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post Jul 26 2017, 03:22 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 25 2017, 01:48 PM)
26 May 2017, first day managed portfolio was made available

Gosh, make me sound like FSM spoke person. Have both FSM SG and FSM MY managed portfolio  tongue.gif
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3% for me , but without sales charge you would have made 3.67% so ya I got beaten too.

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post Jul 26 2017, 09:44 AM

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post Jul 26 2017, 11:24 AM

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Hi guys, Is it possible to transfer in from a current Public Mutual PRS scheme into FSM's PRS?

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post Jul 26 2017, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Holyboy27 @ Jul 26 2017, 11:24 AM)
Hi guys, Is it possible to transfer in from a current Public Mutual PRS scheme into FSM's PRS?
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Of course.
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post Jul 26 2017, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(Holyboy27 @ Jul 26 2017, 11:24 AM)
Hi guys, Is it possible to transfer in from a current Public Mutual PRS scheme into FSM's PRS?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 26 2017, 11:26 AM)
Of course.
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Actually the answer is no. For Public Mutual funds invested in cash or EPF, in order to "transfer", you need to sell the public mutual funds and buy other funds available on FSM at 0% sales charge. So it's not really a transfer, more like a sell and buy for no service charge.

Because PRS has restriction to sell until retirement age. You can't sell and buy back
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 26 2017, 12:04 PM)
Actually the answer is no. For Public Mutual funds invested in cash or EPF, in order to "transfer", you need to sell the public mutual funds and buy other funds available on FSM at 0% sales charge. So it's not really a transfer, more like a sell and buy for no service charge.

Because PRS has restriction to sell until retirement age. You can't sell and buy back
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But you can switch tongue.gif
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post Jul 26 2017, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 26 2017, 12:04 PM)
Actually the answer is no. For Public Mutual funds invested in cash or EPF, in order to "transfer", you need to sell the public mutual funds and buy other funds available on FSM at 0% sales charge. So it's not really a transfer, more like a sell and buy for no service charge.

Because PRS has restriction to sell until retirement age. You can't sell and buy back
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Well thought out.
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post Jul 26 2017, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(skynode @ Jul 26 2017, 12:41 PM)
Well thought out.
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er.. what Ramjade said is "correct-er"

By structure/law - PRS can be SWITCHED between INTER-fund houses
Thus, dont need to redeem/sell from PubMut AND buy from FSM

However, pain as hell la the process & time
even within FSM itself, i SWITCHED from AffinHwang Growth to AmPRS REITs took... oh gawd.. + paperwork...
Not FSM's fault - it's the structure/flow for PRS SWITCHING between fund houses.

Just sharing "painful" experience - do-able but urgh..
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post Jul 26 2017, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 26 2017, 12:07 PM)
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Oh ya hor, forgot on the switching part. Subject to RM8 switching charge right?
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 26 2017, 12:50 PM)
er.. what Ramjade said is "correct-er"

By structure/law - PRS can be SWITCHED between INTER-fund houses
Thus, dont need to redeem/sell from PubMut AND buy from FSM

However, pain as hell la the process & time
even within FSM itself, i SWITCHED from AffinHwang Growth to AmPRS REITs took... oh gawd.. + paperwork...
Not FSM's fault - it's the structure/flow for PRS SWITCHING between fund houses.

Just sharing "painful" experience - do-able but urgh..
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That's why must know what PRS you want to buy. So no switching switching business bruce.gif bruce.gif
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 26 2017, 12:50 PM)
er.. what Ramjade said is "correct-er"

By structure/law - PRS can be SWITCHED between INTER-fund houses
Thus, dont need to redeem/sell from PubMut AND buy from FSM

However, pain as hell la the process & time
even within FSM itself, i SWITCHED from AffinHwang Growth to AmPRS REITs took... oh gawd.. + paperwork...
Not FSM's fault - it's the structure/flow for PRS SWITCHING between fund houses.

Just sharing "painful" experience - do-able but urgh..
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Thanks for the correction.

