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post Feb 10 2017, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 10 2017, 12:44 PM)
continue on!! there's more upside this year for malaysia with our elections coming in. if BN wins there will be more upside. sad to say foreign investors don't care about kronism and dictatorships. all they want is stability and status quo.
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This. It's common sense that everyone in the capitalist marketplace wants to see the capitalists in charge smile.gif
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post Feb 10 2017, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 10 2017, 12:44 PM)
continue on!! there's more upside this year for malaysia with our elections coming in. if BN wins there will be more upside. sad to say foreign investors don't care about kronism and dictatorships. all they want is stability and status quo.
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What do you think friend Avangelice?

Do you care who is in charge of Thailand, be it the red shirt or yellow shirt? As a investor, do you put much emphasis on cronyism and dictatorship when you invest into Thailand?
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post Feb 10 2017, 02:49 PM

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Hi Sifus, I plan to start invest some of my saving to prepare as future fund for my growing baby.

What fund you all can suggest? I am newbie to unit trust thing.
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post Feb 10 2017, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(erictham83 @ Feb 10 2017, 02:49 PM)
Hi Sifus, I plan to start invest some of my saving to prepare as future fund for my growing baby.

What fund you all can suggest? I am newbie to unit trust thing.
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welcome. this is your first step to a better understanding of how the world works. first things first, do you have an fsm account? next is what are your projected returns you are looking for a year? and what risk can you accept as in, are you ok with 10% returns but also the possiblity of 10% negative returns in a span of three years?
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post Feb 10 2017, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 10 2017, 01:46 PM)
Philippines increased so much ? That together with Malaysia small cap have pushed Ponzi 1.0 up.
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STI also raise quite substantially tongue.gif

QUOTE(erictham83 @ Feb 10 2017, 02:49 PM)
Hi Sifus, I plan to start invest some of my saving to prepare as future fund for my growing baby.

What fund you all can suggest? I am newbie to unit trust thing.
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You may read through al guides and FAQ in FSM website, as well as starting from the recommended funds and portfolio smile.gif
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post Feb 10 2017, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 10 2017, 12:13 PM)
I think I will stick to DCA. Reason as below:

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p/s I will continue with my slow and steady (tortoise speed) DCA into Asia Pac ex japan UTF. Don't be greedy, earn enough = happy liao. Lesson learned: Most important in life is can sleep soundly in bed.
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When did you enter the China fund ? I looked at the chart, it is twinned peaked at around May15 and Oct 15, if you had entered at other time, your losses won't be 15-20%.
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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Feb 9 2017, 05:19 PM)
How often do you speak to algozen? Monthly? Weekly?
If on the next session it still says the same thing, maybe we should all sailang laugh.gif
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What is Algozen?
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post Feb 10 2017, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(skynode @ Feb 10 2017, 04:01 PM)
What is Algozen?
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His personal crystal ball.
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post Feb 10 2017, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(erictham83 @ Feb 10 2017, 02:49 PM)
Hi Sifus, I plan to start invest some of my saving to prepare as future fund for my growing baby.

What fund you all can suggest? I am newbie to unit trust thing.
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rclxms.gif welcome to this forum and it is a good thing that you starts to plan for it this early.

may I suggest you study an estimation of how much you needed to have (goal) to prepare as future fund for your growing baby and by when you needed to see that goal value (time horizon).

after you had the goal value, and the horizon (time frame)
then you determine how much you can set aside each month to reach that goal.

then surf the net....look for financial calculator to determine how much % of ROI pa you needed to generate with the monthly saving and time duration you have so that you can reach that goal value.

then see if there is a possibility to get ROI yearly with unit trusts funds......most probably you will need to have another investment vehicle....

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post Feb 10 2017, 03:42 PM

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potential energy bar for those planning to go all out in equities.....
Where Are We in The Global Investment Cycle? What Does This Mean for Investors? [10 Feb]

"Investment implication:
.... while corrections should be anticipated – with Trump and upcoming Eurozone elections being potential triggers – we still appear to be a long way from the peak in the investment cycle. Second, non-US share markets and economies – notably Japan and Europe - are less advanced in their cycles and so provide opportunities for investors. "

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...s--10-Feb--7978
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post Feb 10 2017, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 10 2017, 02:15 PM)
What do you think friend Avangelice?

