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post Jun 3 2005, 02:31 AM, updated 19y ago

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Any of you all into classical music?
This category of music seems to have fadded away from the modern guitar society..
Most of them are into bass, electric, acoustics..

I think classical musicians are a bunch of rare breed. laugh.gif
I must say it's really hard to master them...Accurate fingering is a must.

Songs like:
Romance De' Amour (popular)
Cavatina/Deer Hunter
Moonlight Sonata
Gypsy Rondo

Gears?
Me? I personally have a Yamaha C-310 bought over 6 years ago..it was my first budget guitar, and now? it sound nicer then those handmade about the price of rm1k laugh.gif thumbup.gif

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i can't play classical songs at all... the fingerings too complex. but i LOVE watching people play classical guitar! very soothing... malays call it syahdu.
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well, im actually at grade 6 (yamaha grade), got a RM2k classical guitar with cedar top and forgot what was the bottom, mahogany fret......planning to sell it actually, dont really ahve time to play it anymore.l. my counbro is at grade 4/3 thougb biggrin.gif
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Hi tumpang thread,

I also like classical or more plucking oriented playing
I'm novice level , din take lessons/ dunno how to read notes , only tabs
Just interested to know whether anyone uses any guitar tablature software to help u learn better

currently using guitar pro 4 , mainly because u can find downloadable songs in that format online

heard of others like tabledit, bucket o tab etc..

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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Jun 3 2005, 10:45 AM)
well, im actually at grade 6 (yamaha grade), got a RM2k classical guitar with cedar top and forgot what was the bottom, mahogany fret......planning to sell it actually, dont really ahve time to play it anymore.l. my counbro is at grade 4/3 thougb biggrin.gif
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Waaa..u actually take Lessons?! sweat.gif thumbup.gif
And thats a damn blardy good guitar...how many years has it been?
The only lesson i take was 3 months...just to get me familirized with the fingering as I was a ex-piano grad tongue.gif
But after playing guitar, when revert back to piano, the touch is no more there.. sad.gif
Fingers harden d..

QUOTE(rotanidrow @ Jun 3 2005, 11:03 AM)
Hi tumpang thread,
I also like classical or more plucking oriented playing
I'm novice level , din take lessons/ dunno how to read notes , only tabs
Just interested to know whether anyone uses any guitar tablature software to help u learn better
currently using guitar pro 4 , mainly because u can find downloadable songs in that format online
heard of others like tabledit, bucket o tab etc..
thx
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Well, If u like classical songs, I would advise you to learn how to Read the notes. Coz classical songs very rarely they have it on Tab's...i think...

Not all songs You can get hold of the tab.. some u might need to buy the books..

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QUOTE(m|ng @ Jun 3 2005, 12:15 AM)
Waaa..u actually take Lessons?!  sweat.gif  thumbup.gif
And thats a damn blardy good guitar...how many years has it been?
The only lesson i take was 3 months...just to get me familirized with the fingering as I was a ex-piano grad tongue.gif
But after playing guitar, when revert back to piano, the touch is no more there.. sad.gif
Fingers harden d..
Well, If u like classical songs, I would advise you to learn how to Read the notes. Coz classical songs very rarely they have it on Tab's...i think...

Not all songs You can get hold of the tab.. some u might need to buy the books..
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i took lessons for 2 years, they aint cheap really. my teacher was one of the yamaha teachers and we always go to competition here and there...but obviously i didnt join any tongue.gif just watch and eat haha.

guitar i think is about 5 years old, pretty seasoned already smile.gif
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Waaa..good good... smile.gif
If ure planning to sell ur guitar..sell me lar..cheap cheap laugh.gif

Can post a pic of it? smile.gif

My Goal: To use my cheap Yamaha c310 until the 'syelek' coating peels laugh.gif

Anymore classical musicians out there?

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i m still using my dam old classical guitar (yamaha c -30 ) dunnoe anyone heard it b4 or not ...lol..
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Not exactly a classical musician here, but I started off guitar by playing on acoustic and classical. My dad had a classical (still has it) but ever since I changed one of the strings, I couldn't get it back in-tune. Pretty sad, cause I enjoy playing classical stuff.

I have some classical tabs here, some classical & some modern, anybody wants them?? wink.gif (Will add them to the scanlist, pretty busy these days)

It's great to see some talented classical guitarists here. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(m|ng @ Jun 4 2005, 11:04 AM)
Waaa..good good... smile.gif
If ure planning to sell ur guitar..sell me lar..cheap cheap  laugh.gif

Can post a pic of it?  smile.gif

My Goal: To use my cheap Yamaha c310 until the 'syelek' coating peels  laugh.gif

Anymore classical musicians out there?
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classical guitar never drop price 1 ler, unless the condition is horrible and is one of the chapalang guitar. i dun have any pictures now, remember where am i? and where my guitar is located? biggrin.gif
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Hmm..wat songs ya have?
I have very limited songs...most of em from tabs.
Cant get it back in tune? Wierd?
The tuning pegs wrecked? or is the string not good?
Shudnt be un-tunable wink.gif

@ccy1898:
Old guitars are good...The sound is really really sweet... smile.gif
My C310 sounds on par with my frens Handmade.
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QUOTE(m|ng @ Jun 4 2005, 10:26 PM)
Hmm..wat songs ya have?
I have very limited songs...most of em from tabs.
Cant get it back in tune? Wierd?
The tuning pegs wrecked? or is the string not good?
Shudnt be un-tunable  wink.gif
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The problem is, I can't even turn the pegs!! It happened sometime ago & I didn't bother much about it as I wasn't interested in playing classical.
I think I'm gonna fix it soon, any advice??

Hmmm I have Romande D Armour (Pt1 & 2), one of Bach's Cello Suite & some classical rendition of modern hits. (Comes with the magazineslar lol)

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Ohh..ur pegs are gone..

Remove all your strings, go to the shop and buy 1 pair of tuning pegs... Then if u need change string.. Think it wl be about less than rm20 to fix those.

Romance i oso got..quite hard to master...cant be perfect yet.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(m|ng @ Jun 4 2005, 11:26 AM)
Hmm..wat songs ya have?
I have very limited songs...most of em from tabs.
Cant get it back in tune? Wierd?
The tuning pegs wrecked? or is the string not good?
Shudnt be un-tunable  wink.gif

@ccy1898:
Old guitars are good...The sound is really really sweet... smile.gif
My C310 sounds on par with my frens Handmade.
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my collection of songs can almost last u a life time to master all of them biggrin.gif a few boxes of them......they are all free from my sensei though tongue.gif i belive my cousin bro has much more than me.
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Fuah...so much ar?! laugh.gif

Alamak,
If u love jazz/blue guitar, try goin to
Tommy Emmanuel

Take a peek at his song samples... Damn keng notworthy.gif
Its a 1 man show that sounds like 2 guitars notworthy.gif
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Classical music is very damn hard to play! sweat.gif
I wish i could.
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QUOTE(rotanidrow @ Jun 3 2005, 11:03 AM)
Hi tumpang thread,

I also like classical or more plucking oriented playing
I'm novice level , din take lessons/ dunno how to read notes , only tabs
Just interested to know whether anyone uses any guitar tablature software to help u learn better

currently using guitar pro 4 , mainly because u can find downloadable songs in that format online

heard of others like tabledit, bucket o tab etc..

thx
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Yes bro. Like u...i don't read notes and don't take formal lessons. I'm playin an acoustic guitar but often try out classical and plucking stuffs on my acoustic. I've tried guitar pro 4 too but i would recommend PowerTab. (www.powertabs.net) Its more convenient IMO, and there are superb tabs that u would love to death.
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QUOTE(m|ng @ Jun 4 2005, 01:20 PM)
Fuah...so much ar?!  laugh.gif

Alamak,
If u love jazz/blue guitar, try goin to
Tommy Emmanuel

Take a peek at his song samples... Damn keng  notworthy.gif
Its a 1 man show that sounds like 2 guitars  notworthy.gif
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unfortunately i dont like playing music, jazz and blue is another genre, although they use the same kind of guitar, there is another playing style. playing something that sounds like2 guitar, appegio? one of the not-so-easy skill to master....but tremolo is still the hardest for me biggrin.gif

i play classical only ler, a small variation of pop song, and sometimes borrow my friend's electric guitar to play around...but these are all history already tongue.gif

QUOTE(axe @ Jun 4 2005, 04:42 PM)
Classical music is very damn hard to play! sweat.gif
I wish i could.
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it's not that straight forward, there are alot of tricks that u can only learn if u have someone else lecturing you. it takes time for your fingers to build up the strength and tone control.
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QUOTE(m|ng @ Jun 4 2005, 11:35 PM)
Ohh..ur pegs are gone..

Remove all your strings, go to the shop and buy 1 pair of tuning pegs... Then if u need change string.. Think it wl be about less than rm20 to fix those.
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Yeah, I think I'ill do that soon. Might even mount a piezo pickup into it for recording. wink.gif How much do these pickups cost normally?

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QUOTE(rotanidrow @ Jun 3 2005, 11:03 AM)
Hi tumpang thread,

I also like classical or more plucking oriented playing
I'm novice level , din take lessons/ dunno how to read notes , only tabs
Just interested to know whether anyone uses any guitar tablature software to help u learn better

currently using guitar pro 4 , mainly because u can find downloadable songs in that format online

heard of others like tabledit, bucket o tab etc..

thx
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I learn Eric Clapton's classical gas through Guitar Pro 4 hehe.

The only 2 classical songs i know how to play are Rmance de Amor (duh who doesnt knwo how to play this?) and Eric's Classical Gas.. I still prefer electrical though tongue.gif
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ahah..

i also learned Eric Claptons Classical Gas thru guitar pro 4. wink.gif
I started tabbing Mike Rayburns - Canon in D but stopped half way cos didnt have the time.. i even wrote the tab out in my sisters music book.. haha smile.gif

anyways, pls share some classical guitar titles here. i love playing classical guitar but don know which songs to play.. cos too many. smile.gif

btw, just wanted to say this.. chicken picking is hard! haha smile.gif tried playing one of the tabs in the demo folder of GP but just cant get it right smile.gif


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Aiyo..this thread tarak hangat lar... tongue.gif

BTW, can u all get the hang of using a pick and plucking the strings?
I find it superbly hard eh.. tongue.gif
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i learnt classical all the way by myself.. i just finished with 'Leyenda' ..
hard work n minat is the key..
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woot a clasically kaki here...cant play rock or anyting hard...find using pick damn difficult...my fingers react faster...haha...

fav song fur elise...others are ok la...
enjoy baroque as well...actually i find it a wonder...how can ppl at tat time make such strong melodical fundamentals tat are still used till today...

i hate moonlight sanota tho...personally find it boring cant seem to get the meaning of the song till today

PS: 1 thing about classical music....its concerntrate alot on fingering and sound amplification technique....even alot of teachers cannnot maintain it

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I love classical than strumming alot . I learned from my sensei about 7month . I just finish mariage d'amour . Nice Song .
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I found classical guitar pretty fun, especially Spanish/Flamenco style playing. The skills I learned really helped my transition to electric.

I've been wondering...how many electric guitar players start out on a classical?
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Tommy Emmanuel is fairly complex and he has mastered the Finger picking technic, i dare say that he is the leetest leet finger picker. I dont think Tommy emmanuel plays a specific genre as he is very versatile

i dotn have a classical guitar to play classical pieces sad.gif

have to use my ovation acoustic guitar which sounds too sharp/pitchy lol, its a rhythm guitar anyways biggrin.gif
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i'm now grade 8(yamaha)learning abt 10months edi,the more i learn the more interesting it is...........i've finish eric clapton's tears in heaven abt a month ago.....damn nice
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i'm gonna buy a handmade spanish guitar soon.......any recommendations???i've tried alhambra's guitar at mahogany.....sounds fantastic
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Sorry for being ignorant ..

Would like to know those normal guitars out there, how many different types are there? Classical, Acoustic .. what else? I'm looking forward to get one next week (budget RM100 max or below). Do they come with free bag?

I have no guitar basic, so I'm a pure beginner. Which type guitar do you recommend? rolleyes.gif

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I don't think you can get a decent guitar for below 100 bucks.... (unless you get a Kapok.... which is totally crap and not even WORTH the 100 bucks).

To get a decent acoustic/classical guitar... you would have to spend AT LEAST 700 bucks. Yes.... even for beginners. In fact, it's even more important to get a decent guitar if you're a beginner.

There are a few different type of Classical/Acoustic variations (Semi electric, double necks, baritones), but they are just variations on the Classical/Acoustic guitars.

A Classic guitar has a wider fretboard (ie: the Looooooong part of the guitar) and is best used with Nylon strings (although alot of people have different opionions on this). Usually students will start with this and also people who play classical pieces.... like Bach or Beethoven.

An Acoustic guitar has a smaller fret, but with a much "richer" tone. This is what player usually play when they want to play regular guitar songs. They use metal strings ONLY though so be warned.

Nylon strings are supposedly "easier" on the fingers, but doesn't give fantastic tonal value, wherelse on the flip side... metal strings give that "ring" to the sound.

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Dec 30 2005, 12:35 AM)

Nylon strings are supposedly "easier" on the fingers, but doesn't give fantastic tonal value, wherelse on the flip side... metal strings give that "ring" to the sound.

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hmm.....in my opinion,classical guitar's sound is more fantastic than acoustic guitar,if u learn the technic to control the tones of a classical guitar......u'll be suprise how wonderful it is......yo bro,no offense.....stay cool thumbup.gif
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to zeist:
if u wanna get a acoustic guitar......i can get u one brand new guitar.....it's quite cheap anf juz excellent for beginners.....
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hehe.....add summore.....it comes with a free padded guitar bag...
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No offense taken (PS.... please keep it in one post....Edit your reply if needed).

I'm actually going to take up classical guitar playing next year..... sitting for the exams and all that..... Maybe Yamaha.... dunno.... have to scout around.

And like I said.... Different People have different opinions on classical/acoustic guitars. But to me, I feel you can really rip and shred on a classical easier then an acoustic... but then that depends on the guitar itself.

And if you think I'm only refering to the expensive ones..... check this out....
Zakk Wylde uses a Yamaha Student Model Classical guitar ALOT.... He claims that the guitar feels like a Les Paul and does his fast runs on that.

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cool......classical does helps alot on fingering technics......
btw.....i wanted to get new guitar...know of any places selling cheap but branded guitars?
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I've been playing the classical guitar for almost five years, and I've taken the ABRSM Grade 5 Practical also.

I've stopped going to the classes when I reached Grade 7, cause the fees are extremely expensive. I go and learn by myself after that.

Yes - I have an Alhambra 1-PMATE bought back in late '01. I want to get a Yamaha SLG100N, but I haven't tried or seen yet. Anyone tried this Yamaha Silent Nylon guitar before? biggrin.gif

And I've tried lotsa pieces by these composers already - Bach, Vivaldi, Fernando Sor, Carulli, and stuff like that.

I love Renaissance music but I have only a few ones in my hand. And also the Baroque music, especially Bach - his Lute Suites are very interesting masterpieces composed for the lute. Fernando's music is mostly about exercise and lessons, but frequently playing his pieces will improve your playing technique. And Romantic music - sorry - I'm not really good at it - I must need more practise, since I have a habit of playing Renaissance and Baroque and Classical pieces.

The best book for learners of the Classical guitar - try checking Frederick Noad's 100 Graded Classical Studies and his anthologies of Guitar series. Also, if you can, try getting the Fernando Sor's complete exercise book. Or try Christopher Parkening's guidebooks (I haven't tried ANY Parkening's book - but they are nice to read.) biggrin.gif

And modern music - Mason Williams' Classical gas is also an interesting piece. Give it a try. biggrin.gif thumbup.gif

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Hopefully my metal playing won't interfer and improve my classical playing when I start taking lessons next year
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hmm.....no one tell me where to get cheap guitar.....*sad*
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QUOTE(mnjh @ Oct 26 2005, 10:52 AM)
Tommy Emmanuel is fairly complex and he has mastered the Finger picking technic, i dare say that he is the leetest leet finger picker. I dont think Tommy emmanuel plays a specific genre as he is very versatile

i dotn have a classical guitar to play classical pieces sad.gif

have to use my ovation acoustic guitar which sounds too sharp/pitchy lol,  its a rhythm guitar anyways biggrin.gif
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Waa...I tot i was the only one who heard abt Tommy, tongue.gif
I manganed to play a few of his songs...it really is hard sweat.gif

Anyone got da tabs on classical peices like Fur Elise and the likes? I only know Romance' De' Amour laugh.gif laugh.gif

Had a whole book on it last time..but dunno where did it go..

Personally, BOth Guitars have thier own good sound. Classical is only for classical songs and acoustic is only for acoustic songs..cant play vice versa..thats what i feel biggrin.gif

And also, Classical Doesn't have so much Fret as an acoustic...i think a max of 18-20? So artificial harmonics on the 21st fret is not possible wit a classical sad.gif
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hmm.....i don't haf fur elise tabs but i got da notes for it.....and alot other songs like right here waiting,can't help falling in love,tears in heaven.....etc....etc
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reevex mind telling me wats the grading like in yamaha?grade 8 in 10 months???i took ABRSM but i stop at grade3...dont thnk there are much good honest teachers around...hard to find a good teacher...most just wanna brush to take exams n raise ur fees...
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QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ Dec 30 2005, 08:58 AM)
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if u wanna get a acoustic guitar......i can get u one brand new guitar.....it's quite cheap anf juz excellent for beginners.....
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Want to ask...... When you take guitar exams.. do you start at grade 1 and work your way up, or is it the other way round?
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to tytons:yamaha grades r u from grade 10-6(students grade)=ABRSM grade 8 i think......actually yamaha they plan every grade haf to take at least half a year...my instructor says if can play edi means can go on edi...no point wasting time....


to zeist:the guitar is made in china if not mistaken...with pickup is abt rm350...with padded casing.....quite a good deal....if interested can sms me 016-6558466,i can bring u to c da guitars...

to blacktrix:grade 1 is the highest grade in yamaha....almost equivilant to advanced diploma...i start from grade 10...now is 8...so is the other way round.... biggrin.gif
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blacktrix..i took grade 3 straight..as i had piano background tat time...tho i forgotten alot but still i could read notes..so i took grade 3 straiht..was planning to take grade5 next but sucker mahagony didnt allow..want me to take grade4..wasting my money...theory wise i plan to take grade5 straight..cos u need a grade 5 theory to proceed to grade6 practical...likewise in piano...ive not taken any theory exams b4 but ive done many questions...early grades are still easy to self study..just gotto get urself agood text book.

this is if ur planning not to take yamaha..yes u can skip grades n take higher level grades...

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Maybe I have to start from the beginning because I still can't read notes. I mean, I understand them, and the positions and all that.... but can't read and play on the fly.
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hmm.....y no on talk abt the guitar itself??tot i can get some opinion getting a classical guitar...
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Maybe I have to start from the beginning because I still can't read notes. I mean, I understand them, and the positions and all that.... but can't read and play on the fly.
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actually tat takes practise...havent read notes since i started reading tabs..now my side reading sucks...actually if ur teacher allows u..u can do some crash course like i did..i started with the begining..learning the guitar parts n etc..then fingering..in 2 months i went to grade 2...then in about 2 months more i started playing grade 3 stuff then took the exams...then later...played grade 4 stuff...n decided to take grade 5..save money...

