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puchongite
post Aug 17 2017, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Contestant @ Aug 17 2017, 02:52 PM)
Boss, not so easy to bid up the price lah. There are other players in the market. The major shareholders can sell one chunk to you if you bid too high.smile.gif
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Do it gradually.

And fail or give it up occasionally. That's part of the volatility. devil.gif

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post Aug 17 2017, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 17 2017, 01:05 PM)
I thought someone said that he picks the thinly traded counters and then gradually beat up the price, that's the reason for him to be able to achieve higher return ?
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Actually, most of small cap stocks are tiny traded counters, quite often no volume for the whole day.

Btw, stock is a zero sum game. If he want to buy certain stock (to jack up his stocks' price), he have to match the price with seller. If nobody want to sell the stock, he cannot buy, then cannot jack up the price.

Unless he offer a very high price with a few lots (compare to its holding) . if the bid match, can jack up the price significantly without jack up average buy in price significantly.

But, I didn't see this trend in the volume of Visdynamic/ techfast. The volume is consistent. EPS is growing qtq. they are healthy companies IMO.
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post Aug 17 2017, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Aug 17 2017, 02:09 PM)
Mana ada so geng?

10 year annualized is 8.XX%

5 year annualized is 8.XX%

Volatility = 18.XX%  doh.gif

Risk to reward ratio (3 years average) = 0.18  doh.gif

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p/s BTW, port balik to Black again. Where is the 20% drop? Masih ada yang nekad menunggu, yang masih rindu, masih berminpi, berkhayal, bersyiok sendiri.
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Xuzen, already masuk the way we discuss smile.gif

But still cant in during red tho... miss that few ringgit lol haha
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post Aug 17 2017, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(i1899 @ Aug 17 2017, 11:51 AM)
“We see things very differently,” he said. “I’m shut off to the market in a sense. If you ask me what is the level of the KLCI, I don’t even know.”

He definitely can think very differently, and his stock picks are very unique. That's the reason inter-pac fund can have extraordinary YTD return.
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KLCI is the index of a group of the largest companies in the country's stock exchange, alike Dow Jones, STI (Singapore) or HSI (Hong Kong). Good as a barometer to gauge the state of economy in general.

I don't think the incdex would be any help in picking stocks - especially those listed outside of the main board, in the ACE market.

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As an investor in UT funds, I think it is advisable to read the fund's prospectus to know what sort of stocks it can have. For example, for a small-cap fund, its prospectus would define what are the permissible stocks it can invest in - like being a component in the bursa small-cap index, capitalisation from 300 million to 1.2 billion. etc. etc.

If the fund is picking stocks in ACE, then it should not be compared to another small-cap fund holding stcoks in the small-cap index and compare only their returns without taking other factors into consideration. The risk is not the same. Extraodinary returns, extraodinary risk.








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post Aug 17 2017, 11:33 PM

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how do i select a maybank fund transfer if i want to buy a fund? i only see the cheque payment appearing after selecting the radio button for fpx/chequq/fund transfer
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post Aug 17 2017, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(selinix @ Aug 17 2017, 11:33 PM)
how do i select a maybank fund transfer if i want to buy a fund? i only see the cheque payment appearing after selecting the radio button for fpx/chequq/fund transfer
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you click on fpx button and it will direct you to the banks that are listed. simple.
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post Aug 18 2017, 07:44 AM

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Time to trim down US UT?

Lowering The US to Unattractive

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QUOTE(besiegetank @ Aug 18 2017, 07:44 AM)
Time to trim down US UT?

Lowering The US to Unattractive
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WOW, what a timing of coincident..... innocent.gif devil.gif


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post Aug 18 2017, 08:20 AM

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post Aug 18 2017, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(besiegetank @ Aug 18 2017, 07:44 AM)
Time to trim down US UT?

Lowering The US to Unattractive
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Wondering if I should move out my Titanic fund to other attractive region.
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QUOTE(iamoracle @ Aug 18 2017, 09:52 AM)
Wondering if I should move out my Titanic fund to other attractive region.
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diversification is the key....
just lower the % of allocation.....

WHY YOU SHOULD STILL HAVE THE US IN YOUR PORTFOLIO?

While we are advocating an underweight exposure, we are certainly not encouraging investors to get out of the US market entirely.
Many US corporations derive revenue not only domestically, but also from foreign markets such as Europe, Latin America and from various emerging markets due to their global nature.
Investors who are not exposed to US equities may be missing out from the revenue opportunities that US companies are capturing from foreign markets, particularly in regions that we are positive on (such as Asia ex Japan).

Additionally, we are not pessimistic on the economic prospects of the US; we are merely cognisant of aggregate valuation multiples of the equity market.
Economic momentum in the American economy remains robust, as we explain below.
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...e%E2%80%9D-8737
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post Aug 18 2017, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 17 2017, 11:50 PM)
you click on fpx button and it will direct you to the banks that are listed. simple.
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Thanks! sorry let me ask another newbie question if you don't mind.. what happen if i don't pay after i press confirm order, as i was just testing out the system. The order will just lapse by itself?
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QUOTE(selinix @ Aug 18 2017, 10:15 AM)
Thanks! sorry let me ask another newbie question if you don't mind.. what happen if i don't pay after i press confirm order, as i was just testing out the system. The order will just lapse by itself?
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FSM will chase you down and hunt you down until the end of the world devil.gif

laugh.gif *Joke aside, i think it will stays there until you void or pay hmm.gif
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post Aug 18 2017, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(besiegetank @ Aug 18 2017, 07:44 AM)
Time to trim down US UT?

Lowering The US to Unattractive
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Hantu pun dia cakap, orang pun dia cakap....

What to believe?

Hai! In the end... In Algozen™ ver 4 we trust.

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QUOTE(selinix @ Aug 18 2017, 10:15 AM)
Thanks! sorry let me ask another newbie question if you don't mind.. what happen if i don't pay after i press confirm order, as i was just testing out the system. The order will just lapse by itself?
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Put you in black list, CTOS + CCRIS. rclxs0.gif

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Aug 18 2017, 10:28 AM)
Hantu pun dia cakap, orang pun dia cakap....

What to believe?

Hai! In the end... In Algozen™ ver 4 we trust.

Xuzen
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I like the fact that Xuzen has often different views from FSM staff analysts.

Alternate views.
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Thanks! sorry let me ask another newbie question if you don't mind.. what happen if i don't pay after i press confirm order, as i was just testing out the system. The order will just lapse by itself?
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QUOTE(T231H @ Aug 18 2017, 10:58 AM)
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ramjade the day you are asking for has finally come. global markers are in jitters after Trump's failed economic dream crumbles and American stock traders are running.

lemme guess the drop is still very little. wait and see for it to drop further kan?
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 18 2017, 12:18 PM)
ramjade the day you are asking for has finally come. global markers are in jitters after Trump's failed economic dream crumbles and American stock traders are running.

lemme guess the drop is still very little. wait and see for it to drop further kan?
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1-2% no need to see. If one keeps jumping at every 1-2% drop, I wonder how will one will react if there's a sudden 10% drop rolleyes.gif Bagus, keep dropping baby drool.gif drool.gif
If one keeps topping up at every 1-2% drop, wonder how much does one have left to topup when there's a real 10-30% drop. cool2.gif

But realistically, could be only 10% drop or bull too strong so rebound sad.gif cry.gif To be honest, I don't think the day have come yet. The day will come if you still remembered how the S&P500 futures was a straight line downwards and make a reversal when Trump gave his speech.

The day will come when
1) Trump is arrested
2) Mr Kim launch a rocket to Guam
3) US/China default on payment

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