday for console like xbox360 is very hard to find unmodded in my place(penang) and got no shop like master DjiNn can rent games and sell ori shop, so most of the time i buy online but still i hope ori can promote better in whole malaysia not only part of malaysia like KL for example...so i hope future malaysia have better support for ori games....but right now it seem still very far away sad.gif
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Hmm what amazes me in this whole thread is that there are people who are claiming its unfair for Microsoft to ban modded consoles..

Talk about out of this planet perspective..
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QUOTE(Xrated @ May 20 2007, 09:26 PM)
thats rite redbull_y2k...some people like to judge others especially people that already modded their xbox360...

well for me i dont care bout it, as far im concern i`ve both originals and pirated games..if i like the games i will purchased the originals, if so so i will purchased the pirated.

not because budget,but it is good to have console which is play both originals and pirated games...

and some people dont know where la, only purchased the originals 360 game....come on heheh...every single malaysians at least have some pirated things....especially on DVD movies rite?

and also i know they wont admit that they already modded their console..so just say i play original one larr...hehe..
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This is the kind of post that will trigger more fights between ori vs pirated.
It's a fact ORI is the only way to go, PIRATED is a no-go. So you will just have to live with it. We need to change Malaysia market. Original product have to be on the surface, pirated product goto go underground or black market. That's the way it always should be.

Problem with Malaysian mindset now is we are too keen on resorting to excuse of "original are hard to comeby". If we ever have the intention, the will...there are always way for it. Take a look at Gurdian brilliant post, you will get the picture.

Sometimes you really can't blame the original user for having the righteous talk. It's just a fact - how will you feel when you pay RM100 for something and yet you see someone beside you pay RM10 and get almost the same thing as you? You feel rip off & angry right? If you are always proud and showing off your modded/pirated stuff, hell ya the legitimate user will always fireback - it's your fault!

Just like police are not always right but they are the rules enforcer. We can't make do without police although there are some corrupted one. If the police in Malaysia all resign, Malaysia just need 1 day to become Afghanistan.
Same as original copies of game/user. They are the one backbone of the market. Without them, there won't be any games.

So if you want people to stop judging you - stop promoting, advertising or discuss anything to do with pirated game.

If you really have intention of buying oris eventhough you own pirated version, you will certainly NOT be PISSED at the banning.
If you are PISSED, it clearly shows that you have no intention of supporting the gaming scene at the first place!
Stop trying to take things out of context, it's politically correct that Microsoft ban modded console.

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not because budget,but it is good to have console which is play both originals and pirated games...

That is the modding-scene problem already right? It's not Microsoft problem. If Microsoft don't ban alot of issues will arise :
-More legitimate user will give up buying original since it doesn't matter
-Cheaters will be roaming free like PC games. It happen in Halo 2 before.
-Original retail shop will be struggling as if there are not struggling now.

So my take is try to support those shop that prioritize on original games like Gamers Hideout, Gamers.com.my, New Era, PCGAME.com.my etc etc because we need them.

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PLEASE STOP MAKING THOSE WALLS OF TEXT!
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QUOTE(aegis`- @ May 20 2007, 10:26 PM)
wei seriously haha pj u make me sleepy :s
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Hey, there is always the knot here. Ori shout at Pirated, Pirated shout at ori.
It has goto stop...so i am taking my chances here with the ban announcement & discussion.
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haha but come on u really have the time to start a damm newspaper article at this hour my god and its monday tommorow argh
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It's break now and i only work part time 3 days a week. wink.gif  UK life very free one...
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Your life is free...

But everything you need to have a life is expensive tongue.gif

I heard from my friend he paid 1 pound for 30 mins in an internet cafe.

Here in Malaysia with nice aircon and lots of nice games it's 25p per hour if converted to pounds laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Hamster X @ May 20 2007, 10:39 PM)
Your life is free...

But everything you need to have a life is expensive tongue.gif

I heard from my friend he paid 1 pound for 30 mins in an internet cafe.

Here in Malaysia with nice aircon and lots of nice games it's 25p per hour if converted to pounds laugh.gif
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I work part time 3 days a week, just two week i can earn a flight tix back to Malaysia liaw.
Really? I am going there in sept. Maybe I can consider working part-time too.
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Really? I am going there in sept. Maybe I can consider working part-time too.
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Of course you can. Any student with a UK visa are permit to work 20-hours a week, unlimited hours during summer.
Thing is alot of employee don't care about visa no visa, so it really depends on where you work. Just make sure you get your National Insurance number for your guarantee on standard minimum pay.

If you are hardworking type you can even work 3 jobs during your holiday, given that your job are flexible one like my friend. People use job to fill up their time here because it's really boring as the nightlife aren't as exciting as Malaysia.
Problem is i am not the hardworking type, result so-so, work also lazy...just game game game & a girl friend. So...that's how i fill my time laugh.gif

Also, if you graduate here & i remember correctly, there is a new scheme now that every Malaysian who graduate here are qualify for a 1 year extension of working permit. Not just part time, a proper job. So while you are here, try to earn as much pound as you can.