@ReeveX i bought my spanish guitar at arond 1k "Frudencio Laez" its handmade spanish..pretty cheap considering the price...sound wise...it was damn good..somehow i think my ears got immune to it.,it sounds normal now...but the 2k n above series were freakin nice...the necks are think n nice to grip as well ...cos i got small hands...haha...

i bought it in the techniques(i think its spelled this way) in midvalley....i doubt they hav this brand anymore tho.
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Frudencio Laez???i tot is Prudencio Saez..............i heard the brand Prudencio from my instructor but i dunno where i can haf a look at the guitars od this brand.........hmm....i juz went to midvalley last week...there's is no such shop there....there's only Guitar Collection n Rhapsody Music there...
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hmmm,,, never exactly tried classical guitaring ever in my life. My roommate plays it fr almost 10 years nw, he's quite good, i'm quite mesmerized by the way he plays it. Looks hard tho, i shall stick with my bass, hehe. The tough part about classical guitaring fr me is the fact that u need to pluck with all three fingers on individual strings and u need to bass on the exact intervals. Plus, even though some of the scores are easy to understand, but playing them out needs lotsa practice, unlike rhythm guitars where jz chords alone can let u play the whole song without fail.
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Frudencio Laez???i tot is Prudencio Saez..............i heard the brand Prudencio from my instructor but i dunno where i can haf a look at the guitars od this brand.........hmm....i juz went to midvalley last week...there's is no such shop there....there's only Guitar Collection n Rhapsody Music there...
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u may be right bout the name u know.. cos i cant read the damn cursif writing on my guitar...i got it from rhapsody in midvalley...was introduced by my instructor as well...nice guitar..nice neck...love the frets...looks like mahagony but im not too sure wat wood is it..cos its not as dark as mahagony..

foogie...the easiest thing is using ur fingers man...i cant play with a damn pick...haha...my speed is alot faster with my fingers...common u were born with ur fingers not picks...ofcourse u have better control over them...er...actually..maybe im just weird...but i suck with a pick..there was a long period of time where i would only strum my electric guitar with a pic..n pluck with my fingers..i use my nails btw...so it doesnt sound so blunt...but i had to apply nail polish.hha..string kept chipping my nails off.

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het tytons.......where exactly u get ur guitar...still remember?
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midvalley rhapsody la...i mention 2-3 times edi...

the 1 beside the IT centre..
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hey anyone can get any guitars from classical singapore?
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Wat guitars do ya'll normally look for?
As in wood on the fretboard, body, etc?

I personally like Gibson's guitar... for the looks biggrin.gif

Played my frens Taylor...very good...compared to mine tongue.gif
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hmm....spanish guitar would be da best....taylor would be extremely expensive....
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taylors got classicals meh?

i was thinking of selling my classical since i dun play it much..but kinda attached to it la..haha..alot of memories..n yea got 1 scratch when the string snap also.doubt ppl would wan it at a high price
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QUOTE(m|ng @ Jan 7 2006, 10:50 PM)
Wat guitars do ya'll normally look for?
As in wood on the fretboard, body, etc?

I personally like Gibson's guitar... for the looks  biggrin.gif

Played my frens Taylor...very good...compared to mine  tongue.gif
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P.S. anyone of u heard of Carl Clark guitars or smth liddat?
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hey guys..........i wanted to buy "admira artista",can anyone able to get any good offers??
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How come no ones talk about Manuel Rodriguez ?

When buying a classical guitar, buy guitar made from Rosewood. The more rosewood the better (price also increases). Bridge damage quite fast for low quality wood (high tension on the strings, bridge will break like biscuit when old), for rosewood it is solid hard and can last for years.

The sound of the guitar turns sweeter when it ages, if its made of good wood, like rosewood (body).

I think this is all I can remember.

Edit: this link is original site http://www.guitars-m-r-sons.com/

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Do you think i shud cnage this thread's name to "Classical and Acoustic anyone"?
Just to broaden up the interest. Coz acoustic oso has fingerpicking technique.

Or shud I just stick with the current one?
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anyone got contacts to buy classical guitars......ive been looking all over the places.........
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hm... if u all got to choose between Yamaha C45 and J&D C26 which would u prefer???? i tested both and both sound ok... (i am a noob in quitar BTW)


http://www.rockshop.co.nz/04/shop/product-....php?code=JDC26
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if u interested in yamaha guitars...i recomment u to get a better one since yamaha guitar is very cheap......u can buy model like cg101ms,cg131,cg151,cg171 all are consider good guitars.....if u wanna buy yamaha guitar can look 4 me i got contacts to get
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QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ Jan 17 2006, 06:05 PM)
if u interested in yamaha guitars...i recomment u to get a better one since yamaha guitar is very cheap......u can buy model like cg101ms,cg131,cg151,cg171 all are consider good guitars.....if u wanna buy yamaha guitar can look 4 me i got contacts to get
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my budget is only rm400 max... i can only afford c45,c40,c70 and J&D's C26... T^T

which one will u choose?
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Im using a JD. But its Acoustic. For a rm380 guitar..its not bad at all.

For my Classical, Im using Yamaha's c310.. its cheap, been using for nearly 7 years..very good. SOund much better than when you first bought it biggrin.gif

Try to get Korean made guitar..better quality..those from china just wudnt cut it.
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Since some folks talk about acoustic guitars here, thread has been renamed.

Have fun guys biggrin.gif

-Thread Title Renamed-


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QUOTE(newbie2 @ Jan 18 2006, 12:04 AM)
wad is the model u using now??? oh ya. if u can choose, which one u prefer? ur J&D's or yamaha c310? thx. i cant google much abt j&d's guitar. seems like its not very popular.
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Yeap. JD is not very popular, but they do make good guitars. Maybe u go around KL (if youre from there) you can find a few, Saw a guitar shop "MAHOGANY" In SS2..seems like a Huge shop..but i didnt go in when i was there. The 1 Inside midvalley sucked..

PS: you can try looking for J.D models here, http://www.marvellguitars.com/
Mine is the RHEME series..BUt gloss finish instead of Satin.

If youre from penang, I got a few places that you can go get smile.gif

Yeap, my yamaha classical is C-310. Im not sure If they make it anymore tho.. Its a really old model.

EDIT: Actually there isnt any 'favorites'..as i only have 2 guitars.. when i play classical songs, i use my yamaha, and for jazz/blues/strum, i use the acoustic. smile.gif Coz you cant use acoustic to play classical songs..it'll sound wierd

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hey newbie2,if u really got heart to learn classical guitar i think u should get a good guitar....for yamaha guitars is cheap....for example....cg101ms,solid top,thin neck,very comfortable guitars for beginners....n....is not expensive,i can get it abt rm750
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but at that price...u can get a spanish guitar...y settle of crappy yamaha?i honestly dun like yamaha classical guitar...too pricy....not worth the sound as well...not takin wood n necks material into consideration btw...

only thing is ppl keep buying these fancy brands..no 1 is really willing to take in classical guitars...cos its expensive...n they order in really small bulks..like 3-5 pieces...normally end up sellin 2 only.
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come on....spanish guitar at da price of rm750 oso no good quality wan....i tried one spanish guitar abt rm1800,but da sound lagi worst than yamaha rm1300 guitar......
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But must also depend lor,
If ure comparing a new spanish guitar wit a seasoned yamaha..then of coz yamaha got the upper hand.

My 7 year old cheap yamaha sounds as good as a below 1k handcrafted guitar now smile.gif
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hmm......i'm comparing two new guitars.....
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spanish guitars doesn't mean its better.....it is depends on da craftmanship......
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hmm......i'm comparing two new guitars.....
spanish guitars doesn't mean its better.....it is depends on da craftmanship......
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Right..
Erm..actually yes, It also depends on the Design of the "brace" at the back of the guitars. It effects sound quality.

But to me, It doesnt matter if its handmade or italian made or watever, As long as I like the sound, then its done biggrin.gif

Coz sound is very subjective.. Not everybody might like the sound of my guitar, and vice versa.

So, Just head on down to the shop, and test it, If u are new and dont know how, grab a fren along wit u to test.. then listen see if u like it. Coz those shop ppl might play sone really impressive licks or chords that can make a cheap guitar sound good.

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yea.....most important the guitar suites u da best.....if not 10k guitar oso no use....
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anyone got contacts to buy classical guitars......ive been looking all over the places.........
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Ironwood, ss14 subang jaya, opposite MPSJ hall. I think they are still there, haven't visit them for sometime, they should have few shops by now, the 2nd should be in Sri Hartamas. If things haven't change since 2001(or 2000?), Mr Chea Pete (pronounce as P T) should still be the owner/boss.

if you are looking for classical guitar lessons, he is one of the best guitar teacher i can tell you.
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Right..
Erm..actually yes, It also depends on the Design of the "brace" at the back of the guitars. It effects sound quality.

But to me, It doesnt matter if its handmade or italian made or watever, As long as I like the sound, then its done  biggrin.gif

Coz sound is very subjective.. Not everybody might like the sound of my guitar, and vice versa.

So, Just head on down to the shop, and test it, If u are new and dont know how, grab a fren along wit u to test.. then listen see if u like it. Coz those shop ppl might play sone really impressive licks or chords that can make a cheap guitar sound good.
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yea..the brace thingy is true..and depends on the brands as well..im not too familiar with the brands but there are some brands tat are really crap...but sells good cos its cheap.

thanks PSY84 for the name of the teacher..will keep his name into mind....alot chaplang teachers out there lately..teachin electric guitar n stuff..iron wood has 1...teaching electric..i know the dude gf's...hes not tat good la....compare to some other teachers i know...no idea how he got the job as well....wats the req to be a teacher nowadays?dun need cert anymore?
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hi...
i have bought a Kapok guitar for rm83 last week and a Daphon tuner for rm52. is it cheap?

i have problem tuning the 3g,2b,1e strings...the tuner show no response to my struming...how ar?
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RM83!!!!!! Wow..It just cost 30 in any "kedai runcit" near my area.....lol
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RM83!!!!!! Wow..It just cost 30 in any "kedai runcit" near my area.....lol
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Kapok really can buy with RM30 in any kedai runcit in ur area?
Are you serious man?
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Kapok really can buy with RM30 in any kedai runcit in ur area?
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Well, cant be that bad..
Its just that the strings wl be 1/2 an inch from the fretboard, the fingerboard will fade in 1 month, a very thick neck, and sounds like strumming a guitar made of milo tin tongue.gif

U bought a tuner thats almost as exp as ur guitar sweat.gif

BTW, anybody tried putting those "insulon" (sound prooving) stuff in ur guitar? to padd up the insides so it'll sound more 'compact" laugh.gif laugh.gif
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its okay how it sounds.. as long as right tune okay.. practise all ur basics with it.. when ur good enough.. save up for a better idea.. reward urself smile.gif

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Yes you are correct. For begineers you can try the cheaper Yamaha guitars. I think the nice ones are the CG series. Um... CG210 if I'm not mistaken.

I'm now thinking of buying the Yamaha GC series or the Silent Guitar but the most entry level Yamaha GC series must cost around RM4,000. *ouch*.

Look like I have to save up my money, squeeze my wallet again and purchase another better one. This time I'm buying the laminated version. And a much smaller guitar, since I'm a very small person. biggrin.gif


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If ya want a smaller guitar, why not consider a baby T (baby taylor) which is a small body, or if you prefer yamaha, an APX series. they are within the price range of 1-2k.

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Guys i'm not sure if my guitar is an Aria AW20 Brown Sunburst, or an Aria AW75 Brown Sunburst. Here's photos. Can you help me determine... its not with me now (my friend borrowed it). Which model is it?

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its actually really dark brown, almost black. What model isit?????


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Dear all,

I am new here. Great to read so much about guitars here. I played mainly classical guitar but recently swift to fingerpicking.
Well, I think I can help here regarding classical guitar. For Yamaha guitar, CG201s will be the best model in the CG series which is all-solid (Solid European Spruce & Solid Mahogany Back & sides) wchi I think is the best buy all-solid model classical guitar in the market. When you talk of Spanish made, there's a new brand imported by Guitar Collection named Madridgal are one of the worth buying spanish guitar. Alhambra are getting expensive nowaday which their lowest model start at RM1500.. THe most affordable classical guitar in the market with good quality, I will highly recommend Valencia Classical Guitar distribute by Woh Fatt. The Solid top model begin under RM500 compare to Yamaha C-80 with all-laminated wood which in the same price range. To get a good classical guitar or steel-string acoustic is the best that you get one with solid-top which not only better sounding but also in the long run, the sound improve. Of course, playability of a guitar will be one of the main factor to consider besider sound quality. For steel-string guitar, Woh Fatt recently focusing on Fina guitar which they have a few nice models including the Fina best model with Solid spruce top & maple back & sides (RM900) and another mid-range model come with Cedar top & ovangkol back & sides (RM680). Both the model sound better than any Yamaha FG700 series guitar that I played.
Taylor don't actually built classical guitar. The guitar that they're offering are actully a crossover nylon-strings guitar which specially degign for Crossover & Jazz guitar player.
Guys, hope the infos help.
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Great info. I really like to have silent guitars, but I don't know what will they sound like. And then they are really rare in my place.

Ah, Madrigal series guitar? Let me go check this out. I hope I can at least 'upgrade' my classical guitar to a better one.

Do they also sell Yamaha 10-string guitars? They are good for baroque music. biggrin.gif
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Yamaha do not have 10 strings classical in their list. You try to contact Perf de Castro who is a professional 10 string classical guitar player in Philippine who now in US. He can also help you to locate some 10 strings classical guitar buider in Philippine which the price will be lower than those made in Spain. Check www.perfdecastro.com
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Also,

Try to look for Taiwan made guitar..its better than those CHina made ones smile.gif
Built and sound is diffrent.. More solid.. But of coz..its a bit more exp too..

China made guitars may giv you value for money, they can throw in stuff like pick-ups, nice design, nice glossy finish...but the sound is not that good (if you're the particular kind of person)


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GUys, a question here.

If I were to get a guitar say within the range of 2k, Which should I go for?
-Solid-top with Pickup
-Full solid with no pick up.

I've been Ogling at a particular fendor model.. Its quite nice.. Knowing fender, thier design is quite unique. smile.gif
I've tried asking for Taylors/Matons but the price is way too high.. From like er...4k++ doh.gif

Those that I saw were from Yamaha..Are they still any good? As in the higher priced ones..


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I WOULD recommend an Epiphone Dove, but it's just a solid top without a pickup.

But right now I'm using an Ibanez PF, bought for about a thousand bucks...... pretty happy with it.

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I've been Ogling at a particular fendor model.. Its quite nice.. Knowing fender, thier design is quite unique.  smile.gif
I've tried asking for Taylors/Matons but the price is way too high.. From like er...4k++ doh.gif

Those that I saw were from Yamaha..Are they still any good? As in the higher priced ones..
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You can't go wrong with Fender Acoustic Guitars, they are superb in terms of thier looks. Sound wise .... they are between ok and outstanding. Fender is known to use very high quality woods, so the sound will be of some degree of quality. But they are not the gurus of Acoustic Guitars makers. Taylor is. Taylor is like the Ferrari of Acoustic Guitars. laugh.gif

Yamaha is the same range with Fender. One thing about Yamaha is that, since they use the same R&D from the drumming department, so the wood selection will be very good too.
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around RM2k and value for money also can try the made in canada art & lutherie guitars, which are owned by godin.
and godin also famous for making relatively affordable quality electric guitars with parts from canada but assembled in US.

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tried takamine? they're good. Yamaha fg series oso imho are good yet affordable acoustic guitars. Well, dat's jz me, pure cheapskate, cashless to get things like Taylor, Fender, gibson watever. hehe. One guy told me dat sx acoustic guitars are among the most worthy to buy fr its supreme low price. do check dat out also. i dunno bout their acoustix la, but i knw their basses and electric guitars are..... superb..........
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I read alot of good things about Takamine. Except for the fact that it's the Go-To guitars for Good Charlotte. And I freakin' HATE Good whorelette.
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I've played a Takamine before and it sounded pretty decent unplugged and it was affordable. Plugged into an AER amp it sounded pretty good though since it was piezo, it sounded a bit 'plastic-like' so if you have a mic modeller like the Yamaha AG Stomp, it should sound pretty killer. smile.gif

As for Yamaha, I kinda like the APX range for the slim necks and bodies, though if you don't want to compromise on tone (And have the cash), the CPX range has awesome guitars that are made for stage and home use. smile.gif Can't go wrong with them, really. thumbup.gif

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I read alot of good things about Takamine. Except for the fact that it's the Go-To guitars for Good Charlotte. And I freakin' HATE Good whorelette.
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True. The lead singer IS Bonking Hilary Duff....... and there's no Pinch harmonics to scare off wee little Led_zep......

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True. The lead singer IS Bonking Hilary Duff.......
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There's still Lindsay Lohan. rolleyes.gif
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haha, arlo brothers, focus focus on the force of the acoustic/classical kapoks, not hillary duffs or linday lohans (haha, no offence! tongue.gif). imho after reading so much bout blacktrix, it's a wonder dat he is a hillary duff fan, dun u think so? hehe. yupz, my church uses a takamine, and even tho it's so old, some of the strings rusted, the fretboard a bit cracked, and the body paint faded, it's still so warm and ah, i dunno hw to describe acoustic sound, all u hav ta knw is, it's nice! especially when playing lounge style strings or jazz tunes. (considering the strings are pretty much almost dead or dead already). i dunno, u jz hav ta try it la. hehe.
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takamine are very good guitars. ive tried their high end ones(i cant remember which model but its over rm5k) and theyre very very impressive. personally i prefer a taylor acoustic over a takamine coz of the tone.
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It's all down to personal preference really. Like, I prefer to bonk Aria Giovanni, and Led_zep prefers to bonk 2$ hookers....

Try 'em out a few times, get used to the tone, the size, the weight...... A dreadnought is a big MoFo to play..... But I like the size because of the rich tone it produces. And don't think the more expensive acoustics are the best..... well.... yes they are.... but try considering some lower end models..... you'll be surprised that they can get great sounds.

See! Relevent AND an insult to Led_zep tongue.gif
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QUOTE(foogie @ May 7 2006, 09:20 PM)
imho after reading so much bout blacktrix, it's a wonder dat he is a hillary duff fan, dun u think so?
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It's all down to personal preference really. Like, I prefer to bonk Aria Giovanni, and Led_zep prefers to bonk 2$ hookers....
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Hey... some $2 hookers have better assets than Aria Giovanni. tongue.gif tongue.gif Seriously I don't know how John 5 puts up with that huge bazookas.

Oh, to make this post relevant... ermm... wait a minute, since when I could NOT spam? tongue.gif

What about Ovation guys? I'm not a fan of the bubbleback but some ppl actually dig it. thumbup.gif It may not sound good unplugged, but when coming out from a good amp, it's thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ May 6 2006, 11:21 PM)
You can't go wrong with Fender Acoustic Guitars, they are superb in terms of thier looks. Sound wise .... they are between ok and outstanding. Fender is known to use very high quality woods, so the sound will be of some degree of quality. But they are not the gurus of Acoustic Guitars makers. Taylor is. Taylor is like the Ferrari of Acoustic Guitars.  laugh.gif

Yamaha is the same range with Fender. One thing about Yamaha is that, since they use the same R&D from the drumming department, so the wood selection will be very good too.
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Yeap. I like thier outlook for sure thumbup.gif
I cant find the guitar on the internet.. I dont know why..
I dont know if its a solid top or waht.,. But I played it once or twice, It sounded quite good biggrin.gif COmes with fancy features like a built in guitar tuner tongue.gif
And its doesnt have a pesky pick guard! laugh.gif
ps: anyone has the site of Fender Asia-pacific or sumthing?

Another target is the Yamaha LJX6. I think its eiter a Full/solid or a Solid top.. Costs abt rm2.5k... So exp sweat.gif Think its comes with active and Passive pickup too biggrin.gif
site: http://www1.yamaha.com.sg/217.html
This 1 comes with those ugly ol' black colored pick guards wink.gif

I dont sturm that much..so im willing to forgo that option..unless its transparent design..then its acceptable

Yea..I think i've given up hope for taylor.. way too exp sweat.gif
I think a guitar abt 1.2k will satisfy me...i think... At least a solid top for my next choice..
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My first guitar was a Yamaha G-100 something classical guitar. Still have it but it desperately needs a good cleanup and adjustment including new strings. Regret that I didn't take proper care of it because it is quite seasoned now.

Just recently bought a Taylor 214-L3 Maranatha Worship Leader series 2nd hand from my friend. Sounds fantastic, well to me of course tongue.gif
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anyone play Usher Waltz (by Nikita Koshkin) before?
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Anyone here owns a Norman guitar B18? It's supposedly canadian hand made guitar with solid cedar top and 3 layer laminated cherry-mahogany-cherry side and back. Thinking of getting this guitar with the pick up version. The Guitar Shop is retailing it at RM1690. Should got discount for it qua. Any comments?
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my friend has one. wait til i meet up with him i'll test it out and let u know. not sure if its the same model.

what do u guys think of a baby taylor?
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my friend bought an sx es-30 not too long ago

mahogany back and sides, solid spruce top, mahogany neck....

dreadnought body [not a full size tho me thinks]

sounds really dark but rich

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really good for rm550

if i ever get an acoustic, i'll get something bright sounding... so i and my friend can switch guitars when we feel like it tongue.gif


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anyone play Usher Waltz (by Nikita Koshkin) before?
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Yeap I own a Norman B-18. Bought it from guitar shop last year for RM990. The tone is moderately warm, and is suitable for songs for slow songs. It's a real lady killer when Wonderful Tonight is played on it... thumbup.gif
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Yeap I own a Norman B-18. Bought it from guitar shop last year for RM990. The tone is moderately warm, and is suitable for songs for slow songs. It's a real lady killer when Wonderful Tonight is played on it...  thumbup.gif
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you got the music sheet? drool.gif

BTW Norman B-18 is acoustics, Usher Waltz is a classical guitar piece, I wonder how you play with it.

