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TristanX
post Apr 7 2017, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(roadie @ Apr 7 2017, 11:06 AM)
hi i need only a graphics card recommendation
1. STATE your budget : cheapest
2. STATE the parts that you wish to re-use: n/a
3. STATE your purpose : browser, ms office, movie (movie not often). i use 2 monitors - one with hdmi and the other dvi
4. STATE your intended purchase date : asap
5. STATE your preference : no brand preference. just need a card that doesnt need external power, and doesnt overheat. i dont do any gaming. thanks in advance
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Option 1:
Visit Garage Sales for second hand if you want dirt cheap ones.

Option 2:
Any RM100ish graphic card will do for a new one.

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post Apr 7 2017, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 7 2017, 11:16 AM)
Option 1:
Visit Garage Sales for second hand if you want dirt cheap ones.

Option 2:
Any RM100ish graphic card will do for a new one.
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thanks.
op1 i dont know enough about graphics card etc to know if im getting an ok unit. rather buy new.
op2 sounds like my best bet coz i dont want to spend over rm200. can u give me a model name so i can get one from digi mall now.
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post Apr 7 2017, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(roadie @ Apr 7 2017, 11:33 AM)
thanks.
op1 i dont know enough about graphics card etc to know if im getting an ok unit. rather buy new.
op2 sounds like my best bet coz i dont want to spend over rm200. can u give me a model name so i can get one from digi mall now.
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Sapphire R5 230 at RM151 from C-Zone

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post Apr 7 2017, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 6 2017, 07:23 PM)
You need to upgrade your GPU if you want more performance for 4k gaming. The rest is fine.
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hi thanks very much for suggestion, after asking a few people i think i will just upgrade parts [gpu & ssd] as cpu [4790 to 7700 & ddr4] wont impact much at 4k

but if u dont mind can give me a build budget around 8~9k [rig only], just want to know what i can get for that price. i live at klang and thrs literally no good pc shop here, and i will have to go kl to quote price and such doh.gif
will use the format u guys suggest, thanks very much smile.gif

[Budget] 8~9k [rig only]

[Purpose] mostly gaming, sometimes capture and edit for fun, sometimes drawing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor, mouse, keyboard, speaker, controller

[Monitor resolution] currently using 2 monitors - 4k@60hz and 1080@60hz

[Games & softwares that use frequently] 1.mostly mmos like ff14 wow tera black desert etc 2.overwatch diablo3 csgo hots hearthstone 3.some steam indie games and random titles 4.rarely play gtav and some other aaa titles
software - obs / nvidia shadowplay / amd playstv for capture, photoshop, clipstudio paint, sai tool paint

[Personal preferences] - amd intel nvidia is fine for me, but it would be great if u can give me 2 build [1 intel/1 amd] for comparison
- would hope if can put 5k+ in just cpu and gpu, the rest will go to other parts
- dont care bout the looks at all [but if got some extra $ dont mind put in some rgb and such] < would like to have very good cooling case
- dont prefer any water cooling inside the case [unless neccessary] < prefer beastly big air cooler [dont care bout light and such]
- never done oc before, so probably wont do it and can be ignore

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post Apr 7 2017, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Apr 7 2017, 10:33 AM)
intel i7 4790 lga1150 haswell, 4 cores 8 threads, frequency 3.6ghz can last you another 3 to 5 years..

don't change to K series if you not intend to OC..

if you decided to get a i7 7700k, need to change mobo - Z270 platform

16gb ddr3 Ram is more than sufficient

GC also can last you another 2 or 3 years before need to upgrade

explanation: -

wait for 10nm / FinFET processor to be available as your i7 is 22nm

as RAM architecture - I would suggest ddr5 RAM, be ready in a year / two

SSD - get at least WD blue M.2 sata SSD 250gb in the future

so, conclusion is, just hold it for the moment, all your components are still feasible & powerful for now  icon_idea.gif
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hi thanks very much for suggestion, will take note thumbsup.gif
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post Apr 7 2017, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(Kirino2012 @ Apr 7 2017, 06:04 PM)
hi thanks very much for suggestion, after asking a few people i think i will just upgrade parts [gpu & ssd] as cpu [4790 to 7700 & ddr4] wont impact much at 4k

but if u dont mind can give me a build budget around 8~9k [rig only], just want to know what i can get for that price. i live at klang and thrs literally no good pc shop here, and i will have to go kl to quote price and such  doh.gif
will use the format u guys suggest, thanks very much  smile.gif

[Budget] 8~9k [rig only]

[Purpose] mostly gaming, sometimes capture and edit for fun, sometimes drawing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor, mouse, keyboard, speaker, controller