Shiat, i damn off-topic now myself. A mod...sorry notworthy.gif

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If you are hardworking type you can even work 3 jobs during your holiday, given that your job are flexible one like my friend. People use job to fill up their time here because it's really boring as the nightlife aren't as exciting as Malaysia.
Problem is i am not the hardworking type, result so-so, work also lazy...just game game game & a girl friend. So...that's how i fill my time laugh.gif
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Hmm... last time I checked, those who flashed their firmware but made a backup of the original firmware should be safe if microsoft starts banning... as long as they don't get banned first.

now this really intrigues me... does it really work? I mean flashing back to the original firmware and going on live without getting the banhammer?


anyone tried?
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getting back at the topic, anyone with virgin box been banned or know someone with virgin box been banned? seems there's alot of people saying they been ban in xbox.com eventho their box still virgin. one of the guy been banned have only 7 games, surely he's not modded rite? yet in bob.com.sg there's not even one guy complained been mistakenly banned. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cannavaro @ May 20 2007, 11:09 PM)
Hmm... last time I checked, those who flashed their firmware but made a backup of the original firmware should be safe if microsoft starts banning... as long as they don't get banned first.

now this really intrigues me... does it really work? I mean flashing back to the original firmware and going on live without getting the banhammer?
anyone tried?
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1 noobie question. i tot ms cannot detect dvdrom mod?
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ May 20 2007, 11:23 PM)
1 noobie question. i tot ms cannot detect dvdrom mod?
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they cant detect but the latest update must have been able to see it and sent some logs over to ms
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QUOTE(aegis`- @ May 20 2007, 11:29 PM)
they cant detect but the latest update must have been able to see it and sent some logs over to ms
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I think some at xbox-scene didn't do spring update also get ban.
Wait, must update only can connect to Live right?

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It was only ASSUMED that MS was not able to detect the mod. While others speculated that MS was just waiting for the right moment to do it.. and I guess this is the right moment.
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QUOTE(marauderz @ May 20 2007, 11:33 PM)
It was only ASSUMED that MS was not able to detect the mod. While others speculated that MS was just waiting for the right moment to do it.. and I guess this is the right moment.
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they are just waiting to collect as much xbox sales and one time bomb there goes
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Found this in xbox-scene forum

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OK, I have emailed a few hundred of my 360 customers and from a brief sample of responses this is what seems most likely:

1. Microsoft definitely detected back-up disc usage long before the Spring updates and compiled a list of console IDs.
2. Microsoft is now selectively banning from this list in waves (possibly as a ruse to disperse suspicion about what exactly it is they are detecting).

Here is an example of one customer's scenario:

1. Played back-ups until about two (2) months ago and then the Xbox died (3RoD).
2. Flashed console back to original firmware.
3. Replaced warranty sticker with new undamaged one (this is my specialty!)
4. Sent the console in under warranty and had it serviced (last month).
5. Console came back, still remaining unmodded.
6. Went on Live yesterday - immediately banned!

There you go - if you played back-ups two months ago you are !@#$ed!
It has NOTHING to do with what firmware you had during the recent updates!

Possibly what they detect is unstealthed back-ups - as a high percentage out there are still unstealthed! (amongst other things they could check for).

Interesting hmm.gif
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so if the mod is stealth, it will be undetected? so far, who doesn't get banned yet?
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Wow. That's sneaky. Hahahaha!
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ May 20 2007, 11:31 PM)
I think some at xbox-scene didn't do spring update also get ban.
Wait, must update only can connect to Live right?
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If didn't update then how to online Live? laugh.gif There's one guy who never play games for the past 2 months, only XBLA games. His console is modded n he did play copied games before that, just not recently. His console is also banned. So that means MS have been keeping track for a while already.
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Wow! Imagine being Jack Sparrow few months back, then decided to turn over new leaf, went legit, unmod the box, goes on Live and still kena banhammer...heh heh heh...pity sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ganaz-x @ May 20 2007, 11:43 PM)
Wow! Imagine being Jack Sparrow few months back, then decided to turn over new leaf, went legit, unmod the box, goes on Live and still kena banhammer...heh heh heh...pity  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ganaz-x @ May 20 2007, 11:43 PM)
Wow! Imagine being Jack Sparrow few months back, then decided to turn over new leaf, went legit, unmod the box, goes on Live and still kena banhammer...heh heh heh...pity  sweat.gif
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in MS views either you are black or white, no grey... sweat.gif
maybe now the manufacturing cost per-box has gone down enough to make a profit out of it so thats why they ban the console, make people go out and buy new set, which give MS higher number of sets sold. bet May NPD number for 360 is unusually higher than before. icon_idea.gif
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There's no per console profit for the 360, or the PS3, only console that has profit during sales is the Wii
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QUOTE(ganaz-x @ May 20 2007, 11:43 PM)
Wow! Imagine being Jack Sparrow few months back, then decided to turn over new leaf, went legit, unmod the box, goes on Live and still kena banhammer...heh heh heh...pity  sweat.gif
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want to pity also no use already. There already know its coming what~. unless.. they have no idea of it ?


