they can justify that they gave him 1 year of probation

But usually your annual leave on the first year is prorated, you will gain AL for every month when your with the company.
To not give any AL is just like a contractor, contractors can take AL but no pay but in this case i assume it's a permanent role so the company is doing a shit move.

My experience in Japanese company is good OT rates (reimburse AL after carry forward 2 years) and medical benefits ONLY. Their entry level salary is fixed for ALL and very rigid. Punctuality is more important than our life, typical Japanese work ethics.....bla bla bla

But for your case, 1st year no annual leave is just wrong
Just wondering, this company start with letter S? Able narrow down from your description

As a fellow chem eng holder, all the best in your job hunt

This post has been edited by sidefulnes: Jan 14 2019, 03:00 PM

Ya 'S'. You used to work there?? . Its permanent job & probation duration is 6 months. I thought after 6 month I will receive Al. But have to wait 1 year. After cukup2 1 year I get 8 days Only. 3rd only I get 12 days & cannot accumulate.

The most annoying is 3 months resign notice.

3 months notice period is normal nowadays. Mine is like that too. It is annoying when it comes to job hunting when recruiters just turns you down when they hear about that.

Job Title : Master Data Analyst (also a Netsuite Administrator)
Job Desciption : In charge of ERP master data, data cleanup, create and maintain vendors/entities, create and customize reports & searches for end users
Age : 25
Years spent in company : 1 year
Industry : SVOD
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Kuala Lumpur

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary: RM3200
Contractual Bonus (months): none
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : none

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Free 1 year VOD subscription
Flexi Working Hours : Not official but manager allows it
Other Benefits : Free food on Friday once every fortnight


I have looked for similar positions i.e master data analyst & Netsuite administrator in Jobstreet, Indeed, Glassdoor, etc but very rarely do I see those in Malaysia. There are plenty of those in US though. What do you guys think of this?

Nope I don't work there. Not difficult to pinpoint players in water and WW industry. I started out in a Japanese company so I feel ya. But seriously your AL benefits sucks. My probation was 6 months but I got back 6 months worth after probation and every month I earn another AL which sums up 14 days a year and 1 month to serve resignation notice after confirmation.

Weren't the AL terms laid out in your contract before you accepted the offer?

This post has been edited by sidefulnes: Jan 14 2019, 11:48 PM

Good bro.

Dropout can still get 10k!
So you are just spm holder?

Stay there, you will see a huge bump after say 4-5 years.

Mine considered Diploma-level I guess.
I don't recommend skipping degree though. I just got lucky.

since we are at this topic, how does malaysia mnc look at master?
the last i heard the fresh grad salary diffs just mere 300-500?

Probably only one or two our of 10 bachelor dropout

may topup u 200-500 . but depends on negotiations

I'm also a Uni dropout, but i get my degree while working (distance learning)
It's common

I feel like posting my salary here just to get advise if im underpaid, but im scared HR will take action against me.

Salary is supposed to be confidential right? I know it's anonymous but someone can do a little bit digging and expose me.

Job Title : Key Account Manager
Job Desciption : sales
Age : 34
Years spent in company : just joined
Industry : Buildings /Construction /Engineering
Employment Level : Exec
Experience before joining (years) : 8
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor's Degree while studying MBA
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): flexible

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 10k, 13th month salary, incentive 40% of annual package if hit business target

This post has been edited by cynider: Jan 19 2019, 07:59 PM

No, not really. The reason why they want you to keep it as secret is for better management and reducing conflicts/politics among workers.

Imagine, when they newly hire a "10-years-experienced guy" , paying him RM15k.

But in the end, he is totally useless and always "tai chi" every task he gets assigned, while you and the other colleagues are cleaning his ass, but you get only RM8k salary.

This is how politics starts in a company and people will be like "fuck man, why should I do so much while he is getting 2x my salary but doing nothing?"

The business will go down if this situation persists.


But, so far I haven't heard of any punishment for exposing your own salary, especially to non-employee of the same company. Even you have exposed it to your beloved colleagues, you won't get fired due to that reason.

P.S.: I know roughly every of my teammates' salary. I don't ask them on purpose but they sometimes carelessly hinted me about their salary. Like after promotion/increment period, someone said "Hey I just got this certain credit card recently!". Googled, found out that card requires RM6k monthly income to apply.

confidential? lmao, that's what HR wants you to think. they have to protect the rice bowl.

u can't have your own colleague that does same job same scope but gets less than u. then HR will have to handle lots of complain.

so go ahead and post. then the one in the same industry will know if he's under or overpaid. we are here in a forum to help each other out

Haha i hope so too, are u from this field? Do u think an mba would be necessary later on?

1. No it is in no way or form confidential.



2. Since you are not posting the name of the company, doubtful someone will find out.

In any case, anyone trusted here can be PMed with the relevant information and in return be posted here lagi anonymously. HAH EAT THAT HR!
I would go for CFA than MBA. A buddy of mine is doing exactly that, around 5 years your senior. Makes about $US6k here in Malaysia.

This post has been edited by ViktorJ: Jan 22 2019, 12:54 AM