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 New Proton Persona VVT 2016 - Official Thread V2, Its New, Its Refined, Its Safe ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

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post Mar 12 2017, 10:16 AM

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I rarely use my car, just during weekend and sometimes I outstation on weekends, so the car rarely move. 3 weeks after got my car, the mileage is just 150km.

If I only reach 1k km by let's say 5 months, does the first 1k km service have any period i need to adhere to?
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post Mar 12 2017, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 11 2017, 08:06 PM)
There's always a tolerance lower value on the thermostat, not sure about new persona, I have read some where the thermostat of campro engine opening is about 82'c.. optimal coolant temp is 90'c, but you can't wait until 90'c only letting the water flow to radiator, it would be too late.
After thermostat allowing water free flowing, it's the job of radiator, fan, and airflow to cool down the water... Of coz those are not constant variable, thus the coolant temp always varying 82-95 during normal driving...
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Yes agree. every items for measurement have it tolerance range. Usually engine operation temp should be at around 90-100C. Every thermostat should have marking stated the temp value where it start to open. Usually 75-85C if not mistaken.

the problem now is why can't they set the 2 bar to 3 bar if really the temp is in acceptance case? It should have a standard that from what reading to what reading is nominal value and this standard should apply to all the car outside the market I guess? Seriously this really worry me after I reading below. Just wanna collect more info and reason to question the SC. Else they won't layan u

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The thermostat is there primarily to help the engine warm up in the morning. As we discussed in a previous article, the engine is designed to operate at it's operating temperature. Most engine wear occurs when the engine is cold, once it's warmed up there is very little wear in a healthy engine. Thus, we definitely want to run a thermostat to allow the engine to warm up as quickly as possible until it reaches our desired and designed operating temperature.

http://www.tuneruniversity.com/blog/2012/0...-the-advantage/

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post Mar 12 2017, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(firegal @ Mar 12 2017, 10:39 AM)
Yes agree.  every items for measurement have it tolerance range. Usually engine operation temp should be at around 90-100C. Every thermostat should have marking stated the temp value where it start to open. Usually 75-85C if not mistaken.

the problem now is why can't they set the 2 bar to 3 bar if really the temp is in acceptance case? It should have a standard that from what reading to what reading is nominal value and this standard should apply to all the car outside the market I guess? Seriously this really worry me after I reading below. Just wanna collect more info and reason to question the SC. Else they won't layan u 

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The thermostat is there primarily to help the engine warm up in the morning. As we discussed in a previous article, the engine is designed to operate at it's operating temperature. Most engine wear occurs when the engine is cold, once it's warmed up there is very little wear in a healthy engine. Thus, we definitely want to run a thermostat to allow the engine to warm up as quickly as possible until it reaches our desired and designed operating temperature.

http://www.tuneruniversity.com/blog/2012/0...-the-advantage/
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The keyword is "warm up" ... That concern is mainly from cooler climate country..
I'm not saying we don't need warm up to reduce engine wear, but I guess once the temp exceeding 70'c, it should be safe.
Personally I prefer temp gauge varying to indicate the actual temp instead of pointing just one location for safe temp variation. But that's different from individual. Of coz you can ask proton staff on that, but I guess their answer would be no worries, no problem, as the car temp gauge was designed to be like that, nothing an ordinary SC can modify on it.

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post Mar 12 2017, 11:22 AM

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My fuel indicator showed massive discrepancies again..

Yesterday I Felt excited when 3 bars dropped to 2 bars after 85km distance, 80% highway, no jam in city roads. WOW!!!

.....then 2 bars dropped to 1 bar after the next 30km . ...damn!!

OK. so nothing have changed...thats about 55-58km per bar like my daily drive to and back office with 60% hiway and 40% city roads with the chronic jam.


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Yesterday went test drive the Persona Premium. The engine definitely has enough power, but the CVT is a bit noisy. However, it responds faster than the CVT in my old City. Interior quality is much better than Bezza.
Overall quite impressed. But my wife keeps complaining about the reverse placement of the signal/wiper control sticks. sweat.gif

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post Mar 12 2017, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(monoikhwan @ Mar 12 2017, 10:16 AM)
I rarely use my car, just during weekend and sometimes I outstation on weekends, so the car rarely move. 3 weeks after got my car, the mileage is just 150km.

If I only reach 1k km by let's say 5 months,  does the first 1k km service have any period i need to adhere to?
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Its 1km or 1 month..whichever come first
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Mar 12 2017, 11:22 AM)
My fuel indicator showed massive discrepancies again..

Yesterday I Felt excited when 3 bars dropped to 2 bars after 85km distance, 80% highway, no jam in city roads. WOW!!!

.....then  2 bars dropped to 1 bar after the next 30km . ...damn!!

OK. so nothing have changed...thats about 55-58km per bar  like my daily drive to and back office with 60% hiway and 40% city roads with the chronic jam.
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Do others suffering from the same issue?
Sounds like instrument measurement issue. Maybe you should get the Bluetooth OBD reader to read the values.

