Even if this was priced at RM150k, I doubt sales will be great. People normally relate Kia & Hyundai with low resale value and expensive & unavailable spare parts in comparison to their Japanese counterparts.

The Passat turbo is RM199K OTR without insurance. With the RM15K discount for Raya promotion it comes to RM184K which is still RM9K more than Optima GT at RM175K OTR without insurance.

But let's say if both cars are sold at the same price why would people buy an Optima instead of a Passat? There are many possible reasons I can think of:

1. A Korean car is generally more reliable than a Continental car.
2. Passat will be more expensive to maintain after warranty with higher cost of spare parts, harder to repair and more expensive labour.
3. 6 speed auto transmission is more reliable than DSG and smoother in low speed traffic.
4. Passat's adaptive dampers are wear and tear items and are damn expensive to replace.
5. Optima GT is CBU from Korea. Passat is CKD in Pekan with our unimpressive assembly quality.
6. Optima has higher resale value. In 3 years expect the Optima to maintain 60% of its value while the Passat will only be worth 40%.

So you want to top up a bit more for a Volvo? That's a very expensive car to maintain.

Why everybody must compare with Ioniq HEV+ features? How many cars in our market have those features?

Let's say right now, everything on the Optima GT remains the same, CBU with RM 180k pricing. However, the car is now known as Toyota Camry GT.

Would you buy? 

Yes, I agree it could be lower. Main items were batteries, timing belts, A/C condenser (2x), engine mountings (2 sets) , lower arms, upper arms, ball joints, brake pads, absorbers, water hoses and radiator repair. I probably got cheated for the first set of engine mountings which lasted less than a year. The lower and upper arm and ball joints seem to give recurring problems so maybe I was given sub-standard parts as well. (There are also China made parts for Korean cars). This is the problem of using too many different mechanics just for convenience sake. In retrospect I should have found a good mechanic and stuck to him.

those who can afford this car will probably got no time to post nonsense in lowyat forums. all here tok kok and wayang only.

quite a few have been registered on the road and i've been told the first owner in malaysia is a lady in her mid 40s.

... but this is not enough to change the old school perception from the public.

Prof Jay is getting harder to babysit lately, agree with him also Salah .disagree give him explaination he will deem u as salesman for the other party (which ever he says no good). Then he will use all his "fact" to win u based on his experience

Wah....playing the trump card that he kept to "laugh us off"...VIS...fuhyo :
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http://www.gtfours.co.uk/what/tvis/tvis.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-VIS
This obsolete liao lar.....where got any modern diagram will show this? None of the modern Toyota engines apply this anymore...

My car DCT won't allow me to up shift at 1400rpm in 4th gear even in manual mode. There is mechanism to prevent engine stall. 1 -> 2, maybe. I doubt 2 -> 3 is allowed, can try it out when free. However must press the gas paddle so lightly else gear 2 reach red line too fast.

Probably whichever car that have higher gear 2 or maybe gear 3 top speed will win. Both drivers struggle to up shift at 1400rpm, lol. This plug from sky hypothetical experiment not practical at all.

Those Korean companies are dumbest to brain drain the best people to Japanese rivals.

i trying my best to understand ....

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i think it is left OPEN most likely... so that cylinder 2 and 4 can have lower pressure... OH wait ... where is cylinder 4 ...   

Unker, when did Ford ever tried using a 1.0L engine on the Mondeo? I don't have in-depth knowledge of cars or Ford but even I know that it is ridiculous for Ford to put a 1.0L engine on the Mondeo, turbo or not.