[Monitor resolution] currently using 2 monitors - 4k@60hz and 1080@60hz

[Games & softwares that use frequently] 1.mostly mmos like ff14 wow tera black desert etc 2.overwatch diablo3 csgo hots hearthstone 3.some steam indie games and random titles 4.rarely play gtav and some other aaa titles
software - obs / nvidia shadowplay / amd playstv for capture, photoshop, clipstudio paint, sai tool paint

[Personal preferences] - amd intel nvidia is fine for me, but it would be great if u can give me 2 build [1 intel/1 amd] for comparison
- would hope if can put 5k+ in just cpu and gpu, the rest will go to other parts
- dont care bout the looks at all [but if got some extra $ dont mind put in some rgb and such] < would like to have very good cooling case
- dont prefer any water cooling inside the case [unless neccessary] < prefer beastly big air cooler [dont care bout light and such]
- never done oc before, so probably wont do it and can be ignore

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How about these?

Option 1:
Core i7-7700K (4C 8T) - 1579
Noctua NH-D15 - 415
Gigabyte Z270X Gaming K5 - 899
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
MSI GTX1080 Ti 11GB DDR5X FE - 3699
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 636
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Gold 650W - 479
Corsair Carbide Air 540 case - 674

RM8592 total (C-Zone prices)

Option 2:
AMD Ryzen 1700X (8C 16T) - 1899
Noctua NH-D15 (check for AM4 compatibility before buying this) - 415
Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5 - 1029
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
MSI GTX1080 Ti 11GB DDR5X FE - 3699
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 636
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Gold 650W - 479
Corsair Carbide Air 540 case - 674

RM9042 total (C-Zone prices)

You may want to overclock Ryzen setup because for some reason, it bottlenecks GTX 1070 and higher. Very likely Nvidia haven't optimize the driver for it.

This post has been edited by TristanX: Apr 7 2017, 06:27 PM
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post Apr 7 2017, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 7 2017, 06:24 PM)
How about these?

Option 1:
Core i7-7700K (4C 8T) - 1579
Noctua NH-D15 - 415
Gigabyte Z270X Gaming K5 - 899
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
MSI GTX1080 Ti 11GB DDR5X FE - 3699
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 636
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Gold 650W - 479
Corsair Carbide Air 540 case - 674

RM8592 total (C-Zone prices)

Option 2:
AMD Ryzen 1700X (8C 16T) - 1899
Noctua NH-D15 (check for AM4 compatibility before buying this) - 415
Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5 - 1029
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
MSI GTX1080 Ti 11GB DDR5X FE - 3699
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 636
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Gold 650W - 479
Corsair Carbide Air 540 case - 674

RM9042 total (C-Zone prices)

You may want to overclock Ryzen setup because for some reason, it bottlenecks GTX 1070 and higher. Very likely Nvidia haven't optimize the driver for it.
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nice thanks, gonna go see some reviews for each parts

btw it seems that amd is quite new and got some issues [optimization] including the cooler mounting u mention, which is main problem for me since i want more flexibility in cpu cooler. and i dont like to fix/update/optimize later since im not very good at the hardware bios thing

do u work at c-zone? i can come by and support support when im upgrading/buy new thumbsup.gif just to ty for helping
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post Apr 8 2017, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(Kirino2012 @ Apr 7 2017, 10:34 PM)
nice thanks, gonna go see some reviews for each parts

btw it seems that amd is quite new and got some issues [optimization] including the cooler mounting u mention, which is main problem for me since i want more flexibility in cpu cooler. and i dont like to fix/update/optimize later since im not very good at the hardware bios thing

do u work at c-zone? i can come by and support support when im upgrading/buy new  thumbsup.gif  just to ty for helping
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Welcome.

Yeah, AMD Ryzen just launched a month ago.

Nope. I just help with specs around here.

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post Apr 8 2017, 11:48 AM

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Please suggest a mid-range gaming setup for me. No GPU required (I'm going to reuse my GTX 970 for at least another year) and no power supply needed either (I have an extra Seasonic 620 unit).

I need at least 16 gigs of RAM and I want an SSD. Looking to spend around RM3k to RM4k without monitor or the above two parts.
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 8 2017, 11:48 AM)
Please suggest a mid-range gaming setup for me. No GPU required (I'm going to reuse my GTX 970 for at least another year) and no power supply needed either (I have an extra Seasonic 620 unit).