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There's no per console profit for the 360, or the PS3, only console that has profit during sales is the Wii
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i dont think play backup games would cause the 3rod
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you all sure happy to see downfall of others ...50 years of Independent Malaysian Unite ..bah crap
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QUOTE(ganaz-x @ May 21 2007, 10:18 AM)
I dunno who u're refering to but I for one will not glee to see my fallen comrades  icon_rolleyes.gif I won't play the role of Mr. Righteous just bcoz my 360 is not modded.
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QUOTE(Zephro @ May 21 2007, 10:48 AM)
I probably won't be back on Live for a long time tongue.gif
Not gonna buy a core just to go online, lol.
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belum balik dari france lagi nih...hmmm once i get back to malaysia...update my 360...buy ori GOW..play online....hahahahahahah laugh.gif  laugh.gif HACKERS!!!!! do something plsssss whistling.gif
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Interesting read at Playnoevilplaynoevil

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Microsoft has moved to Phase 2 of its crackdown on players using & abusing their Xbox 360s, according ot Xboxic, Gamerscore, and others.

The first prong of this effort was to hunt down Game Save copies and disable them (see previous article). This is a nuisance for sports games and a problem for user-created content... but not fatal.

Yesterday, the big guns dropped. Microsoft has used the latest Xbox Live service update to detect kernel mods and unauthorized hard disk upgrades (no word on whether it catches the malicious DVD drive replacements that exposed a major piracy problem last spring and summer) and ban them from Xbox Live.

The choice has been to ban these people's Xbox 360s based on its console ID, not the player's Xbox Live account.


just curious on the Hardisk mod...anyone affected?
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QUOTE(Eisenmeteor @ May 21 2007, 10:57 AM)
But playing offline's not the main reason u get xbox rite?
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Considering most of the upcoming games I enjoy are single-player (Mass Effect, Eternal Sonata), I would say yes.
I have my PC for multiplayer games anyway.
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well it's entire up to him lah... same goes to others that flashed their 360. everyone knew the risk and up to them lah. everyone is an adult so consider mature enough to decide which is best or when is best or whatever... buying 360 doesnt mean have to be 100% playing on xbox live, it can be offline too lah. yes, with xbox live it rocks but not everyone got broadband at home also...

if you are not happy with someone using a flashed 360 then dont play with him/her lah. remove them from your friendlist... that's it. unless you still not satisfied then sue him/her till they drops their pant/skirt!

again, sometimes ppl also got difficulties along their journey and just cant afford originals during that time. so off course he/she must think of a best short time solution so if they decided to flashed/modded then let it be. who knows after the difficulties period he/she might be back again 100% original. if kena ban also it's their risk so up to them lah.

lastly, bro xrated please stop posting telling everyone that you can afford this and that and yet you choose to buy ahem games because of your own beliefs. you are insulting others that bought ori with their hard earned money... you decided on your own then go on lah have some respect on others. also same goes to the other way around... ori users dont just think those flashed/modded owner just do it for fun... some really tight on budget.

conclusion, it's your life up to you to decide what/which is best. when you decided just dont blame on others.

* there goes my thesis hours... haiii...

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Zephro..are u mods ur console?


Added on May 21, 2007, 11:45 amdoesnt mean people who modded their xbox360 cant afford to buy the originals game...they will buy the originals once if they really like that title so much...other then that they will buy the pirated 360 games for their xbox360.

well rm150 to rm180 for originals actually not that expensive...everyone can afford it, if not they wont bought the xbox360 machine...and if they buy the pirated, well he has his own rite....and he dont ask anybody to buy him a 360`s....his money his console...

sometimes i didnt like some of the forrumers which is so annoying to the gamers which is modded their xbox360...well we all here not to "GADUH" bout some of other people things....modded or not we all in one community...so be fair which each others..

i dont know lah if the gaduh type of people are just showing off here,well i think they also had the pirated things b4, so judge urself before u blaaammm blaaam others.....modded console? so what?....our console, our own money.


Added on May 21, 2007, 11:55 amwell judge.....i`ve lot collection of the xbox360 originals which i purchased via playasia , via my Bro in US and gameshop in KL...my originals are more then my pirated games.....well i bought the pirated just to test the game out and for fun...if great then i will go for originals...and bought it at gamershideout....regular there...

i hormat u and after this i wont insulting others...i promise u judge...i pun may be over at this moment because others member in here send me insulting things...bout hate so much to the modded console gamers...