Clips:
played by John Williams
played by Wang YaMeng

Anyway can you scan and send the music sheet to me? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(PSY84 @ May 21 2006, 12:51 AM)
you got the music sheet?  drool.gif

BTW Norman B-18 is acoustics, Usher Waltz is a classical guitar piece, I wonder how you play with it.

Clips:
played by John Williams
played by Wang YaMeng

Anyway can you scan and send the music sheet  to me? biggrin.gif
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I got it from ultimate guitar website. Type in Wonderful Tonight, and the guitar tabs will appear. Look at the acoustic version.. but need to know the song very well before playing, cos there's no melody, only the accompaniment for singing.

I tried other norman models as well, b20 and even the st68, but i still like my b18. Maybe becos I've been playing it for a year, and it's starting to season..

Anybody here takes guitar lessons from the guitar store in Cheras? Interested to get together to play a few songs together? Most of my guitar mates lives very far from KL ever since started working cry.gif
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QUOTE(bumz @ May 21 2006, 12:29 PM)
I tried other norman models as well, b20 and even the st68, but i still like my b18. Maybe becos I've been playing it for a year, and it's starting to season..

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Norman? I think i've seen those.. Satin finish one rite?
I didnt like the look on that..looks way too..er.. Old tongue.gif

How about Ibanez? For 1.2k you can get like a Solid top with pickup.
--> http://www.ibanez.co.jp/img/ac/l/EW20WNE_NT_12_01.jpg

top == Walnut
back & sides == Walnut
neck == Mahogany
pickup == Ibanez/B-Band® SquealRepeal Pickup
preamp == Ibanez SRT Preamp
fletboard == Rosewood

The sound is not bad.. Deep sound coz the body is big..and i LOOVE the outlook thumbup.gif
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I tried most of the ibanez at bentley. They are not that nice to me. The pickup on ibanez is not that good either. That's my humble opinion.
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I have just bought the Norman B18 with pickup at The Guitar Store Damansara branch. The store manager Steven was very helpful and sincere. It was a nice purchase experience at that store. Highly recommended to go there. I got the deal with guitar + case for RM1700. Plus some freebies that Steven is generous enough to offer me.

I tried the Norman B20 too. It really sounded solid. The tune is different from B18. Though I liked B20 more, but for the price difference, B18 is a much more better buy. Plus, the tune for B18 is nice too. Really satisifed with my purchase.
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Cool man! COngrats on ur buy.
Take sum pictures and show us lar tongue.gif
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Would post a few pics of it up once I got a camera. Haha. I'm loving the guitar more and more now.
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urs is with pickup and satin finish rite?

U mentioned abt the B20, how much wud it be?

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mine is B18 with pickup tobacco sunburst finish. B20 without pickup is 1590, with pickup is 2190. But I'm sure can bargain with the shop. If u purchase more stuff better offer and got free gifts.
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I've tried those guitars at the Guitar Store in Damansara Perdana. I do agree with you that the owner there is very friendly and help. They almost convinced me to get a Maton guitar which cost about RM3.5k but I settled for a 2nd hand Taylor guitar instead. Cheaper and the sustain is nicer.
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Guitar store was in DP was very friendly the manager Steven , an educative person was educating me on how to select guitars ..of course introducing to their own lines of gutar. Tried a few Normans and was close to buying B18 until i asked him opinion of the Garisson AG 200 .

He mentioned he liked it and he informs me that If i like it ...i shud get it ..and really I've got it . I like the B18 for its warm tones but somehow the neck feel is quite chunky and very hard to get used to it.

I played on Yamaha guitars and kinda like the neck feel which is borrowed from martin design. SO when I've got the Garisson AG 200 i immediately took a liking to it.

When I strummed the 1st time on a Garrison , I can feel the tonal vibration throughout the guitar and I knew the sustain and resonance of the guitar can beat the warm tones of the B18.

Got it at RM 760 without bag or case but from the quality ..it is very hard to match with any other models.

That's just my 2cents. Now if i can just change the saddle bridge and nuts to the Graptech TUSQ nuts and saddles..if would sing even better.


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I've tried those guitars at the Guitar Store in Damansara Perdana. I do agree with you that the owner there is very friendly and help. They almost convinced me to get a Maton guitar which cost about RM3.5k but I settled for a 2nd hand Taylor guitar instead. Cheaper and the sustain is nicer.
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They got second hand taylor there? How much did you get urs for and what model is it?

How is garrison guitar? I never tried, but it's made in USA rite? I thought the price of Garrison is usually over 3K. How could you get one so cheap? I agree that the neck of B18 is the weakest point of the guitar. The neck could be better with other choice of wood.
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QUOTE(lchee @ Jun 14 2006, 11:23 AM)
They got second hand taylor there?  How much did you get urs for and what model is it?

How is garrison guitar?  I never tried, but it's made in USA rite?  I thought the price of Garrison is usually over 3K.  How could you get one so cheap?  I agree that the neck of B18 is the weakest point of the guitar.  The neck could be better with other choice of wood.
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Actually it is canadian , the guitar i 've got is AG200 where the top bracing is done with glass fiber to make it stronger and resonate as one unit the rest are make traditionally wood. it is not laminated spruce..It is just spruce top braced stronger by glass fiber that the G series of garrisson boast of . It is made in china but the quality is as good as the candian made ones..
Very balanced tones...very clear but weight a bit heavy .
COns ; the back and sides are nato wood..not mahogany.

but sound wise very good.


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IC, a canadian brand but made in china guitar. But never underestimate china made guitar. I've tried a Farida made in china which sounds super solid. very well balanced sound. and of course, it's a full solid guitar (meaning solid top, side and back). But the price is well over 2k. Just for your information, B18 is only a solid cedar top, but laminated 3 layer cherry-mahogany-cherry side and back.
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Wow! B18 naik harga oledy? I bought mine last year for RM900 + RM200++ for the EPP case from guitar store cheras. It was a burgundy model.
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Nowadays China made models are quality ones as well. Do check them out and try not to judge them before u try it out. Farida was made by the same china makers that makes Tanglewood guitar popular in UK.

Tanglewood guitars are known for cheaper pricing but bear the sound and quality of more expensive martins and taylor guitar.
Farida higher end models around 1.5 K and above bear those trademarks.

I have personally tried it..very good for its pricing . The cons..very weird brand name.
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QUOTE(bumz @ Jun 15 2006, 12:18 PM)
Wow! B18 naik harga oledy? I bought mine last year for RM900 + RM200++ for the EPP case from guitar store cheras. It was a burgundy model.
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Not naik harga lah. Your B18 is acoustic, mine is electro-acoustic. It comes with pickup. So more expensive. Steven of guitar store damansara told me the pickup is FIshman Classic 4T. If buy off the shelf cost RM800, and wanna install on guitar another RM150 for labour. So he advised me to buy the B18 that comes with the pickup. Just add another RM600. I took up his advice. The pickup sounded really nice. I plugged it into my pc via the Audigy drive and the sound was clear, though not very loud due to the limitations of my PC speaker. If i upgrade my PC speakers, it would really sound almost similar to amp ady.

The case I bought is not the EPP case. Didn't like the look of it. I bought a farida black case. Those that seems more like ppl hide sniper gun inside one. haha.
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Nowadays China made models are quality ones as well. Do check them out and try not to judge them before u try it out. Farida was made by the same china makers that makes Tanglewood guitar popular in UK.

Tanglewood guitars are known for cheaper pricing but bear the sound and quality of more expensive martins and taylor guitar.
Farida higher end models around 1.5 K and above bear those trademarks.

I have personally tried it..very good for its pricing . The cons..very weird brand name.
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tanglewood? nvr heard of that. whats the price range like?
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Here's the link: TangleWood guitars.


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I don't think there's a dealer in Malaysia, that's why hard to come by.

Here's the link: TangleWood guitars.
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Whats up guys...Im new her!! just want to share some idea..ive read all of ur posting and i find it very intresting coz i myself is crazy abt acoustic guitar...i owned ibanez PF60 last time before i got my Epiphone EJ series that is 12 string guitar with sunburst color, i also owned one GRETSCH acoustic guitar (Which is very rare) natural spruce wood color..ths 2 guitar dnt have any pickup but ive bought Seymour Duncan SA1 pickup and it sounds very good but i hate it coz i have to attach and take it out evrytime i need to change guitar..I really need a acoustic guitar wif pickup with it, so it will be easy..Do you guys have any idea where i can get the FISHMAN pickup and the installation too??I thought of installing the pickup to my guitar..or anyone like to trade thier guitar wif me??I like Taylor guitar,their the best!!
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This is the late post of pictures of the guitar that I bought. Norman B18 acoustic tobacco sunburst finish with Fishman Classic 4T pickup.


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QUOTE(zebro @ Jul 17 2006, 04:27 PM)
Whats up guys...Im new her!! just want to share some idea..ive read all of ur posting and i find it very intresting coz i myself is crazy abt acoustic guitar...i owned ibanez PF60 last time before i got my Epiphone EJ series that is 12 string guitar with sunburst color, i also owned one GRETSCH acoustic guitar (Which is very rare) natural spruce wood color..ths 2 guitar dnt have any pickup but ive bought Seymour Duncan SA1 pickup and it sounds very good but i hate it coz i have to attach and take it out evrytime i need to change guitar..I really need a acoustic guitar wif pickup with it, so it will be easy..Do you guys have any idea where i can get the FISHMAN pickup and the installation too??I thought of installing the pickup to my guitar..or anyone like to trade thier guitar wif me??I like Taylor guitar,their the best!!
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I think Mahogany SS2 sells Fishmans and does installation for ya and no I don't think I'll trade my taylor for your guitar. smile.gif
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I think Mahogany SS2 sells Fishmans and does installation for ya and no I don't think I'll trade my taylor for your guitar. smile.gif
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What is the price range of taylors in malaysia? I've seen the price list but it is all in USD. Was thinking of migrating from my Norman to a Taylor. drool.gif
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What is the price range of taylors in malaysia? I've seen the price list but it is all in USD. Was thinking of migrating from my Norman to a Taylor.  drool.gif
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I think they're about 4k upwards. Baby Taylors are about 1k+. I got mine at a deal actually. I think the Retail price was 9k+ originally, was bought by a staff in Mahogany at cost, then some customer knocked and scratched a tiny section of the side while trying out the guitar.... he had to raise some funds quick for his wedding....and voila...I had a custom Taylor .... thumbup.gif

I agree to most posts a 2nd hand Taylor is better than some expensive Yamahas or etc...
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hi a newbie here...

i juz wan to knw tat...
does the shape of a guitar like dreathnought, jumbo etc.. affect anything??
like the sound....
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hi a newbie here...

i juz wan to knw tat...
does the shape of a guitar like dreathnought, jumbo etc.. affect anything??
like the sound....
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If I am not mistaken the bigger the body, the more bass and volume. So if you are gonna play without any amplification go for bigger bodies. If you are recording or playing in concerts you would be better off with a smaller body. Less resonance would result in less incidence of feedback and a clearer cutting sound. Your soundman will love you.



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yo thx fren...
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Anyone is playing unplugged performance for cafe here?

I saw a lot of band members here but a little really about unplugged.

I hope that there is someone here that can share the experience together.

Anyone who perform unplugged performance may join here. No matter wish-to-be, beginner, professional, uncle, didi, gor gor, jie jie... all come hahaha
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huh??? what makes you think i'm going to join competition leh? hahaha just wanna gather some unplugged guy here ...
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i love playing the acoustic
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acoustic guitar very cheap only ma if you don't mind to hurt ur finger la ...
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I love acoustics, man!
But sadly, I don't have one. Acoustic bass doesn't come cheap, even the crappy one cost at least 600-800. sad.gif
I plan to get an acoustic guitar and acoustic bass sooner or later. nod.gif
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wow , this interest me, i always want to be a unplug player. im playing classical here, is there anyway i can join? i try to post here since u say anyone can join smile.gif coz im not that pro yet.
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i mostly play my acoustics for jazz and blues. . .

i saw a cheap brandless bass before at the cash converters at taman megah. . . think it's no longer there though. . .

i don't sing so i usually play instrumentals. . . pieces and just numbers. . .
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if i could sing i would be playing alot more unplugged stuff. i play more instrumental stuff so its almost impossible to perform for an unplugged session.

(but then thats why im trying to master fingerstyle and hybrid styles acoustic songs)
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Singing and playing is tough for me too, but mastering it will make you a better performer, just look at Eric Clapton in his unplugged sessions, playing all those licks flawlessly and sing at the same time.
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Singing and playing is tough for me too, but mastering it will make you a better performer, just look at Eric Clapton in his unplugged sessions, playing all those licks flawlessly and sing at the same time.
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practice makes perfect =D but if you can play like doyle dykes then lyrics are just wasted time between solos =D
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anyone performing at local cafe here??

i'm performing at several cafe as what listed in my siggy ..

tomorrow night (thursday) i will be perform at seri kembangan's music cafe ... visit me if u free la hahaha
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Unplugged is nice. I especially like to play around with chord voicings. My current favourite are maj7s and 9s biggrin.gif

If you use your voicings well, there's no need for fancy soloing.

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QUOTE(Bassix @ Mar 21 2007, 11:18 PM)
Unplugged is nice. I especially like to play around with chord voicings. My current favourite are maj7s and 9s biggrin.gif

If you use your voicings well, there's no need for fancy soloing.
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Added on March 22, 2007, 12:18 ambtw zivkong, did you get my pm? it's not in my sent list so i don't know if it got through

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i've got ur pm n20 hahaha...

anyway, where you all from?
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i used to play for the loft , KL ..

one thing y'all music cafe should appreciate is you get to wear whatever you want , as long as its decent..

you should see how they peacock me blush.gif
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We do actually, in a way, have a thread for this:

LYN Classical and Acoustic Guitars, Kapok, Kayu, Wood everything here !

You might want to head over there and check it out. Few members already perform a live unplugged gig before.

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There. i merged the two pages together since they were both the same thing.
Good luck all you unplugged freaks!
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hey guys, can anyone recommend me good classical songs? im starting to learn classical guitar cuz my e guitar is at the stage that i can cope with extra one instrumental lessons

alongside, recommend me an affordable yet good classical guitar.good as in ok ..make sense pls..im not saying wanna buy good stuffs with cheap price.yamaha?or ?im playing my frens valecia borrowed from him for a few weeks.

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well you should be able to play romance de'amor. . . every classical guitarist definately must kno how to play that song. . . it's like the stairway to heaven for electric kinda thing xD. . . Cavatina is also nice =)

you can try out Manuel Rodriguez guitars. . . very nice guitars. . . they have beginner models also. . . Raimundo is also nice. . . it depends on what sound you want and your budget. . . get a budget then look around that budget. . .
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as starter, my budget is around 400.yamaha really has cheap classical guitars lol.n i prefer nylon strings...possible whole set

to mention my liking..i would want a beige or maple colour like surface..what wood is that?

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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Mar 28 2007, 01:15 PM)
well you should be able to play romance de'amor. . . every classical guitarist definately must kno how to play that song. . . it's like the stairway to heaven for electric kinda thing xD. . . Cavatina is also nice =)

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But i don't know how to play stairway to heaven blush.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

As a matter of fact, i only have the orchestra version done by london philharmonic. Pretty nice arrangements they did.
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QUOTE(blackangel @ Mar 28 2007, 08:31 PM)
as starter, my budget is around 400.yamaha really has cheap classical guitars lol.n i prefer nylon strings...possible whole set

to mention my liking..i would want a beige or maple colour like surface..what wood is that?
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400 you can get a C70. if you like maple maybe u can look around in lelong.com.my, some guys selling vietnamese guitar there with cheap price but how the quality i dont know. lots of ppl dont recomend it.
400 cant get much of choice, spain made guitars are $$$ . Yamaha classical sound projection is good if u play without pickup.


Added on April 11, 2007, 1:25 pmany wise guys can give me review on Yamaha CG 201S ? or recomendations ?


Added on April 28, 2007, 5:01 pmcan anyone give advise on this 2 classical guitar? manuel Rodriguez and yamaha 201S both cost around 2K . which is better. or what is the sound preference ?

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QUOTE(michly @ Apr 6 2007, 04:03 PM)



Added on April 11, 2007, 1:25 pmany wise guys can give me review on Yamaha CG 201S ? or recomendations ?


Added on April 28, 2007, 5:01 pmcan anyone give advise on this 2 classical guitar?  manuel Rodriguez and yamaha 201S  both cost around 2K . which is better. or what is the sound preference ?
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here to bring back some old topics....hehe...
for those two guitars....yup...i've tried them both b4....thou yamaha 201s is a full solid but somehow it just dont give a very spanish type classical tone....same as manuel rodriguez.....infact....2k for MR guitars are not worth it...

If u spending 2k on classical guitar...i would like to recommend other brands like alhambra....madrigal....or admira....anytime better than yamaha 201s or the 2k manuel rodriguez

If ur willing to spend more....go for Jose ramirez,Esteve....haha
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here to bring back some old topics....hehe...
for those two guitars....yup...i've tried them both b4....thou yamaha 201s is a full solid but somehow it just dont give  a very spanish type classical tone....same as manuel rodriguez.....infact....2k for MR guitars are not worth it...

If u spending 2k on classical guitar...i would like to recommend other brands like alhambra....madrigal....or admira....anytime better than yamaha 201s or the 2k manuel rodriguez

If ur willing to spend more....go for Jose ramirez,Esteve....haha
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Thanks finally someone answer me. yep the 201 doesnt give the spanish sound but why not worth for MR ? because of its built quality ? online lots of ppl comment about the built quality . Alhambra is $$$ man .. 2K i think i only can get the cheapest model. . how much is a Jose ramirez? if its really good.
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QUOTE(Bassix @ Mar 28 2007, 10:17 PM)
But i don't know how to play stairway to heaven blush.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

As a matter of fact, i only have the orchestra version done by london philharmonic. Pretty nice arrangements they did.
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you can get the tabs online or ask your teacher. . . he/she should know. . .

QUOTE(michly @ Apr 6 2007, 04:03 PM)
400 you can get a C70.  if you like maple maybe u can look around in lelong.com.my, some guys selling vietnamese guitar there with cheap price but how the quality i dont know. lots of ppl dont recomend it. 
400 cant get much of choice, spain made guitars are $$$ . Yamaha classical sound projection is good if u play without pickup.


Added on April 11, 2007, 1:25 pmany wise guys can give me review on Yamaha CG 201S ? or recomendations ?


Added on April 28, 2007, 5:01 pmcan anyone give advise on this 2 classical guitar?  manuel Rodriguez and yamaha 201S  both cost around 2K . which is better. or what is the sound preference ?
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the MR is better IMO. . . i always prefer classical guitars made in spain =)

QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ May 1 2007, 12:48 PM)
here to bring back some old topics....hehe...
for those two guitars....yup...i've tried them both b4....thou yamaha 201s is a full solid but somehow it just dont give  a very spanish type classical tone....same as manuel rodriguez.....infact....2k for MR guitars are not worth it...

If u spending 2k on classical guitar...i would like to recommend other brands like alhambra....madrigal....or admira....anytime better than yamaha 201s or the 2k manuel rodriguez

If ur willing to spend more....go for Jose ramirez,Esteve....haha
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true i agree but the MR ain't all that bad. . . who carries the Ramirez and esteve ere?


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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ May 1 2007, 09:27 PM)
true i agree but the MR ain't all that bad. . . who carries the Ramirez and esteve ere?
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Mahogany is carrying Ramirez and Esteve....
MR is made now more towards contemporary style of playing....somehow still lack of the "spanish" tone....


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Thanks finally someone answer me. yep the 201 doesnt give the spanish sound but why not worth for MR ? because of its built quality ? online lots of ppl comment about the built quality . Alhambra is $$$ man .. 2K i think i only can get the cheapest model. . how much is a Jose ramirez? if its really good.
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for you 2k budget....go for alhambra 1C....madrigal....or maybe cordoba....anytime better than manuel rodriguez....

ramirez is know for ferrari among classical guitar....so u can expect expect at least 4-5k for the lowest model...

