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post Aug 8 2017, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Aug 8 2017, 09:39 AM)
Wei.....slapping your self again strategist master with vast internal knowledge and extensive connection inside car industry...bila elantra sport in pakai VGT?

There are only a handful of petrol engined cars' turbochargers that uses VGT type.

Again, please fact check before you post. Most of BMW's lower ranged engine, even though turbocharged are mostly single turbocharger and twinscroll type. You actually fall flat with their "twinpower turbo" tagline??
There is no such thing as outclass or primitive turbocharger, it is the selection criteria by the car makes to optimise their performance and cost range.

Timing belt mechanism is fundamentally similar, just how durable before they snap. And no, when it ages, it won't slip.
You don't even understand what you are saying and you now memperbodohkan and memperendahkan those turbocharger engineers. Eh....they also have quality standards to meet la....you tau apa TS 16949?? There are no low quality turbochargers, but there are ranges for lower power requirements.

All modshop that get properly sourced turbochargers are of good operational quality. If you say they anyhow recondition/refurbish the turbocharger, this comment can accept; if you say they simply recommend, this also have some level of acceptability. If modshop know how to select and have the cash, they can choose anything in the aftermarket range.

You drop S7 and J1 on the floor, both also can still function after that. The fundamentals will always remain working despite lower range products. Get your understanding right.

I know you won't read, but for those who are actually curious how turbochargers are internally tested :
http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/...ontainment.aspx
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bro .. u really free to entertain him ..i dont even bother reading his essay (loaded with craps)...

Read article ? ... please.. he only read BROCHURE... (selective brochure ... he decide which one is correct)
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post Aug 8 2017, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 8 2017, 02:56 AM)
This is my working hour  biggrin.gif what about u
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Not my working hour but I baca everything till this hour
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post Aug 8 2017, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 8 2017, 09:52 AM)
bro .. u really free to entertain him ..i dont even bother reading his essay (loaded with craps)...

Read article ? ... please.. he only read BROCHURE... (selective brochure ... he decide which one is correct)
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Most show some "respect" mah ~~~

He also damn pro in spec analysis, can just see the spec and know the engineering shit or no shit without actually knowing any substantive engineering thumbsup.gif


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post Aug 8 2017, 10:56 AM

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you guys got his fb? memang long essay pro
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post Aug 8 2017, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(monocle @ Aug 8 2017, 10:56 AM)
you guys got his fb? memang long essay pro
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K3nnYkl82
post Aug 8 2017, 11:53 AM

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Forward me... Pm pm
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post Aug 8 2017, 12:29 PM

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I tot monocle is the one who has his FB? hmm.gif I'm waiting for his PM
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post Aug 8 2017, 12:35 PM

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TSjayraptor
post Aug 8 2017, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 8 2017, 01:32 AM)
Already posted the exact turbocharger for you to see, still mau pusing. Pls do yourself a favour and stop digging that hole you are in.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/ford-eco...ined-56142.html
What Ward's best engine? that is for the US market only. We are talking about International Engine of The Year.

Yes, 58 judges from all over the world in the International Engine of The Year judging panel is not as smart as one person like you, awarding the same engine the award for 3 years in a row. In fact the 1.0 Ecoboost is still dominating the sub-1.0l category until now.

In case you don't know what is International Engine of The Year

https://www.ukimediaevents.com/engineoftheyear/

Not only don't know anything, but in deep denial and continue to make up fairytales to cover up your ignorance and incompetence.

Master strategist konon. No wonder Honda sunk to the bottom of JDpower's customer satisfaction rating.
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Fyi, most of the everyone's favourite and best reliable durable engine with proper power and torque never won any award. That Ecoboost 1.0 nominated best, but in reality world, maintenance costs higher, bearing the name Fixed Or Repair Daily. The first negative point is the expensive belt already. So your point is?