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May 17, 2007 - Earlier this year Sony was caught using a screenshot of Microsoft's Project Gotham Racing 3 to promote Gran Turismo 4. When the accident was pointed out, Sony quickly removed the shot and replaced it with a proper still of GT4. But it looks like Sony may not have learned from the mistake, as TeamXbox has found the company apparently using PGR3 to promote its products again.

Sony is running a promotion with Kia automobiles in Spain, and the Website for the tie-in was seen blatantly displaying a screenshot featuring a Ferrari with a PGR-branded license plate. The shot has again been removed and replaced with a car from Ridge Racer, but not before TeamXbox did a screen capture:

ps: damn funny but true smile.gif
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QUOTE(judge-the @ May 21 2007, 11:29 AM)
well it's entire up to him lah... same goes to others that flashed their 360. everyone knew the risk and up to them lah. everyone is an adult so consider mature enough to decide which is best or when is best or whatever... buying 360 doesnt mean have to be 100% playing on xbox live, it can be offline too lah. yes, with xbox live it rocks but not everyone got broadband at home also...

if you are not happy with someone using a flashed 360 then dont play with him/her lah. remove them from your friendlist... that's it. unless you still not satisfied then sue him/her till they drops their pant/skirt!

again, sometimes ppl also got difficulties along their journey and just cant afford originals during that time. so off course he/she must think of a best short time solution so if they decided to flashed/modded then let it be. who knows after the difficulties period he/she might be back again 100% original. if kena ban also it's their risk so up to them lah.

lastly, bro xrated please stop posting telling everyone that you can afford this and that and yet you choose to buy ahem games because of your own beliefs. you are insulting others that bought ori with their hard earned money... you decided on your own then go on lah have some respect on others. also same goes to the other way around... ori users dont just think those flashed/modded owner just do it for fun... some really tight on budget.

conclusion, it's your life up to you to decide what/which is best. when you decided just dont blame on others.

* there goes my thesis hours... haiii...
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yup.....agree on your comment about "xrated"... too....its either ori or non-ori..as each of us has our own reasons...but pls dont bring that "bullshit excuse" blaming it on your believe...It just like saying..I can afford ferrari..but i use proton only..because it is a malaysian car..even pak lah will say "bring it on that red ferrari into my garage"....just kidding.... icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Xrated @ May 21 2007, 11:31 AM)
Zephro..are u mods ur console?


Added on May 21, 2007, 11:45 amdoesnt mean people who modded their xbox360 cant afford to buy the originals game...they will buy the originals once if they really like that title so much...other then that they will buy the pirated 360 games for their  xbox360.

well rm150 to rm180 for originals actually not that expensive...everyone can afford it, if not they wont bought the xbox360 machine...and if they buy the pirated, well he has his own rite....and he dont ask anybody to buy him a 360`s....his money his console...

sometimes i didnt like some of the forrumers which is so annoying to the gamers which is modded their xbox360...well we all here not to "GADUH" bout some of other people things....modded or not we all in one community...so be fair which each others..

i dont know lah if the gaduh type of people are just showing off here,well i think they also had the pirated things b4, so judge urself before u blaaammm blaaam others.....modded console? so what?....our console, our own money.
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like i said earlier... some really tight on budget. you different case lah since you been busy telling ppl you got no probs with $$$. it's your path so enjoy your path my friend... well if you kept on posting like that apa yg tak gaduh lah...

please take note some ppl do really only can afford buying the console only! if this the case then how? tell him/her dont buy 360 because you only can afford the console? we dont know what will happen later but there's always a possibility he/she might go for ori one day in the future.

so your money your life your decision up to you. no one can do anything to you.


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QUOTE(Xrated @ May 21 2007, 11:31 AM)
Zephro..are u mods ur console?


Added on May 21, 2007, 11:45 amdoesnt mean people who modded their xbox360 cant afford to buy the originals game...they will buy the originals once if they really like that title so much...other then that they will buy the pirated 360 games for their  xbox360.

well rm150 to rm180 for originals actually not that expensive...everyone can afford it, if not they wont bought the xbox360 machine...and if they buy the pirated, well he has his own rite....and he dont ask anybody to buy him a 360`s....his money his console...

sometimes i didnt like some of the forrumers which is so annoying to the gamers which is modded their xbox360...well we all here not to "GADUH" bout some of other people things....modded or not we all in one community...so be fair which each others..

i dont know lah if the gaduh type of people are just showing off here,well i think they also had the pirated things b4, so judge urself before u blaaammm blaaam others.....modded console? so what?....our console, our own money.


Added on May 21, 2007, 11:55 amwell judge.....i`ve lot collection of the xbox360 originals which i purchased via playasia , via my Bro in US and gameshop in KL...my originals are more then my pirated games.....well i bought the pirated just to test the game out and for fun...if great then i will go for originals...and bought it at gamershideout....regular there...

i hormat u and after this i wont insulting others...i promise u judge...i pun may be over at this moment because others member in here send me insulting things...bout hate so much to the modded console gamers...
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glad to see that you are buying originals too... but maybe yours beliefs and mine not very ngam only but that doesnt mean you wrong or me wrong. just separate individul beliefs only...

no prob at all i just hope after this no more those blame here and there... anyone made a decision then live on with it.

