Final 2017 FORMULA 1 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP DRIVERS' STANDINGS
Lewis is WDC

1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 363
2 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 317
3 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 305
4 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 205
5 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 200
6 Max Verstappen Red Bull 168
7 Sergio Perez Force India 100
8 Esteban Ocon Force India 87
9 Carlos Sainz Renault Sport 54
10 Nico Hulkenberg Renault Sport 43
11 Felipe Massa Williams 43
12 Lance Stroll Williams 40
13 Romain Grosjean Haas 28
14 Kevin Magnussen Haas 19
15 Fernando Alonso McLaren 17
16 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren 13
17 Jolyon Palmer Renault Sport 8
18 Pascal Wehrlein Sauber 5
19 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso 5

Final 2017 FORMULA 1 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP CONSTRUCTORS' STANDINGS
Mercs is WCC
1 Mercedes 668
2 Ferrari 522
3 Red Bull 368
4 Force India 187
5 Williams 83
6 Renault Sport 57
7 Toro Rosso 53
8 Haas 47
9 McLaren 30
10 Sauber 5

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Aug 28 2020, 07:50 AM

4 more races to go in 2017:

US F1 GP result 22nd of October

Mexican F1 GP result 29th of October

Brazilian F1 GP result 12th of November

Abu Dhabi F1 GP result 26th of November

Thanks mate. Looks like Hamilton's running away with the title unless he caught Vettel's luck himself.

Yeah, looks like 2017 championship is practically done and dusted already. Seb needs a miracle to even make it close again.

Although I hope the miracle to happen, but we all know Lewis got this lol. Later technical problem for ferrari again

haha no need watch liao

the curse of MYGP 2016 has brought 4ward 2 team red

Come to think of it, I think better just for Ham to wrap up the title ASAP so that the rest of the remaining races everyone can just be open and race as they wish just for wins!

Guess it has been delayed till the next race at Mexico

muahahahaha V8 is very close

J whincup vs F coulthard 17 pts veteran vs rookie

more reason in ditching F1 4 good

HYPPTV got FOX 3 HD is the sole reason why I can finally see V8 in real HD unlike ASS #dontknowhowmany many years back

Awkward moment in the cool down room

Surprised there were no talk between Verstappen fans.... either that or there were no fans of his in this thread

Yeah that championship is super tight now at the top, only 27 points separated the top 3 from Whincup-Coulthard-McLaughlin with still hundreds of points up for grabs.

F1 is more like a snore fest now already.

Seems like Kimi himself did not feel comfortable getting handed down the position back.


I think despite not popular decision, it's still the right decision to demote Max from the podium because as per the rule you cannot gain an advantage by going all 4 wheels outside of the track which unfortunately he did when he overtook Kimi.

As for Max fan, yeah I don't think there's any hardcore Max fan here who is actively participating with us in the F1 thread. I like Max but I'm not a true fan of any current driver actually, just a fan of F1 in general.

Same with me... I generally enjoyed F1 till Vettel dominates the sport... until My wife bought me a F1 Malaysia GP as a present. Now my wife like F1 more than me... Haha...
BTW the penalties is justified... I know why max complaining about it but I don't understand why Niki Lauda, one of the great legends complaint about it.

She like bcuz of handsome hunk?

This post has been edited by skylinelover: Oct 23 2017, 05:39 PM

I think so at first but no.. I mean Max is cute I got it but if she only love for the faces, I think she only think of Max.
I show her US highlight and no statement like "Poor Verstappen, he racing so hard" something like that

This post has been edited by kirakosmos: Oct 23 2017, 06:17 PM

this more ballsy than senna lap record in suzuka 88

At least both of my Ferrari's mates got on the podium this time
Lewis got the champion for sure, close my eyes also know

This post has been edited by oOoproz: Oct 23 2017, 10:28 PM

Hahaha, Bathurst is an awesome track, one of my favorites to play in GT6!
Btw Senna's Monaco pole lap was even more ballsy coz most of the lap were done with just 1 hand on the steering!

