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 Kia Optima GT 2017 at rm179k

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TSjayraptor
post Jun 6 2017, 10:24 PM, updated 9y ago

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New Optima GT launched and priced at rm179k powered by Nu 2.0L turbocharged boosted to 3.5L strength. Reminds me of when Mondeo 2.0T launched at Rm180k and eventually failed. What were they thinking? Most D segments sold are 2.0L at rm140-150k. Probably don't know how to compete head on with Japanese D segment so brought in turbocharged 2.0L hoping to gain some sales competing with Japanese 2.4L and 2.5L D segments. FC result in America, the FC of 2.0T Optima/Sonata are higher than 2.4L NA Optima & Sonata. What do the people here think? Looks like they think themselves as conti car selling at cbu conti price now. Chain reaction, the sales volume also become like conti in the past. Conti today instead playing by the rule going CKD competing with Japanese at Japanese price range.

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rcracer
post Jun 6 2017, 10:39 PM

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Many many many continental going to get offended can't keep up
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post Jun 7 2017, 08:56 AM

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Remember, it's a KIA.

Whatever shit they do to it, it's still a KIA, a brand that practically screamy "hey i got no money but i wanna buy a big car".

Same like buying a fake LV bag. Looks the same, but feels and holds a totally different reputation.
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post Jun 7 2017, 09:10 AM

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Most so called high class D segment are already priced at RM180-200k, e.g. mazda 6, mondeo, etc. There was a Japanese D segment car is priced at RM240k - Subaru Legacy which perhaps failed in Malaysia but it's a very nice car to drive and own.
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post Jun 7 2017, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Jun 7 2017, 09:10 AM)
Most so called high class D segment are already priced at RM180-200k, e.g. mazda 6, mondeo, etc. There was a Japanese D segment car is priced at RM240k - Subaru Legacy which perhaps failed in Malaysia but it's a very nice car to drive and own.
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In Malaysia at least , I feel the Japanese premiums are much better value than any entry level continental , much better specs , more space, better reliability, economy
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post Jun 7 2017, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jun 7 2017, 09:16 AM)
In Malaysia at least , I feel the Japanese premiums are much better value than any entry level continental , much better specs , more space, better reliability, economy
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Agreed but knowing Malaysian, most of us will go with the Brand instead of better value. Just spoke to a friend last night on this. 90% of Malaysian will go for a continental brand if it's priced the same as d segment Japanese made. E.g. A200 vs Mazda 6 2.5 FL. 90% of Malaysians would definitely go for A200 because it's a Merc! Regardless that Mazda 6 is a more comfortable, better drive and spacious, Malaysians would always be brand conscious coz they'll get to say... "I'm driving a Benz!" Haha..
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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Jun 7 2017, 09:24 AM)
Agreed but knowing Malaysian, most of us will go with the Brand instead of better value. Just spoke to a friend last night on this. 90% of Malaysian will go for a continental brand if it's priced the same as d segment Japanese made. E.g. A200 vs Mazda 6 2.5 FL. 90% of Malaysians would definitely go for A200 because it's a Merc! Regardless that Mazda 6 is a more comfortable, better drive and spacious, Malaysians would always be brand conscious coz they'll get to say... "I'm driving a Benz!" Haha..
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Not really la , A200 and Mazda 6 is too big class difference , most would say instead of mazd 6 to 'top up' another 40-50k for the 320i that doesn't even have a reverse camera
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post Jun 7 2017, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jun 7 2017, 09:28 AM)
Not really la , A200 and Mazda 6 is too big class difference , most would say instead of mazd 6 to 'top up' another 40-50k for the 320i that doesn't even have a reverse camera
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Actually that's what my friend did. He bought the A200 as its priced almost similar. He's proud driving a Benz! laugh.gif
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post Jun 7 2017, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Spitzer @ Jun 7 2017, 08:56 AM)
Remember, it's a KIA.

Whatever shit they do to it, it's still a KIA, a brand that practically screamy "hey i got no money but i wanna buy a big car".

Same like buying a fake LV bag. Looks the same, but feels and holds a totally different reputation.
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The fuck? KIA is not pretending to be anything or duping consumers, not comparable to fake LV.
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post Jun 7 2017, 12:33 PM

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Can't download Optima GT brochure from Kia website. Failed.

