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post Oct 27 2017, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Oct 27 2017, 04:57 PM)
Thanks for the info. I understand stand that topping up now might not make difference in short term. But I was thinking that the NAV will shot back up in due time to the original price before dividend announcement, no?
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The bold is an independent event. If after distribution, this fund is able to shoot up to the original price before distribution, then without the distribution, this fund will be able to shoot up higher than it's current nav.

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post Oct 27 2017, 06:56 PM

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in term of top up during distribution, i think is a LPPL scenario la.. but distribution in the long run is very good, just like snow grow bigger and bigger.

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post Oct 27 2017, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Oct 27 2017, 04:50 PM)
may i know when there is dividend declaration which resulted in a steep drop of NAV, do you add more fund into it, while the NAV is low?
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Let's get this correct. Nobody make any buying/selling/switching decision based on the nav price.

UT fund is not like gold or land where the gold price or price per sq ft is tracked.

Nobody keep track and chart the nav prices. What was tracked, monitored, and charted was the fund's performance growth in %.

Similarly, when we look at today's fund prices, it is the daily change in % that we should look at.

If you're looking at the right chart, you will not see any dips due to fund distribution.

The dips are due to market prices.

So if we want to time the purchases and buy the dips, we are looking at the percentage drop, not the nav price.


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post Oct 27 2017, 09:04 PM

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Idea Of The Week: PRS Funds’ Performance Review [25 October 2017]

URL: https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...ober-2017--9012

Note: The table for PRS Growth Fund is wrongly attached.

Correct image:
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post Oct 27 2017, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Kokman @ Oct 27 2017, 10:58 AM)
Fully agree.

A thing to mention here is: UT investing is a means to build wealth, we either sustain our wealth level (if we can catch up with the inflation rate) or becomes wealthier than what we have now (if we can outperform the inflation rate). This is very important, if we cannot achieve it, how can we become rich? So UT investing is an important thing to retire rich and well. No doubt.

Then is the leverage, if we want to be rich we need to use leverage (properly!). That's the phase that comes after the stage we know how to build wealth with confidence. There comes also home buyer, or business at scale that loans are used properly. Those are some example for getting rich (before retirement?)

I do not agree what the reporter said either. He must not belittle UT investing, especially on a platform where funds of broad markets could be easily accessed, and at a substantially low front loading fees.

Happy investing!
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Warning! Old man ranting ahead... ranting.gif


I blame nowadays the internet for perpetuating a lie that everyone can or must be rich. Or that everyone should do business or some sort of entrepreneur endeavour. What the internet conveniently left out is that rich people is like a pyramid, only a few are rich and the majority are poor with the middle group simply being middle income people.

If you are not rich, I mean, so be it... it is not a crime nor a death knell. Unlike what Jack Ma said, you do not have to be rich to live comfortably. I am certainly rich compared to the majority below me demographically and I am certainly poor compared to the few very rich above me in the pyramid scheme of things.

Am I an entrepreneur? Am I a business man? No, I am neither. I am just a salary man who build wealth the old fashion way... that is I spend less than what I earn and invest the rest. Can I be a business man? I doubt so. Can I be an entrepreneur? No way. Do I need to buy the BMW or live in a large mansion to be happy? No. Be contented and be happy.

To me, UTF is a good tool for regular Joe like me to accumulate wealth in a safe and easily accessible way in a sense I do not need to come out with a large capital outlay. I can invest in sum that I am comfortable with. I can certainly stop at anytime I want without penalty. And I can liquidate the fund at anytime I want. What sort of investment tool can you think off that can offer such freedom or flexibility?

Xuzen

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post Oct 27 2017, 10:58 PM

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any sifu here know when will fsm have lower sale charges? like merdeka promotion and recommneded list update promotion
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QUOTE(leong321 @ Oct 27 2017, 10:58 PM)
any sifu here know when will fsm have lower sale charges? like merdeka promotion and recommneded list update promotion
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Next year January/February for the annual event.
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post Oct 27 2017, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 27 2017, 09:04 PM)
Idea Of The Week: PRS Funds’ Performance Review [25 October 2017]

URL: https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...ober-2017--9012

Note: The table for PRS Growth Fund is wrongly attached.

Correct image:
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doh.gif on wrong table in FSM. You should report to their staff...

From what I can see, those buying conservative PRS is such a waste since FD can give better returns and liquidity...Only Balanced or Growth PRS fund is worthy to buy. Overall a good info to top up for the PRS this year. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 27 2017, 10:37 PM)
Warning! Old man ranting ahead... ranting.gif
I blame nowadays the internet for perpetuating a lie that everyone can or must be rich. Or that everyone should do business or some sort of entrepreneur endeavour. What the internet conveniently left out is that rich people is like a pyramid, only a few are rich and the majority are poor with the middle group simply being middle income people.

If you are not rich, I mean, so be it... it is not a crime nor a death knell. Unlike what Jack Ma said, you do not have to be rich to live comfortably. I am certainly rich compared to the majority below me demographically and I am certainly poor compared to the few very rich above me in the pyramid scheme of things.

Am I an entrepreneur? Am I a business man? No, I am neither. I am just a salary man who build wealth the old fashion way... that is I spend less than what I earn and invest the rest. Can I be a business man? I doubt so. Can I be an entrepreneur? No way. Do I need to buy the BMW or live in a large mansion to be happy? No. Be contented and be happy.