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just a little inquiry, anyone here interested in buying a santa cruz dreadnought? i'm thinking of selling mine and getting something with a smaller body.
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QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ May 1 2007, 09:42 PM)
Mahogany is carrying Ramirez and Esteve....
MR is made now more towards contemporary style of playing....somehow still lack of the "spanish" tone....


Added on May 1, 2007, 9:48 pm

for you 2k budget....go for alhambra 1C....madrigal....or maybe cordoba....anytime better than manuel rodriguez....

ramirez is know for ferrari among classical guitar....so u can expect expect at least 4-5k for the lowest model...
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ic ic but if you going for the spanish tone might as well get a flamenco guitar?

and has anyone tried bringing in a guitar from spain? i knew a teacher who had his classical guitar from spain. . . cost less than 4k and sounds better than his 12k MR. . . lolz. . .
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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ May 2 2007, 05:29 PM)
ic ic but if you going for the spanish tone might as well get a flamenco guitar?

and has anyone tried bringing in a guitar from spain? i knew a teacher who had his classical guitar from spain. . . cost less than 4k and sounds better than his 12k MR. . . lolz. . .
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wahhh.. 12K MR. i tot MR also made in spain ? ya my teacher also say if happen or relative to go spain get one. but i think thats not possible in near time.
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they hang guitars there like how we hang chicken. . . lolz. .. you walk up to the stall point at one and they take it down for you to test =D

their "kapok" guitars own any guitar you can find around here for the price xD
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flamenco guitar pulak.....flamenco is originated from gypsies dude....
anyways....flamenco guitar got very fast attack and loud....but without sustain n the sweet warmth tone....
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yea i agree but some people prefer the loud and fast attack. . .

you can play the same things on both but the sound would be different. . .

and sustain all goes down to the bracing. . . i mean i've seen Paco De Lucia live and his guitar has sustain i swear but it's a flamenco. . . so it goes down to the built i guess
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never know that guitar is customized. normally ppl buy flamenco and normal classical separately. even gypsy king using separate guitar in their fast and slow song.

whats the air ticket price to spain now ??? hahahahhahaa.
and kapok never exitst in spain. lol.

back to topic.. is mahogany can get a good price for classical ? i heard the guitars there is quite expensive.
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never know that guitar is customized. normally ppl buy flamenco and normal classical separately. even gypsy king using separate guitar in their fast and slow song.

whats the air ticket price to spain now ??? hahahahhahaa.
and kapok never exitst in spain. lol.

back to topic.. is mahogany can get a good price for classical ? i heard the guitars there is quite expensive.
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the word "good price" doesn't exist in mahogany.....guitar collection and the guitar store would be a better choice....if ur budget is around 2k....juz try out the guitar i recommend in the early post....

no point go to spain n buy la....when u calculate back the travel n lodging expenses....the price would be juz the same or maybe more than here....if kena tax from custom u haf to pay another 10%-15%

so....juz get a decent guitar will fo....2k guitar consider very nice liao.....more importantly is practice ur playing lo....like my guitar teacher....he is the runner up for classical guitar competetition back in 10 or 20yrs.....he now using yamaha c-70 only which cost less 400 bucks....
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QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ May 3 2007, 11:30 PM)
the word "good price" doesn't exist in mahogany.....guitar collection and the guitar store would be a better choice....if ur budget is around 2k....juz try out the guitar i recommend in the early post....

no point go to spain n buy la....when u calculate back the travel n lodging expenses....the price would be juz the same or maybe more than here....if kena tax from custom u haf to pay another 10%-15%

so....juz get a decent guitar will fo....2k guitar consider very nice liao.....more importantly is practice ur playing lo....like my guitar teacher....he is the runner up for classical guitar competetition back in 10 or 20yrs.....he now using yamaha c-70 only which cost less 400 bucks....
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yeaa, im using C70 now. just changed to Daddario 46 hard tension string. man i cant believe its only a 400 bucks guitar. the sound is so much diff after the change.

thanks for ur advice smile.gif yep i believe 2K can get a decent guitar. its actually struggling myself inside.

between 2K a entry level spanish or a highest end yamah 201S.
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hey guys, i'm currently using santa cruz dreadnought, planning to sell it because i'm not comfortable with the huge body. i need recommendations on a replacement. not high end stuff, probably around rm200. i'd rather use extra expenses on my electric guitar biggrin.gif.

anyway, i love the santa cruz neck, but i'm looking for something with smaller body, preferably about the size of a classical. anything out there that has this specs? browsed a few shop already, but didn't find one to my liking. so here's the summary:

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- dreadnought type neck(joints at 14th/15th, 20 fret, cutaway)
- nut width, bigger is better, same as classical is ok.

can someone point me to the right direction? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ May 4 2007, 04:35 PM)
need:
- dreadnought type neck(joints at 14th/15th, 20 fret, cutaway)
- nut width, bigger is better, same as classical is ok.

can someone point me to the right direction? biggrin.gif
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hey man.....pls dont post ur sales here....u can put it in the garage sales thread n link it to here....

as for the guitar u'r looking for....u can go for martin's OM,Taylor GC or GS,Maton BG808, if u'r willing to spend 4k n above....

lower range would be Taylor Big Baby,Seagull S6 folk for abt 1.7k

if u want custom made guitar can go for Freeman guitars....the luthier is my teacher...so if interested can let me know lo....


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QUOTE(michly @ May 4 2007, 01:51 PM)
yeaa, im using C70 now. just changed to Daddario 46 hard tension string. man i cant believe its only a 400 bucks guitar. the sound is so much diff after the change.

thanks for ur advice smile.gif yep i believe 2K can get a decent guitar. its actually struggling myself inside.

between  2K  a entry level spanish  or  a  highest end yamah 201S.
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201s is juz the highest end among all the yamaha factory made guitars...y spend 2k on a factory made guitar,thou it's a full solid wood guitar but still the sound is nothing impressing....

so.muz well u spend 2k on a hand-made spanish guitar...thou with laminated back&sides but the sound can beat 201s anytime...for 2k can get a guitar together with a hard case lo....

i've tried 201s....the guitar looks very nice indeed but the sound is juz fair...actually guitar collection at ttdi got alot of good choices...i kinda know the boss there....very helpful....he maybe can to give u a 10-15% discount....

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hey man.....pls dont post ur sales here....u can put it in the garage sales thread n link it to here....

as for the guitar u'r looking for....u can go for martin's OM,Taylor GC or GS,Maton BG808, if u'r willing to spend 4k n above....

lower range would be Taylor Big Baby,Seagull S6 folk for abt 1.7k

if u want custom made guitar can go for Freeman guitars....the luthier is my teacher...so if interested can let me know lo....

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it was not actually a sale, is it now? just inquiring in the general sense. i haven't even decide to sell it.

anyway, 1.7k and above is not around 200, and custom made is not what i'd call "not high end stuff".
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hey man.....pls dont post ur sales here....u can put it in the garage sales thread n link it to here....

as for the guitar u'r looking for....u can go for martin's OM,Taylor GC or GS,Maton BG808, if u'r willing to spend 4k n above....

lower range would be Taylor Big Baby,Seagull S6 folk for abt 1.7k

if u want custom made guitar can go for Freeman guitars....the luthier is my teacher...so if interested can let me know lo....


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201s is juz the highest end among all the yamaha factory made guitars...y spend 2k on a factory made guitar,thou it's a full solid wood guitar but still the sound is nothing impressing....

so.muz well u spend 2k on a hand-made spanish guitar...thou with laminated back&sides but the sound can beat 201s anytime...for 2k can get a guitar together with a hard case lo....

i've tried 201s....the guitar looks very nice indeed but the sound is juz fair...actually guitar collection at ttdi got alot of good choices...i kinda know the boss there....very helpful....he maybe can to give u a 10-15% discount....
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ok dude. ill pay a visit there smile.gif . advise taken smile.gif . u brighten me up ..
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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ May 5 2007, 02:44 AM)
it was not actually a sale, is it now? just inquiring in the general sense. i haven't even decide to sell it.

anyway, 1.7k and above is not around 200, and custom made is not what i'd call "not high end stuff".
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but 200 bucks all u can get is kapok...or u can get BSL guitar less than 300 bucks....got pickup summore....

QUOTE(michly @ May 5 2007, 09:33 AM)
ok dude. ill pay  a visit there smile.gif . advise taken smile.gif .  u brighten me up ..
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no prob man...good luck in ur purchase....if ur guitar need any add-on...action setup....fret levelling re-finish...juz let me know...
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I'm planning to get myself a new classical guitar. Budget around RM400-500 as I started to dislike my cheap RM100 guitar's sound. I prefer the sound to be something thicker and rounder. Any recommendations? I don't mind spending a little more but not more than RM600. I know that its not big money that I'm forking out but I'm just trying to get the best from that price range.

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QUOTE(jdreamer @ Jun 22 2007, 10:18 PM)
I'm planning to get myself a new classical guitar. Budget around RM400-500 as I started to dislike my cheap RM100 guitar's sound. I prefer the sound to be something thicker and rounder. Any recommendations? I don't mind spending a little more but not more than RM600. I know that its not big money that I'm forking out but I'm just trying to get the best from that price range.

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600, you dont have much choice unless you go to Woh Fatt, choose the best china made guitar , u might find your sound there . Otherwise get a Yamaha C80 , which fit ur budget.

thicker or rouder sound can easily archive with solid top guitar, but will cost u. Dont forget, the String does matter as well eg tension , brand etc. ..
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This is the late post of pictures of the guitar that I bought.  Norman B18 acoustic tobacco sunburst finish with Fishman Classic 4T pickup.
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how much is the B18 ? is it good enough .. ? try to describe more..i wanna buy ..
how much is it wif a pick up ? my budget maximum is 1200 ..
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600, you dont have much choice unless you go to Woh Fatt, choose the best china made guitar , u might find your sound there .  Otherwise get a Yamaha C80 , which fit ur budget. 

thicker or rouder sound can easily archive with solid top guitar, but will cost u. Dont forget, the String does matter as well eg tension , brand etc. ..
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there's alot of good strings around....d'addario,la bella,augustine,savarez....the best string tension to use is normal tension...coz high tension will make ut top buldge at the bride n will be the action higher....this case will even happen on a rm8k guitar(mostly refer to solid top guitars)....unless u modified the bracing n add reinforcement to the bridge part like i did to my alhambra 1P....now sound even better n louder...so that i can now use hard tension without much worries...

if ur looking for a classical guitar withing ur budget....try out valencia(can get in woh fatt)...with ur budget i think can get a solid top wan edi....or go for yamaha 111C....it's abt rm700...c-80 looks nice but not worthy to buy....111C/S i think is the best for u at the moment....but give valencia a try too....the got some decent guitar within ur budget...
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so reevex, hows your guitar construction coming along?

i still have to go back to do some final touchup on my electric.
just so lazy to go there during weekdays cos that kepong road is forever jammed.
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so reevex, hows your guitar construction coming along?

i still have to go back to do some final touchup on my electric.
just so lazy to go there during weekdays cos that kepong road is forever jammed.
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where you guys go to build them guitars? drool.gif
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QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ Jun 27 2007, 01:21 AM)
there's alot of good strings around....d'addario,la bella,augustine,savarez....the best string tension to use is normal tension...coz high tension will make ut top buldge at the bride n will be the action higher....this case will even happen on a rm8k guitar(mostly refer to solid top guitars)....unless u modified the bracing n add reinforcement to the bridge part like i did to my alhambra 1P....now sound even better n louder...so that i can now use hard tension without much worries...

if ur looking for a classical guitar withing ur budget....try out valencia(can get in woh fatt)...with ur budget i think can get a solid top wan edi....or go for yamaha 111C....it's abt rm700...c-80 looks nice but not worthy to buy....111C/S i think is the best for u at the moment....but give valencia a try too....the got some decent guitar within ur budget...
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hmm.. i never know that.. i ask the woh fatt boss he said hard tension is still ok but not the extra hard tension . im using savarez string .. very nice string.. daddario is nothing compare to it. Do u mean i should change to use normal tension ? the sound wont be as loud already sad.gif .. im using cedar solid top .. if use normal tension, the sound will go deep .
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theres a guy selling off his epiphone 12 string acoustic for rm750 with hardcase in jamtank. maybe some of you wanna check that out. he emailed me the pics. dont think i'll be getting it though as i'll hav too many gears to carry bck to kuching. oh ya, his offer only lasts til this weekend.
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Yeah, I passed on that too.....

Mainly because I'm used to a cutaway, and this is a Jumbo body.......

But it's still a very good deal.
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theres a guy selling off his epiphone 12 string acoustic for rm750 with hardcase in jamtank. maybe some of you wanna check that out. he emailed me the pics. dont think i'll be getting it though as i'll hav too many gears to carry bck to kuching. oh ya, his offer only lasts til this weekend.
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i hereby mark the end of classical music era in Malaysia. sop sop....i will still pursue classical ..
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hi all, first post in this place, and im not even sure this is the thread to do it, but i hope i can get some help/ advice from some of you..

i have an sx acoustic electric which i just bought recently. what i didnt notice was that there's actually a slight crack on the fretboard above the first fret, near the high e string, right where the binding is.. small half cm crack.. it's so small you cant really see it unless you look carefully, but if you press the neck, you can tell it's a crack cause it "moves"/ open-closes..

really heart ache. the thing is assuming i cant claim warranty, what can i do to fix it? should i worry about it? does anyone know of a good place to repair guitars, and whether it would cost a bomb.. im thinking hopefully i can get someone to put some sealant and wood dust in it.. otherwise just play till the fretboard koyak then change fretboard.. it's sad cause my guitar is only two weeks old..

thanks in advance for the help.. =)
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hi all, first post in this place, and im not even sure this is the thread to do it, but i hope i can get some help/ advice from some of you..

i have an sx acoustic electric which i just bought recently. what i didnt notice was that there's actually a slight crack on the fretboard above the first fret, near the high e string, right where the binding is.. small half cm crack.. it's so small you cant really see it unless you look carefully, but if you press the neck, you can tell it's a crack cause it "moves"/ open-closes..

really heart ache. the thing is assuming i cant claim warranty, what can i do to fix it? should i worry about it? does anyone know of a good place to repair guitars, and whether it would cost a bomb.. im thinking hopefully i can get someone to put some sealant and wood dust in it.. otherwise just play till the fretboard koyak then change fretboard.. it's sad cause my guitar is only two weeks old..

thanks in advance for the help.. =)
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Does anyone actually feels comfortable using .011 strings on an acoustic? I know it's called "light" but damn it is hard for me to play. Is it any benefits using a heavier strings on an acoustics? Think it's a good idea keeping the strings and train my finger strength? I normally use .010 and I can play better with it LOL.
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Does anyone actually feels comfortable using .011 strings on an acoustic? I know it's called "light" but damn it is hard for me to play. Is it any benefits using a heavier strings on an acoustics? Think it's a good idea keeping the strings and train my finger strength? I normally use .010 and I can play better with it LOL.
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try 9 gauge on acoustic, sounds like pure crap.
same also on electrics, but of cos electrics can boost up with pickups, tho the person playing will definitely notice difference in tone.
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mine is set up for .012
definitely coz of tone. notes sound nicer, harmonics ring out, slap sounds better, hammer on somehow seems clearer, etc
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Thanks. I guess I'm keeping the 011 strings. Maybe it's time for me to train my finger strength.
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thanks ReeveX. i did try to see if i could fix it myself, only thing being the crack is so thin i cant get anything in it. i've sent to back to the guy i bought it from to see if he can seal it or something. thanks again. =)

well, to share my experience with 11 gauge strings, i first learned how to play a guitar using a broken guitar (broken as in the neck actually snapped where it connects to the body, and is held back together with a piece of wood and four nails, believe it or not). i had 11s on them, and the action was like half an inch at the first fret, no kidding. obviously it killed my fingers. but with enough determination you'll get through it, and the calluses will do you good later on. really. flex.gif my ring and pinky fingers have since developed "permanent slots/ grooves" on them that correspond to the string width. XD not sure it's a good thing though.

anyway, im furious to find out that the daddario pb 11s that i use only cause 7 Singaporean dollars down south, while we pay above RM 25 here. vmad.gif
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i mean no offence...but y u guys always think that starting with a crappy instrument with horrible playability is better...probably wat u all say might be true like building a calluses layer on the fingertip n perhaps strengths...but at the same time ur finger's muscle will stiffen even faster as u use excessive strength to fret it...maybe u will feel more comfortable playing it as time goes by most probably becoz u r used to the discomfort already...which is not very good a there might be alot of bad habits already develop along the way as u force urself playing it like that...so i think that is it better that a beginner starts off with a decent instruments n if possible...send it to a luthier to setup for best playability...so as a player...we only hope to play a better guitar as we improve...so muz well start off with a good playability guitar n get used to that type of guitar at the beginning...

this is juz my humble opinion...pls don't take offense on it...thanks
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hmm.. im not sure why people would think playing lousy guitars first is better, but in my case it was just a matter of no choice cause i didnt have money to buy a new guitar. eheh. but well, i guess it did help, as much as it was broken. although i wont say it's better than if i had a proper guitar to start with. not saying that at all. smile.gif
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No, starting with crappy instruments are absolutely not a good choice. Yes, Kapok, I hate you.


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I think the fact why people started out with a cheap guitar is because they are not sure whether they will give up halfway. If they do then oh well, it's a cheap guitar. If they manage to persist on, then i'm sure the next step is to buy a better guitar. smile.gif
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Still not supporting the buying kapok at first guitar. Start with good instrument most probably will keep the student go on but not with lousy instrument which doesnt sounds good. In fact , most of the musician will recomend to start with a decent instrument, even the books say that.
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if you have the cash then it's good... but there are also guys out there who asked their parents to buy them expensive equipments but quit playing half way... then you'll find them in pawn shops or Cash Converter.
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QUOTE(hotfootpowder @ Oct 5 2007, 11:31 AM)
if you have the cash then it's good... but there are also guys out there who asked their parents to buy them expensive equipments but quit playing half way... then you'll find them in pawn shops or Cash Converter.
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QUOTE(michly @ Oct 5 2007, 01:55 AM)
Still not supporting the buying kapok at first guitar. Start with good instrument most probably will keep the student go on but not with lousy instrument which doesnt sounds good. In fact , most of the musician will recomend to start with a decent instrument, even the books say that.
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Yeah that's true. Most of my students regret using a kapok. But what to do? They bought it before coming to their first class. So i can't actually say much but to ask them to endure. And when they get better they should look for a better one.
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QUOTE(hotfootpowder @ Oct 5 2007, 11:31 AM)
if you have the cash then it's good... but there are also guys out there who asked their parents to buy them expensive equipments but quit playing half way... then you'll find them in pawn shops or Cash Converter.
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who said we need to pay high prices to get good guitars....yamaha c-40m is a damn good beginner guitar n cost less than 300 bucks....


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QUOTE(BlueSilver @ Oct 5 2007, 04:26 PM)
Yeah that's true. Most of my students regret using a kapok. But what to do? They bought it before coming to their first class. So i can't actually say much but to ask them to endure. And when they get better they should look for a better one.
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waliao....got "teacher" class player here liao..." shocking.gif

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QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ Oct 5 2007, 07:26 PM)
who said we need to pay high prices to get good guitars....yamaha c-40m is a damn good beginner guitar n cost less than 300 bucks....


