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Melvin117
post Nov 21 2020, 10:50 PM

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wow 5.1k for an msi suprim x on facebook
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post Nov 22 2020, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(latios507 @ Nov 22 2020, 01:00 AM)
Wew that's even pricier than the Strix and Xtreme. Isn't that the so called MSI Flagship model? I wonder how does it fare against Gigabyte's Aorus 3080 Xtreme or Asus Strix 3080 OC in terms of thermal and performances
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Nov 22 2020, 11:40 AM)
Anyone knows the difference between ROG Strix 3080 OC vs MSI Suprim X 3080?
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no one cause the card isn't even released yet officially rclxub.gif

dont know how the guy managed to get it


QUOTE(terradrive @ Nov 22 2020, 09:56 AM)
50% increase from base msrp wtf

13+3 power phase to 16+4, same parts but slightly more compared to msi gaming x trio

milking to the max.
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normal lah, the pricing should be 4.6-4.7k but this guy is selling at 5.1

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post Nov 22 2020, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(faiz2036 @ Nov 22 2020, 12:05 PM)
Hi all,

What is your max boost clock when you gaming?
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lotac 3080 trinity with trinity oc bios
no overclocking
2040


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post Nov 22 2020, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(faiz2036 @ Nov 22 2020, 12:11 PM)
Bro. You gpu OC version out of box?
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no just flash the oc bios
way more stable than vanilla edition+OC-ing myself

that's what the oc version is, same card everything different bios

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post Nov 22 2020, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 22 2020, 11:48 AM)
that’s about it.. It’s more of how long the card can maintain such clocks and not throttling due to powerlimit. And these  cards are already maxed out of the box.
it’s not about the gpu staying cool.. It definitely will. It’s more about heating up your cpu, nvme and motherboard
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people want to spend money what to do rolleyes.gif

all 3080s are the same from 3299 to 4699


more performance needs to wait until a 3080ti or just pay 2x for a 3090 now
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post Nov 22 2020, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 22 2020, 12:23 PM)
those max out boards got purpose wan...they can maintain  2000+ mhz but sucking 450w
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I went to check out the review for aorus xtreme 3080 and it performs no better than a 3080 gaming trio x and other 3080s cool2.gif
https://youtu.be/ClcCZR-Q7yQ

the strix is a worse card(on cooling) than this is and I assume the suprim x is too

whatever these cards can maintain, it's not giving extra, significant performance as far as I'm concerned

sure this aorus big thick boy runs silent even on load, but at 37% extra money I expect something else

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post Nov 22 2020, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Nov 22 2020, 12:37 PM)
How much is the msrp of the msi's gaming x trio? The cooler seems to be able to compete with asus tuf 3080, just lesser board components
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3599 if you can get one lol

lowyat price now is 4k

on shoppe it's sitting at 5.1k lmao

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post Nov 22 2020, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(N1ck @ Nov 22 2020, 12:44 PM)
MSi Gaming X Trio Seems to be 3999 now. Something happened and now all 3999
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well after the first launch week all the cina bobo cards go to 3499 from 3299 then now all pinoy3d bs are at 3699 OFFICIALLY puke.gif

this launch is just disgusting


but the best thing is we know amd pricing is gonna be more ridiculous so we can only be good boys and swallow everything
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post Nov 22 2020, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Nov 22 2020, 12:42 PM)
the official msi & nvidia store sold it at 4k on lazada
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this no comment whistling.gif

I remember it was 3599 at day one

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post Nov 22 2020, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Nov 22 2020, 12:42 PM)
die liao
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can get the 3070 now easily with rm100 extra only since you're running a 1440p monitor

3080 price will still be high up in the sky and aint coming down now, the cheapest new card you can buy now is rm3629 PNY
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post Nov 22 2020, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 22 2020, 01:18 PM)
Seen a few times RTX 3080 at Leadtek (RM3299) and Colorful (RM3399). You gotta watch Lazada and Shopee a lot though.
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not really

ask their official fb, say now and coming stocks are now 3.6, dont want buy then bye whistling.gif
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post Nov 22 2020, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(targon @ Nov 22 2020, 01:32 PM)
That price range same as Kl lar. Who's buying that trio x ? It's overpriced at that price for what it is giving. ventus is no better. Suprim is crazily priced as the Strix.
For what it is worth, u re better off with Colorful card rather than the infamous zotac ( it's not cheap for the stuff u re getting inside zotac).
Who's attracted by the 5 years warranty stuff ?  It's like the majority will keep the card for 5 years? Most will replace the card withi n 2 - 3 years. All it takes is a large batch of RMA to sink the ship.
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colourful design and cooling got blasted by hardware unboxed
this is no 3080 but I dont expect to redesign a cooler just for the 3080 when it's an msrp card
https://youtu.be/rC2Sk-B60qg

no one card is really better than the other, especially at the lower part of the price spectrum
zotac might be one of the worse by design but the performance is definitely decent for what it is

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post Nov 22 2020, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Nov 22 2020, 01:55 PM)
Not RM3599 rtx3080 igame adv oc meh?
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this one the red at the center right, went extinct since end of October whistling.gif

last two weeks still got vulkan, now even that no more dy

in the market now only got pinoy3d afaik, even lotac only have holo amp saje


QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 22 2020, 02:34 PM)
aiya these youtube reviewers all take lowend compare to high end then calling the lowend sucks like duhhh lolol.