To me, UTF is a good tool for regular Joe like me to accumulate wealth in a safe and easily accessible way in a sense I do not need to come out with a large capital outlay. I can invest in sum that I am comfortable with. I can certainly stop at anytime I want without penalty. And I can liquidate the fund at anytime I want. What sort of investment tool can you think off that can offer such freedom or flexibility?

Xuzen
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post Oct 28 2017, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 27 2017, 09:04 PM)
Idea Of The Week: PRS Funds’ Performance Review [25 October 2017]

URL: https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...ober-2017--9012

Note: The table for PRS Growth Fund is wrongly attached.

Correct image:
user posted image
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Thank you!
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post Oct 28 2017, 12:53 AM

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as of now....still have few hours more to go.....
sweat.gif sweat.gif the higher it goes...the harder it will fall devil.gif innocent.gif

GO TA Global Tech..go go go.... thumbsup.gif


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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 27 2017, 10:37 PM)
Warning! Old man ranting ahead... ranting.gif
I blame nowadays the internet for perpetuating a lie that everyone can or must be rich. Or that everyone should do business or some sort of entrepreneur endeavour. What the internet conveniently left out is that rich people is like a pyramid, only a few are rich and the majority are poor with the middle group simply being middle income people.

If you are not rich, I mean, so be it... it is not a crime nor a death knell. Unlike what Jack Ma said, you do not have to be rich to live comfortably. I am certainly rich compared to the majority below me demographically and I am certainly poor compared to the few very rich above me in the pyramid scheme of things.

Am I an entrepreneur? Am I a business man? No, I am neither. I am just a salary man who build wealth the old fashion way... that is I spend less than what I earn and invest the rest. Can I be a business man? I doubt so. Can I be an entrepreneur? No way. Do I need to buy the BMW or live in a large mansion to be happy? No. Be contented and be happy.

To me, UTF is a good tool for regular Joe like me to accumulate wealth in a safe and easily accessible way in a sense I do not need to come out with a large capital outlay. I can invest in sum that I am comfortable with. I can certainly stop at anytime I want without penalty. And I can liquidate the fund at anytime I want. What sort of investment tool can you think off that can offer such freedom or flexibility?

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 28 2017, 12:31 AM)
Come I pour cold water
- ETF whistling.gif whistling.gif
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Good point. Even better is the leveraged buy of ETF. Unfortunately we only have 3 choices on Bursa: Malaysia, ASEAN, and China. Very Asian centric.

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QUOTE(Kokman @ Oct 28 2017, 07:05 AM)
Good point. Even better is the leveraged buy of ETF. Unfortunately we only have 3 choices on Bursa: Malaysia, ASEAN, and China. Very Asian centric.
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Don't restrict yourself to bursa only. There's so many instrument to get access to ETF.

Brokers
- 8 securities
- Charles schwab

Robo advior
- Stash away
- Autowealth
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post Oct 28 2017, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 28 2017, 02:05 PM)
Don't restrict yourself to bursa only.  There's so many instrument to get access to ETF.

Brokers
- 8 securities
- Charles schwab

Robo advior
- Stash away
- Autowealth
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you invested both FSM SG & ETF?
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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Oct 28 2017, 02:16 PM)
you invested both FSM SG & ETF?
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Possible to register and use FSM SG from Malaysia?
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Thank you for answering my questions few days ago. thumbup.gif

Another questions,

How frequent show I top up my unit trusts (to minimize sale charge if any)?
Is there any extra charge each time I top up the same fund?

Thanks.

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QUOTE(Tylerlee @ Oct 28 2017, 03:33 PM)
Thank you for answering my questions few days ago. thumbup.gif

Another questions,

How frequent show I top up my unit trusts (to minimize sale charge if any)?
Is there any extra charge each time I top up the same fund?

Thanks.
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yes, there will be sales charges to be incurred even if you top up the same fund
how frequent should you top up......it depends on your financial standing.....but sales charges applies to each transaction too.
btw, if the Sales Charges is your concern, try read post 2598
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2601692/+2580
PM that forummer for more advise and tips on how to go about it....
he is very helpful....
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There's 2 more days to go, and yet this month is among the better months of the year.

Since the previous post on the YTD returns of all funds, the list of funds having at least 20% has grown to 3 pages.

http://my.morningstar.com/ap/FundSelect/re...ce&Type=YTDBest

Anyway, while you're laughing all the way to the bank, stop a second & let's talk about other things... just to indulge those who have missed the boat. biggrin.gif

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PS. I support local businesses. If the local community goes out of their way to avoid shopping at the neighbourhood shop, 99 speedmart won't be opening its 1000th shop.








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post Oct 28 2017, 07:13 PM

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just read this.....
not sure of how this impact the investors that try to seek more returns through currency appreciation of SGD against MYR that had been seen the last few years.
"As widely expected, the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS) made no changes to its monetary policy last week.
The central bank of Singapore had maintained the rate of appreciation of the Singapore dollar nominal effective exchange rate (S$NEER) at zero percent, with the width of the policy band and the level at which it is centred unchanged. For a year now (since October 2016), the Monetary Authority of Singapore has maintained its zero appreciation stance. "

http://www.fundsupermart.com.hk/hk/main/re...on-Stance-14073

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