JD Power, Captain Power, Power Ranger, whatsoever, they can nominate whoever best but again it is reality world that people determine which best. If JD Power could nominate Porsche as best reliable, uh that's not everyday car and richmen could pay any sums for best service and spare parts. Honda getting poor score with JD Power but real world, their service still there. If Korean service so damn good, how come got numbers of complain despite so far less customers at service centre? Ranging from slow service to poor workmanship, turning owners round and round with wrong parts being fixed, or left with no spare parts having to wait few weeks to 1-2 months?

Whatever award, it is reality world results that counts
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post Aug 8 2017, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Aug 8 2017, 06:43 AM)
Bro, you haven't teach me lel. What turbo installed in Civic 1.5T hah? Don't forget bro.

Whoa, your Japanese strategist friend also Ah Beng, so fast mod the Elantra Sport already. First modded Elantra Sport in Malaysia man.

Stock ES boost to 10-13 psi only and cap this boost flat 1500 to 4500rpm. Wah, your Ah Beng Japanese strategist friends boost all the way to 1.5bar which is over 21psi. Somemore continuously to raise until 5000rpm. This is a monster man, how much power it made? I would have guess 280-300 mark with such high boost. At least 250 on the wheel when dyno like that. How much is the VGT and from which aftermarket brand? Response better than then stock BorgWarner K03 twinscroll? What other mod? Where they do ECU remap? Big gulp cold intake? High flow cat converter?

Wah, SD really should have hire your friend, really put money to mod competitors' car. Kudos to your Ah Beng Japanese strategist.
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You forgot that I won't say anything much that touches any cars related to buddies companies?

You too ego to win until twisting elsewhere or you don't know anything about Elantra Sport? Do you really own this car in the first place? Or its just a borrowed unit?

You don't need to mod a car to test its turboboost. The Elantra Sport is all original and new. What you said just hinted that the bunch of useless korean marketing people probably don't know anything about Elantra Sport, another wanted to buy Japanese makes mentality probably. No wonder so easily defeated by Japanese cars.

Those Korean companies are dumbest to brain drain the best people to Japanese rivals. That's why Japanese marketing knew so much about Korean cars.
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 8 2017, 12:29 PM)
I tot monocle is the one who has his FB? hmm.gif I'm waiting for his PM
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Don't pm, post link here to share if found. My buddies with fb can view and show me shows that guy. I can check how good that guy is.
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post Aug 8 2017, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 8 2017, 09:34 PM)
Fyi, most of the everyone's favourite and best reliable durable engine with proper power and torque never won any award. That Ecoboost 1.0 nominated best, but in reality world, maintenance costs higher, bearing the name Fixed Or Repair Daily. The first negative point is the expensive belt already. So your point is?

JD Power, Captain Power, Power Ranger, whatsoever, they can nominate whoever best but again it is reality world that people determine which best. If JD Power could nominate Porsche as best reliable, uh that's not everyday car and richmen could pay any sums for best service and spare parts. Honda getting poor score with JD Power but real world, their service still there. If Korean service so damn good, how come got numbers of complain despite so far less customers at service centre? Ranging from slow service to poor workmanship, turning owners round and round with wrong parts being fixed, or left with no spare parts having to wait few weeks to 1-2 months?

Whatever award, it is reality world results that counts
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yes yes only your opinion counts and nobody else.

Oh BTW, don't try to putar. Where is your twinscroll turbo used in the Fiesta ST?

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post Aug 8 2017, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 8 2017, 09:44 PM)
You forgot that I won't say anything much that touches any cars related to buddies companies?

You too ego to win until twisting elsewhere or you don't know anything about Elantra Sport? Do you really own this car in the first place? Or its just a borrowed unit?

You don't need to mod a car to test its turboboost. The Elantra Sport is all original and new. What you said just hinted that the bunch of useless korean marketing people probably don't know anything about Elantra Sport, another wanted to buy Japanese makes mentality probably. No wonder so easily defeated by Japanese cars.

Those Korean companies are dumbest to brain drain the best people to Japanese rivals. That's why Japanese marketing knew so much about Korean cars.
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My Elantra Sport and the rest stock Elantra Sport in the world boost 10 - 13psi = no more than 0.9 bar. The car also run K03 twinscroll turbo from BorgWarner.

