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Melvin117
post Dec 19 2020, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 19 2020, 03:48 PM)
Yes yes, CP2077 on PC is impressive. But it's a far cry away from what was shown:



No, I'm not talking about the visuals. But the fact that they flat out lied about almost all the features that was presented in this vid.
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It's glass half empty or glass half full again
For me I'm definitely happy with what the game offers when I'm already able to run it smoothly and enjoy the game basically bug-free.

I guess if you aren't enjoying the game the only fun you can get out of it is to nitpick and be angry over nothing 😂

The devs don't owe gamers anything and they did deliver alot out of the door for a next gen game even though alot of their promises have failed to deliver.
Yes they did over-marketing the game but so is the community's over-hyping their expectations.

I came in expecting an enhanced Witcher 3 with a near-future setting and 60 hours in I would say I'm getting what I was expecting if not more.

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post Dec 19 2020, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Dec 19 2020, 06:31 PM)
The reflections is awesome because it has roughness texture map that controls reflectivity on many different materials such as tiles, as opposed to overused glass and water reflections. Then again the glass reflection on CP2077 has different IOR values across the glass too, so the reflection doesn't look flat
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It certainly a technical piece compared to Control which looks only "reflective" in the pyramid maze or ghostrunner which everything looks ultra "oily'

This feels realistic and really adds to the mood of the surroundings

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QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Dec 19 2020, 07:10 PM)
It certainly a technical piece compared to Control which looks only "reflective" in the pyramid maze or ghostrunner which everything looks ultra "oily'

This feels realistic and really adds to the mood of the surroundings
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Because reflectivity is controlled by roughness on ray tracing renders. It is very common on 3d renders on programs such as 3dsmax, maya, cinema4d, blender etc. It is the reflections that should be inserted into real time graphics thumbsup.gif
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post Dec 19 2020, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Dec 19 2020, 07:02 PM)
It's glass half empty or glass half full again
For me I'm definitely happy with what the game offers when I'm already able to run it smoothly and enjoy the game basically bug-free.

I guess if you aren't enjoying the game the only fun you can get out of it is to nitpick and be angry over nothing 😂

The devs don't owe gamers anything and they did deliver alot out of the door for a next gen game even though alot of their promises have failed to deliver.
Yes they did over-marketing the game but so is the community's over-hyping their expectations.

I came in expecting an enhanced Witcher 3 with a near-future setting and 60 hours in I would say I'm getting what I was expecting if not more.
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Dude, how is it over hyping expectations when they didn't even achieve half of what they shown on their first gameplay walkthrough? CDPR themselves recorded that. If they felt they wouldn't be able to hit all those goals, why show it and then lie about it?

The game is alright. It's a very sea-saw experience for me, some times it's really good and some times it's plain trash.

Also, you can have fun with a game and still talk shit about it. Who started the tradition of being able to only talk shit about a game that you don't like?

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Dec 19 2020, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Dec 19 2020, 02:53 PM)
Cyberpunk 2077 is extremely life-like beautiful and a great demonstration of ray tracing

The best thing is it's not all forest and jungle again and again but a stunning, futuristic city
Something completely new  thumbup.gif 

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Like man, it's so obvious when RT works and the world is just REAL  brows.gif

RT and the crazily vast world make exploring the world so much fun and fascinating, even though a big part of the gameplay is pretty repetitive and UBISOFT
But my god, I'll confess if ubi starts making their games as detailed and decent as Cyberpunk 2077 Imma play the hell out of them
Night City is such a beautiful canvas to load all the contents on it, and CDPR sure loaded alot on it  icon_idea.gif

First thing first making the game looking so great is the RT reflection, man it's simply a different game WITHOUT RT REFLECTION
The world is DULL without RT reflection

Next, turning on RT lighting actually adds more shadows on top of RT shadows *im kinda becoming like digital foundry now haha*

ie. the main quest where Johnny brings you to Hotel Pistis Sophia, if you turn on RT lighting esp pyscho/GI you can see light diffuses through the windows and forms a beautiful, nostalgic atmosphere
If you turn off RT lighting the shadow from the window simply disappears and it's a normal hotel room instead of a beautiful backdrop to tell Johnny's story

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Parts like these really add to the story-telling and atmosphere and make me understand why most angry players are angry: they simply aren't playing the same game as we do

which is sad but also fuck yeah, PCMR  icon_rolleyes.gif
I can say getting the 3080 is worth just for this game, the other games now all feel last gen esp ubicraps
RDR2 is still beautiful, but on the 3080 it runs pretty much like it did on my Xbox One X which is kinda the same case with HZD, DS and other console exclusives

p/s: pardon me for no more screenshots cause I mainly play the game in HDR and all me screenshots are gray-ish shots lmao
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Playing on 1440p everything ultra and dlss quality

No lag felt

3080 is the card to go for this game



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post Dec 19 2020, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(imceobichi @ Dec 19 2020, 08:17 PM)
Playing on 1440p everything ultra and dlss quality

No lag felt

3080 is the card to go for this game
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I’ll wait 2years later to buy and play this game on a discount at RM20 laugh.gif by then probably 5080 is out and can truly max out everything.