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QUOTE(adli @ May 21 2007, 12:10 PM)
lek lek, lets all unite n have good ol fun during consoul 2007 (wei djinn i promote consoul no commission ha? kidding kidding). smile.gif
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nuthing happen, i think they all just a couple talk (ghey alert)
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QUOTE(ghostdevice @ May 21 2007, 12:28 PM)
mod tmnet wei pakai fibre ahahahha hampeh g wat projek kat Pakistan leh lak pakai fibre kat mesia copper hampeh nie dah 50 tahun merdeka
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well guys...
there is always some pirated thing on you... When you are in Malaysia...
even SG ppl also have... jus the cost living the affected us greatly than SG...
Earn the same amount(RM2500 for Malaysian but SGD2500 for Singaporean) but most of the things there cheaper...
Cos of the US conversion rate...
Well is jus that LY already set no discussion or selling of Pirated things...
so some member only angry when you are so proud of pirated things...
but nvm... jus kool down la...

I think Xbox360 is my only full Ori sets in the mean time... haha...

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my feelings is like this;

as long as u buy some (don't care how many or how used) official games with ur own hard-earned money, then u r ok ler. maybe achievement unlocked +100 points.

for those little kids saving up their allowances or part-timing or studying hard for good results so that their parents help them with official games, i really respect also. +200 points.

if u decide to make sacrifices and efforts to go 100% official/ori (buy/trade/rent) on the 360 to show MS Msia that launch here is feasible, then really my hats to u. +500 points.



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and lastly:

really nth wrong with enjoying ur pirated games or any other pirated goodss for that matter. if u r old enough to decide to enjoy ur pirated games, then u'll also realise there are plenty of other forums or messageboards where u r welcomed icon_rolleyes.gif



Added on

actually rgd this forumer Xrated, i really dunno much abt him/her or his/her post history. i dont feel his sig is in anyway boasting or mocking ori supporters. and last time when his site was still working, i think i saw dozens of official/ori games on his setup picts. notworthy.gif

anyway the beauty of this place is the /ignore function. it works icon_idea.gif

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the bottom line is software piracy is wrong. There are NO excuses for software piracy - especially the "can't afford" and "can try before you buy" excuses. If you can't afford, you don't buy. After all, gaming is A luxury, not a necessity.

if you can't afford ori games, you better prioritize your money on other essentials like food or books. Don't waste your precious money on stupid video games.

Don't get me wrong. I dont care if you play pirate or ori because that is your choice and right. I will not judge you. I do not despise you. In fact, I treat you just like anyone else. Ask around the gow players, do i discriminate against pirate users? i'm friends with anyone online.

But if you try to JUSTIFY piracy here or anywhere else, i will not keep my mouth shut. Until you dudes experience your own blood, sweat and tears being stolen, copied and resold without you seeing a cent of it, you wont understand what software piracy really is.

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Did this topic just beat the growth speed of the GoW v2 thread?!
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Everyone pirates something, no need to act like a bigshot just because your little niche is completely legal. Everyone would like a complete legal collection of something. Money is always a constraint.
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Not really. Some ppl learn to live with only the things that they can afford.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ May 21 2007, 03:03 PM)
Not really. Some ppl learn to live with only the things that they can afford.
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QUOTE(Hamster X @ May 21 2007, 03:01 PM)
Did this topic just beat the growth speed of the GoW v2 thread?!
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ May 21 2007, 03:10 PM)
I think so.... 2 days i'm not free... Boom.... at least 140 post...    sweat.gif
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Anyway can anyone list their name down if you're using a modded console so I can delete from FL before I get banned from playing with modders? hmm.gif
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i have an analogy...

gaming is like drug you see....

buy original games is like buying high quality drug.... you got style one and get most enjoyment out of using

buying pirated games is like buying pirated drugs... LOUSY quality one... what for use? don even get the same satisfaction from consumption somemore whats the point.

bear in mind i am no way condoning the use of drugs.. illegal drugs are ILLEGAL therefore should not be taken. this is for analogy purpose only mah..

ORI and GAMEAXIS FTW laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Hamster X @ May 21 2007, 03:13 PM)
Looks like GoW is going down the hill laugh.gif
Anyway can anyone list their name down if you're using a modded console so I can delete from FL before I get banned from playing with modders? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Hamster X @ May 21 2007, 03:13 PM)
Looks like GoW is going down the hill laugh.gif
Anyway can anyone list their name down if you're using a modded console so I can delete from FL before I get banned from playing with modders? hmm.gif
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is that true??? well, to not get u into trouble, u can delete me off from your list.
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QUOTE(ganaz-x @ May 21 2007, 03:19 PM)
Since when u can get banned for playing with frenz with modded consoles ni?
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I remember I heard in the Halo 2 forums months ago that someone was banned and he said that he hadn't been modding and it was his friends who were modding. Another user replied that you are not allowed to play with modders...

