this is a kind of thing that once you see it then you will feel something is missing without it.

RT is even better in motion than stills. It grounds the game world and tricks your brain into being more immersed. It's the "macro" effect that digital foundry mentions in the video.

Lol. Since when a piece of graphic card can be so complicated. It's good that they develop the rt to make thing look nicer. It's a good start although current hardware still not able to fully maximize the potential.

Ya I think no point to label people as what happen in hk like blue or yellow, It is just nonsense. Even if they was paid to make a video then so what. It did look nice at side by side comparison although that might be not obvious during actual gameplay.

Everyone have right comment whatever they want, don't know why some people are born with such fragile heart and cannot accept different kind of thinking. Lol, except they living in South Korea, otherwise y not.

This post has been edited by wolf1991: Dec 21 2020, 12:31 AM

Did another repaste of the 3080 Holo with NT-H1 (no Kryonaut spare to use), put my GT-1850s in exhaust. The GPU core runs a few degrees hotter overall, maybe Zotac does use some good paste that's better than the NT-H1, but I didn't check temps again with the stock fans.

Strangely, the OpenCL compute tool that thermal throttled on the stock fans when below 80% fan speed didn't happen with the card even after an hour, although GPU temps were slightly higher overall. Perhaps the deshroud does cool other parts of the card more efficiently

They could run raytraced effects at a lower resolution. The PS5 Spiderman game does quarter resolution with raytraced shadows and reflections, IIRC.

Hopefully coming forward will have a hardware that can support 4k rt ultra. Now I still don't see the benefit to run rt on at lower resolution.

Yea Spiderman has 1080p RT option on ps5.

Next gen console is key for RT adoption since game devs always target consoles first rather than PC

Good thing is Sony and Microsoft both are bringing more first party games to PC. Horizon Zero Dawn was a pleasant surprise and I'm glad I experienced it fully (completed 100%) on PC 1440p maxed + HDR @ 70fps rather than on my old PS4.

Im using MX4, dont see a diff from the stock thermals with stock fan so indeed zotac is using some pretty good pastes. Perhaps your thermal throttling was due to poor contact that you've solved by reseating the cooler.

But well, if the card stays below 70 at 30C ambient then it all is well.

I always love to stay a while look around when gaming, it is noticeable to me.

I’m using 1080Ti and trusting blindly on reddit using an old driver from early 2020 - version 456.98. I am not playing CP2077 so I don’t need latest driver.

Or you can just revert to the previous version.

I’m using the same case, CPU + side on intake, GPU on exhaust. Works for me, but my GPU isn’t anywhere near as powerful as your 3080.

This post has been edited by edmund_yung: Dec 21 2020, 09:37 AM

For Cyberpunk I actually think the consoles issue is mainly CPU rather than GPU related, I have seen some videos of the game running with integrated GPU. It won't look good but it should be an easy fix if GPU power was the issue as the game graphics portion is very scalable. Scales ok from low end all the way to the best graphics settings on Latest High End GPU.

I think the issues are mainly CPU/storage based on issues that occurred so far, seems that a beefy CPU is required to run properly, old CPUs stuck at low FPS.

I'm basing my fan configuration on this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-d8...t#gid=679878723

I have the v1 Ncase, but with the side panel removed since it doesn't have the side panel holes for GPU airflow. The original case was designed around blower fan GPUs with a 3.5" drive seated below it, or with watercooled GPUs after all.

This. Digital Foundry tested the game on all current and next gen consoles. They found that the Xbox Series S runs better than the One X, in spite of the One X having better overall graphics performance per Microsoft's technical and optimization papers for devs.

Then again it's hardly a surprise with the CPU - it's pathetically slow on all previous-gen consoles. https://thechipcollective.com/posts/cynical...ks-and-analysis

Anandtech supposedly has one of these China-made salvaged Xbox One SoC boards, and they might write a more indepth review of it too. Even without that, a Jaguar quadcore is slower than a Pentium dualcore based on Haswell - even in multithreaded workloads (per Anandtech's benchmarks). One can only imagine how far it's behind common budget gaming CPUs released before the CPU came out e.g. i5-2400 etc, let alone current ones.

This post has been edited by yimingwuzere: Dec 21 2020, 04:15 PM

It's the kind of experience where if you don't turn it on and play it, you will never know what it is from just watching hundreds of hours of Digital Foundry or whomever the fuck keep pushing the RTX tech

It's truly on the see to believe basis just like HDR and unbelievably hard to display in a video or screenshots, which is part of the reason why KOLs and techtubers can't be arsed to push for these tech even though they have received countless MDF from Nvidia and vendors.

It's like white people and good food, they have been eating high calorie junk for ages and never know there's actually legit curry, chinese food and etc
Once they come to asia to travel or long-term stay, their perceptions of food will just change

This post has been edited by Melvin117: Dec 21 2020, 12:50 PM

2021 i am betting class action against amd for numerous things.

also we will see lawsuit against youtubers/influencers.


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Dec 21 2020, 11:40 AM

meh, it's the same thing as all those naysayers behave about the World wide web, ARM architecture, Neural Networks, and now Hardware Raytracing

they can bitch and defend all they want but technology will move on without them, leaving them salty and dried up from all the salt they had.

Anyone got any pro tips on buying rtx3000 series from Shopee

I won't blame them cause tbf Cyberpunk is the first game where ray tracing on is REALLY NOTICEABLE and different than RT off

But now since they can experience it by themselves and the experience is not hard to come by, maybe they should play it before speaking nonsense

after all, RT and visual enhancements are perceivable easily unlike audiophile snake oil unless the person is blind

This post has been edited by Melvin117: Dec 21 2020, 01:09 PM

To those that cried RT just dropped too many fps, that's why DLSS is so important. They also need to remember last time we had to crank down lighting and shadow settings especially soft shadows because it dropped fps too much (LOL!)

Now RT is vastly superior and yes the fps drops.

also not to mention DLSS will continue to mature because it’s not entirely hardware dependent. the tensor core is just a neural network while the DLSS will just improve overtime with training hence the scary part is that even the turing still have room for imrprovement.... Just look at how ipong’s AI image processing improves the same on new hardware as well as old hardware. Just like DLSS 2.0 on turing.

Eventually everything will be running on AI upsampling when the AI has become super intelligent and these people who downplay this technology will again be left behind and remain salty.

Heck when I was writing my thesis on about supporting a study for using neural network self learning for wireless routing, people were all sceptical 8 years ago about this term called neural networks

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Dec 21 2020, 01:40 PM

Thanks for the share. That video alone convinced me to forget about team red entirely for the current generation of RX 6xxx cards. Since consoles can't do RT, might as well get a console for that.

These events, sounds like should blame their management.
That's why I still dont like pre-order games. Game dev will just release games half baked and bug full, as long as gamers keep feeding them money for these kind of launch product.

100% completion damn
I did enjoy that game also, although previous system hover around 40-70fps