QUOTE(steven789 @ Mar 12 2017, 11:42 AM)
Yesterday went test drive the Persona Premium. The engine definitely has enough power, but the CVT is a bit noisy. However, it responds faster than the CVT in my old City. Interior quality is much better than Bezza.
Overall quite impressed. But my wife keeps complaining about the reverse placement of the signal/wiper control sticks.  sweat.gif
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Wah...I thought the Punch CVT is not responsive especially from stand still. I haven't test drive one. Lol
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Mar 12 2017, 11:22 AM)
My fuel indicator showed massive discrepancies again..

Yesterday I Felt excited when 3 bars dropped to 2 bars after 85km distance, 80% highway, no jam in city roads. WOW!!!

.....then  2 bars dropped to 1 bar after the next 30km . ...damn!!

OK. so nothing have changed...thats about 55-58km per bar  like my daily drive to and back office with 60% hiway and 40% city roads with the chronic jam.
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The fuel indicator reading is not liner. Once it drop to 3 bars, it means SOON you'll be making the petrol station owner laughing all the way to the bank. 2 bars mean VERY SOON and 1 bar is asking you to get ready your credit card. The fuel icon flashing you? Drive straight to the nearest police station to make a harrasement report. Today Sunday lah!
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post Mar 12 2017, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 12 2017, 10:47 AM)
The keyword is "warm up" ... That concern is mainly from cooler climate country..
I'm not saying we don't need warm up to reduce engine wear, but I guess once the temp exceeding 70'c, it should be safe.
Personally I prefer temp gauge varying to indicate the actual temp instead of pointing just one location for safe temp variation. But that's different from individual. Of coz you can ask proton staff on that, but I guess their answer would be no worries, no problem, as the car temp gauge was designed to be like that, nothing an ordinary SC can modify on it.
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Yeah. If the temp gauge varying to indicate the actual temp is great. As least I know it is at designed operating temp. So we need to know 2 bar is indicate how much. 70c I don't think is high enough. As normal operating temp should be 90-100C. 20C is huge I guess. Imagine u drive on highway for few hours non stop and operating at 70C, you sure it won't hurt?
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QUOTE(steven789 @ Mar 12 2017, 11:42 AM)
Yesterday went test drive the Persona Premium. The engine definitely has enough power, but the CVT is a bit noisy. However, it responds faster than the CVT in my old City. Interior quality is much better than Bezza.
Overall quite impressed. But my wife keeps complaining about the reverse placement of the signal/wiper control sticks.  sweat.gif
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You have decided to buy Persona but not sure which variant to get?

Old Goat here invited 3 Car Reviewer Specialists namely Me, Myself and I to give their concise, honest and impartial opinions regarding Persona various variants.

And also a car thief (CT) to grade the various variants. Yes, your read it right. Who else is more interested in other people cars? You think he simply go and steal any Cap Ayam cars? And also some GF.....

Premium CVT - Pros: Semua ada
Cons: Semua problems pun ada
GF: What ??? You got Persona??? I thought you said Perdana!!!
CT: 1 thumb-up. Sorry about that, Bezza got the 2 thumps-up.

Executive CVT - Pros: Saved RM60K-RM56K = RM4K
Cons: Least popular
GF: What ??? You paid RM6K (RM56K-RM50K) for 8 stupid Adds-on? RM6K divided by 8 = RM750 each!!! Everyday you carry sugarcanes??? And everyday you need to use the front fog lamps??? And .... And ....
CT: Thumb-down

Standard CVT - Pros: Saved RM60K-RM50K = RM10K. Got moola to change roda (wheel). Clever boy!
Cons: No this, no that
GF: You no money say so lah
CT: Middle finger

Standard 5MT - Pros: Paradise for those who must "main kayu" and "goncang kaki"
Cons: Wife keeps complaining about the reverse placement of the signal/wiper control sticks
GF: Now you no hand to "more-more cha-cha", huh???
CT: Four letters word

Verdict: Change GF and make Old Goat persona nan grata!

Note - OG owned the Prestigious Award Winning Middle-finger one.



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post Mar 12 2017, 07:06 PM

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cheeshong drsmallkid and those who got less than 280km for 1 tank

Care to share your Average speed and total driving time for that fuel up?

For my last fuel up I get around average of 45km/h and somewhere 12 hours drive time, most of other fuel up, I got similar reading as well.