Currently I just bought and started playing witcher3 with the 3080 and maxing out is not a problem rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(imceobichi @ Dec 19 2020, 08:17 PM)
Playing on 1440p everything ultra and dlss quality

No lag felt

3080 is the card to go for this game
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I'll say yeah but I prefer to run it on a 4k TV

Still pretty smooth and DLSS' weak points are really not noticeable on such a big screen and distance compared to a monitor where even on Quality I can see moire, shimmering and aliasing on 1440p ultra RT settings

Anyway on a monitor sniping and blowing heads are easy AF
On TV I'm constantly using blades or hacking
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 19 2020, 07:33 PM)
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Dude, how is it over hyping expectations when they didn't even achieve half of what they shown on their first gameplay walkthrough? CDPR themselves recorded that. If they felt they wouldn't be able to hit all those goals, why show it and then lie about it?

The game is alright. It's a very sea-saw experience for me, some times it's really good and some times it's plain trash.

Also, you can have fun with a game and still talk shit about it. Who started the tradition of being able to only talk shit about a game that you don't like?
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From what I see, hailing the game to be one of the best game will be ever made and making it out like it's the end of the world when the game doesn't run well on stone age hardware and rage like 3 years old kids, how is that not over-hyping?

They sure did miss some of their promises but they deliver big time in the visual and immersion department.
And now all of those are ignored because it can't run well on consoles and old GPUs?

That's alot of expectation management problem to me ears, and that's not the first time the community fucked up with expectations
RDR2, Death Stranding and TLOU 2 are all from these few years and these titles practically went through the same route of lukewarm/bad reception then gets better as time goes.
That's expectation management.
Gamers don't know what they want, get hyped up by nonetheless evil marketing and start blowing their hype to another dimension when in fact the technology is simply not at reach.

Look at those ubisoft copy paste products.
They are way way worse than Cyberpunk yet no one bats an eye anymore cause they have a realistic expectations of what these things are.
Repetitive hot garbage.

This post has been edited by Melvin117: Dec 19 2020, 09:17 PM
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post Dec 20 2020, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Dec 19 2020, 09:14 PM)
From what I see, hailing the game to be one of the best game will be ever made and making it out like it's the end of the world when the game doesn't run well on stone age hardware and rage like 3 years old kids, how is that not over-hyping?

They sure did miss some of their promises but they deliver big time in the visual and immersion department.
And now all of those are ignored because it can't run well on consoles and old GPUs?

That's alot of expectation management problem to me ears, and that's not the first time the community fucked up with expectations
RDR2, Death Stranding and TLOU 2 are all from these few years and these titles practically went through the same route of lukewarm/bad reception then gets better as time goes.
That's expectation management.
Gamers don't know what they want, get hyped up by nonetheless evil marketing and start blowing their hype to another dimension when in fact the technology is simply not at reach.

Look at those ubisoft copy paste products.
They are way way worse than Cyberpunk yet no one bats an eye anymore cause they have a realistic expectations of what these things are.
Repetitive hot garbage.
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You missed out one point though. They purposely mislead people by not allowing anyone access to the console version until after they launched the game and have pocketed the money. Heck they didn’t even allow the reviewers to use their own footage and instead to use footage provided by cdpr for the pc version. No matter how you look at it that’s shady af. No one would rage if they just showed the performance on the base consoles before the game was launched. Now they elected to take the money then hope that gamers would just suck it up after seeing the performance on the base console instead of lashing out like this. No one expected the base consoles to run like ps5 but at least they expected the game to be playable since it was announced on their console and not garbage 15fps.

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Cyberpunk 2077 1.05 patch for PC is out
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post Dec 20 2020, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(GreenSamurai @ Dec 20 2020, 11:53 AM)
You missed out one point though. They purposely mislead people by not allowing anyone access to the console version until after they launched the game and have pocketed the money. Heck they didn’t even allow the reviewers to use their own footage and instead to use footage provided by cdpr for the pc version. No matter how you look at it that’s shady af. No one would rage if they just showed the performance on the base consoles before the game was launched. Now they elected to take the money then hope that gamers would just suck it up after seeing the performance on the base console instead of lashing out like this. No one expected the base consoles to run like ps5 but at least they expected the game to be playable since it was announced on their console and not garbage 15fps.
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That I would not defend yet anyone with last few gen consoles(PS3, X360) should know the performance of next gen games should tank like crazy brows.gif

Again, I haven't played Cyberpunk 2077 on any of the consoles
I did on lower end PCs(RTX2060), the performance was straight up acceptable and a sign that the game should be enjoyed on a PS5 or XSX instead

From my perspective, that's absolutely fine
The PCMR finally get a true next-gen-or-whatever-they-want-to-call-it game that can stretch the hardware to the limit, not again gimped by the stone age Jaguar CPU, GTX660/7850 and HDD even though costing 10-15 times more
(in case you don't know, the PS4's slow AF cpu and HDD are the reasons for most of the blurry af and not-loading textures bugs and memes on the internet)
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QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Dec 20 2020, 12:41 PM)
That I would not defend yet anyone with last few gen consoles(PS3, X360) should know the performance of next gen games should tank like crazy  brows.gif