Added on October 5, 2007, 7:26 pm

waliao....got "teacher" class player here liao..." shocking.gif
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My first guitar was a kapok passed down to me from my dad. And the second guitar that i owned is the Yamaha F310 which is a second hand. It only costs me MYR200. smile.gif

aiseh i teach very very really very basic. My students are from age 11 years to 16years. So it's really very basic. smile.gif
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http://www.cuencaguitars.com/

for classical & flamenco folks. so far i know only woh fatt carry this brand. Superb guitar. this brand has been exist for very long time and quite popular in Spain. This website is newly built not long ago.
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wow the guitars look really nice. Any idea how much is one?
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QUOTE(michly @ Oct 7 2007, 03:41 AM)
http://www.cuencaguitars.com/

for classical & flamenco folks. so far i know only woh fatt carry this brand. Superb guitar. this brand has been exist for very long time and quite popular in Spain. This website is newly built not long ago.
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come on man....dun ever go for cuenca....not really nice guitars...esteve is way better than cuenca...yet reasonanle....
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come on man....dun ever go for cuenca....not really nice guitars...esteve is way better than cuenca...yet reasonanle....
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What can you guys recommend for my friend?He has a budget of RM700(Max)? He wants an electric acoustic guitar,and I don't really have much knowledge about acoustics.
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Guys, how much should I let go this acoustic guitar?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/535622



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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Oct 13 2007, 06:30 PM)
What can you guys recommend for my friend?He has a budget of RM700(Max)? He wants an electric acoustic guitar,and I don't really have much knowledge about acoustics.
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For that price I reckon it'll be hard to get a better acoustic electric new. Maybe save up more or try searching the second hand market.
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Hey guys, just found this thread. Classical/flamenco guitarist reporting in. I'll be taking Yamaha grade 6 next year march. Passing that, i should be teacher level.
Currently using a Valencia Custom Limited. You don't get many of those lol heres what it looks like Valencia Custom LTD Mine is number 109 xD
I plan to sell this later on and buy a better classical lol

Anyone tried playing romance d'amour with tremolo? it sounds 10x better than the original. A real spanish feel to it lol.

Btw, Kapok suck, period. Never consider buying them as your first guitar. NEVER!!!! You want a cheap and decent one, yamaha offers those. I think about RM200 or so you can get a cheap, decent guitar. If you don't think its worth the money, then don't learn it. I always say, Music is not a cheap thing, it takes money, time and effort to master.
Heck, there are even RM50k guitars. Conde Hermanos for example. Ive even tried it, and its NOTHING like any of your guitars. Totally on a different level man. Imagine, RM50k can even buy kancil, thats how much this classical guitar is worth @_@

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QUOTE(Ryuuga @ Nov 10 2007, 01:14 AM)
Hey guys, just found this thread. Classical/flamenco guitarist reporting in. I'll be taking Yamaha grade 6 next year march. Passing that, i should be teacher level.
Currently using a Valencia Custom Limited. You don't get many of those lol heres what it looks like Valencia Custom LTD Mine is number 109 xD
I plan to sell this later on and buy a better classical lol

Anyone tried playing romance d'amour with tremolo? it sounds 10x better than the original. A real spanish feel to it lol.

Btw, Kapok suck, period. Never consider buying them as your first guitar. NEVER!!!! You want a cheap and decent one, yamaha offers those. I think about RM200 or so you can get a cheap, decent guitar. If you don't think its worth the money, then don't learn it. I always say, Music is not a cheap thing, it takes money, time and effort to master.
Heck, there are even RM50k guitars. Conde Hermanos for example. Ive even tried it, and its NOTHING like any of your guitars. Totally on a different level man. Imagine, RM50k can even buy kancil, thats how much this classical guitar is worth @_@
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gosh.. finally someone like you appear smile.gif . ive been looking for classical / flamenco kaki hardly ppl reply me. smile.gif glad you can join. yes i tried Romanza with tremolo, it is sounds good smile.gif . but my tremolo skill not tat good yet still learning to smooth it out.

yea kapok sux.. im having a Cuenca cost around 4K and yeaaa.. still nothing compare to a 50k guitar.
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Lol yeah i realised its either acoustic or electric players around here. Luckily, my mentor teaches in groups so i get to know other classical players and how they play. Heck, even play together in an ensemble!! We(classical players of LYN) should do that sometime, its really a different feeling from jamming.
Cuenca's are fine guitars, even though not top notch(you'll have to spend a fortune for those) they're still decent guitars for a fairly advanced player.

As for tremolo skills, try playing with 2 fingersx3(i m i) or play 3 fingers x4(i a m i)
Playing with two fingers balances the tremolo very well whereas playing 3fingerx4 is the real tremolo ^^
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hmm, how does classical players play in a group? just curious, coz most scores are for solo players.

Oh, btw, mind telling wat does tr on top of the scores stands for? is it tremolo?
How to read the notes, as in from where shud i start doing tremolo?

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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 10 2007, 11:49 AM)
hmm, how does classical players play in a group? just curious, coz most scores are for solo players.

Oh, btw, mind telling wat does tr on top of the scores stands for? is it tremolo?
How to read the notes, as in from where shud i start doing tremolo?
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haha good question there ^^
there are scores that are arranged for several guitars, usually three or four parts. First guitar(lead) second guitar(accompaniment) and third guitar (bassline). Simple classical guitar ensembles require each guitar to play note by note. It may seem like an easy piece playing alone, but when you play in a group, timing is of essence =)
Medium level ones require the bassline to play chords as well and so on...
My mentor always tell me, "You can be the best playing alone, but if you cannot play with others, you are like nothing" And i believe so as well. That is why, for the classical players who have never played in groups, i recommend you find some kaki and play now =)

As for tr, im not very sure what i means
If it is tremolo it usually has three similar notes(quavers and such) joined together with a triplet on top. usually when you see this pattern

------000----000-----000----000------
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---0--------------------------------------

You will know it is tremolo =)

or the piece will look like this user posted image
Image taken from wikipedia, Hope that helps ^^

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Heres an example of a score that is played with tremolo. Notice the pattern?
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Thanx ryuuga, now that u speak of it, i do remember there is are scores with 3 parts in the begining classical book.. haha, i learned classical before for few months before my sensei left.. tongue.gif

Anyway here is the part i m refering to, from the pic u show me it, i guess this notation i m playing might not be tremolo.

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Please enlighten me on how to play this part.. icon_question.gif
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hm playing that bar in my head, it sounds as if you need to plllluuuck it. as in.. p m a it in one note(wonder if that makes any sense) uhm...instead of playing it TOGETHER, you play p then m then a but the timing is a quaver note.. (ok im not making sense, somethings are better explained through music xD)

Thats just what i think, it could stand for other things but definitely not tremolo nor its an expression >_>
Not very sure also la haha (failure as a teacher) xD
Guitar sensei's please helpz
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haha, i was thinking of the same thing, p m and a like a sweep,
but it sounds better in tremolo, hmmm hmm.gif

ah just play as it as i see fits.. lol
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AH a sweep thts wht its called @_@
Sorry couldn't get the name out of my head, It didn't occur to me we could sweep in classicals ahahaha
Yeah just play as you like to play ^^ music is subjective lol
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lol, it wasnt really sweep, but i thought it was quite simillar, well, we could actually solo with our classical in the same way we did with electrics, i ve gone from using classical which i dun like tht time to a strat.. but nowadays i find myself going back to using classical and i find it rather toneful.

lol.. i find that i could do alot of things with the classical, maybe its because i was too uptight about using only electric to play the song i wanna play and classical is only for classical songs some time ago..

But if i tried changing my preception and soloed blues and some scales with classical, i find it rather amusing that classical can actually be used to play many things.. lol
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Yeah, i felt the same way about classical. I actually start with the acoustic. But eventually moved on to classical because my mentor is actually a classical major, and i found that classical is rather interesting too. My mindset before that was, "classical guitar=classical songs" but now i know better ohoho~
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maybe we shud do a classical busk in the street.. not done by buskers i guess...

Most buskers u ll see them play pop songs and all, we group one gang and play classical.. lol biggrin.gif

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Speaking of busking, id really like to do that!! just like YUI or sawajiri erika in taiyou no uta xD
but ive never seen busking groups around here... Any good place you might recommend?
I'm afraid busking here is considered "begging" for malaysians =/ you know how they are, so naive that when people are playing songs, they think we're begging.
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thats the difference between now and the 80s tongue.gif

now all ppl busking only of cos mostly acoustic, and wait for ppl to drop coins.

in the 80s...whole bands were setting up drumsets and amps outside klang bas stand...and just jamming away hoping to get signed...

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lol, its the difference in perception between here and western country.
But who cares, as long as we are dressed decently, enjoy ourself, thts all that matters.. wink.gif

I m not sure about the appropriate place for that, at Bukit bintang near monorail, group of hip hoppers gather to dance there at sunday, dunno wat time.. haha
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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 10 2007, 08:06 PM)
Thanx ryuuga, now that u speak of it, i do remember there is are scores with 3 parts in the begining classical book.. haha, i learned classical before for few months before my sensei left..  tongue.gif

Anyway here is the part i m refering to, from the pic u show me it, i guess this notation i m playing might not be tremolo.

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Please enlighten me on how to play this part..  icon_question.gif
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it's a trill if ur wants to know th"tr" sign...u hit the note then hammer a whole tone n pull-off untill the time fit...in this case u'll do the thrill is 4 demi-semi quaver...if still not sure....juz ask...
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oooh trill! thx reeveX.com-sensei xD

Yeah, ive heard of dancers groups around bukit bintang area at night. My friend told me they dance there lol. We should grab our guitars and play next to them xD make them suprised lol
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Lol... thanx alot senior reeve.X!! now i know wat it meant..

LOL, ryuuga, later they thought turf fight.. tot we wanna take over or something.. haha.. not nice to see bunch oh hip-hop gangsta like ppl rounding on us..
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haha then we take our guitars, kapok, kayu, wood whatever and hit them. with "TAKE OVER THEIR TURF!!!" as our warcry
*technically still on topic because we use kapok, kayu and wood* XDD
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Lol, maybe we shud start a new thread for busking classical songs.. hahaha... gotta brush up my skills and learn more classical pieces, each of us can do 3 piece and get a group of 10.. shud be a good idea... but places.. hmm
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You guys listen to Rodrigo y Gabriela? They play a really interesting latin/mexican style of music with classical guitars in pairs.
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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 13 2007, 07:15 PM)
Lol, maybe we shud start a new thread for busking classical songs.. hahaha... gotta brush up my skills and learn more classical pieces, each of us can do 3 piece and get a group of 10.. shud be a good idea... but places.. hmm
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haha...good idea...can rent a hall lo...like community halls lo..shud be quite reasonable...

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hi guys, im jus starting with classical. Any song good to learn.
Any romantic type melody would be nice hehe..i've learn those
listed on the 1st post.

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lagrima...adelita...gran vals...el noi de la mare...cavatina...
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haha reeve dunnit hall la, we just do it on the street.. more cun, got money just use it to yumcha after that haha..
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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 14 2007, 10:04 PM)
haha reeve dunnit hall la, we just do it on the street.. more cun, got money just use it to yumcha after that haha..
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then dun wan la...so "jit doh"...
or do it in some1's house lo...but reli do think it's a good idea...
good exposure...exchanging thoughts..
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hall need to pay lo... somore dunno how much... unless someone wanna contribute their home la.. tongue.gif

haha, coz i was thinking like spanish style or western style, they play songs by the street and entertain ppl ie. busking..

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i cant really remember most of my classical pieces edi...unless play simple simple one i can sight read lo....hehe
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lol, nevermine lo, all of us learners ma.. just play one which we are most familiar with.. i only can play simple songs.. haha

But currently only got 3 players chatting in this thread.. so kinda hard to get 10 players
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QUOTE(silverchain @ Nov 14 2007, 03:21 PM)
hi guys, im jus starting with classical. Any song good to learn.
Any romantic type melody would be nice hehe..i've learn those
listed on the 1st post.
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adelita, lagrima Though i wouldn't really recommend cavatina for beginners, its too technical and you probably won't be able to play until you can bar chord properly and your pinky gets flexible enough to do hammer and pull offs
You can try classical gas by mason williams or for some spanish fun, farruca, bulerias, peterenas hahaha
Though.. all of those are fast pieces >_<

Oh theres a fingerstyle arrangement of Long and Winding Road by beatles here Its relatively easy to play, you can pm me if you want the tabs ^^

Lol we can practice at someones house of course. And then only go busking! lol itll be so cool playing some flamenco tune on the streets, those who've never heard of it before will stand there listening! xD
It'll also gain us some experience performing icon_rolleyes.gif
Who wants to join can list your name here, then we organize a meet-and-greet cum practice cum exchange information session hahaha
You don't have to be REALLY good, we can start by practicing with simple pieces, as long as we get our timing right and we're all in sync then we're good to go! It improves sight reading too!!

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lol...y nid 10 players...5 enuff la...the group will slowly expand...hehe
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Reeve.X: hehehe true true... i guess we can start with small group of people first.

Ryuuga: hmm, whoose place can we jam in? or do u know of any public places where we can rent an empty room to practice? some music schools offers this as far as i know.
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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 15 2007, 01:03 AM)
Reeve.X: hehehe true true... i guess we can start with small group of people first.

Ryuuga: hmm, whoose place can we jam in? or do u know of any public places where we can rent an empty room to practice? some music schools offers this as far as i know.
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i can join also smile.gif . my classical not that good and still learning. grade 5 yamaha . if your dont mind i can join your to jam classical / latin . smile.gif and we need a good compose to combine all .

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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 15 2007, 01:03 AM)
Reeve.X: hehehe true true... i guess we can start with small group of people first.

Ryuuga: hmm, whoose place can we jam in? or do u know of any public places where we can rent an empty room to practice? some music schools offers this as far as i know.
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Dunno yet wor.. Who want to volunteer thier house? xD If can some place near got yum cha then can yum cha also haha
If not we have to pay for studio...
Oh who knows the 3C there? last time i went, they give me free jamming session lol. But the amps and drum not very good la. But they have dancing rooms, i think we can use them for our sessions =)
Its either free or you have to pay a small fee(ie. RM10)

QUOTE(michly @ Nov 15 2007, 03:05 PM)
i can join also smile.gif . my classical not that good and still learning. grade 5 yamaha . if your dont mind i can join your to jam classical / latin . smile.gif  and we need a good compose to combine all  .
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Sure, anyone is welcomed lol. Wah grade 5 still not good meh.. I not even grade 6 yet wor... >_<
I have a book for classical duets lol and a some 3-piece ^^
Can get alot from the net too ^^
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good good good....we are bringing live back to the classical music world....haha
grade 5...buaya...haha
juz jam for fun lo....it's a healthy activity ma....
can exchange thoughts....scores...but not girlfriend...wahaha....
i think i can volunteer my place....but only at night lo...or sunday...dun suddenly come 20 fellas lo...hehe
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Ryuuga, your previous post makes me feel kinda interested in classical =x
i do have one.. but its KAPOK hahaha, It was given to me by my a friend...
actually, it's more like he jz leave it in my hse.. and after a few months he said is mine.. @@" what's funny is he got scammed for RM250 for that kapok

tremelo is cool.. bt I never tried it before.. is it hard? XD
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lol, michly, grade 5 and u wanna say u sui pei?? i lvl 0 only la.. just play for fun.. now learning Puccini's Waltz, theme from la Boheme

True true reeve.X, i guess we can sew interest on classical among youngster soon. I need more training from now on, lol, gotta train more on classical playing.

Ryuuga, if the room is only rm10 then why not? but dun make it too far from town, lol.. travelling will be a chore...


Added on November 15, 2007, 9:46 pmKarin, it does't matter if its kapok, aria, or admira, cap ayam or something, as long as u can play on it, thats wat matters.. wink.gif

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QUOTE(Karin @ Nov 15 2007, 09:17 PM)
Ryuuga, your previous post makes me  feel kinda interested in classical =x
i do have one.. but its KAPOK hahaha, It was given to me by my a friend...
actually, it's more like he jz leave it in my hse.. and after a few months he said is mine.. @@" what's funny is he got scammed for RM250 for that kapok

tremelo is cool.. bt I never tried it before.. is it hard? XD
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Lol what a nice friend you have xD It really doesnt matter lol. Pickup your kapok and play~ If you think you're more interested in it, you can get a better one later.
Slowly we learn together la!
Tremolo arh.. Took me a week to master. The most important thing is that your plucking must be consistent else no meaning to it ^^.

@Mr. Z
Lol lvl 0. You think online game arh xD
Well you see, the place is actually really deserted lol. Its a government facility thats why its cheap. But its also under used. Wouldn't recommend it if we are jamming cause the amps and drums suck, but if we're playing classical and/or acoustic, we can use one of the dancing rooms, its pretty cool! xD

EDIT: this is all subang based or anyone who can travel to subang >.< I realised i forgot to include the venue lol.

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lol, is there anywhere near KL or city center?
anyway we are using classical, dunnit any amp or watsoever, just chairs and a spacious room.. lol..

@ryuuga
lol, coz some syllabus grade 10 is highest while some like yamaha starts from grade 10 right? use lvl 0 easiest... lol..
any easy pieces to recommend? lagrima is quite easy, got the tab and scores.. but never really practice.. just simply play..
Time to buy metronome.. lol
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play romance de amor...the whole song....if can play it perfectly i salute u...*some tricky thing behind*
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hmm, wat do u mean by tricky thing?
Besides the tremolo version, i can basically play romance de amor with a "self-declared" satisfactory results, tongue.gif

Some songs i vaguely knows includes those were the days, which ppl find very boring.

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Any of you all into classical music?
This category of music seems to have fadded away from the modern guitar society..
Most of them are into bass, electric, acoustics..

I think classical musicians are a bunch of rare breed.  laugh.gif
I must say it's really hard to master them...Accurate fingering is a must.

Songs like:
Romance De' Amour (popular)
Cavatina/Deer Hunter
Moonlight Sonata
Gypsy Rondo

Gears?
Me? I personally have a Yamaha C-310  bought over 6 years ago..it was my first budget guitar, and now? it sound nicer then those handmade about the price of rm1k  laugh.gif  thumbup.gif
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wow, thank u TS. everything mie enter this forum never actually touch classical guitar thread cause i always play ROCK ROCK ROCK DISTORTION RRRAWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

o anyway, thanks to ur thread, i go listen to the 4 song u recommend, i decided to pick up the classical guitar i never use long long le. casuse the string putus so many time i lazy fix=.=
actually the first guitar i learn was classical guitar but found it boring with the stupiak yamaha course(ended up quiting after 8-9months).

then later break from guitar life for few months. then pickup electric guitar and feel in love with it.
so thank you again for this thread and im going to sent my classical guitar for fixing and practise this few songs.
*any more song recomended??*



P/S: my clasical guitar is a yamaha C-310 just like urs tongue.gif bought like 5 years ago LOL

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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 16 2007, 01:27 AM)
hmm, wat do u mean by tricky thing?
Besides the tremolo version, i can basically play romance de amor with a "self-declared" satisfactory results, tongue.gif

Some songs i vaguely knows includes those were the days, which ppl find very boring.
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lol...u try n make sure the third note of ur arppeggio sound out nicely every single time...it's damn hard to achieve...even yamaha chief eric ang says its not easy even for professionals....u can go try lo...


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True true reeve.X, i guess we can sew interest on classical among youngster soon. I need more training from now on, lol, gotta train more on classical playing.

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wah...use the word youngster....i oso very young only wor....haha

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QUOTE(ongpohheng @ Nov 16 2007, 01:55 AM)
*any more song recomended??*
P/S: my clasical guitar is a yamaha C-310 just like urs tongue.gif bought like 5 years ago LOL
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Lol TS already disappear. Left us only haha
hmm, the usual la, classical gas, lagrima, marzuka, adelita, allegro vivace.
Try snowflight its a simple and melodic piece <3 else you could try ballade pour adeline on guitar lol

@reeveX i play romance de amour with self-satisfactory results too! xD
i'm still very young too bro =)
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QUOTE(Ryuuga @ Nov 16 2007, 12:27 PM)
Lol TS already disappear. Left us only haha
hmm, the usual la, classical gas, lagrima, marzuka, adelita, allegro vivace.
Try snowflight its a simple and melodic piece <3 else you could try ballade pour adeline on guitar lol

@reeveX i play romance de amour with self-satisfactory results too! xD
i'm still very young too bro =)
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aiyo...play romance de amor until self-satisfactory lvl where got enuff...nid to play until u can satisfy those good players only got meaning ma...if self-satisfactory i long long time satisfy liao lo....but in order to be good...no point satisying myself...nif to satisfy other ppl n impress them..
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QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ Nov 16 2007, 03:59 PM)
aiyo...play romance de amor until self-satisfactory lvl where got enuff...nid to play until u can satisfy those good players only got meaning ma...if self-satisfactory i long long time satisfy liao lo....but in order to be good...no point satisying myself...nif to satisfy other ppl n impress them..
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haha same here. currently learning canon rock. just 1 word :HARD
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One work back to u...PRACTICE,,,,
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Lol, reeve.X how old are you wor? u are teacher level leh, teaching music lagi..

haha, my music can impress new player and normal non musicians only.. lol... Professional player abit hard lo, coz me not so particular on the details, so the playing very crude.. lol..