Do you care who is in charge of Thailand, be it the red shirt or yellow shirt? As a investor, do you put much emphasis on cronyism and dictatorship when you invest into Thailand?
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to be honest foreign investors don't rather care if the red or yellow were to win, they do not even care about if the people are being oppressed. as long as there's stability in the region they will happily invest in either Goverment.

another example would be in the US, we all know trump is a bigot. an anti Islam. a person who's very much like Hitler but does that stop me from investing in the states?

another example, Malaysia. its economy doesn't do well do I still keep my investments in it just because I'm patriotic or do I pull out so my money is better left elsewhere?

so to conclude. investors don't invests in emotions. I am afraid to say each one of us has a soros inside that does not care who is affected as long as we make money at the end of the day.

QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 10 2017, 03:42 PM)
potential energy bar for those planning to go all out in equities.....
Where Are We in The Global Investment Cycle? What Does This Mean for Investors? [10 Feb]

"Investment implication:
.... while corrections should be anticipated – with Trump and upcoming Eurozone elections being potential triggers – we still appear to be a long way from the peak in the investment cycle. Second, non-US share markets and economies – notably Japan and Europe - are less advanced in their cycles and so provide opportunities for investors. "

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...s--10-Feb--7978
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can fsm start making a mobile website? every article you share cannot be viewed on mobile because of plug in not supported.


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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 10 2017, 02:57 PM)
When did you enter the China fund ? I looked at the chart, it is twinned peaked at around May15 and Oct 15, if you had entered at other time, your losses won't be 15-20%.
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I entered in mid Apr 2015 and exited in end of Sep 2015.... (CIMB Principle Greater China)
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 10 2017, 04:22 PM)
to be honest foreign investors don't rather care if the red or yellow were to win, they do not even care about if the people are being oppressed. as long as there's stability in the region they will happily invest in either Goverment.

another example would be in the US, we all know trump is a bigot. an anti Islam. a person who's very much like Hitler but does that stop me from investing in the states?

another example, Malaysia. its economy doesn't do well do I still keep my investments in it just because I'm patriotic or do I pull out so my money is better left elsewhere?

so to conclude. investors don't invests in emotions. I am afraid to say each one of us has a soros inside that does not care who is affected as long as we make money at the end of the day.
can fsm start making a mobile website? every article you share cannot be viewed on mobile because of plug in not supported.
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Actually you can view it on mobile, by click the download link ( somewhere at the top left hand corner).

Basically it is a PDF document.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 10 2017, 04:51 PM)
Actually you can view it on mobile, by click the download link ( somewhere at the top left hand corner).

Basically it is a PDF document.
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that's the thing I wanna avoid. clutter in my phone memory. oh well. thanks mate
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 10 2017, 04:53 PM)
that's the thing I wanna avoid. clutter in my phone memory. oh well. thanks mate
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The thing is that pdf is not a property of FSM. so they cannot just embeded the article in the website just like that sweat.gif
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post Feb 10 2017, 05:07 PM

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The thing is that pdf is not a property of FSM. so they cannot just embeded the article in the website just like that sweat.gif
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The way I see it is that, this is a limitation on the browser. Even if you use FSM mobile app, it still uses browser technology to view FSM site info. Both chrome and firefox also can't handle this pdf embedding thing. It is ok on PC.
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 10 2017, 04:48 PM)
I entered in mid Apr 2015 and exited in end of Sep 2015.... (CIMB Principle Greater China)
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Yeah this clearly shows the risk of lump sum entry into a fund.

Even DCA, is there a recommendation on DCA method, something like 10% DCA per week or per month ? Is there a rule of thumb ?
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 10 2017, 04:48 PM)
I entered in mid Apr 2015 and exited in end of Sep 2015.... (CIMB Principle Greater China)
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you overzealous? buy and sell within the same year. and looks like you missed the upside after that. ever had any regret over the lost?

don't worry I made the same mistake with GTF back in 2015. traded it like it was a stock. noob mistake on my part.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 10 2017, 05:11 PM)
Yeah this clearly shows the risk of lump sum entry into a fund.

Even DCA, is there a recommendation on DCA method, something like 10% DCA per week or per month ? Is there a rule of thumb ?
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if dont know the risk, just dca monthly

if crisis happens, top up each time it drops like 5%

just a thought smile.gif

QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 10 2017, 05:15 PM)
you overzealous? buy and sell within the same year. and looks like you missed the upside after that. ever had any regret over the lost?

don't worry I made the same mistake with GTF back in 2015. traded it like it was a stock. noob mistake on my part.
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I think we should not sell based on up and down if you can't predict the movement, we sell only if the fund has a better outlook and potential than the current fund given the same league smile.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 10 2017, 05:11 PM)
Yeah this clearly shows the risk of lump sum entry into a fund.

Even DCA, is there a recommendation on DCA method, something like 10% DCA per week or per month ? Is there a rule of thumb ?
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His mistake is to exit so soon. He make lost. If wait a while more and exit when break even better.
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