Love this track when playing on RR3... it was called mount paramount in RR3. Too bad only limited to GTR and Lambor.

I think everyone was confused at the moment

I also agree penalty is justified, rules are rules. It may seem selective but everything is judged case by case basis. In max's case it was clearcut and decision was swift that's why it was sensationalised. Besides it was near the finish line.

This post has been edited by Aydee: Oct 24 2017, 06:37 PM

Budget cap plus development freeze kill the sport. Enough said. Very hard to catch up. Ferrari used to test everyday when they were down and under. All that were gone. Now it's more of a lottery.

haha dang the graphics forza 7 graphics more chun

This year confirmed 1 thing, Ferrari was superior than Mercedes but Hamilton is there to protect the reputation for Mercedes. See how Hamilton talked about he analyze Vettel's hard on cornering will make the tyres worse and gave him opportunity proved that... If Hamilton was to drive Ferrari, he might runaway with the championship already (Baku and Singapore incident), haha.

LOL max touch with vettel then vettel puncture hamilton rear tyre

ok its over, hamilton 2017 world champion

good race, hamilton vs alonso one of the best duel as alonso been told "good racing"

haha no wonder he finish 2nd last in points but still enough 2 be champ luckily

like 2013 all over again vettel resurrected with red bull after break and now same story in 2017 hammer time resurrected with Mercedes after break

I hope next year will be more intensive than prost vs senna as we finally have 2 on the grid 4x champ already

I'm surprised that he can turn after full braking at the end of the straight. I find it hard to turn in unless I released the brakes right before turning.

That fellow must be pro i guess😄😄😂😂

we always hype next season but always disappointed

So title fight finally over, hope next few races will be just free for all to fight.

Great performance by Max, this kid is really special and ballsy off the starting grid. RB really needs to make sure they have a good car next year or else he will be restless looking for another team which can win titles. I think Ferrari should buy him out to replace Kimi.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Oct 31 2017, 11:06 AM

Even this season looked so promising in the first half only to be settled this early already thanks to Ferrari unreliability and Seb's mistakes.

Hamilton must be enjoying the last championship trophy for Mercedes team... Everyone saying next year would be Verstappen vs Vettel races since now Renault and Ferrari has catch up on PU power deficit. Bye bye domination from Mercedes.

We'll see what happens with the development in the off season. Everyone also said Ferrari caught up with the Mercs earlier this year but look how they fell flat at some power tracks. I dont believe Ferrari and Renault have caught up yet in terms of power. It's just that their aero packages are probably better than the Mercs

One point to note is that McLaren chassis do look good now. Notice that in the twisty bits, Alonso was even able to pull away a bit from Ham! Ham only caught up and finally passed him due to the long straights, otherwise he would have had a tougher time or even not able to pass if McLaren just had a bit more top speed.

Their chassis good for current Honda speed, with higher speed then it might be different story, maybe rattle here and there then understeer etc..
But Renault not reliable also, so many PU failure this season. McLaren switching to it might not fare better than current situation...

Congrats Lewis on the championship!

But at least Renault can still provide more power and Renault powered cars have won a few races this year. I think McLaren cannot do worse than now.

today is the 9th anniversary of the most dramatic Brazilian GP ever seen



and I still remember almost threw the bottle 2 the screen when Hamilton overtake last corner of last lap

aaaaa good old times mang

Hahaha yeah, that was a nail bitter! I was actually supporting Ham instead of Massa back then coz I just think Massa is not WDC material and I wanted the new fresh young blood to win.

Ferrari threatening to leave again in 2021

Not surprising

They should done it long time ago

Follow porsche route competing in le mans😄👍

This post has been edited by skylinelover: Nov 4 2017, 06:54 PM

Compete Formula E lar.. electric race car is future trend. Those V8 V10 V12 going to obsolete edi.

You mean Le Mans LMP?? That series is about to die man! Might as well stay in F1 rather than joining a dying series la!