let them bash or whatever, in the end it’s the binning that counts. If you get a bad silicone lottery on a 3080 strix that somehow cant run stable at 2040Mhz then you cry also. laugh.gif
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I think people need to have a realistic expectation, NVIDIA is the one spending tens of billions of USD engineering a new architecture, making the chips and making itself rich enough to beat intel in market value in just two decades

all the cina taiwan board partners are just slapping a cooler on the chips and call it a day at msrp
only nvidia themselves have the ability and cost control to actually make a breakthrough in cooler design
The FE cards are literally Apple level of engineering and design and material usage, too bad it's not really available outside of US

at msrp there's nothing much or extra the board partners can do (minus out the unicorn tuf of course)
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post Nov 22 2020, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Nov 22 2020, 01:43 PM)
Thanks for the video. That extreme is beauty at the fans design area and also that cute screen.
Beside that, nothing to impress me to buy, using 4 slot is way too bulky and big IMAO.
Also for that additional cost, I really don't see the point of getting it.

Actually, that video give me more shock on RTX 3090.

To me RTX 3090 is totally NOT WORTH to buy! You get extra +/- 10fps compare with RTX 3080 but you paid double price, the RTX 3090 card now is around RM 9k to RM 10k.
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the 3090 is expensive because of the VRAM (twice of 3080) so it shouldn't be marketed as a gaming card at the first place

it's also not significantly better for 4k gaming (10-15% better)
at 2x the price the only thing it's better is for 6k or 8k VR cause the vram limit(tested myself, 10gb is not enough)


anyway all signs are pointing towards the arrival of a 3080ti with 16/20gb vram and 3090 performance to combat the 6900XT or nvidia themselves reduces the price of 3090 to somewhere near 1k usd

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post Nov 22 2020, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Nov 22 2020, 03:16 PM)
not priced high.. it’s we poor jer laugh.gif
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if it is legit 2x 3080 performance and can do 4k120 gaming I will definitely blow 7k on it

at the current price and perf it's a joke for gamers and serves nvidia right to get spanked by amd 6900xt
it's ridiculously bad value for gaming and if you're not using it to make money

they could have called it Titan and no one who games will be bothered by it


QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Nov 22 2020, 03:34 PM)
Not going to get the RM4700 or even the RM4000 RTX3080 unless the % extra spend will translate to % gain in performance. Even the RM4k cards aren't 15% faster right?
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lol 15% faster, that's a 3090 already sweat.gif

people need to get it out there straight that every 3080 performs the same by gaming terms
being 1-3% different than one card or another could be bad case+fans/CPU combo and etc

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post Nov 22 2020, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Nov 22 2020, 03:43 PM)
meaning I should install day 1 driver once I got my 3080/3090 as long as its not zotac ?
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every card works the same now, just get whatever you can get and install the nvidia driver and it will work

this guy you're quoting here is writing alot but dont know what he's trying to say

zotac or what not aren't broken because of the driver but because of stupid rgb firmware and firestorm junkware


QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 22 2020, 04:22 PM)
I just saw Colorful RTX 3080 Ultra OC at RM3399 2 days ago on Shopee. lol
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ROFLMAO if goes by like this I also saw the legendary SUPER SUPER SUPER RARE 3360 TUF TWO MONTHS AGO

IDK you man the fact for me and most people is that I have been looking on shopee and lazada for 1.5+ months every day before getting my card, still got 0 fkin msrp deals

only got my card at msrp because I know a dealer personally

that's why you dont see me running around parading zotac the best deal, because it's kinda like the 3360 now, langsung cannot find one at msrp icon_idea.gif

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post Nov 22 2020, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 22 2020, 04:32 PM)
Try asking this guy.

https://shopee.com.my/iGame-GeForce-RTX-308...0389.3964218477

Long time on Shopee. Should be safe.
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dont need one now cause I already got my lotac

when I needed it I never saw it, presumably they have one card per week/listing and gone instantly

the only seller I tried is the joker EY Signature which is a fkin preorder deal puke.gif


IDK, I think we need to be real when discussing these cards
it's real if one can buy it now, not two months ago
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QUOTE(targon @ Nov 22 2020, 04:32 PM)
It's better than Trinity definitely.

Ppl just don't realize the good stuff and still defensive on zotac.
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it could be better, but it's still a cheap card which is priced at the lowest spectrum of a 3080 (the msrp basically)

that doesn't make it significantly better that people need to hold off their purchase and wait for one or top up extra for one

in major reviews it cant even be compared to a high tier card, that's the fact

and in gaming term, all of them will run the same and give you the same numbers
unless you are obsessed with the benchmark scores, then why are you even be looking at these cards?


If you can buy it then you definitely should, the fact is now no one can buy one even the lotac ones which should have the most stocks

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post Nov 22 2020, 08:34 PM

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Can second that flashing the holo amp bios for trinity works wonder(and very easy too

Was doing 1820-1850 in-game with the 336w trinity oc 105w bios

Now is easy 1950

Doesn't translate to in-game experience but feels syok abit, free performance 🦄

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QUOTE(thisisrazin @ Nov 22 2020, 08:21 PM)
If you play at 4K and aiming for 120 or 144fps, then overclocking will always be relevant because even with a 3080, you will not be able to maintain that high fps (at max settings) on a lot of games. So you benefit from having the most fps possible. It is especially important for increasing your minimum fps and reducing stutter to get the smoothest experience.

This is true even at 1440p for gpu intensive games.
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That one needs to rely on dlss already

OC really doesn't make sense for gaming and takes alot of efforts to find a decent gain

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