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 New Proton Persona VVT 2016 - Official Thread V2, Its New, Its Refined, Its Safe ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

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paganizonda
post Mar 12 2017, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 12 2017, 07:06 PM)
cheeshong drsmallkid and those who got less than 280km for 1 tank

Care to share your Average speed and total driving time for that fuel up?

For my last fuel up I get around average of 45km/h and somewhere 12 hours drive time, most of other fuel up, I got similar reading as well.

It manage to travel around 460km and still have 2 bars left... the fuel up got me around 31 litre of fuel. total time involved in bumper to bumper traffic is around 2 hours for this fuel up... the rest is mix highway and city drive 50 50
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460km with 2 bar left fulamak.... My cvt persona can only manage to go 430km with 70% highway 30% city hahahahaha. Manual persona is so much more efficient than the cvt. Mind telling whats the rpm when u r going at around 100kmh?
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post Mar 12 2017, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Mar 12 2017, 08:17 PM)
Yours is MT? Boss also drive MT? Whereas most of us drive CVT.

It ls stated that at constant 90kph, MT use less fuel than CVT.

So, do we have to take this into consideration when comparing FC?
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Just to see only.. these figure can tell something more about our similarity of driving condition

By right MT and CVT shouldn't differ too much in fuel consumption.. but there's one more MT owner say the FC is bad too... so let's see

QUOTE(paganizonda @ Mar 12 2017, 08:52 PM)
the stock silverstone kruzer is super f****ing loud idk why. Anyone here finds out that the tyre noise of the persona is sooo loud? I think michelin primacy is pretty good too!
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Yes, the stock Silverstone is very loud. Somehow I do find it pretty grippy... so far I never skid except boss
Not sure if I already used to it or the tire run in already, I find the noise is less annoying/loud now...

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post Mar 12 2017, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Mar 12 2017, 09:02 PM)
460km with 2 bar left fulamak.... My cvt persona can only manage to go 430km with 70% highway 30% city hahahahaha. Manual persona is so much more efficient than the cvt. Mind telling whats the rpm when u r going at around 100kmh?
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Based on gear ratio calculation along with current stock tire setup, we are getting around 103km/h at 3k rpm for 5th gear
If based on meter, around 2.8-2.9k rpm at 100km/h
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post Mar 12 2017, 11:04 PM

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How about Conti MC5? Price should be slightly higher den cc6 I guess. P
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post Mar 12 2017, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 12 2017, 07:06 PM)
cheeshong drsmallkid and those who got less than 280km for 1 tank

Care to share your Average speed and total driving time for that fuel up?

For my last fuel up I get around average of 45km/h and somewhere 12 hours drive time, most of other fuel up, I got similar reading as well.

It manage to travel around 460km and still have 2 bars left... the fuel up got me around 31 litre of fuel. total time involved in bumper to bumper traffic is around 2 hours for this fuel up... the rest is mix highway and city drive 50 50
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You mean get this info from the meter cluster?
But anyhow my cvt won't be close to your FC.
Last few days I have been driving super eco ly. And gosh it's really boring. I used to drive 80-110kmh easily on highway but now I just can only take the middle lane and sometimes the slow lane, at 60kmh or max 80kmh. FC improved with additional 50km for half tank. If drive like this still not good FC then the engine really can throw d...I not yet pump petrol so will try again this time with full tank.

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post Mar 12 2017, 11:57 PM

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Just now I use my obd2 to read the data from ecu, I am using torque lite Android app with my Bluetooth obd2. The only thing closest to the engine temperature that I can see from the app is "engine coolant temperature" . Others are not relevant. Maybe if use the paid version can get more info. But anyway, this is what I saw

60c to 74c = our 2 bars
75c onwards is 3 bars.

Driving from usj to puchong, I keep an eye on the app, the whole journey, the temperature is between 75-78c

Not sure this helps
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post Mar 13 2017, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 12 2017, 11:51 PM)
You mean get this info from the meter cluster?
But anyhow my cvt won't be close to your FC.
Last few days I have been driving super eco ly. And gosh it's really boring. I used to drive 80-110kmh easily on highway but now I just can only take the middle lane and sometimes the slow lane, at 60kmh or max 80kmh. FC improved with additional 50km for half tank. If drive like this still not good FC then the engine really can throw d...I not yet pump petrol so will try again this time with full tank.
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Ya, from the meter cluster... I always reset at each full fuel up.

But however, I would suggest to drive the car the way you like, you don't have to follow our ah pek style driving to get good FC since I believe the motive you got this car is not just for the FC or you would have go for Bezza instead.

If it makes u to be another person that you don't feel comfortable with, just drive the way you like would make u a happier man flex.gif

Another worth mentioning torture for fuel save is not to hit down the accelerator too much when going uphill, best if you can just maintain the throttle. But this will be Super unsatisfying watching your speed drop, cars at your back is getting closer to you but still not doing anything to it laugh.gif

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post Mar 13 2017, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 12 2017, 11:57 PM)
Just now I use my obd2 to read the data from ecu, I am using torque lite Android app with my Bluetooth obd2. The only thing closest to the engine temperature that I can see from the app is "engine coolant temperature" . Others are not relevant. Maybe if use the paid version can get more info. But anyway, this is what I saw

60c to 74c = our 2 bars
75c onwards is 3 bars.