Ugh that will be the time I stop watching car racing all together!

Haha not australian V8 though bcuz it is meant 2 stay forever😄😄👍👍

Haha deng LMP dying😲😲😲😲

Haha still got australian V8 racing ma...that one confirm not dying👍👍way better than NASCAR and INDY surely👍👍

It's not called V8 Supercars anymore though, it's Virgin Australia Supercar series ever since Branson's Virgin Airlines became the main sponsor a few years back. And the engine formula is going to change soon to some turbocharge unit and no more V8 engines.

Install a loudspeaker to mimic V8 roar, then it would be no difference to older f1 days edi, haha.

sorry I know it is not related here but deng I want 2 do some track testing drive one day in the off season

now I am in my 4th month self employed and I project I can afford the hire purchase in 2 years time being early 30s

https://www.carlist.my/recon-cars/2014-niss...c-unreg/4138266

anyone like 2 be my guest on the passenger seat

Great!, I'd like to join.

Naah looking at those cars with such skinny bike-like tires just does not appeal to me. Maybe if in the future the cars look better and muscular with similar speeds like F1 then I might be interested to watch. Of course the driver's caliber should also be top notch, not F1 rejects like now.

Wah rich man toy! Ready to pay the road tax too??
I'd be glad to be your guest though!

No issues

Rich man indeed!

check out fisi first ever win

So a rare time Ham messed up qualifying and starting from the pit. Hopefully would be an interesting all out race fighting for each own result.

1st lap carnage lol

Also the Mercedes is like lmp1 and those torro rosso sauber is like gte pro class

Quite a boring race, better go sleep lol

Yeah, pretty boring race actually coz no fight from the top 3 and Ham was so easy to overtake others until he reached Kimi but Kimi had it all under control (probably also proof that Ferrari engine is about as powerful as the Mercs despite Ham having a fresh new engine).

The closer fight should've been between Massa/Alonso/Perez but the camera was focusing on the wrong fight. Good that Alonso still able to hold off Perez to regain his points lead from Stoffel, and Massa able to have a decent last home race.

Unusual for brazil to be boring..

let me show you what real F1 racing should be like hahahaha


haha dang afonso streak continues but FINALLY massa is faster than you

Alonso would have overtaken Massa if not for the weak Honda. Can see how low on power the Honda is as even with the DRS open he still cannot match Merc powered cars top speeds. Same case also in Mexico, he barely can keep up on the straight even with the DRS open. Without DRS open, he's just a sitting duck.

Seems 2nd drivers from Ferrari and Merc not able to extract the car to maximum for a win. Only Hamilton and Vettel can consistently doing that. Contrast to what outside ppl believe it's the car that gifted Hamilton win this season..

Well that's why both of them are 4 times champ! Kimi on his day back in the mid 2000s was very fast and should be able to match Seb & Ham at least in the dry but now no more. Bottas, well he still have to prove himself as this is still his first year in a top team and his results are actually pretty good in the first half but he kinda drop the ball in the second half. Hopefully next year he will be better and more consistent.

Car wise, F1 has always been car dominant first and racer 2nd, so whoever wins the title surely must have had the best if not one of the best cars for that year.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Nov 13 2017, 03:31 PM

I applaud Alonso for his day of winning world championship with less competitive Renault. He managed to keep Schumacher and Raikkonen behind with his nice defensive drive. Many occasion Schumacher and Raikkonen not able to overtake him with faster car

Yup Alonso was excellent when he won those 2 titles. He was like an underdog who beat all the odds to win. However the Renault back then was at least a good chassis too and at least more reliable especially compared to the fast but fragile McLaren of Kimi that time.

