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danilo5753
post Aug 24 2007, 07:54 PM

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1 more question . If i have go to gym frequently and i suddenly need to stop for some period, will my mussle become fat ? or i will become more fat than before ?
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post Aug 24 2007, 07:56 PM

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"Muscle cells slowly transform, morph, and evolve into fat cells. This is known as lipomoronification." -- Mike Lane


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post Aug 24 2007, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(danilo5753 @ Aug 24 2007, 07:54 PM)
1 more question . If i have go to gym frequently and i suddenly need to stop for some period, will my mussle become fat ? or i will become more fat than before ?
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In case you dunno what that means... its:

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Lipomoronification
The myth where people assume that fat cells and muscle cells are made of the same structure which are interchangeable.

Scenario 1:
When you're fat, and you start lifting weights, your fat turns into muscles.

Scenario 2:
I stopped weight training and my muscles have turned into fats.

Both examples shows that people assume that the muscle cells and fat cells can change from one to another. In truth, this is not so. In scenario 1, what they will see from the results of a newer exercising lifestyle matched with a suitable diet is a reduction in bodyfat and increase in muscle mass. It is not the transformation of fat into muscles. In Scenario 2, a person who stops exercising and does NOT watch his diet (eating excessively) will experience a reduction in muscle size and an increase in fat amounts. This means that one increases as the other reduces. A muscle cell cannot transform into a fat cell and neither can a fat cell transform into a muscle cell.


sauce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipomoronification

so, to answer danilo5753, if you stop exercising, but then you continue to eat correctly, (enough protein to maintain muscles size and your total calories intake meets maintenance levels) your muscles should not shrink in size, and you would not put on weight/fats.

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post Aug 24 2007, 09:42 PM

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post Aug 24 2007, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 24 2007, 01:28 PM)
Remember the age old myth,
when bbers stop training, their muscle gets turned to fat?

whoever said that always kena shoot with the explanation
"muscle do not turn to fat, when u stop training, they simply shrink".

IMHO
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My take on this,
To gain muscle, u eat heck alot... after years and years of training, u have grown used
to the diet. If you stop training, but you still eat like a bodybuilder, you get fat.
and that's where the myth came from.

use some logic.
Muscles enables you to move, while fats are simple energy storage.
Both are composed of different things, so how can they be one another?

IMHO
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post Aug 24 2007, 10:27 PM

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King,

"Brevity is the soul of wit" - Shakespeare

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danilo5753
post Aug 24 2007, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Neek @ Aug 24 2007, 08:25 PM)
In case you dunno what that means... its:
sauce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipomoronification

so, to answer danilo5753, if you stop exercising, but then you continue to eat correctly, (enough protein to maintain muscles size and your total calories intake meets maintenance levels) your muscles should not shrink in size, and you would not put on weight/fats.
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Thanks mate , now i understand it already ..

So i can feel more comfortable to stop my training a bit , and eat enough protein to maintain my muscles smile.gif
Anyway , i dont really eat much if i dont do weight lifting ..coz i want my fat to be burn out .
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 24 2007, 10:27 PM)
King,

"Brevity is the soul of wit" - Shakespeare

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can you say that in a way that even people like me can understand ? sweat.gif
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post Sep 1 2007, 09:44 PM

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Hey guys, just wanna ask right... nowadays i drink milo + fruit as dinner. Why I choose milo is because it's free in my company's pantry, haha! But I wonder does it contain alot of sugar? Cos milo seems to be sweet drink also..

Btw, I have very little rice nowadays, with alot of dishes (vege/meat). And I swim for 1 hour almost everyday. The result.... I think I dint shake off even 1 kg for 1 week's effort. Damn!
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 24 2007, 09:42 PM)
Awww you guys are so sweet to steal a quote from my siggy biggrin.gif

Neek, you're a funny monkey. Should post often wink.gif
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Lol, you're probably the only one that got the joke. tongue.gif
danilo5753
post Sep 21 2007, 02:04 AM

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Damm , now is 2.02am and i cant sleep because of starving hungry.
I took my dinner too early today around 6pm and i go to bed at 1am.
Strunggled for about 30 minutes and feeling a bit of gastric , and i just take Milo with oat ( 2 tablespoon ) . Well , any solution to prevent this happen again ?
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post Sep 21 2007, 05:59 AM

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Danilo, I usually take a cup of milk before bed. Fills that tummy up for ya smile.gif
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post Sep 23 2007, 10:33 AM

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I didn't do any weightlifting. All I did was about 1 hour jog every evening and breakdown my meals in smaller portions and eat accordingly, and not take any fastfood like instant noodles, etc. In about 1 month I just shave about 2KG permanently. Can feel a bit different than before la...I get hungry quick. My body also toned down a bit that my friend can actually realize it.

I don't really take supper though. Usually I will just drink one or two glasses of cold water before going to sleep. But breakfast is a must for me.

But then again, I've always been like a balloon. I think different ppl might get different result.

I just need to slim down my face sweat.gif

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post Sep 23 2007, 12:08 PM

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guys, i am curious here. cycling is a cardio activity too rite? so does tat mean tat we shud cycle very hard tat we can feel our heart beat fast or just normal cycling will do? and is hiking hill considered as a cardio?

also, is taking milo o kosong(solely milo without sugar and concentrated milk) for breakfast ok?
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QUOTE(bidfordun @ Sep 23 2007, 01:08 PM)
guys, i am curious here. cycling is a cardio activity too rite? so does tat mean tat we shud cycle very hard tat we can feel our heart beat fast or just normal cycling will do? and is hiking hill considered as a cardio?
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Cycling is cardio. I think you should read this article if you wanna lose those weight or fat or burn calories...
What is High Intensity Interval training

QUOTE(bidfordun @ Sep 23 2007, 01:08 PM)
also, is taking milo o kosong(solely milo without sugar and concentrated milk) for breakfast ok?
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I think you should consider taking something more nutritious for your breakfast. If you're taking protein inthe morning, I suggest you blend your protein shake with a heap scoop of oatmeal and milk.. its nutritious and simply delicious smile.gif


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QUOTE(soulfly @ Sep 23 2007, 11:33 AM)
I just need to slim down my face  sweat.gif
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I guess you're one of the millions who have cute chubby face.. its better than a sinker or a sagger though

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hmm, 6a6y6lue, i take a bowl of oatmeal and a cup of milo for breakfast. is it good enuf?
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QUOTE(6a6y6lue @ Sep 23 2007, 05:28 PM)
I guess you're one of the millions who have cute chubby face.. its better than a sinker or a sagger though
how do u know i'm cute? lol

anyway i see u r located at 'oil town'... miri? where?

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post Sep 24 2007, 06:44 AM

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QUOTE(bidfordun @ Sep 23 2007, 07:48 PM)
hmm, 6a6y6lue, i take a bowl of oatmeal and a cup of milo for breakfast. is it good enuf?
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Yup, that's good enough. I salute everybody who eat oatmeal in the morning notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(soulfly @ Sep 23 2007, 08:27 PM)
how do u know i'm cute? lol

anyway i see u r located at 'oil town'... miri? where?
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He he he.. Pujut area... how about you? Which gym do you go?

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QUOTE(6a6y6lue @ Sep 24 2007, 06:44 AM)
Yup, that's good enough. I salute everybody who eat oatmeal in the morning  notworthy.gif

He he he.. Pujut  area... how about you? Which gym do you go?
I live in Pujut 9.
I never go to gym laugh.gif

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Soulfly,

since your photography is excellent, come and see Mr. X-trim this coming October at Imperial hotel. Take good pictures and show us your skills biggrin.gif

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