Your Elantra Sport boost 1.5 bar until 5000rpm and use VGT. You sure stock or you make the crap out of air?

You sure brand new ah? Your ego to win until twisting everywhere or you don't know anything about Elantra Sport?

Go ahead to edit your old post and say you never said Elantra Sport boost 1.5 bar and has VGT. C'mon edit your old post and call me liar. I'm waiting bro.

So Civic 1.5T use what turbo is a secret? Hahaha, it is all over internet. First day it launch people already doing tear down. Your friend never tell you ke? Yeah crazy American. Or they are all unverified source.

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post Aug 8 2017, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 8 2017, 11:07 PM)
yes yes only your opinion counts and nobody else.

Oh BTW, don't try to putar. Where is your twinscroll turbo used in the Fiesta ST?
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Celaka, criticize him wrong, praise him also wrong.

What I can do hah? Really hard to babysit our bossy bro.
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post Aug 9 2017, 06:58 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 8 2017, 09:44 PM)
Those Korean companies are dumbest to brain drain the best people to Japanese rivals.
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True. I genuinely believe this. No wonder UMW Toyota and Nissan are acting like Hyundai/Kia - new car launches with stripped features. Cut cost even on cup holders. When sales bad then retro fit the features one-by-one. Honda also starting to follow the korean by -2 airbags on latest hybrid launches as well as lousy SC response.



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post Aug 9 2017, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 8 2017, 09:34 PM)
Whatever award, it is reality world results that counts
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So are you living in reality?

QUOTE(constant_weight @ Aug 8 2017, 11:43 PM)
Celaka, criticize him wrong, praise him also wrong.

What I can do hah? Really hard to babysit our bossy bro.
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Now you understand why i warned you earlier? Aiya....just post facts, let him refute the facts and tornado twist to a new "j physics class"....to embarrass himself.....on post #445, bloody sweet shattered his ego.

He knows no engineering, pretends to know engineering, boast of his misunderstanding of complicated engineering, can never fact check his engineering, blindly believe whatever "toyota technical person" engineering, "engineering" his engineering....

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Aug 9 2017, 08:37 AM
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post Aug 9 2017, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Aug 9 2017, 08:35 AM)
He knows no engineering, pretends to know engineering, boast of his misunderstanding of complicated engineering, can never fact check his engineering, blindly believe whatever "toyota technical person" engineering, "engineering" his engineering....
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i help u summarize... he knows nothing..
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post Aug 9 2017, 08:18 PM

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All the turbo talk...I takda turbo car also...drive NA saja and some more old car.

Pening with Dr.Jay long posting also.

This post has been edited by TitanRev: Aug 9 2017, 08:21 PM
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post Aug 9 2017, 08:39 PM

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i help u summarize... he knows nothing..
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Ok lah, quite fun laughing at his fool. Good way to release stress.

He's been dealing with traditional uncle/aunty kind of consumer for the major part of his life. They only understand chrome doors, leather seats, AC cold or not, fake wood panels kinda stuff. Other things whatever he can bluff = fact.

Actually pity him as this is sunset for the marketing strategist nonsense job. It will be eliminated in few years, already happening.

The job is being replaced by business analyst witb data scientist degree. IoT, Big Data, data modeling and analytic are the present and future. All our search pattern, YouTube views, even contextual analytic of our comments of the forum will tell the fact of what customers want.

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post Aug 9 2017, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 8 2017, 11:07 PM)
yes yes only your opinion counts and nobody else.

Oh BTW, don't try to putar. Where is your twinscroll turbo used in the Fiesta ST?
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Do I look like I own Fiesta 1.0T Ecoboost? It's a car that I won't buy because it failed practicality.

output 123hp@6000rpm
Torque 170Nm@1,400-4,500rpm

You look at its torque, only twinscroll or VGT type turbocharger could kicks in from 1400rpm. A primitive turbo like what Kenny's selling can never do below 2000rpm.

You putar-belit yet wanted to say others putar. I'm still sticking to facts talk so far. If all my comments are wrong, you would have attacked each and every of them. Even the earlier fairy tale comments turned out to be facts when I completed the sentence.

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