Driving from usj to puchong, I keep an eye on the app, the whole journey, the temperature is between 75-78c

Not sure this helps
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If this is accurate, I guess the engine operate at pretty normal temperature, just that the temperature bar between 2nd and 3rd is within the optimal operating temperature, a slight change would make it drop to 2nd bar
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post Mar 13 2017, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 13 2017, 12:01 AM)
Ya, from the meter cluster... I always reset at each full fuel up.

But however, I would suggest to drive the car the way you like, you don't have to follow our ah pek style driving to get good FC since I believe the motive you got this car is not just for the FC or you would have go for Bezza instead.

If it makes u to be another person that you don't feel comfortable with, just drive the way you like would make u a happier man  flex.gif

Another worth mentioning torture for fuel save is not to hit down the accelerator too much when going uphill, best if you can just maintain the throttle. But this will be Super unsatisfying watching your speed drop, cars at your back is getting closer to you but still not doing anything to it  laugh.gif
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You hit My point bro. It's really unsatisfying to have to force my self to drive like this but if I don't drive like this and follow my own driving style, it will be drinking fuel like nobody business. Fc is worse than my old car. Still trying to accept this fact tbh
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post Mar 13 2017, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 13 2017, 12:23 AM)
You hit My point bro. It's really unsatisfying to have to force my self to drive like this but if I don't drive like this and follow my own driving style, it will be drinking fuel like nobody business. Fc is worse than my old car. Still trying to accept this fact tbh
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Too bad this Persona can't have both FC and Power at once...

It actually applies to other car also... I read somewhere that the Inspira 1.8MT has FC worse than Iswara 1.5 AT because he always floor to metal on both car. Not sure he's joking or for real sweat.gif

I think Inspirian should know who i'm talking about in case they are reading this whistling.gif
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post Mar 13 2017, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 13 2017, 12:36 AM)
Too bad this Persona can't have both FC and Power at once...

It actually applies to other car also... I read somewhere that the Inspira 1.8MT has FC worse than Iswara 1.5 AT because he always floor to metal on both car. Not sure he's joking or for real  sweat.gif

I think Inspirian should know who i'm talking about in case they are reading this  whistling.gif
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Doesn't happen to all cars but yes, some. In my opinion, a car should be reasonable fc when driving normally within the speed range that we normally use, for example below 100kmh then the engine has a balance of fc and power. Not necessary must be very powerful but the keyword is balance. If a car need to drive like this like that only can save fc then the engine is not friendly to the driver. I still think all these can be programmed in the ecu. Really no one attempted reflash the iriz?
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post Mar 13 2017, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 12 2017, 11:57 PM)
Just now I use my obd2 to read the data from ecu, I am using torque lite Android app with my Bluetooth obd2. The only thing closest to the engine temperature that I can see from the app is "engine coolant temperature" . Others are not relevant. Maybe if use the paid version can get more info. But anyway, this is what I saw

60c to 74c = our 2 bars
75c onwards is 3 bars.

Driving from usj to puchong, I keep an eye on the app, the whole journey, the temperature is between 75-78c

Not sure this helps
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Thanks for the info man. So which means even the bar drop to 2 during your driving from usj to puchong is around 75-78c reading?
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post Mar 13 2017, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Mar 12 2017, 08:02 PM)

4. Does persona support phone charger? If so what brand would you guys recommend?

Thank you in advance guys!
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I'm using the XiaoMi USB Car Charger & I got it from kopiPeng
No problems with it so far thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(firegal @ Mar 13 2017, 09:00 AM)
Thanks for the info man.  So which means even the bar drop to 2 during your driving from usj to puchong is around 75-78c reading?
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No.
It's constantly on 3 bars. Not a lot of highways.
If drop to 74c then it will go 2 bars but I don't think it matters.
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 13 2017, 10:07 AM)
No.
It's constantly on 3 bars. Not a lot of highways.
If drop to 74c then it will go 2 bars but I don't think it matters.
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I agree, the bar give drivers a wrong impression of huge fluctuation and causes unnecessary anxiety.








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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 13 2017, 09:07 AM)
No.
It's constantly on 3 bars. Not a lot of highways.
If drop to 74c then it will go 2 bars but I don't think it matters.
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Just worry it might hit 70C? With 7 bars indicators, the step ratio should be wide enough, wonder why can't they fit in to the nominal bar.
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post Mar 13 2017, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(LedZepp67 @ Mar 13 2017, 09:00 AM)
I'm using the XiaoMi USB Car Charger & I got it from kopiPeng
No problems with it so far  thumbsup.gif
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Thanks for tagging bro! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 13 2017, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(skynet2020 @ Mar 7 2017, 10:19 PM)
sifu..what is the function of this car skid symbol ar..the light is always on whenever i on my car and when i press on the button also this symbol light still remain on..  confused.gif  confused.gif

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You have to press the button and hold it for few seconds to turn it off.
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post Mar 13 2017, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(kopiPeng @ Mar 13 2017, 09:27 AM)
Thanks for tagging bro!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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can i ask what is the functionality of a car charger since we already have a usb port in the car? sorry newbie here.


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