I don't know if this is only for Bungie but if it's true for Halo 2 no doubt it will happen again to someone in Halo 3.
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QUOTE(Hamster X @ May 21 2007, 03:53 PM)
I remember I heard in the Halo 2 forums months ago that someone was banned and he said that he hadn't been modding and it was his friends who were modding. Another user replied that you are not allowed to play with modders...

I don't know if this is only for Bungie but if it's true for Halo 2 no doubt it will happen again to someone in Halo 3.
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maybe his one is modded also..
only the reseller n the owner know..
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QUOTE(thurtin @ May 21 2007, 02:54 PM)
the bottom line is software piracy is wrong. There are NO excuses for software piracy - especially the "can't afford" and "can try before you buy" excuses. If you can't afford, you don't buy. After all, gaming is A luxury, not a necessity.

if you can't afford ori games, you better prioritize your money on other essentials like food or books. Don't waste your precious money on stupid video games. 
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QUOTE(hairuLeZ @ May 21 2007, 04:02 PM)
woo...very offensive statement though  unsure.gif  This is pity for gamers who enjoy gamez but couldnt afford 1. Basically, there is more points to take into consideration  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I think he said it very well. Gaming is not a necessity. So are movies, music, or entertainment in general. The rule of thumb is that if you can't afford it, doesn't mean you can steal it.

I am no saint of course. But I do understand where the anti-piracy statement is coming from.
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since when on earth playing with modders will get u banned..if they kena banned liao how they wan to play with u....unless u play over LAN...

P.S...I Ingat u using mobius account to play ?...he give u the permission to delete ? lol sweat.gif
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Yes yes... don't flame...

Whatever it is they want to do... mod or not... it's up to them... their business and so is ours...

I have people calling me "stupid" or "dumb a$$" because I don't mod my Playstation 1 and 2 and buy expensive U.S. Version games... I don't mind... just don't get too personal...
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hehe my fren also surprise that i don buy modded...
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QUOTE(ganaz-x @ May 21 2007, 03:59 PM)
No way that's gonna happen. How are we supposed to know if the other party modded his/her console or not.
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It was in Halo 2 and the guy said he was playing with his friends. That probably means he was playing a friendly organised game and Bungie keeps track of pretty much everything that happens in Halo 2/3. I don't think I can find a link for it cause it's been so long that I read it. Modders in Halo 2 usually go to where they alter some of the data so they can fire faster, stronger, or they can jump damn high.

I don't think playing matchmaking will get you in any trouble but I guess they keep track of your gaming records in organised games somehow. Maybe just Bungie getting commission from MS hmm.gif
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Does this means, we'll see a lot of 2nd hand XBox360 on sale with attractive price soon?
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QUOTE(Hamster X @ May 21 2007, 08:43 PM)
It was in Halo 2 and the guy said he was playing with his friends. That probably means he was playing a friendly organised game and Bungie keeps track of pretty much everything that happens in Halo 2/3. I don't think I can find a link for it cause it's been so long that I read it. Modders in Halo 2 usually go to where they alter some of the data so they can fire faster, stronger, or they can jump damn high.

I don't think playing matchmaking will get you in any trouble but I guess they keep track of your gaming records in organised games somehow. Maybe just Bungie getting commission from MS hmm.gif
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I think that's probably you read it wrong.
He was ban from Halo 2 matchmaking but his xbox was not ban from Live.

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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ May 21 2007, 09:46 PM)
I think that's probably you read it wrong.
He was ban from Halo 2 matchmaking but his xbox was not ban from Live.

Mobius, where are you? Need to do something before people kill him.... laugh.gif
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ok pj is on dont start those article thingy if theres any chance u could start haha
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Start with...

Lets move on peepz. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ May 21 2007, 09:46 PM)
I think that's probably you read it wrong.
He was ban from Halo 2 matchmaking but his xbox was not ban from Live.

Mobius, where are you? Need to do something before people kill him.... laugh.gif
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You've got some professional England for someone who lives in England whistling.gif

Then you've read it too... I don't mind matchmaking outside Halo but in Halo it's worth deleting accounts from FL.
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QUOTE(Hamster X @ May 21 2007, 10:26 PM)
You've got some professional England for someone who lives in England whistling.gif

Then you've read it too... I don't mind matchmaking outside Halo but in Halo it's worth deleting accounts from FL.
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so have you delete those people from your friendlist? or izzit mobius friendlist?
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What are the consequences of Microsoft's crackdown?