I'm too lazy for PRS switching. Anyway, for RM3k per year for tax relief, unless if the fund really suck big time, otherwise really not worth the effort

p/s: That sounded like a bad switch, AH Growth is doing much better than Am REITS sweat.gif
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 26 2017, 12:56 PM)
Oh ya hor, forgot on the switching part. Subject to RM8 switching charge right?
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got this from the PM site....



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post Jul 26 2017, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 26 2017, 01:00 PM)
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p/s: That sounded like a bad switch, AH Growth is doing much better than Am REITS  sweat.gif
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i got that 2x in a row.....
try beat that..... biggrin.gif
started with PM PRS....then to AH then to Amreits.... bangwall.gif


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post Jul 26 2017, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(Holyboy27 @ Jul 26 2017, 11:24 AM)
Hi guys, Is it possible to transfer in from a current Public Mutual PRS scheme into FSM's PRS?
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PRS inter house switching is called PRS Provider Transfer. I just did it in June, from Affin Hwang PRS Moderate to CIMB PRS. smile.gif

Just fill in the form at link below, send it with a copy of IC to Fundsupermart.
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/buyse...ransferForm.pdf

The total cost is RM25 + GST + Postage fee. If the amount is small, don't do it.
Please note that, it will take much much longer time compared with normal inter switching, around 4 weeks to reflect the transaction in FSM, around 3 weeks to reflects in www.prsmember.my.


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post Jul 26 2017, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 25 2017, 09:56 AM)
Not sure if anyone else is doing it. Compare managed portfolio returns with your DIY portfolio

So it's been 2 months since I bought the moderately aggressive portfolio
The ROI for managed portfolio is 2.64% net of 1% sales charge

My own portfolio grew 2.13% in the same period, and I did not incur any sales charge during this period

Managed portfolio 1: Me 0

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Did you top up (or sell ) your own portfolio since end of May.
Hmm... If you top up your own portfolio, it will reduce ROI.
I think, better use IRR for better comparison.


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post Jul 26 2017, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 26 2017, 12:57 PM)
That's why must know what PRS you want to buy. So no switching switching business  bruce.gif  bruce.gif
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 26 2017, 01:00 PM)
Thanks for the correction.

I'm too lazy for PRS switching. Anyway, for RM3k per year for tax relief, unless if the fund really suck big time, otherwise really not worth the effort

p/s: That sounded like a bad switch, AH Growth is doing much better than Am REITS  sweat.gif
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Aiya - went into good AH Growth
THEN as things progressed, Asset Allocation went too heavy into normal stocks/biz equities ma, thus wanted more REITs/RE equities exposure
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that time, everyone and their dog was running away from REITs coz Fed this/that (said to be increasing %). Remember?

I didnt SWITCH recently.. in fact, i saw a JUMP in my returns pa because of the "buy low". Anyhow, that's just icing on the cake - main reason is for more exposure to RE equities (my actual vs planned).

No right / wrong ya, just following my own steps/plans notworthy.gif
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post Jul 26 2017, 03:58 PM

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wow.. CIMB-Principal Greater China Equity Fund is the top volume fund in FSM. Hand itchy.. wanna follow as well

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 26 2017, 03:37 PM)
Aiya - went into good AH Growth
THEN as things progressed, Asset Allocation went too heavy into normal stocks/biz equities ma, thus wanted more REITs/RE equities exposure
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that time, everyone and their dog was running away from REITs coz Fed this/that (said to be increasing %). Remember?

I didnt SWITCH recently.. in fact, i saw a JUMP in my returns pa because of the "buy low". Anyhow, that's just icing on the cake - main reason is for more exposure to RE equities (my actual vs planned).

No right / wrong ya, just following my own steps/plans  notworthy.gif
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Ooh, so it's not a recent switch la. Better than uncle Looi's situation then. Anyway, for PRS now I'd go for the long term stable type instead of the flavor of the month/year
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QUOTE(HahaCat @ Jul 26 2017, 02:55 PM)
I have sold interpac.
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How long did you hold the fund?

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