So any one knows any place in city center which we can go for meet up and practice?


Added on November 16, 2007, 4:51 pm@reeve.x, abit awkward if use ppl house, i think use a public spot for everyone easier lo, like that u wont be surprised ie. frightened if suddenly 100 ppl turned up, lol...

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hmm...i got 2 classicals tongue.gif
1 is some old congress classical...the other is the yamaha silent guitar which technically is more of a electric guitar.
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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 15 2007, 09:44 PM)
lol, michly, grade 5 and u wanna say u sui pei?? i lvl 0 only la.. just play for fun.. now learning Puccini's Waltz, theme from la Boheme

True true reeve.X, i guess we can sew interest on classical among youngster soon. I need more training from now on, lol, gotta train more on classical playing.

Ryuuga, if the room is only rm10 then why not? but dun make it too far from town, lol.. travelling will be a chore...


Added on November 15, 2007, 9:46 pmKarin, it does't matter if its kapok, aria, or admira, cap ayam or something, as long as u can play on it, thats wat matters.. wink.gif
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lol.....
cap ayam!! HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA
I wonder if really got such thing.. sure damn coool right..
maybe I should find.. cap..LEMBU hahahahahahahhahahahhaa

sry about that, hmm.. play? I tried a few times playing oshio's song with classical
sounds a lil...weird.. -sleep.gif""


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Lol what a nice friend you have xD It really doesnt matter lol. Pickup your kapok and play~ If you think you're more interested in it, you can get a better one later.
Slowly we learn together la!
Tremolo arh.. Took me a week to master. The most important thing is that your plucking must be consistent else no meaning to it ^^.

@Mr. Z
Lol lvl 0. You think online game arh xD
Well you see, the place is actually really deserted lol. Its a government facility thats why its cheap. But its also under used. Wouldn't recommend it if we are jamming cause the amps and drums suck, but if we're playing classical and/or acoustic, we can use one of the dancing rooms, its pretty cool! xD

EDIT: this is all subang based or anyone who can travel to subang >.< I realised i forgot to include the venue lol.
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slowly learn together? dude u lvl 5 aledi leh.. I dont even know what level I'm in shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ Nov 16 2007, 03:59 PM)
aiyo...play romance de amor until self-satisfactory lvl where got enuff...nid to play until u can satisfy those good players only got meaning ma...if self-satisfactory i long long time satisfy liao lo....but in order to be good...no point satisying myself...nif to satisfy other ppl n impress them..
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heh. My concept or a tip to everyone:
You have to love and enjoy your music before you want others to enjoy it. If you don't enjoy your music, then you cant expect others to enjoy it ^^. So its okay to play until you are satisfied. And for every time you play, set the limit a little bit higher than what you could achieve before that. Music is about self satisfactory and self improvement ^^

@MR.Z kl arh.. abit far lo >_> I dun stay in KL so i dunno any place. But if got also i can go la. ^^

@ongpohhengCanon rock is pretty simple once you get the hang of it ^^

@Karin aiyo so kan cheong for what, slowly learn laa. I teach you some, you teach me some lo =P In life we can never finish learning everything. You might know something i don't thats why i say, exchange infos ^^
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haha ryuuga then u look for a spot in subang la.. just see roughly where lo.. how many pieces per-person? gotta start practicing lo.. lol...
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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 16 2007, 09:02 PM)
haha ryuuga then u look for a spot in subang la.. just see roughly where lo.. how many pieces per-person? gotta start practicing lo.. lol...
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Guys like run out of topic already leh . i tot we gonna jam classical one ??? hahahaha.. Cap ayam nvm . i got an extra yamaha classical to borrow. im sure everyone here sure got extra cheap guitar.

and ya, Romanza is not easy to play perfectly . im learning the tremolo for Romanza and blardy hard.

so bila mau jam ??? anyone got Etude in full ?? .. anyway play some duet or any song , modern also can as long as we can all play together... thats why i said need a good composer to combine us all and obviously im not the one.


Added on November 16, 2007, 9:41 pmand one more thing , im not youngster also leh .. next year 28 liau loh ... working like a freaking dog in IBM now. i bet some of us here also working adult.

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lol.. yeah lo, u guys got any good duet's song a?
I sucks at timing leh.. will often go offbeat, lol..

Hmm, i only have one classical for myself..

@Michly, Where to get Etude ? U got any easy and nice pieces to recommend?
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heh. My concept or a tip to everyone:
You have to love and enjoy your music before you want others to enjoy it. If you don't enjoy your music, then you cant expect others to enjoy it ^^. So its okay to play until you are satisfied. And for every time you play, set the limit a little bit higher than what you could achieve before that. Music is about self satisfactory and self improvement ^^

@MR.Z kl arh.. abit far lo >_> I dun stay in KL so i dunno any place. But if got also i can go la. ^^

@ongpohhengCanon rock is pretty simple once you get the hang of it ^^

@Karin aiyo so kan cheong for what, slowly learn laa. I teach you some, you teach me some lo =P In life we can never finish learning everything. You might know something i don't thats why i say, exchange infos ^^
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QUOTE(michly @ Nov 16 2007, 09:38 PM)
Guys like run out of topic already leh . i tot we gonna jam classical one ??? hahahaha..   Cap ayam nvm . i got an extra yamaha classical to borrow. im sure everyone here sure got extra cheap guitar.

and ya, Romanza is not easy to play perfectly . im learning the tremolo for Romanza and blardy hard.

so bila mau jam ??? anyone got Etude in full ?? .. anyway play some duet or any song , modern also can as long as we can all play together... thats why i said need a good composer to combine us all and obviously im not the one.


Added on November 16, 2007, 9:41 pmand one more thing , im not youngster also leh .. next year 28 liau loh ...  working like a freaking dog in IBM now. i bet some of us here also working adult.
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jam for classical song? so beginning level also can join ah? smile.gif


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QUOTE(michly @ Oct 10 2007, 05:32 AM)
haha. no point argue..  we all know its all up to the player . i admit cuenca built quality is not so good but im kinda like it . sweet mellow cedar sound.  im owning a 50R which around Rm2300. Do you know that its actually share the same factory for Alhambra?? hehehe.. they just brand it differently. esteve is a good guitar as well but with my budget and my requirement i chose cuenca.
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my friend own a esteve, i think around RM4k the time.. so if compare 4k esteve vs 4k cuenca which better?
beside around 3k can get which model for cuence? 70R?
any good recommand within this range, now saving money hope can get a nice guitar in future.

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QUOTE(michly @ Nov 16 2007, 09:38 PM)
Guys like run out of topic already leh . i tot we gonna jam classical one ??? hahahaha..  Cap ayam nvm . i got an extra yamaha classical to borrow. im sure everyone here sure got extra cheap guitar.
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Heh still on topic la. Jamming session still under planning. I suggest we play at the 3C there lo. Its a public place and its cheap/ free =P

QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 16 2007, 10:22 PM)
lol.. yeah lo, u guys got any good duet's song a?
I sucks at timing leh.. will often go offbeat, lol..

@Michly, Where to get Etude ? U got any easy and nice pieces to recommend?
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Yeah i have a whole book of duet classical pieces, but havent really got the chance to try them out. Got some F.sor, carruli, mauro giulani etc. inside.
Thats the whole point for playing in groups lol to train your timing, sight reading and to learn to play together~

What etude you talking about? i think got damn many pieces named etude lol >_< All by different composers some more haha

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jam for classical song? so beginning level also can join ah? smile.gif


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my friend own a esteve, i think around RM4k the time.. so if compare 4k esteve vs 4k cuenca which better?
beside around 3k can get which model for cuence? 70R?
any good recommand within this range, now saving money hope can get a nice guitar in future.
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Yep beginners are definitely welcomed ^^ Thats the whole purpose of it actually. To expose young beginners and to share knowledge and playing styles as well as to memupuk perpaduan pemain gitar klasikal xDD

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lol... apa ni ryuuga? LYN's classical guitar contituition?

maybe u can pick out a few simple duet piece for us la.. then we can start from there

Subang got 3c meh? i tot got 3k sports complex only?
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heh. My concept or a tip to everyone:
You have to love and enjoy your music before you want others to enjoy it. If you don't enjoy your music, then you cant expect others to enjoy it ^^. So its okay to play until you are satisfied. And for every time you play, set the limit a little bit higher than what you could achieve before that. Music is about self satisfactory and self improvement ^^


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I'll let u know something....of coz in order to play good u muz enjoy the music...but when u meet up ppl with professional view they will mostly pin point technical parts n some how i felt that they r neglecting the music itself...so still back to the beginning lo...as long u enjoy playing it...it's good music...
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I'll let u know something....of coz in order to play good u muz enjoy the music...but when u meet up ppl with professional view they will mostly pin point technical parts n some how i felt that they r neglecting the music itself...so still back to the beginning lo...as long u enjoy playing it...it's  good music...
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I strongly agree.. by the way . where is 3C ?? haha.. can meet up somewhere in the middle ? like SS2 or something coz im staying at Kepong.

Simple duet will be good.. or everyone play Romanza together.. also very stunning. smile.gif


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jam for classical song? so beginning level also can join ah? smile.gif


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my friend own a esteve, i think around RM4k the time.. so if compare 4k esteve vs 4k cuenca which better?
beside around 3k can get which model for cuence? 70R?
any good recommand within this range, now saving money hope can get a nice guitar in future.
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Try out both for yourselve.. see which tone u like smile.gif . 3K can only get a 60R.

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i oso dunno where is 3C...anyhow..i hope is somewhere indoor...like small hall...studio or sumthing like that....but if go jamming studio like one kind la....go there play classical guitar..
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i oso dunno where is 3C...anyhow..i hope is somewhere indoor...like small hall...studio or sumthing like that....but if go jamming studio like one kind la....go there play classical guitar..
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shop owner:" how long u want to use the studio?"

reevex:"1 hour"

shop owner:" ok, which equidment u want to use? aditional amplifier will be charge extra"

reevex:" none...."

shop owner:" then u go in there do what??"

reevex:" play classical guitar."

shop owner:" is this some kind of a joke???"
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shop owner:" how long u want to use the studio?"

reevex:"1 hour"

shop owner:" ok, which equidment u want to use? aditional amplifier will be charge extra"

reevex:" none...."

shop owner:" then u go in there do what??"

reevex:" play classical guitar."

shop owner:" is this some kind of a joke???"
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shop owner:" how long u want to use the studio?"

reevex:"1 hour"

shop owner:" ok, which equidment u want to use? aditional amplifier will be charge extra"

reevex:" none...."

shop owner:" then u go in there do what??"

reevex:" play classical guitar."

shop owner:" is this some kind of a joke???"
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this funny .. hahaha.. biggrin.gif

so if really wan go for jam, maybe can pick some song first before we go can go through at home..
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no nid pick song la...simply play can edi lo...wahaha...(practice sight playing ma)...
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ongpohheng, whats wrong with that? ppl book studios for dances and stuff too. whats wrong gathering to play some acoustic?
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ongpohheng, whats wrong with that? ppl book studios for dances and stuff too. whats wrong gathering to play some acoustic?
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no la. just joke joke only^^

I also want join but me too young and i live too far from u guysT.T
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I just bought a acoustic guitar at Mydin RM40 only,woot,the sound just same like normal acoustic guitar..

sry im noob and i cant menilai these2 things biggrin.gif
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whoa, RM40 that's something!!

wait, Mydin got sell acoustics? - rclxub.gif

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I just bought a acoustic guitar at Mydin RM40 only,woot,the sound just same like normal acoustic guitar..

sry im noob and i cant menilai these2 things biggrin.gif
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good choice man. If you lose interest, just dump that guitar away. I know a lot of friends who buy cun cun guitar lose interest then give me their guitar rclxms.gif
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whoa, RM40 that's something!!

wait, Mydin got sell acoustics? - rclxub.gif
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good choice man. If you lose interest, just dump that guitar away. I know a lot of friends who buy cun cun guitar lose interest then give me their guitar  rclxms.gif
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wah? so good.. give me ur spare guitars la^^ur friends all so good
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aiseh, sight reading i sure die leh.. i must memorize otherwise i play like snail...
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i oso dunno where is 3C...anyhow..i hope is somewhere indoor...like small hall...studio or sumthing like that....but if go jamming studio like one kind la....go there play classical guitar..
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3C is near pyramid there, its an unknown and look like abandoned huge green building but memang got people one hahaha
Inside got rooms for dancing practices, it echoes very well so we can play our classicals/acoustics there.

We decide the place first la, then we gather the people and choose the piece and then only decide time and date ok?

QUOTE(blademaster @ Nov 17 2007, 08:18 PM)
good choice man. If you lose interest, just dump that guitar away. I know a lot of friends who buy cun cun guitar lose interest then give me their guitar  rclxms.gif
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I agree lol. Its good to start with a cheap guitar, but if you feel like you can go on learning, it would be better to get a decent priced one ^^
Dude, next time your friend gives you a good guitar sell to me la haha


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ok, then we gather less ppl first, since this is first time.. pair by pair or 3 by 3, so i think 6 ppl would be best..

I ll open up a thread..
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i learned classical guitar for 4 years. Just passed my yamaha grade 6 this year. I'll be going to teach at yamaha school next month. I'm planning to buy a decent guitar. I've been using a cheap hofma guitar since i started to play guitar. Now I need to upgrade my guitar to a better one. My teacher want to sell his 3 year-old 2nd hand yamaha 201s (including case) for RM1200. I might also get offer price for yamaha guitar since I teach in yamaha school. I've heard of spain guitars such as alhambra, madrigal, admira are better than yamaha. But my budget is not much, about RM1200-1500 only.
Guys, I need your advice and recommendation on which guitar is suitable for me and which shop can offer good price. Thanks.
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which branch u teaching??i oso passed my grade 6 this yr...
juz finish my GTTP few weeks back...

take ur teacher's 201s lo...it's a good deal....

*anyway...who's ur teacher??

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i learned classical guitar for 4 years. Just passed my yamaha grade 6 this year. I'll be going to teach at yamaha school next month. I'm planning to buy a decent guitar. I've been using a cheap hofma guitar since i started to play guitar. Now I need to upgrade my guitar to a better one. My teacher want to sell his 3 year-old 2nd hand yamaha 201s (including case) for RM1200. I might also get offer price for yamaha guitar since I teach in yamaha school. I've heard of spain guitars such as alhambra, madrigal, admira are better than yamaha. But my budget is not much, about RM1200-1500 only.
Guys, I need your advice and recommendation on which guitar is suitable for me and which shop can offer good price. Thanks.
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er.. u need to change guitar very urgent? if not my opinion is to save a bit more money to get a better guitar(for long term investment), if not u buy the 201s after few year u might need to change guitar again liao due to u skills improve again..
coz me also use cheap guitar now n wait for next good change.
p.s interest join for classical jam not? tongue.gif
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I will be teaching at IOI mall on weekend. Went for an interview yesterday. The GM at IOI yamaha is a good classical guitarist. I didn't know that I got so many wrong technique until that day, he spotted my technique problems. Sigh..I played it wrong for 4 years and my teacher didn't correct my mistakes.

It's not urgent for changing guitar, i'm just looking for guitar that fit my budget(not more than RM1500). And I don't think to buy my teacher's 2nd hand 201s. I prefer a brand new guitar.

Yeah, i'm interested to join for classical jam.
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QUOTE(~ ViViaN ~ @ Nov 18 2007, 02:27 PM)
I will be teaching at IOI mall on weekend. Went for an interview yesterday. The GM at IOI yamaha is a good classical guitarist. I didn't know that I got so many wrong technique until that day, he spotted my technique problems. Sigh..I played it wrong for 4 years and my teacher didn't correct my mistakes.

It's not urgent for changing guitar, i'm just looking for guitar that fit my budget(not more than RM1500). And I don't think to buy my teacher's 2nd hand 201s. I prefer a brand new guitar.

Yeah, i'm interested to join for classical jam.
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IOI..? i staying puchong also..haha, so u not more learning with u 4 year teacher?
wht i say that because before i have a friend also buy a RM1k++ guitar but end up still not good enough for him.but here have lot 'si fu' , maybe they can introduce u a nice guitar.
so i think u have to go to classical jam topic to sign up u name..

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QUOTE(~ ViViaN ~ @ Nov 18 2007, 02:27 PM)
I will be teaching at IOI mall on weekend. Went for an interview yesterday. The GM at IOI yamaha is a good classical guitarist. I didn't know that I got so many wrong technique until that day, he spotted my technique problems. Sigh..I played it wrong for 4 years and my teacher didn't correct my mistakes.

It's not urgent for changing guitar, i'm just looking for guitar that fit my budget(not more than RM1500). And I don't think to buy my teacher's 2nd hand 201s. I prefer a brand new guitar.

Yeah, i'm interested to join for classical jam.
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LOL...who's ur teacher??
no teacher can teach their student play perfectly la....thats y...as a student,we have to attend more seminar masterclass,play with other musicians,learn from other ppl...that's the only way to improve...

that's y we try to organise the classical jam thingy so all of us can learn something from each other...since now yamaha term holiday...come join us lo...
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@ReeveX Not everybody free like you to attend masterclasses bro XPP I also want to go, but what to do? Studies always get in the way mad.gif
I'm furious at the government for making me sit SPM when i couldve spent my time practicing and achieving something far bigger vmad.gif

@Vivian go sign up in the classical jam thread gogogo only left one more space!!
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lol...it depends wat u take as ur priority....even when i stpm i still go for my guitar classes...
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Went to Guitar Collection Mid Valley looking for spanish guitar.
The guy showed me the Admira Maria and Alhambra 2C. Anybody here using these models? Btw, my friend wanna sell Cuenca 30. Mind giving me reviews about the guitars or others that u recommend?

ReeveX & chyap99,
My guitar teacher is called Chris. I have stopped the private lesson with him. i have no money to continue. Sigh.. Anyway, I won't stop playing. and i'll be going for yamaha training. Need to polish my techniques.


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oo...but the yamaha training will be on next year wor....
this yr intake over edi lo....infact i juz finish the training few weeks back...

ur teacher selling 201s rite...grap it lo...it's a good deal...
cuenca actually oem guitars to alhambra...so basically their guitar is quite similiar....

for rm1500 budget u can always try esteve....very good guitars....
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Well, i would advise against buying in guitar collection.. most of their stuff are overpriced... but then again, there isnt much choices in KL to being with..
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lol....depends who u buy from lo....
if u know the boss then u can get very go deals....
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icic,
i find that even admira there wasnt well priced.. abit expensive compared to some shops i ve seen imo..

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yeaa.. they still over priced.
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lol...if u find it expensive u can always try esteve lo...very good handcrafted spanish guitar...i know where to buy other than mahogany oso....hehe...

actually i quite like buying stuffs from guitar collection HQ...coz i know the boss...hahaha...
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haha urs is different case, if u know them its ok, u ll get good price, if you dunno them, u are just being overcharged, heck even strings cost more there.

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QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ Nov 19 2007, 10:18 AM)
lol...if u find it expensive u can always try esteve lo...very good handcrafted spanish guitar...i know where to buy other than mahogany oso....hehe...

actually i quite like buying stuffs from guitar collection HQ...coz i know the boss...hahaha...
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yup, agree esteve should be no bad.. go try see..
as i know some senior yamaha teacher have 'way' to get guitar, maybe will cheaper?
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lol...u know the way....i know the person....wahaha...he's in penang...
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lol...u know the way....i know the person....wahaha...he's in penang...
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i dun know the 'way' la, just hearppl say only, then u can introduce to vivian lo.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ Nov 19 2007, 12:27 PM)
lol...u know the way....i know the person....wahaha...he's in penang...
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Will consider esteve as u guys recommended, which place selling it? Wanna go and have a look.
When the person will be coming to KL?
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QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ Nov 19 2007, 12:15 AM)
lol...it depends wat u take as ur priority....even when i stpm i still go for my guitar classes...
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I still go for my guitar classes tongue.gif my mentor jokingly kicked me away "Eh why are you here? SPM la! go back study!! hahaha tak takut mati la this fella" lol
My music is always my priority =P
I just meant my practice time is lessened because i have to waste time studying. yes WASTE. Its a big waste cause im not gonna need any of these anyways.

QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Nov 19 2007, 02:48 AM)
Well, i would advise against buying in guitar collection..  most of their stuff are  overpriced... but then again, there isnt much choices in KL to being with..
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Seconded for win. And they don't really have a wide collection =/
I've been to japan guitar shops... when you're there, you go WOOOOW there are tens of guitar shelves and one shelf has easily 100 guitars!! The variety is endless ranging from yamaha to jackson (didnt check got kapok onot haha)
Totally incomparable to msian guitar "galleries"
Same goes for bookstores, departmental stores and cd shops. Seriously dudes if you got a chance, i recommend you see other countrys' guitar gallerias. You won't be disappointed, Furthermore, the price is cheaper, unlike the conmans in guitar collections xP

But I usually wait for my mentor to import guitars and get them from him at discounted price haha. Okay he doesnt exactly imports them, perhaps he knows people who do lol Either way i get discounted price guitars whistling.gif

Esteves are good btw, its considerably cheap and a decent guitar
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Will consider esteve as u guys recommended, which place selling it? Wanna go and have a look.
When the person will be coming to KL?
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he opens a shop in penang...u can try the guitars in mahogany...then remember which model u like...u'll have to order from penang....
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anyone got any free website to download classical music scores?
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anyone got any free website to download classical music scores?
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donno, i always use ultimate-guitar.com
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donno, i always use ultimate-guitar.com
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This is ur last stop.
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Its totally in chinese dude... I can't read it for nuts xD (blardy banana here)

Try classtab.org
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QUOTE(Ryuuga @ Nov 20 2007, 07:09 PM)
Its totally in chinese dude... I can't read it for nuts xD (blardy banana here)

Try classtab.org
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you can search classical or any piece of english songs there.. that page contains GTP files and others file format.

your classtab is all in TAB lehh pal. i dont know how to read tab and never learn in my class before. hehe.
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>.> Im amazed... Usually people dont' know how to read notes..
Tabs easy la bro

E ----------------------0--
B ----------------------1--
G---------------------- 0---
D --------------------- 2---
A-----------0--2-------3---
E---0---3--------------0---

The topmost line is the first string, just pretend you're looking directly at your fretboard from where you hold the guitar =)
Numbers represent the fret you should play on that particular string
Numbers in a straight line up to down means its a chord
Simple isnt it? ^^ =)
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The disadvantage of guitar tabs:
it doesn't tell you how long you should play each note. You need to listen to a recording of the music while you use your ear to pick up on the rhythm and timing.
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actually there is tabs that tells that how long the note should be played...therefore i like playing together with note n tabs so the the position of the note can be easily found by using tabs n without losing out the espressions from the notes...
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if not mistaken tabs has longer history then the notes.

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QUOTE(~ ViViaN ~ @ Nov 22 2007, 02:22 AM)
The disadvantage of guitar tabs:
it doesn't tell you how long you should play each note. You need to listen to a recording of the music while you use your ear to pick up on the rhythm and timing.
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i was never really good at timing myself (slowly improving now)
Ever since piano, i played by listening to how my teacher play, feel it and improvise on my own. If you just throw me a piece out of thin air, it most likely would sound like crap when i play it xD
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaHaRUPfKok&feature=related
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You guys listen to Rodrigo y Gabriela? They play a really interesting  latin/mexican style of music with classical guitars in pairs.
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i wonder if they use customised classicals with much narrower string spacing?

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Dec 15 2007, 02:03 PM)
yea, listening to their version of Orion now.

i wonder if they use customised classicals with much narrower string spacing?
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They use this. Not surer if they've narrower spacing though, what make you think of that?


Added on December 16, 2007, 10:33 pm"650mm scale length, this pair have narrower than standard neck width and low action to facilitate the intricate ethnic metal of Rodrigo y Gabriela..."

apparently it's true!

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They use this. Not surer if they've narrower spacing though, what make you think of that?


Added on December 16, 2007, 10:33 pm"650mm scale length, this pair have narrower than standard neck width and low action to facilitate the intricate ethnic metal of Rodrigo y Gabriela..."

apparently it's true!
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cos i got classicals...and its not easy to bang away at power chords with the ease they do.
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Acoustic guitar players, have anyone try the D'Addario EXP strings?
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never tried them. but one thing's for sure, they are EXPensive wink.gif
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QUOTE(SweetTooth @ Dec 21 2007, 12:42 AM)
never tried them. but one thing's for sure, they are EXPensive wink.gif
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Added: All the time before this I used to buy guitar strings worth around RM20, so would like to try something new.

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Acoustic guitar players, have anyone try the D'Addario EXP strings?
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Interesting.. where do you get them? My acoustic strings kaput edi. Need to change new ones soon.. >_>
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QUOTE(Ryuuga @ Dec 21 2007, 01:25 AM)
Interesting.. where do you get them? My acoustic strings kaput edi. Need to change new ones soon.. >_>
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he is danlion1 from this forum. Contact him:

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QUOTE(Cello @ Dec 21 2007, 01:29 AM)
Most of the stores I have been, they do not have EXP strings at all. So I have asked one of mine friend to bring it in,
he is danlion1 from this forum. Contact him:

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Thx! i'll try to contact him ^^

BTW, does anyone else have problems with bar chords on their acoustic? I'm having a hard time barring cause the strings and the fret is too high... It doesnt happen on my classical and obviously doesnt happen on me electric.. Only acoustic is too high =/
im using a cheap yamaha F-310CS(my first guitar biggrin.gif )

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I have one too. Is it because of the string tension? For that you'll need some time getting used to it. Or else you might need a setup. smile.gif

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I have one too. Is it because of the string tension? For that you'll need some time getting used to it. Or else you might need a setup. smile.gif
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I dunno!! >_< I'm having a hard time trying to play depapepe with all those barr chords =/
Maybe its that white thingy at the start of the fretboard(the one holding the strings in between the tuning board and the first fret, what was it called again...) its too high? >_> I should get a scaler or sand paper to shorten it xDD
Nothing to do with the tension thats for sure >_> any looser and i might not be able to play it =/

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Now that you mentioned it, yeah I think mine one are quite hard to fret the full F chord too. For me I think the nut length is a bit too thin, dont know if it contributes to it though. I remember when I got the guitar it was strung with a set of .012!! Feel like freaking rods on my fingers. sleep.gif I still don't use 012 nowadays. I have weak finger tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Ryuuga @ Dec 24 2007, 12:33 AM)
I dunno!! >_< I'm having a hard time trying to play depapepe with all those barr chords =/
Maybe its that white thingy at the start of the fretboard(the one holding the strings in between the tuning board and the first fret, what was it called again...) its too high? >_> I should get a scaler or sand paper to shorten it xDD
Nothing to do with the tension thats for sure >_> any looser and i might not be able to play it =/
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Well, same here. Basically I just practice, keep holding it. Most of the guitars out there are like. Now I can press the full F chord anytime without any problems. It is the matter of time. smile.gif

The worst part of this story is not my guitar playing, it is bass. Imagine thicker strings.
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pressing bar chords on acoustic takes practise. i can play bar chord using kapok. it's all due to the finger strength, and to improve it, play mpre, practice more.
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finger strength is one thing.
having proper technique makes it easier to barre.
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hmm...i wonder y u guys like lower tension strings....i'm using .012 - .056 gauge,coz my guitar are setup for low action...so using low tension strings will coz alot buzzing...EXP are great strings,Elixir would be great too,but i never like Cleartone,very expensive and not nice too play...

as for barre chord,try not to put too much pressure on the thumb,try to be more relax,hope it helps...
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all the taiko and tai ka jeh here,

i had been playing accoustic for about 1 year. i am using cheap guitar never heard the brand be4(baught for about RM270). now i only know chords and some strumming patterns and smooth at switching in between most popular chords.

think of upgrade but i only got RM600 the most. should i change ? any advise ?

my problem with my current guitar is just that the string is high from fret. make me hard to play barr chord. so what do u guys think ?tqtq
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all the taiko and tai ka jeh here, 

i had been playing accoustic for about 1 year. i am using cheap guitar never heard the brand be4(baught for about RM270). now i only know chords and some strumming patterns and smooth at switching in between most popular chords.

think of upgrade but i only got RM600 the most. should i change ? any advise ? 

my problem with my current guitar is just that the string is high from fret. make me hard to play barr chord.  so what do u guys think ?tqtq
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Can try to look for Yamaha or Santa Cruz brands around that budget.

What you did to the guitar that the strings are gone far away from the fret?
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you might wanna have a look at yamaha f-310... the sound is pretty decent...
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QUOTE(Cello @ Dec 25 2007, 06:00 AM)
Can try to look for Yamaha or Santa Cruz brands around that budget.

What you did to the guitar that the strings are gone far away from the fret?
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ooh. what i meant is what so called "high action" the string is high from fret, hard to press.

where can i get those guitar u mention ? santa cruz ? tqtq.


Added on December 25, 2007, 11:37 amactually the sound of my guitar i am ok with it. just the high action is annoying

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where can i get those guitar u mention ? santa cruz ? tqtq.
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If you are not satisfied with the action, go get a setup by a pro. You dont have to buy a new guitar if you dont want to.
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QUOTE(Cello @ Dec 25 2007, 06:55 PM)
You can get it at Bentley music. For Yamaha, get it at Yamaha shop.
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can you give me the address? or roughly where is it ? thx for the info.


btw, this afternoon went to midvalley, rphday music store or what forgot the name.. that guy show me some accoustic brand "Martinez" . he showed me 1 those thin type accoustic with fibreglass back. built in pick up with euqalizer selling RM560. that guy told me wont get wrong go with that since it is cheap for that type of guitar. he said those thin type guitar with fibreglass back other brand need RM1k ++ onwards only can get. is it true ?

he claimed that "Martinez" is still new brand so they put cheaper price to promote their guitar 1st. My main usage is just play by my own inside my room or 2 or 3 frens playing only. never go jamming also. which type should i buy ??? those conventional totally wood type ? or thos thin type with fibreglass back ? icon_question.gif tqttq.


yamaha just now when to Alamanda and check out. the accoustic that i can only afford there is F310 only costs around RM310++ (package). the rests exceed RM1k. damn. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Lefty @ Dec 26 2007, 12:25 AM)
can you give me the address? or roughly where is it ? thx for the info. 
btw, this afternoon went to midvalley, rphday music store or what forgot the name..  that guy show me some accoustic brand "Martinez" . he showed me 1 those thin type accoustic with fibreglass back. built in pick up with  euqalizer selling RM560. that guy told me wont get wrong go with that since it is cheap for that type of guitar. he said those thin type guitar with fibreglass back other brand need RM1k ++ onwards only can get. is it true ? 

he claimed that "Martinez" is still new brand so they put cheaper price to promote their guitar 1st.  My main usage is just play by my own inside my room or 2 or 3 frens playing only. never go jamming also. which type should i buy ???  those conventional totally wood type ? or thos thin type with fibreglass back ? icon_question.gif  tqttq.
yamaha just now when to Alamanda and check out. the accoustic that i can only afford there is F310 only costs around RM310++ (package). the rests exceed RM1k. damn. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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It is at Jalan Bukit Bintang, KL. Official website: http://www.bentleymusic.com/

Martinez, this brand is good. I would say it is equivalent to Santa Cruz that I mention. About fibreglass, I have never heard of it before.

Some Yamaha stores does not have their full range products.

I suggest that you get the Martinez.
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I wont go for the Martinez at that price. I think before you buy anything yet you gotta determine if the preamps are really necessary, since you said you are not jamming or performing with it. A good acoustics with plug ins are certainly more expensive. I'll go for the F310 if I were you.

"he said those thin type guitar with fibreglass back other brand need RM1k ++ onwards only can get. is it true ? "

...that's some bullcrap he told you. Ovation, yes, "other brand" --> too general.
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thx for both of u. now i more rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif






how about the guitAR selling over here?



http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=597788&hl=



is it ok to go for / if dun feel like comment here can pm me?
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what's your budget? and what kind of songs you play?
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thx for both of u. now i more rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
how about the guitAR selling over here?
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=597788&hl=
is it ok to go for / if dun feel like comment here can pm me?
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wats ur budget? below RM1k?
if can top-up a little more i feel this one is better.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/593201
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my budget is around 600-700 or a bit more. i play what song ? mostly chinese songs and pop song.
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my budget is around 600-700 or a bit more.    i play what song ?  mostly chinese songs and pop song.
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like that just go for the yamaha that so many recommended already.
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now i felt like not changing yet after surveyed a few shops and a few opinion from sifus here. plan to keep up more budget and as well boast up my guitar skill more. that is the most important thing rather than guitar for me now . hand is always ur best guitar !!! train my hand !!! aarrgh . arigato meena~~
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Hello guys and girls!

I'm sorry I came into this discussion late. I hear people mentioning about Esteve guitars? Yes they are beautiful guitars and well worth the price. There is a new shop in Penang right now and they are the new sole agent for Esteve. It is no longer Mahogany.

You can get classical guitars in this new shop at a good price, as well as strings. The date of manufacture is usually printed on the label inside the guitar for Esteves, so make sure you're not getting a guitar made 7 years ago when you buy one.

Place is called Classic Guitar Studio, and the shop is in Midlands Park Centre in Pulau Tikus. Give it a try!

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what happen to the classical and acoustic kaki here?
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we play acoustic and classic guitar using hands not kaki =x

I own a big baby with pickup. biggrin.gif

nice to meet u all here.

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lol i own a yamaha cpx-8 with pickup. Nice to meet you too. smile.gif

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ok so i did a cover of a song lately... tell me what you think LINK sweat.gif
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nice! When my first sight on this series, I don't really like it. Since after my family kinda stick with this show, eventually it become one of my "daily routine" too. haha. It's a nice show too in my opinion. Why dont you post your tab here. tongue.gif
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i love that show too. I'm glued to the tv when the time comes. I don't have the tabs. smile.gif
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oh no! i wan teh tab =x. i failed in ear training = ="" and im just a beginner player.

off topic: you're kedahan huh? looks like we are from the same kampung xD
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QUOTE(strife01 @ May 25 2008, 08:29 PM)
we play acoustic and classic guitar using hands not kaki =x

I own a big baby with pickup. biggrin.gif

nice to meet u all here.
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what pickups did u get?
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i just visited edward of freeman guitars today.
hes bringing in some MIC guitar brand.
i tried out a jumbo, full solid, and sounds good also.
sells for RM1.4k with a good quality hardcase, pretty good deal.
definitely better than the over-priced laminated epiphone J-200 indo made and no case either...!@$^T@#%!@#!@$~!@#!@.
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QUOTE(strife01 @ May 26 2008, 11:15 PM)
oh no! i wan teh tab =x. i failed in ear training = ="" and im just a beginner player.

off topic: you're kedahan huh? looks like we are from the same kampung xD
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will chords do? sweat.gif I don't really know how to tab it. Or maybe you can teach me how to tab? By the way, I don't know if I got it right. blush.gif You're from Kedah too? Which part? laugh.gif
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will chords do?  sweat.gif  I don't really know how to tab it. Or maybe you can teach me how to tab? By the way, I don't know if I got it right.  blush.gif You're from Kedah too? Which part?  laugh.gif
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I'm from farmer's river. Let me get the chords on word then i upload it here for you ya. Give me a few minutes. smile.gif
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Here it is...

By the way, do you know chinese? Do you know how to fit the chords to the chinese lyrics?

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I'm from farmer's river. Let me get the chords on word then i upload it here for you ya. Give me a few minutes. smile.gif
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I'm from farmer's river. Let me get the chords on word then i upload it here for you ya. Give me a few minutes. smile.gif
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thank you!  notworthy.gif  where is farmer's river btw. o_o oh yea i do know chinese.
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Do you think you can fit in the chinese characters and then resend me the theme song? sweat.gif


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wah, place where all that black metal controversy started a few yrs ago tongue.gif
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do you hav the lyrics in chinese? lemme find the lyrics first. And i warn you first that im not really good in chinese tongue.gif
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ah i don't have it. No worries, i don't know chinese at all. Hahahha laugh.gif
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i found the lyrics already but i dont know how to fit in tongue.gif. you wanna try? =x

maybe the video in youtube can help you as I copied from there tongue.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUmrAPnwo60


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ok i will give it a try. Thanks man! thumbup.gif
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Ok i think this should be it. Roughly-lah. I've remove the previous attachment. smile.gif




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Haha... ok, i am not good in singing. I'm satisfy enough just by playing guitar and ONLY sing when there's no one around smile.gif
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ah well, i can't sing too. I'm satisfied with just being able to play. So what song are you learning currently?
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the rose - emi fujita tongue.gif it's a nice song. i love it even though it's kinda "emo" song. =x

http://www.imeem.com/ploffy/music/7849HruJ...ujita_the_rose/

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wow a very beautiful song. Emo also nevermind. Hahahha I'm a fan of emo songs. smile.gif
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reporting in...
still a newbie...
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sweat.gif my library is fulled with this kinda song, but they always make me down. hahaha... this song is one of em. every time when i tried to sing the lyrics, tears always happened to flood my eyes. haha... laugh.gif

@ littlemen, hi i am newbie too rolleyes.gif

editted: out to tesco =x

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Hello!

I have just learnt Yesterday from The Beatles.
Very nice song. smile.gif
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hi littleman. smile.gif We are all newbies. Is that your hand in your picture?
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it's his fingers biggrin.gif
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what about you strife01? Don't want to show your fingers too? biggrin.gif
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Nope nope, haha...
just edited a picture I found on the net..
Maybe next time I'll snap my own finger.. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(BlueSilver @ May 28 2008, 01:00 AM)
what about you strife01? Don't want to show your fingers too? biggrin.gif
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LOL laugh.gif maybe we all should post some pics of our fingers smile.gif
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QUOTE(BlueSilver @ May 28 2008, 02:22 PM)
LOL laugh.gif maybe we all should post some pics of our fingers smile.gif
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me not. haha... laugh.gif
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erm..not to interrupt anything here but do you guys have any experiences in installing acoustic pickups? Also, what is the recommended top mounted soundhole acoustic pickup that is available here? thanks.
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erm..not to interrupt anything here but do you guys have any experiences in installing acoustic pickups? Also, what is the recommended top mounted soundhole acoustic pickup that is available here? thanks.
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we do not own this thread. tongue.gif that means you're not interrupting. feel free to ask anything here, i have no comment on pickups as i need recommendation from others too. haha...
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erm..not to interrupt anything here but do you guys have any experiences in installing acoustic pickups? Also, what is the recommended top mounted soundhole acoustic pickup that is available here? thanks.
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i doubt anyone here has, heck i myself dont even own a proper acoustic tongue.gif
but top mounted soundhole, i would go for seymour duncan...of cos only available at bentwtfley.

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fishman. there are a few at JS music. i just bought one, for the sake of one gig, which im only playing 3 songs on acoustic (and the rest on electric). theyre cheaper than dimarzio acoustic pickups but sound alot better too. might let it go after my gig, if ure interested.
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QUOTE(littleman @ May 28 2008, 04:21 PM)
You got DSLR!  laugh.gif
Do you guys keep fingernails?
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what picks do you guys use.
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wow...this thread suddenly revived liao....anyway....can anyone guide me how to do simple recording of acoustic guitar....?
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a mic will do i think. or u can install a pickups xD
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I only have classical guitar, don't have a pick.. So I play fingerstyle..smile.gif
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i don't use a pick. sad.gif Not so good with using the pick.


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QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ May 28 2008, 10:48 PM)
wow...this thread suddenly revived liao....anyway....can anyone guide me how to do simple recording of acoustic guitar....?
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My guitar already has a pickup. So i would plugin to the microcube and from there to my laptop mic-in. So far so good. thumbup.gif

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i don't use a pick. sad.gif Not so good with using the pick.
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Yeah i use finger, like you fingerstyle. wink.gif I find it troublesome to keep fingernails cos mine breaks easily so i'll just settle without it.
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haha... my fingerstyle need a lot of practice because I am a lefty playing as a righty laugh.gif So i normally strum...
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ooo u're a lefty. Why didn't you learn it the other way round?
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sweat.gif righty is more flexibly because almost everywhere you go, you can just pick up a normal guitar and start to play. laugh.gif for those who play as a lefty have to seek for the unique guitar then only can play. that's the reason why.
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oh that's true. does that mean u have more problems with your right hand rather than your left hand? I mean there's not much of a problem with switching chords but maybe a problem plucking the strings?
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so far so good. After a long practice, we will automatically get used to it. So, i just put a little more effort in struming/picking.
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that's good to know. smile.gif where do you stay strife01? Maybe we can jam together in the future? smile.gif
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Sure if got chance, I am staying in Kodiang currently sweat.gif Hopefully yo know where is it. There is a jamming studio in Jitra but i never try it before. lol...
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Any1 knows where to get good mics...shure...sennheiser??if i use a mic to record my guitar playing...do i need an external soundcard or a preamp sort of things??

