AHHHHHH I'm soooo stupiddddddddddd
Why did I gatal sangat download the frickin' beta. Then I play for hours some more. I really am asking for it  Ni salah makan jamu la ni 

If I got the banhammer, then I won't be back until there's a good hack to go with the Elite. But hey, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Blue Dragon, Infinite Undiscovery, Alan Wake, Ace Combat 6, Devil May Cry 4, Too Human can still keep me entertained with my 360. Plus, Halo 3 SP should be enjoyable. But I will miss the peeps online though  .

I'm still waiting for the banhammer. If it didn't strike me by 12 noon tomorrow, I think I'm safe.

BTW, those who did get the banhammer, tell me: what DVD drives did your 360 use? Mine is Samsung.

now now mayat, let's not get controversial....but it is true....M$....capitalism at it's best!

sony ps3 no games mah and consoles sales are down...modded and unmodded...all are welcome! 

luckily u r away or banhammer will come down on u. u better find a solution to this quick (or a solution better find you quickly) or i'm going to miss putting my shotgun in your face!

Tengkiu mayat  seb baik ko tepon, kurang-kurang ade probability gak arr tak kene banhammer

Aku nak main Gears pun dah tawar hati dah wei. Aku tunggu confirmation main original 100% safe lu la kalau nak main pun.

Not to mention, the notion that some people seem to have, that this will not result in a financial loss to Microsoft are coming from people who clearly are not only 'not modders'; but they are clearly comments from people who have no clue about console modding, or the community or environment created by modders.  Lets just set the cheating aspect aside for a moment, cheating in a game just ruins it, even for the cheater although they may not realize that.

The idea that somehow banning a game console from online play will improve Microsoft's income is absolute sheer nonsense.  First,let me repeat what is a clear fact; someone who has a modded box and cant play online even with a legitimate disk is not going to have any good reason to purchase legitimate disks if they have cheaper pirated versions available, so that is all they will purchase.

Secondly, anyone who is banned from online play will not be paying for online play.

Thirdly, clearly, anyone who was considering the purchase of an Xbox largely due to the fact they were interested in modding it is not likely to purchase an Xbox if they figure a modded box won't play online, there fore they wont buy the hardware and they wont purchase any games legitimate or otherwise.

Fourthly, any person who gets banned by accident by this method and who is using a stock console may just be pissed enough to stop buying Xbox games (they obviously wont be paying for online gaming if they are banned) and statistics have shown over and over that unsatisfactory experiences with a business are communicated to friends and acquaintances 10 times as often as satisfactory experiences, so alot of people will hear negative things for every accidental banning.  Probably for alot of justified banning as well.  Lets put it this way, Microsoft is going to get alot of very negative spoken word advertising on this one way or the other.

And fifth, the hackers will likely make some kind of new mod chip within months, or even weeks that will allow pirated games to be played online again so its all simply a big waste of time.

So all this nonsense talk about patting each other on the back and congratulating MS for stopping the pirates, forget it.  The only reason they are even doing it is because they bought into some clowns story that it could be accomplished, they wish it could work so they believe it will work.  And they end up paying some clown who convinced them he could somehow stop piracy.

I'll tell you how to stop piracy.  Real quick.  Put games and software on cartridges...Opps! Forgot! Cartridges cost way way more to actually manufacture then a cheap plastic CD or DVD.  And thats no good because it would cut into profit margins!

PG4 said:

Too many people in here that like to steal then complain that Microsoft is not supporting them.  Get real you thieves, you choose to steal a game don't come crying to Microsoft about how it's not fair.  Then you want to cry how you can't get online, that's right.  You mod your Xbox 360 you will be banned on Xbox Live.

For those crying saying Microsoft should drop price on games, another big joke.  The majority of you that are pirating games would still steal them even if the games were $1 or 50 cents, because people like you have absolutely no morals whatsoever and enjoy stealing from people.  Hey how's this for an idea, I'll tell your workplace that they should pay you half what they are paying you now because you don't really need all that money you are making since you steal everything you 'own'.  Sounds fair right?  Oh I guess when someone takes from you it's all a different story right?  Don't use the lame excuse, that companies make millions so it's a drop in teh bucket argument, its really tired.  You are all HYPROCRITS.

Those that are saying they will buy a PS3.  No one really cares, go buy a PS3.  Microsoft is not going to really worry about a small number of thieves going to the competition.  The reality is you are too poor to afford to buy games on the Xbox 360 but you want to threaten that you will buy a $600 console and the games for it.  Even if you did - again no one cares, you are nobody to worry about.  The pirates are a handful of idiots that are to be consider pariahs and should be flushed down the toilet with the rest of the sewage.

Microsoft did the right thing here, they banned the idiot SKRIPT-KIDDIES from Live and made Live a much better place for people that don't need a handout and are too poor to afford games.  Go buy a PS3 and go steal their games, no one wants you here.  Don't let the LIVE disconnect door hit you in the a$$ AGAIN.

Blackout said:

To PG4

Do you

a)own mp3's that you have not paid for, nor "backed up" from the original cd

b)buy ur operating system

c)running legit software suites like ms office

we all know 99% of everyone who uses the internet has mp3s that they didnt "back up", so spare us with the moral talk

Mayat...but how the game developers going to recover their investment ... as xbox 360 gaming market is considered very minimal if compared to the volume of Windows or even the entertainment market...
And...as always..we all expect a spectacular release for any new xbox 360 games in the market....and I dont think they are willing to do it for free or at losses.....
Even, xbox 360 r sold at losses at initial phase....and I believe the product life cycle for this product will not be more than 5 years...so another more money to be invested for a new gaming console.....this economic structure is not applicable at all if compared with the Windows and Entertainment market....People will keep buying the OS and original music....and thiose same people will either buying PS3 or not buying any gaming console at all.....Think about it....

Was talking to my manager over this during lunch, she says it is possible that we won't be able to 'pasar malam' our old games anymore because we are buying the rights to the game, and not the DVD itself. So Microsoft can technically limit the disc to a single machine - provided that what applies to computer software holds true here as well.

haha lupa plak.

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Added on May 20, 2007, 7:30 pm

wei torrent pon pirate gak, kalau ko download movies, mp3s. hahaha. ape beza ngan org beli pirate utk 360?

wow... hackers going for something again... 

i think banning or delete the gamertag more efficient...
coz that make their gamer score to nothing... which is a hard hit!!!

Well..this is wat we call brain and technology. Hackers will always have a way. Neverending story. Your choice..

Mission Impossible - Stealth infiltration into M$ offices and remove those banned IDs.

^
mayatsan, you can become the helicopter pilot

Just like Mission Impossible

Who wanna be the infiltrator? *Must be as handsome as Tom Cruise or else...

Mayatsan, the more you post..the more you sound like a pure pirates. Do you even know what you are posting now? You are trying to justify pirated game?

...because of your blind faith in previous firmware, that's why you were so pissed with the banning. Otherwise, no modders would be piss. Previously there promise a new firmware that will get you safe from the banhammer, but they still get ban. It's a never ending cat & mouse game like labbit said.

You are just trying to look for a way to play online with pirated copies.

Really dissapointed. Yes i said it, this message is targeted at you. You are welcome to bring up any argument but at the end of the day, you would've notice you are the real hypocrite now. Just look at all your post.

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