It manage to travel around 460km and still have 2 bars left... the fuel up got me around 31 litre of fuel. total time involved in bumper to bumper traffic is around 2 hours for this fuel up... the rest is mix highway and city drive 50 50
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Has anyone changed their stock tyres to other brand? Thinking of changing soon, but I'm a bit of a noob to find which brand provides less noise and comfort. Suggestion, anyone? smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ashhh @ Mar 12 2017, 07:21 PM)
Has anyone changed their stock tyres to other brand? Thinking of changing soon, but I'm a bit of a noob to find which brand provides less noise and comfort. Suggestion, anyone? smile.gif
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For quiet and comfort you can try CC6, seen a lot good review about its quietness and comfort. But since this is not a performance tyre, don't expect for superior wet grip
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post Mar 12 2017, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(Jspot @ Mar 12 2017, 07:47 AM)
Hi all,my car got a kind of noise during braking almost to full stop ,sound like "krup krup krup",and "clik clik " noise during reverse or forward on slope, got anyone face this two problem ?
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Last week there was also a quarry about kruk kruk sound when braking. And now you mentioned it too. Maybe brake problems are now starting to appear.

I didn't hear any funny noise when braking or reversing, whether on slope or on level ground.

If you now feel your car is behaving differently as compare when you first took delivery of your car, I would suggest you send it back to SC for checking. Brake wise, do it ASAP because brake failure is a serious matter.

I know it is a hassle to go to SC but don't go to an unauthorized workshop to avoid getting your car warranty voided.



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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 12 2017, 07:30 PM)
For quiet and comfort you can try CC6, seen a lot good review about its quietness and comfort. But since this is not a performance tyre, don't expect for superior wet grip
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What brand is that? Too lazy to google.

Oh nevermind, it is Continental.

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i own a standard cvt persona.

1. What is the recommended tyre pressure? the manual says it is 210 for front tyres and 190 for back tyres. is that enough?
2. When you stop at a slope, does hill stop assist kick start automatically? i.e it will not go backwards if you are on D gear?
3. When you stop at a slope and you want to accelerate, I notice that you need to press the pedal quite hard for it to move
4. Does persona support phone charger? If so what brand would you guys recommend?
5. Any specific phone holder that you guys can recommend? I tend to use waze a lot due to me being a new driver and i need a phone holder to hold the phone while i'm driving

Thank you in advance guys!
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 12 2017, 07:06 PM)
cheeshong drsmallkid and those who got less than 280km for 1 tank

Care to share your Average speed and total driving time for that fuel up?

For my last fuel up I get around average of 45km/h and somewhere 12 hours drive time, most of other fuel up, I got similar reading as well.

It manage to travel around 460km and still have 2 bars left... the fuel up got me around 31 litre of fuel. total time involved in bumper to bumper traffic is around 2 hours for this fuel up... the rest is mix highway and city drive 50 50
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Yours is MT? Boss also drive MT? Whereas most of us drive CVT.

It ls stated that at constant 90kph, MT use less fuel than CVT.

So, do we have to take this into consideration when comparing FC?


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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Mar 12 2017, 08:02 PM)
i own a standard cvt persona.

1. What is the recommended tyre pressure? the manual says it is 210 for front tyres and 190 for back tyres. is that enough?
2. When you stop at a slope, does hill stop assist kick start automatically? i.e it will not go backwards if you are on D gear?
3. When you stop at a slope and you want to accelerate, I notice that you need to press the pedal quite hard for it to move
4. Does persona support phone charger? If so what brand would you guys recommend?
5. Any specific phone holder that you guys can recommend? I tend to use waze a lot due to me being a new driver and i need a phone holder to hold the phone while i'm driving

Thank you in advance guys!
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1) The manual also say that you need to take into consideration the number of passengers and the car boot load. I just pump it to 220 all round and hope the stock tyres can go botak sooner so I can tell wife, wife, tyres already botak, can change or not? smile.gif

2) When on slope, HSA kick-in when the pedal brake is pressed. I read somewhere that hand brake is not counted but I have not tried it. The car won't gostan if you press the gas pedal with 2-3 second after you released the foot brake.

3) Depend on the slope gradient.

4) The 12v socket in front of the CVT should be able to support the phone charger. Brand wise, it all depend on what the shop carried but don't buy cheap, cheap. I intend to go to Lowyat to get one.

5) Can't answer you.

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 12 2017, 07:30 PM)
For quiet and comfort you can try CC6, seen a lot good review about its quietness and comfort. But since this is not a performance tyre, don't expect for superior wet grip
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the stock silverstone kruzer is super f****ing loud idk why. Anyone here finds out that the tyre noise of the persona is sooo loud? I think michelin primacy is pretty good too!
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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Mar 12 2017, 08:46 PM)
1) The manual also say that you need to take into consideration the number of passengers and the car boot load. I just pump it to 220 all round and hope the stock tyres can go botak sooner so I can tell wife, wife, tyres already botak, can change or not? smile.gif

2) When on slope, HSA kick-in when the pedal brake is pressed. I read somewhere that hand brake is not counted but I have not tried it. The car won't gostan if you press the gas pedal with 2-3 second after you released the foot brake.

3) Depend on the slope gradient.

4) The 12v socket in front of the CVT should be able to support the phone charger. Brand wise, it all depend on what the shop carried but don't buy cheap, cheap. I intend to go to Lowyat to get one.

5) Can't answer you.
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5) any pasar malam phone holder will do. Ive been using mine for like 5 yrs


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