Haha this year is italy worst nightmare ever

Losing the F1 title and now not heading to world cup😂😂😂😂

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/the-match/60/po...reach-world-cup

it will be an interesting racing next year liberty media time 2 bow down 2 the new king of racing series hahahaha

http://www.supercars.com/news/championship...points-new-ceo/

the best last lap battle ever way better than real life entire season easily hahahaha

defensive driving 101

so final race coming this weekend, can Hamilton beat the superior Vettel-Ferrari package? Since championship race is over, both race wheel-to-wheel, without fear of accident and engine failure. Haha.

I want someone else other than those 2 to win.

nowadays still can race wheel to wheel?? I thought they will be penalized

Got, I remembered Belgium GP there's a brief moment of Vettel vs Hamilton wheel to wheel. Ferrari was clearly faster but Hamilton did some brave move to close back the door.

So Bottas on pole from Ham, hopefully he can hold on to win.

boring race at the front

but some good action midfield

Being a front runner is not so good commercially these days as coverage is lesser than the battles behind.

What a boring final race! Such a contrast with the earlier Australian Supercars climax where Scotty screwed up his race with 3 penalties and gave the title to Jamie!

And the F1 logo, the old one was way much better leh!

F1 heading towards the inevitable 'Americanization'

What's next, street race at some US cities?

Some time ago there was an idea to have it in Las Vegas right?

what a final boring race to end the halo-LESS era!
Next year enforcement of halo, i wonder why not windscreen instead?

Don't know, maybe the screen will be more problematic if raining (need wipers?? ) In any case, both are damn ugly!

Yes... and not just American cities, Vietnam also.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-bosse...tnam-gp-961514/

haha inexperienced kicked in yo maybe next year then hahahaha



this still the best logo intro ever

Yeah, Scotty's undoing was his poor move against Simona that spun her, hence got him a second 15 sec penalty.

Agree, that old logo during the 80s-90s was still my favorite too.

Happy holiday F1 kaki😄😄😄🎉🎉🎉

Yah boring time now on TV.

bloody heck this aussie V8 racing more dramatic than F1 2008 last race easily



even papa senna will be proud of that dirty cheating defensive blocking

i would like 2 see the reaction when an F1 car hit that wall ledge at 300+km/h

That's also typical Schumy move, blocking when the other guy is already overlapping. He had done that to Mika in Spa in Kemmel straight until Mika went to the grass before Mika attacked again in the next lap to overtake & win. He did the same to Rubens in Hungary if not mistaken, almost crashing Rubens into the pit wall but luckily Rubens just plow thru and Schumy relented. Senna did very similar to Prost in Portugal front straight after being done the same on the start by Prost (who squeezed Senna to the grass a bit) and this became the very start of their bitter intra team fight. Rosberg did the same to Ham in Barcelona that crashed them both.

The old dog Lowndes despite his dismal season, ultimately played a pivotal team role in helping Jamie won the title. If he had not challenged like that, Scotty would have still won the title.

another last lap racing like grand finale even better than 1990 race



already make F1 like slow arse boring

this is the 1990 race starring notty notty

Meanwhile... another 4 years term for Monsieur Dato Seri Jean Todt (hopefully this will be the last)

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/jean-tod...esident-987039/

Yah, that F3 race was crazy! But it shows how immature both those leading drivers were, racing all out until both crashed and gave the win away. That will never happen in F1 coz the drivers would have been more mature.

it is interesting to see how Liberty Media going to keep Ferrari happy. Sure, F1 can still exist without Ferrari, but it will not be the same. Imo, people watched F1 to see Ferrari win (ferrari fan), or to see other team beat them (the rest...haha).

It's a very sensitive issue with Ferrari coz they get the most money and surely would not want it reduced, that's why they threaten to quit. It's all about the revenue distribution. McLaren also still gets quite a big chunk of that pot despite not able to win a race for several years now.

Where's Nick Heidfeld? He now with Formula E?

Yes. Racing happily. FE is all the F1 retiree and F1 rejects playground.😄😄😃😃

No wonder I thought I saw him on TV for the HK round! F1 retiree indeed, but dun think he's an F1 reject. LoL.

I sapot him back when he joined Sauber Petronas. So much potential, that kid