With Microsoft using the latest Xbox Live service update to detect kernel mods and unauthorized hard disk upgrades and in turn to ban the player's Xbox 360s based on its console ID, rather than the player's Xbox Live account. With the possibility of players selling their banned 360's on ebay, this presents a big customer relation problem for Microsoft when the new owner can't get on live. Is banning an expensive way to go?

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Steve's Ban Circumvention strategy? (PlayNoEvil would, obviously not do anything so... evil)

So, what is going to happen:

1. Banned player sells banned Xbox 360 on Ebay.

2. New player signs up for the totally cool Xbox Live service that he heard so much about.

3. Gets bounced.

4. Calls Xbox Live Customer Service.

5. What will Microsoft do?

A. Reinstate the machine?
B. Tell the person "tough luck"?
C. Both, at random.

If they reinstate the box, this opens up the lazy circumvention strategy of skipping that whole "sell on eBay" thing and just try to get reinstated.

If they tell the person "tough luck"... Microsoft is going to have an UGLY CUSTOMER RELATIONS PROBLEM (followed by some nasty stories in the news) which should lead back to Answer A.

Even stupider option for Xbox Customer service - tell the naive purchasing person to "fix" their Xbox so that it isnt' hacked anymore.

I tend to argue strongly against banning. It is directly expensive and can have "highly entertaining" unforeseen consequences.

Also, if Microsoft hits "critical mass" with its banning activities, it may encourage the creation of a "guerrilla Xbox Live" that could spur further piracy.

What should Microsoft do?


Added on May 22, 2007, 3:08 pmC4eva working on 'iXtreme' hacked firmware for Xbox 360 online
PrivateJohn : If their words can be taken seriously, there wouldn't be any ban in the first place!

SO WTF WITH M$????????TRYIN TO BE GUD?????NO WAY HACKERS ARE MUCH MORE BETTER THAN U AND THERE IS NO WAY U CAN STOP US whistling.gif whistling.gif

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wow... hackers going for something again... sweat.gif

i think banning or delete the gamertag more efficient...
coz that make their gamer score to nothing... which is a hard hit!!!
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ May 22 2007, 03:14 PM)
wow... hackers going for something again...  sweat.gif

i think banning or delete the gamertag more efficient...
coz that make their gamer score to nothing... which is a hard hit!!!
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QUOTE(Hamster X @ May 21 2007, 10:26 PM)
You've got some professional England for someone who lives in England whistling.gif

Then you've read it too... I don't mind matchmaking outside Halo but in Halo it's worth deleting accounts from FL.
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ May 22 2007, 03:14 PM)
wow... hackers going for something again...  sweat.gif

i think banning or delete the gamertag more efficient...
coz that make their gamer score to nothing... which is a hard hit!!!
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Well..this is wat we call brain and technology. Hackers will always have a way. Neverending story. Your choice..
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QUOTE(hairuLeZ @ May 22 2007, 03:21 PM)
Well..this is wat we call brain and technology. Hackers will always have a way. Neverending story. Your choice..
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QUOTE(ganaz-x @ May 21 2007, 03:19 PM)
Since when u can get banned for playing with frenz with modded consoles ni?
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QUOTE(Hamster X @ May 21 2007, 03:53 PM)
I remember I heard in the Halo 2 forums months ago that someone was banned and he said that he hadn't been modding and it was his friends who were modding. Another user replied that you are not allowed to play with modders...

I don't know if this is only for Bungie but if it's true for Halo 2 no doubt it will happen again to someone in Halo 3.
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since when on earth playing with modders will get u banned..if they kena banned liao how they wan to play with u....unless u play over LAN...

P.S...I Ingat u using mobius account to play ?...he give u the permission to delete ? lol  sweat.gif
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so have you delete those people from your friendlist? or izzit mobius friendlist?
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My account. I control it.

Let me clear this up as there seems to be a huge misunderstanding. Whoever said playing with modders will get you banned is an idiot. Microsoft has been banning modded consoles since the Xbox days. These bans are targeted at individual consoles which have mods installed. So basically as long as your console is original you're safe. If you do get banned, it's your box and not your Xbox Live account. I got my Xbox banned last time when I accidentally signed on with Modchip active, but as you can see I still retained my I MobiusVyper I account.

The only way you can get banned even though you don't have mods is if you play with a modder who is cheating. So far I think this only applies to Halo 2. Halo 2 has the biggest in-game modder population. These modders use modded versions of the game files to give themselves advantage over the rest. Includes things like super speed, super jump, auto aim, etc. Now if you were playing Halo 2 matchmaking and found out one of your teammates is a modder and he's cheating, you can get banned for cheating even if you dont know the modder and you had no intention to cheat. That's why its always best to quit out if you have a modder on your team. The opposing team won't know that you're not associated with the modder. He'll just assume you are and report you for cheating.

Now in the event that you do get banned, you will only be banned from Halo 2 matchmaking. Your console won't get banned since you have no mods.