Oh yea....if ur nails are weak....u can try buffing it...it will improve ur nail condition slowly
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strife01: Where's Kodiang? sweat.gif

reevex: i think a shure mic is recommended however i haven't try it out myself. I use my microcube sort of as a preamp and i didn't use any external soundcard.

Can explain what's buffing?
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kodiang is in on the border btw kedah and perlis.
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oh i see. Are you a student or working? smile.gif
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student still rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(BlueSilver @ May 29 2008, 01:45 PM)
strife01: Where's Kodiang? sweat.gif

reevex: i think a shure mic is recommended however i haven't try it out myself. I use my microcube sort of as a preamp and i didn't use any external soundcard.

Can explain what's buffing?
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anyway buffing means sort of like file the surface of ur nails until it becomes shinny...u can go to any manicure shop n ask abt it.....the buffer can be bought at pharmacies n body shops...
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oh i think i did that before. Hmmm maybe i'll try it again. smile.gif thanks for explaining reevex. wink.gif
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Haha... I don't like to keep fingernails, they tend to attract dirts. Usually i cut it even the exposed length is less than 1mm. laugh.gif
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i have that habit too. Somehow i'm just used to keeping my nails short. smile.gif
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Can anyone recommend me a dreadnought acoustic guitar? My budget is around RM2000.
I'm quite interested in Freeman's dreadnought but the price is way above my budget. Thanks
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Can anyone recommend me a dreadnought acoustic guitar? My budget is around RM2000.
I'm quite interested in Freeman's dreadnought but the price is way above my budget. Thanks
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simon & patrick songsmith, RM1.5k b4 discount.
http://www.simonandpatrick.com/spsngsmith_...y07_acstgtr.pdf
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Wow... not bad for an all solids acoustic rclxms.gif
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hmm... looks interesting, may I know where does this guitar made from and why this guitar?

Forgive me as I'm quite picky when choosing guitars.
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QUOTE(jacksonyong @ May 30 2008, 02:56 AM)
hmm... looks interesting, may I know where does this guitar made from and why this guitar?

Forgive me as I'm quite picky when choosing guitars.
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there is a reason why i put that link there.
obviously u didnt read it.
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QUOTE(strife01 @ May 30 2008, 01:38 AM)
Haha... I don't like to keep fingernails, they tend to attract dirts. Usually i cut it even the exposed length is less than 1mm. laugh.gif
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lol...totally opposite from u....can't play without nails haha...
but maintaining ur nails is really alot of work....i averagely spend abt 2 hours every week juz to shaped my nails n buff it....lol

QUOTE(BlueSilver @ May 30 2008, 01:46 AM)
i have that habit too. Somehow i'm just used to keeping my nails short. smile.gif
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Hehe....juz like Tommy Emmanuel...play without nails

QUOTE(Everdying @ May 30 2008, 02:18 AM)
simon & patrick songsmith, RM1.5k b4 discount.
http://www.simonandpatrick.com/spsngsmith_...y07_acstgtr.pdf
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wow...that's very cheap for a full solid....

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QUOTE(jacksonyong @ May 30 2008, 02:56 AM)
hmm... looks interesting, may I know where does this guitar made from and why this guitar?

Forgive me as I'm quite picky when choosing guitars.
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it's from canada. I would strongly suggest you make a visit to all the guitar shops and try out their guitars until u satisfy.


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lol...totally opposite from u....can't play without nails haha...
but maintaining ur nails is really alot of work....i averagely spend abt 2 hours every week juz to shaped my nails n buff it....lol
Hehe....juz like Tommy Emmanuel...play without nails
wow...that's very cheap for a full solid....
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arh!!! I dont like to do those works... =x Somemore I play sports too when I am free. So no choice. sweat.gif

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no need la to keep nails. I'm so lazy to keep them. blush.gif
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any tips on keeping nails? and how to fully use it to get a nice sound especially when plucking.

soundcheck today i got someone to play my acoustic while i went out to hear from the house system. i'm impressed with my fishman pickups considering the price i paid for it. the string's character really came out nicely (so it means gotta stock up on more elixirs especially before shows).
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i think nail keeping methods differ for each guitarist, especilly when they are playing different styles.
for me, i just keep it slightly above my finger tips. so that i can actually make the plucking sound to be more ..."powerful"?, hard to explain... it is like short busts of sounds...like those jazzy type...
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QUOTE(LovesReborn @ Jun 3 2008, 02:25 PM)
i think nail keeping methods differ for each guitarist, especilly when they are playing different styles.
for me, i just keep it slightly above my finger tips. so that i can actually make the plucking sound to be more ..."powerful"?, hard to explain... it is like short busts of sounds...like those jazzy type...
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I am still new to guitars but each time i cut my nails i feel playing is alot different...maybe i'm still new blush.gif
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i love to use 0.50mm picks. o_o btw, gonna try out my new pickups tonite biggrin.gif

@echo, which pickups u used and what's your guitar model?
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Jun 3 2008, 02:27 AM)
any tips on keeping nails? and how to fully use it to get a nice sound especially when plucking.

soundcheck today i got someone to play my acoustic while i went out to hear from the house system. i'm impressed with my fishman pickups considering the price i paid for it. the string's character really came out nicely (so it means gotta stock up on more elixirs especially before shows).
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Cool....ur using big baby rite,actually i like elixir strings...the touch is nice,but new strings tend to be vey slippery,i wonder you've encounter this problem,so now i keep to dean markley alchemist or blue steel,sometimes will use d'addario exp too...

Hmm...i'm using fishman pickups too....rare earth blend...sounds superb especially i played some percussive thingy on it....

try buffing ur nails....it'll improve the nail's condition....but it's alot of work.... brows.gif

QUOTE(LovesReborn @ Jun 3 2008, 02:25 PM)
i think nail keeping methods differ for each guitarist, especilly when they are playing different styles.
for me, i just keep it slightly above my finger tips. so that i can actually make the plucking sound to be more ..."powerful"?, hard to explain... it is like short busts of sounds...like those jazzy type...
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yup...different ppl have different ideas of keeping nails....juz need to find the one method that's best for ourselves

QUOTE(Bigblock @ Jun 3 2008, 02:52 PM)
I am still new to guitars but each time i cut my nails i feel playing is alot different...maybe i'm still new blush.gif
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of coz lo....the touch is totally different...sound oso...some ppl can't play without nails(me)...some plays greatly without nails(Tommy Emmanuel)...lol
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whats buffing nails?

yeap big baby. fishman neo-d, very cheap, but kinda impressive for its price. have heard better pickups, but since i rarely perform with my acoustic, i wasnt willing to spend much on pickups (especially if its just one show and only a couple of songs on acoustic).

i didnt manage to use my pickups when i played an unplugged set on radio the other day. it was mic up. well, my big baby cut through the mix nicely.
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hey echobrainproject, how much did u get your fishman pickups for? I'm interested to get one. smile.gif
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Jun 4 2008, 01:28 AM)
whats buffing nails?

yeap big baby. fishman neo-d, very cheap, but kinda impressive for its price. have heard better pickups, but since i rarely perform with my acoustic, i wasnt willing to spend much on pickups (especially if its just one show and only a couple of songs on acoustic).

i didnt manage to use my pickups when i played an unplugged set on radio the other day. it was mic up. well, my big baby cut through the mix nicely.
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yup...i've heard neo-d is very good....it's a passive pickup rite....mine is a active version with a condeser mic.....

basically buffing nails is polish ur nails with a buffer until it become shinny... tongue.gif

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hey echobrainproject, how much did u get your fishman pickups for? I'm interested to get one. smile.gif
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anyone here knows where to get and whats the price range to expect for this one? http://www.michaelkellyguitars.com/acoustic_guitars.html
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QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ Jun 4 2008, 09:56 PM)
wah...ur cpx-8 2-way pickup system not good enough ar???
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i have another f310 which i love very much oh. So want to see how much is the fishman pickup. smile.gif
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QUOTE(BlueSilver @ Jun 6 2008, 03:15 PM)
i have another f310 which i love very much oh. So want to see how much is the fishman pickup. smile.gif
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got it at MYR$239
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QUOTE(Namqul @ Jun 6 2008, 02:45 PM)
anyone here knows where to get and whats the price range to expect for this one? http://www.michaelkellyguitars.com/acoustic_guitars.html
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shocking.gif adjustable neck.


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got it at MYR$239
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i just get a Fishman Matrix Infinity for my big baby. icon_rolleyes.gif It's like combination of NT1 and NT2 plus adjustable volume. Pretty nice thumbup.gif

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how much did that cost you?


Added on June 7, 2008, 11:04 pmi'm considering getting some mics of my own in to record my acoustic nicely. nothing beats a nicely mic'd acoustic

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Mic's acoustic is the best choice since it can amplify nylon and steel strings. I use it since my strings are nylon. Regardless, sounds more acoustic than using pickup with acoustic modeler.
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QUOTE(strife01 @ Jun 7 2008, 03:25 PM)
shocking.gif adjustable neck.
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yup. i was supprised too. seen any before?

QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Jun 7 2008, 11:04 PM)

Added on June 7, 2008, 11:04 pmi'm considering getting some mics of my own in to record my acoustic nicely. nothing beats a nicely mic'd acoustic
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what mic ur suggesting for this?
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Jun 7 2008, 11:04 PM)
how much did that cost you?


Added on June 7, 2008, 11:04 pmi'm considering getting some mics of my own in to record my acoustic nicely. nothing beats a nicely mic'd acoustic
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S$295.00 sweat.gif i love the bass boost effect and it's perfect for my big baby. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Jun 6 2008, 09:37 PM)
got it at MYR$239
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wats the easiest playing 12-string acoustic thats below rm1.5k?

i know there is a SX 12-string for RM300 in woh fatt...but that looks pretty bad...i would say its like a 1st generation SX tongue.gif
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how to know the acoustic is a good bargain?
sumone is selling a yamaha aoustic for 250
he bought it at 400
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Meet up the person and try the guitar. Check out the sound, and try to press the nut area, and the condition of the guitar.
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uhh i just played guitar for 2 ++ years
my ears are not good enuf to tell the sound are good or bad
any ideas?
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hmm ok...i just checked out the 12-string SX in woh fatt again.
this time its a better model, and still at RM300.

got a fina 12-string also, RM550 with built-in pickup/tuner.
solid top, mahogany back and sides.

very tempting.
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this thread is going to sink!!!


Added on June 12, 2008, 5:28 pm
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uhh i just played guitar for 2 ++ years
my ears are not good enuf to tell the sound are good or bad
any ideas?
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everdying, have u tested the fina? Hows the sound like? Rm500 is a good price for a solid top.
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everdying, have u tested the fina? Hows the sound like? Rm500 is a good price for a solid top.
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both the fina and sx were not in tune, so not sure how nice they sound...cant expect much anyway at that price.
but then a cheap 12-string can sometimes sound better than a 6-string thats way more expensive tongue.gif

also the fina had a much thicker neck, but still playable, pretty similar to a 50s gibson style neck with a wider fretboard.
the SX also had a graphtech nubone bridge, not sure of the nut.

i doubt the pickup in the fina is good anyway, but then i like the mahogany its made off.
http://www.finaguitar.com.tw/product/produ..._FD-802-12.html

the SX from what i checked on the site seems to be fully basswood.
http://www.sxguitarspain.com/new_page_2.htm

so think i might go check the fina properly again tomorrow.

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 12 2008, 10:19 PM)
both the fina and sx were not in tune, so not sure how nice they sound...cant expect much anyway at that price.
but then a cheap 12-string can sometimes sound better than a 6-string thats way more expensive tongue.gif

also the fina had a much thicker neck, but still playable, pretty similar to a 50s gibson style neck with a wider fretboard.
the SX also had a graphtech nubone bridge, not sure of the nut.

i doubt the pickup in the fina is good anyway, but then i like the mahogany its made off.
the SX from what i checked on the site seems to be fully basswood.

so think i might go check the fina properly again tomorrow.
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But knowing woh fatt, especially that auntie there, if i wanna try, they sure ask whether i m really buying or not. That really puts me off into trying one. Do they still have those korean or japan epi jazz box?
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u go layan the auntie for wat? u cant be that gatal rite tongue.gif
go look for any young guy there and ask.

korean semi-hollow...not sure din notice...there might be...cos they have a old korean epi LP double cutaway with p-90s also there...it has been discontinued for quite a few yrs already.

but if u want brand new semi-hollow, they are either china or indo made now.
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aww crap.. hope u dun mind checking the price for semi hollow for me, i wanna compare price abit, i m looking for those with double cutaway

hah, btw, i didnt go layan the auntie, i was looking around and the auntie approach me to ask wat i want. Then i just tell her, she keep pester me and ask if i m interested to buy it. I was like.. wtf...?? if i dun try how would i know?
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u go sweelee website and see how much they are.
so their converted price x 1.07 for GST and add on roughly RM200 and u have the rough price that u can get it here from sellers.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 12 2008, 10:41 PM)
u go sweelee website and see how much they are.
so their converted price x 1.07 for GST and add on roughly RM200 and u have the rough price that u can get it here from sellers.
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but swee lee doesnt have the koreans anymore rite? infact i think most of them doesnt have them already. I m just wondering if woh fatt has any old stock left. Heard there was a casino, but i wasnt interested in P-90s, dun wan another hum inducing guitar, had one is more than enough biggrin.gif

Anyway, back to acoustic, i see many people looking for beginner acoustic, and the same answer got repeated all the time the Yamaha F-3XX. Is there no other guitar?
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P-90s rule tongue.gif

beginner acoustic? dunno.
im only looking at 12-strings now.

the only 6-string acoustic thats somewhat affordable that i would recommend is simon & patrick songsmith but that sells at RM1.5k.

or get that norman that godslove is selling in garage sales for RM800.

i think the only reason why that yamaha F-310 sells is cos its called yamaha tongue.gif
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lol, i got fed up of hums when ever i turn up the gain. Wanna look for something with fat tone.

Whats the 12string for? Any Gas inducing motivations? tongue.gif

Well i tot they sell coz yamaha being known for reliability and consistency. I guess we should make a thread that says, beginner, get F-310 else kapok, nuff said and sticky it. Lol
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after i got this...
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the 6-string on it just faded away... tongue.gif
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shocking.gif arent they heavy? i cant imagine practicing with this for an hour. I will turn into hunchback of notre dam in no time.

Well i suppose u can split the guitar into two with a saw and sell the other half.. LOL biggrin.gif
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nah, i play all my guitars resting on left leg...tho not strictly classical style.
either way it basically forces u to sit up properly.
that way when u put on a strap also the guitar is in a more natural position that ur already used to sitting down.

but yes, it is friggin heavy...heavier than my gibson LP i once had...so definitely somewhere around 6kg...
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did u gig with it before?
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u must be mad.
the hardcase cannot fit in any car's boot cos its too long...in the backseat also it just fits in...plus it is damn heavy to carry around.

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lol... thts wat i m thinking... u bought a freaking unique guitar, but just wonder if you could actually gig with it.. i wonder how steve vai caries his love shaped guitar... Lol..

How much did you score it for?
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ppl like steve vai of cos dont carry their own guitars.
imagine if steve vai had to lug around all his amps on stage... tongue.gif
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hey guys....can anyone tell me where is the best yamaha branch to go around the klang valley...which displays the most range of the acoustic guitars....of course if big and nice,better lah....i jz wanna try out their whole range....thanks alot!...and wad is the range of farida acoustics like min & max? smile.gif
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i think the one in midvalley is quite well equiped. The manager is a very nice fella too.


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o_O what happened to the acoustic guitar thread? slowly dying off? haha
anyways, i need someone who has Kotaro Oshio music scores *hints ReeveX*
can *ahem*copy and send to me? xD
and i need someone to teach me techniques for You are the Hero @_@
currently learning Hard Rain for my performance in four weeks time @_@
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i fell in love with the ovation mick thompson sig =)
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i like ovations too.. but too bad, its abit too pricey

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Ok, just to get this thread up. I did a recording just last night. Erm... i'm not sure if I can post my blog url here but you can listen to my recording by clicking on the link below. smile.gif Comments are welcome.

Note: Please don't mind my chicken voice. blush.gif
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QUOTE(BlueSilver @ Aug 17 2008, 02:24 PM)
Ok, just to get this thread up. I did a recording just last night.  Erm... i'm not sure if I can post my blog url here but you can listen to my recording by clicking on the link below. smile.gif Comments are welcome.

Note: Please don't mind my chicken voice. blush.gif
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why so malu put the vocals so low in the mix? tongue.gif
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chicken voice ma, so put lower lor. Hahahhaha...
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QUOTE(BlueSilver @ Aug 17 2008, 02:24 PM)
Ok, just to get this thread up. I did a recording just last night.  Erm... i'm not sure if I can post my blog url here but you can listen to my recording by clicking on the link below. smile.gif Comments are welcome.

Note: Please don't mind my chicken voice. blush.gif
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Nice voice, but i think you need to transpose the song to a suitable key. Somehow it feels like you're singing off key... or maybe its the pronunciation >.<
I never got around learning how to record stuff... do you need an expensive microphone or something? or is there a specific program to do the recording (i only use Audacity for recording and maybe soundtrack pro for mixing hahaha) >.<
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eh, no not expensive mic. Just some cheapo mic and Soundforge. Ya maybe i'll do a higher version. Thanks for the comment Ryuuga. wink.gif
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I have an Ibanez MIJ 12 string guitar to let go if anyone's interested

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QUOTE(Ryuuga @ Aug 7 2008, 10:38 PM)
o_O what happened to the acoustic guitar thread? slowly dying off? haha
anyways, i need someone who has Kotaro Oshio music scores *hints ReeveX*
can *ahem*copy and send to me? xD
and i need someone to teach me techniques for You are the Hero @_@
currently learning Hard Rain for my performance in four weeks time @_@
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Whoa!! You perform oshio's song too?? yay!!

You are the hero, if you can use the "nail attack" technique, then there's no problem for you!
Hard rain for performance? I never tried that.. Plus I don't have a pickup so it's gonna sound terrible...

p.s : where are you performing? =P
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QUOTE(Karin @ Aug 19 2008, 05:47 PM)
Whoa!! You perform oshio's song too?? yay!!

You are the hero, if you can use the "nail attack" technique, then there's no problem for you!
Hard rain for performance? I never tried that.. Plus I don't have a pickup so it's gonna sound terrible...

p.s : where are you performing? =P
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college performance ler >.> friday performance at ICoM

btw, what do you mean by i perform kotaro oshio "TOO" >.< do you know anyone else that performs it outside other than reeveX? (im a beginner, just only started seriously learning kotaro oshio stuff) >.<
cause if you do, i wanna join too!! xD we can do DEPAPEPE duet =P i'm seriously looking for some outside performances to boost my technique and experience(not to mention some extra change) brows.gif
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oh hi guys...
i just bought a acoustic guitar from harmony @ uptown.
looks nice, inbuilt tuner, and a nice 3 band eq.
looks nice to me la...
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NEW! Thinline Acoustic/ Electric with Flame Maple Finish Top, Active Shadow LC-3 Pickup System. 3 band EQ + Volume control. DLX extended fretboard into the soundhole, rosewood fretboard and bridge, gloss finish, natural spruce top, mahogany back & sides. Multiple W/B/W/B/W body binding with back centre strip and single white Neck binding, diecast machine heads. D’Addario strings. No pickguard. *Colours Available: Tobbaco Sunburst (TSB), Red Sunburst (RSB) & Blue Sunburst (BSB)

Monterey guitar webpagehttp://www.montereyguitars.com/main_html.html

so that begins my new journey in to learning how to play guitar!

but i find that the strings have a rather high tension? how ?
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@procontavia : how much did u bought it?
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hmm. wondering, would a 12 string be very difficult to play?
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For lower tension, just change to lower gauge strings. Can try the .010 first. If high action is what you meant (strings far away from the frets), you need to file down the bridge saddle and/or nut, which is not a job for the inexperienced. Just bring it to a guitar tech. thumbup.gif
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lol. not string gauge. a 12 string guitar. sorry if i was not clear ><

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