I need at least 16 gigs of RAM and I want an SSD. Looking to spend around RM3k to RM4k without monitor or the above two parts.
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How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1399
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 482
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair Spec case - 299

RM3361 total (C-Zone prices)

Option 2:
AMD Ryzen 1700 - 1599
MSI B350M Mortar - 480
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 482
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair Spec case - 299

RM3592 total (C-Zone prices)

This post has been edited by TristanX: Apr 8 2017, 02:30 PM
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post Apr 8 2017, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(Kirino2012 @ Apr 6 2017, 06:50 PM)
hi plz help need some advice/suggestion, im currently using :

4790 [non k]
16gb ddr3
980 ti
small ssd [128gb] for windows
1tb black hdd
1x 4k@60 monitor + 1x 1080@60

is it worth it to buy a whole new pc (thinking of cpu like 7700k/ryzen1700, gpu 1080ti, 16gb ddr4, no reuse parts) or just upgrade parts (gpu & add another big ssd for games)? i scare buy new pc the improvement is minimal & is a waste of $
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Not worth upgrading to new platform, since your usage is gaming only. Fyi, haswell is still quite powerful, and the difference between ddr3 and ddr4 is negligible, I bet u won't even notice it in daily usage lol, unless u run benchmark.

If u really want to upgrade, just get a bigger size ssd and gtx 1080 ti will do.

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 8 2017, 01:51 PM)
How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1399
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 482
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair Spec case - 299

RM3361 total (C-Zone prices)

Option 2:
AMD Ryzen 1700 - 1599
MSI B350M Mortar - 480
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 482
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair Spec case - 299

RM3592 total (C-Zone prices)
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Thanks for the suggestions. How big is a Windows 10 install these days? Is 250GB for the SSD enough for Windows plus some reasonable programs. At least the games need to be on the SSD as well.

Also looks like the Gigabyte B250M-D3H is specifically for AMD videocards since it has Crossfire support. Wouldn't it be appropriate to get something specifically for NVIDIA cards since I'll be using my old GTX 970 at least for a while yet?

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 8 2017, 09:24 PM)
Thanks for the suggestions. How big is a Windows 10 install these days? Is 250GB for the SSD enough for Windows plus some reasonable programs. At least the games need to be on the SSD as well.

Also looks like the Gigabyte B250M-D3H is specifically for AMD videocards since it has Crossfire support. Wouldn't it be appropriate to get something specifically for NVIDIA cards since I'll be using my old GTX 970 at least for a while yet?
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Nope. Windows 10 with latest update doesn't even hit 80GB with all my software and tools installed.

And motherboard does not favor Nvidia or AMD. Just that it doesn't support SLI because it doesn't have the SLI chip required for 2 or more Nvidia cards.
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looking for AIO CPU cooler budget rm350 below please advice
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QUOTE(sleyer @ Apr 9 2017, 08:52 AM)
looking for AIO CPU cooler budget rm350 below  please advice
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hi ts, may I suggest

Coolemaster seidon 120v v3 plus - cost around RM240

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 8 2017, 10:02 PM)
Nope. Windows 10 with latest update doesn't even hit 80GB with all my software and tools installed.

And motherboard does not favor Nvidia or AMD. Just that it doesn't support SLI because it doesn't have the SLI chip required for 2 or more Nvidia cards.
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Hmm, the Gigabyte B250M-D3H also doesn't support CPU graphics, right? It's a rarely used feature but I have found it useful in the past when troubleshooting GPU problems and I don't have a spare GPU on hand. Any alternative to this?
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 9 2017, 02:05 PM)
Hmm, the Gigabyte B250M-D3H also doesn't support CPU graphics, right? It's a rarely used feature but I have found it useful in the past when troubleshooting GPU problems and I don't have a spare GPU on hand. Any alternative to this?
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It does support. i7-7700 comes with built-in GPU.

http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-B250M-D3H-rev-10#sp


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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 9 2017, 04:13 PM)
It does support. i7-7700 comes with built-in GPU.

http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-B250M-D3H-rev-10#sp
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Huh. Checked it out together with some other motherboards and it said otherwise. Guess this site was wrong.

http://motherboards.specout.com/l/6522/GIGABYTE-GA-B250M-D3H
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 9 2017, 04:26 PM)
Huh. Checked it out together with some other motherboards and it said otherwise. Guess this site was wrong.

http://motherboards.specout.com/l/6522/GIGABYTE-GA-B250M-D3H
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You are checking non-official site....
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Hi all. I just bought a GTX 980 and I am now deciding on which CPU I should get. The options are:

i5 4460=RM480
i7 4790=RM780

Is the RM300 increase worth it? I am gaming at 1080p. Looking for best bang for buck.
Going to buy Asrock H81M-VG4 for RM120 to complete my rig. Thanks.

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