I hope that's cleared some things up
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^ haha. Anyway i read edy ur post. Quiet intresting news and im sure it will happen. The more complicated it is, so there are.....but mayatsan, i think u over expose ler...thats why ur post deleted...as always ur choice, ur call.....
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There is no customer service nightmare as the scenario painted.

If you are in the line of dealing with consumers, then all these issues would have already been taken into considerations. So, trying to paint a nightmare scenario for Microsoft is like telling them what they already know.

As for hackers going for a new mod, for those who don't think it will happen, big DOH to you. Its always been known that hackers will always try to best the big corporations which have been "stifling" their freedom.

But hackers churning out more mods or the possibility of an underground Live service should not stop Microsoft from doing all they can to combat piracy.
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As wat edy mentioned b4, this is neverending story. 1 chase after another....
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Mission Impossible - Stealth infiltration into M$ offices and remove those banned IDs.

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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ May 22 2007, 05:53 PM)
Mission Impossible - Stealth infiltration into M$ offices and remove those banned IDs.
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Who wanna be the infiltrator? *Must be as handsome as Tom Cruise or else...

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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ May 22 2007, 06:02 PM)
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Just like Mission Impossible icon_idea.gif

Who wanna be the infiltrator? *Must be as handsome as Tom Cruise or else...
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Mayatsan, the more you post..the more you sound like a pure pirates. Do you even know what you are posting now? You are trying to justify pirated game? doh.gif

...because of your blind faith in previous firmware, that's why you were so pissed with the banning. Otherwise, no modders would be piss. Previously there promise a new firmware that will get you safe from the banhammer, but they still get ban. It's a never ending cat & mouse game like labbit said.

You are just trying to look for a way to play online with pirated copies.

Really dissapointed. Yes i said it, this message is targeted at you. You are welcome to bring up any argument but at the end of the day, you would've notice you are the real hypocrite now. Just look at all your post. shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ May 22 2007, 06:55 PM)
Mayatsan, the more you post..the more you sound like a pure pirates. Do you even know what you are posting now? You are trying to justify pirated game? doh.gif

...because of your blind faith in previous firmware, that's why you were so pissed with the banning. Otherwise, no modders would be piss. Previously there promise a new firmware that will get you safe from the banhammer, but they still get ban. It's a never ending cat & mouse game like labbit said.

You are just trying to look for a way to play online with pirated copies.

Really dissapointed. Yes i said it, this message is targeted at you. You are welcome to bring up any argument but at the end of the day, you would've notice you are the real hypocrite now. Just look at all your post. shakehead.gif

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guys....enough lah.....let's move on...modders/original supporters, we can all play together (at least we used to & still can again {u never know}). to each his own and let's leave it at that.

@pj, let's close this thread...enough has been said and done & there's really nothing new to add here already.

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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ May 22 2007, 06:55 PM)
Mayatsan, the more you post..the more you sound like a pure pirates. Do you even know what you are posting now? You are trying to justify pirated game? doh.gif

...because of your blind faith in previous firmware, that's why you were so pissed with the banning. Otherwise, no modders would be piss. Previously there promise a new firmware that will get you safe from the banhammer, but they still get ban. It's a never ending cat & mouse game like labbit said.

You are just trying to look for a way to play online with pirated copies.

Really dissapointed. Yes i said it, this message is targeted at you. You are welcome to bring up any argument but at the end of the day, you would've notice you are the real hypocrite now. Just look at all your post. shakehead.gif

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If that happens this forum wouldn't be known to anyone sweat.gif

Maybe he's just showing his true self and he was a hypocrite back when he supported ori whistling.gif
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post May 22 2007, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(Merlin MY @ May 22 2007, 07:36 PM)
guys....enough lah.....let's move on...modders/original supporters, we can all play together (at least we used to & still can again {u never know}). to each his own and let's leave it at that.

@pj, let's close this thread...enough has been said and done & there's really nothing new to add here already.
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I guess its the time.

Before i close this thread i have to make myself clear here.

1. This is **Gamers Hideout Rules and Regulations**, we were once under them. For now we take reference from their R&R until we got ours. We are still working on it.

2. Mod or unmod, just don't promote or try to justify pirated is right in anyway. It's like how you can't twist a police is bad generally. Now we don't even have a proper homebrew scene for 360 yet (like XBMC), so you are supporting pirates, not the modders.

3. If you don't promote anything pirates, rest assure nobody will bother with you being a pirate. Just focus on gaming & everyone can co-exist with each other.

4. If you are so keen on modding, since xb360 homebrew isn't well develop yet...why not try the PC? That's a real open platform. wink.gif

Cheers & Thank You. No Hard Feeling. If you have doubt you can always bring these matters up to me or any other gaming mod.
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post May 22 2007, 07:51 PM

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lets not talk about piracy or any thingy related to pitared
all of u were my frenz
even i also meet u not in virtual scene but in real life
so not let this thing broke our relationship
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post May 22 2007, 07:51 PM

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haha, maybe time to create a new thread.

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