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FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D
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gsan
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Feb 21 2017, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 21 2017, 10:48 PM) doing another epf withdrawal this year to take advantage of the tax loop hole and buy prs. is this a tax loop hole? withdraw epf money to pay for monthly housing loan. when they bank in the fund use it purchase in prs in fsm for max 3k and get additional 1k for this year from budget 2017. application for tax relief two times on same monies. can we use epf to invest on prs???
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Avangelice
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Feb 21 2017, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(gsan @ Feb 21 2017, 11:14 PM) can we use epf to invest on prs??? :confused: :confused: bro read my post again eh. withdraw epf to pay housing loan but the money goes into your bank account. use said money to channel into fsm and buy into prs funds
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SUSDavid83
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Feb 21 2017, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 21 2017, 10:48 PM) doing another epf withdrawal this year to take advantage of the tax loop hole and buy prs. is this a tax loop hole? withdraw epf money to pay for monthly housing loan. when they bank in the fund use it purchase in prs in fsm for max 3k and get additional 1k for this year from budget 2017. application for tax relief two times on same monies. What is the additional 1k from? PRS youth incentive?
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Avangelice
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Feb 21 2017, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 21 2017, 11:28 PM) What is the additional 1k from? PRS youth incentive? yes
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old_and_slow
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Feb 22 2017, 12:10 AM
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bought some ABERDEEN ISLAMIC WORLD EQUITY FUND - CLASS A last month seen the performance over last year, compared with mini-recession times in february and october, it seems stable despite rocky market. feel no worry buying. of course there are higher performing but if i want stability then have to sacrifice a bit
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T231H
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Feb 22 2017, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 21 2017, 10:51 PM) opportunity cost of withdrawal $$ from EPF is abt 5.7% pa. if possible don't touch EPF but use cash QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 21 2017, 11:08 PM) tax relief and Free money. who won't want that. btw 3000x5.7%=171 where as 1000/3000x100=33% profit. that haven't calculated the tax relief yet bro. two times since you keyed in the tax relief for epf contribution and then later key the same money into your prs contribution. I think it beats 5.7% any day. if you use cash, then you will still get all the above plus you don't need to find an alternative to this presumably safe 5.7% instrument.
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T231H
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Feb 22 2017, 07:24 AM
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QUOTE(old_and_slow @ Feb 22 2017, 12:10 AM) bought some ABERDEEN ISLAMIC WORLD EQUITY FUND - CLASS A last month seen the performance over last year, compared with mini-recession times in february and october, it seems stable despite rocky market. feel no worry buying. of course there are higher performing but if i want stability then have to sacrifice a bit  good and happy to know that, you found and liked what you wanted to seek. Happy investing and have a nice adventure. Huat-huat ah. Attached thumbnail(s)
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killdavid
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Feb 22 2017, 09:26 AM
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Morning all, just for sharing. This shows where all the big investment company are putting their bet on. So maybe can help you decide where you should invest in.[attachmentid=8512171]
Edit: Just what to add in what i gather from this info, i am noob don't flame me ya. When Trump came into power there was a huge capital flight from China for fear of trade war. Now when things start to settle down that capital is going into emerging markets like Russia. Maybe Trump showing signs of wanting to be Putin's buddy. But China now seems to be under valued maybe for fear there is still chance for trade war. So maybe China is a good bet, with leadership change unlikely and strong domestic demands.
This post has been edited by killdavid: Feb 22 2017, 09:32 AM
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Avangelice
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Feb 22 2017, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Feb 22 2017, 09:26 AM) Morning all, just for sharing. This shows where all the big investment company are putting their bet on. So maybe can help you decide where you should invest in.[attachmentid=8512171] Edit: Just what to add in what i gather from this info, i am noob don't flame me ya. When Trump came into power there was a huge capital flight from China for fear of trade war. Now when things start to settle down that capital is going into emerging markets like Russia. Maybe Trump showing signs of wanting to be Putin's buddy. But China now seems to be under valued maybe for fear there is still chance for trade war. So maybe China is a good bet, with leadership change unlikely and strong domestic demands. there's an article posted by fsm. https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...uary-2017--8014it reiterates my belief that you should still be invested in China. people keep saying it will break every year but I realized it's too big to fail.
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puchongite
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Feb 22 2017, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 22 2017, 10:20 AM) there's an article posted by fsm. https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...uary-2017--8014it reiterates my belief that you should still be invested in China. people keep saying it will break every year but I realized it's too big to fail. CIMB china went down 40% in the previous correction. Would you stay put when it happens again ? That's question I always ask myself.