Anyone has them?
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post Jun 7 2017, 12:43 PM

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Cannot compare with mazda 6. That one also not selling well especially the 2.5L model. Ppl here who wants a D segment car look for a spacious car, comfortable and quiet cabin. These 3 things are Mazda 6 weakness compare to the rest of the D segment competition. Pros of Mazda 6 lies in the steering wheel which gives the best feedback and adequate weight, and the interior design and premium material.
If ppl want a big d segment and need alot of power, can always go for the new passat with detuned golf gti engine.
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post Jun 7 2017, 02:29 PM

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D segmen is for uncle
Where got uncle drive at 200kmh ? Or zig zag in karak hway to unleashed the 380nm ?

Most uncle in D segmen always kena high beam with me coz drive 110kmh at right lane... Sighhh
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post Jun 7 2017, 04:27 PM

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New Kia Optima GT is powered by Theta II 2.0 GDI turbo, please do your homework first before comment anything
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post Jun 7 2017, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(alphaz @ Jun 7 2017, 12:11 PM)
The fuck? KIA is not pretending to be anything or duping consumers, not comparable to fake LV.
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Of course not comparable to fake LV, its totally a lower grade then that because it's so obvious a KIA doh.gif

It's a KIA, seriously I don't have to say more, Even if you drive a proton people will still guess "hmmm ni kroni kaya punya daily ride ker or someone rich low profile ker"

But showing up with a KIA basically confirms you're a poorfag. This is Malaysia, brand matters. ALOT.

You don't see sales people proudly drive a kia, they rather spend that money buy a madza la.
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post Jun 7 2017, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(Spitzer @ Jun 7 2017, 04:29 PM)
Of course not comparable to fake LV, its totally a lower grade then that because it's so obvious a KIA doh.gif

It's a KIA, seriously I don't have to say more, Even if you drive a proton people will still guess "hmmm ni kroni kaya punya daily ride ker or someone rich low profile ker"

But showing up with a KIA basically confirms you're a poorfag. This is Malaysia, brand matters. ALOT.

You don't see sales people proudly drive a kia, they rather spend that money buy a madza la.
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Nothing is wrong with KIA. You're a brand snob you only see brand ok we understand.

I ride Mercedes bus wow so high class!
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post Jun 7 2017, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(alphaz @ Jun 7 2017, 04:48 PM)
Nothing is wrong with KIA. You're a brand snob you only see brand ok we understand.

I ride Mercedes bus wow so high class!
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Your "We" means people that who bought KIA and are living in denial.

My "We" is the general public perception oh and oso ahmois perception.

"Eh u drive what car?"
"Ooo Kia lo"
"Ha... ha... ok bye"

As compared to

"What car u drive oo?"
"Mercedes"
"*jilat mode-ON"

Don't kid yourself lah please, nobody gives a shit u drive a gt or k576858 or whatever model in the end ppl still will still remember you as "oh neh that sohai lang that drives a KIA lo", people recognise car just by their brand, end of story.
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post Jun 7 2017, 09:08 PM

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shut up and take mymoney !
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post Jun 7 2017, 09:29 PM

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Mondeo 2012 2nd value only around 80k ...this kia RV after 5 year maybe down to 60k
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QUOTE(Spitzer @ Jun 7 2017, 08:46 PM)
Your "We" means people that who bought KIA and are living in denial.

My "We" is the general public perception oh and oso ahmois perception.

"Eh u drive what car?"
"Ooo Kia lo"
"Ha... ha... ok bye"

As compared to

"What car u drive oo?"
"Mercedes"
"*jilat mode-ON"

Don't kid yourself lah please, nobody gives a shit u drive a gt or k576858 or whatever model in the end ppl still will still remember you as "oh neh that sohai lang that drives a KIA lo", people recognise car just by their brand, end of story.
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Nope, not in denial. I just don't care. Any budget range can get used merc/bmw if you need brand as ahmoi bait. Got a friend who bought new civic coz his relatives keep teasing him for driving civic FD. But not everyone is in his situation.

QUOTE(SoFlush @ Jun 7 2017, 10:24 PM)
Apa nih? Lu budak gua or apa? Baru datang KL?

Lol of course lah "mercedes" is way, WAY more prestigious then KIA  doh.gif  doh.gif  bodoh tahap mahadewi

with that amount of money, you can get a recon bmw/merc already lah, apa pulak get a KIA rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Look at this dimwit captain obvious. Keep buying recon cars if it makes you happy.
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post Jun 7 2017, 11:51 PM

2.6b dah masuk bro
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Have to agree with master marketing king this time...


Hard to find ppl to spend 179K for this car...



For those comparing merc vs kia.

Sorry, in sales, merc is the choice here, or BMW.

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