Again, I haven't played Cyberpunk 2077 on any of the consoles
I did on lower end PCs(RTX2060), the performance was straight up acceptable and a sign that the game should be enjoyed on a PS5 or XSX instead

From my perspective, that's absolutely fine
The PCMR finally get a true next-gen-or-whatever-they-want-to-call-it game that can stretch the hardware to the limit, not again gimped by the stone age Jaguar CPU, GTX660/7850 and HDD even though costing 10-15 times more
(in case you don't know, the PS4's slow AF cpu and HDD are the reasons for most of the blurry af and not-loading textures bugs and memes on the internet)
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It doesn’t matter what we the consumers know or not. The fact that cdpr announced it for the base consoles then it should at least be playable in those consoles instead of the mess now. If it’s not playable then cdpr should just do the right thing and cancelled the game for those consoles and just make it next gen exclusive. They did not and purposely mislead everyone and that shows they were aware of the issues and is just greedy for the money.

And I know the hardware limitations in the base consoles but that doesn’t change the fact that cdpr knew about it too and just continued to released it anyway for the money.

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QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Dec 19 2020, 09:14 PM)
From what I see, hailing the game to be one of the best game will be ever made and making it out like it's the end of the world when the game doesn't run well on stone age hardware and rage like 3 years old kids, how is that not over-hyping?

They sure did miss some of their promises but they deliver big time in the visual and immersion department.
And now all of those are ignored because it can't run well on consoles and old GPUs?

That's alot of expectation management problem to me ears, and that's not the first time the community fucked up with expectations
RDR2, Death Stranding and TLOU 2 are all from these few years and these titles practically went through the same route of lukewarm/bad reception then gets better as time goes.
That's expectation management.
Gamers don't know what they want, get hyped up by nonetheless evil marketing and start blowing their hype to another dimension when in fact the technology is simply not at reach.

Look at those ubisoft copy paste products.
They are way way worse than Cyberpunk yet no one bats an eye anymore cause they have a realistic expectations of what these things are.
Repetitive hot garbage.
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Dude I'm not even talking about PS4/Xbone versions. Those versions don't exist AFAIC.

I'm talking about the game in general, platform not included. They didn't just miss "some of their promises" as you so lightly put, go watch the video and then talk to me again after. Watch their so called Night wire series too, where almost every segment was a straight up lie.

Both devs and gamers are to be blamed if there is a blame game going on around here.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 20 2020, 12:57 PM)
Dude I'm not even talking about PS4/Xbone versions. Those versions don't exist AFAIC.

I'm talking about the game in general, platform not included. They didn't just miss "some of their promises" as you so lightly put, go watch the video and then talk to me again after. Watch their so called Night wire series too, where almost every segment was a straight up lie.

Both devs and gamers are to be blamed if there is a blame game going on around here.
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he engrossed with the game hence defense.
same i love acv. even if ppl complain about fps. wont matter to me cause they lore already pulled me in.
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For the Zotac card owners - are there only 6 screws holding down the heatsink of the 3080 Trinity/Holo?
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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Dec 20 2020, 03:41 PM)
For the Zotac card owners - are there only 6 screws holding down the heatsink of the 3080 Trinity/Holo?
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affirmative for the trinity.
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Dec 20 2020, 05:50 PM)
affirmative for the trinity.
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OK. Deshrouded the card. Using it in Ncase v1 using a pure negative pressure setup (based on C14S airflow setup at https://imgur.com/a/kybBtjQ, but with 2x GT-1850s in place of NF-A12X25 for GPU exhaust), 1 side panel removed, case feet raised an inch.

Not impressed with temps. GPU core thermals seem a bit warmer overall, even if the PC is a lot more silent. Going to try reversing the fans later, as well as checking my pasting job. Worst case scenario - I revert back to the stock cooler but with the RGB strip on the side of the shroud removed completely.
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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Dec 20 2020, 06:39 PM)
OK. Deshrouded the card. Using it in Ncase v1 using a pure negative pressure setup (based on C14S airflow setup at https://imgur.com/a/kybBtjQ, but with 2x GT-1850s in place of NF-A12X25 for GPU exhaust), 1 side panel removed, case feet raised an inch.

Not impressed with temps. GPU core thermals seem a bit warmer overall, even if the PC is a lot more silent. Going to try reversing the fans later, as well as checking my pasting job. Worst case scenario - I revert back to the stock cooler but with the RGB strip on the side of the shroud removed completely.
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ive tried with negative setup before.. the temp will never be good.,, u need +ve airflow for the card to be stable...
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/kglp...tm_source=share


Can someone explain whats the fuss if asus now named under China not taiwan. Why mat salleh kecoh byk
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Dec 20 2020, 08:20 PM)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/kglp...tm_source=share
Can someone explain whats the fuss if asus now named under China not taiwan. Why mat salleh kecoh byk
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