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Avangelice
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Feb 22 2017, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 22 2017, 10:36 AM) CIMB china went down 40% in the previous correction. Would you stay put when it happens again ? That's question I always ask myself. I would because I already placed measures to make sure I can withstand the fall out. plus I always believed a reset button is needed to every once awhile. look at 2008 American economical disaster. people see it as a recession. I see it as a lesson to everyone not not let banks do whatever shit they want which caused the problem to begin with. you never learn when you never fall.
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SUSPink Spider
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Feb 22 2017, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Feb 22 2017, 09:26 AM) Morning all, just for sharing. This shows where all the big investment company are putting their bet on. So maybe can help you decide where you should invest in.[attachmentid=8512171] Edit: Just what to add in what i gather from this info, i am noob don't flame me ya. When Trump came into power there was a huge capital flight from China for fear of trade war. Now when things start to settle down that capital is going into emerging markets like Russia. Maybe Trump showing signs of wanting to be Putin's buddy. But China now seems to be under valued maybe for fear there is still chance for trade war. So maybe China is a good bet, with leadership change unlikely and strong domestic demands. Explains the strong performance of Eastspring Investments Global Emerging Markets Fund lately. QUOTE(old_and_slow @ Feb 22 2017, 12:10 AM) bought some ABERDEEN ISLAMIC WORLD EQUITY FUND - CLASS A last month seen the performance over last year, compared with mini-recession times in february and october, it seems stable despite rocky market. feel no worry buying. of course there are higher performing but if i want stability then have to sacrifice a bit  My IRR from this fund only 8%
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killdavid
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Feb 22 2017, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 22 2017, 10:49 AM) I would because I already placed measures to make sure I can withstand the fall out. plus I always believed a reset button is needed to every once awhile. look at 2008 American economical disaster. people see it as a recession. I see it as a lesson to everyone not not let banks do whatever shit they want which caused the problem to begin with. you never learn when you never fall. Then obama put in those stops on the banks. Now Trupm is taking away the stops. Another road to a big reset ?
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Avangelice
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Feb 22 2017, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Feb 22 2017, 10:57 AM) Then obama put in those stops on the banks. Now Trupm is taking away the stops. Another road to a big reset ?  well that's why I keep my allocation in us around 15% where as I'm heavily invested in Asia. I don't trust trump and I never will. America is going into a major reset button. it's inevitable. American populace have been ruled by liberals and politically correct politicians for far too long. that's my take on the current trend. let the populist vote their far left governments first. get things broken. get things fixed. it's all a circle.
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nick_linz
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Feb 22 2017, 12:55 PM
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Getting Started

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I'm still doing some readings before I buy my first unit trust. Why do you guys use FSM instead of getting it directly from the bank itself? I take this as an example: CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND FSMCIMBThe management and trustee fees offered by both CIMB and FSM are the same. Is the only difference here is the FSM 2% sales charges and the CIMB 6.5% application fees? Just trying to figure out which is platform would offer the lower management fees. Thanks. This post has been edited by nick_linz: Feb 22 2017, 12:55 PM
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SUSDavid83
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Feb 22 2017, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(nick_linz @ Feb 22 2017, 12:55 PM) I'm still doing some readings before I buy my first unit trust. Why do you guys use FSM instead of getting it directly from the bank itself? I take this as an example: CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND FSMCIMBThe management and trustee fees offered by both CIMB and FSM are the same. Is the only difference here is the FSM 2% sales charges and the CIMB 6.5% application fees? Just trying to figure out which is platform would offer the lower management fees. Thanks. Management fee is the same as the fund is managed by the same fund manager which is CIMB Principal. The major difference is the sales channel which you have highlighted there. Different sale channel will incur different sales charges in term of %.
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Ramjade
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Feb 22 2017, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(nick_linz @ Feb 22 2017, 12:55 PM) I'm still doing some readings before I buy my first unit trust. Why do you guys use FSM instead of getting it directly from the bank itself? I take this as an example: CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND FSMCIMBThe management and trustee fees offered by both CIMB and FSM are the same. Is the only difference here is the FSM 2% sales charges and the CIMB 6.5% application fees? Just trying to figure out which is platform would offer the lower management fees. Thanks. Fsm you kena charge only 2% for service charge. Sometimes even 0.5%. Cimb you kena charge 5%+. That's min 3% saving.
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puchongite
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Feb 22 2017, 01:13 PM
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CIMB and RHB fund prices still not updated. Trying to perform at par with eUT ? LOL
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quackpack
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Feb 22 2017, 01:15 PM
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I'm really glad I got past the time when every single news will make me nervous about my UTs. After going through Brexit , RHB and Trump, I learn my lesson and just let the fund manager do it's work. When we buy into the funds, we should really be firm and understand the risk involve with that fund.
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killdavid
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Feb 22 2017, 01:35 PM
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guys, those who have RHB EM bond fund, there was a huge drop of NAV >1 %. Is this due to the unit distribution ?
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