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post Feb 9 2017, 11:11 AM, updated 8y ago

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Fundsupermart.com (FSM) Malaysia is the online unit trust distribution arm of iFAST Capital Sdn. Bhd. ("iFAST Capital").

iFAST Capital is a holder of a Capital Markets Services Licence (CMSL) and is licensed by the Securities Commission to conduct the following regulated activities:

- To deal in unit trusts
- To offer investment advisory services
- To deal in Private Retirement Scheme

iFAST Capital is also registered with the Federation of Investment Managers Malaysia (FiMM) as an Institutional Unit Trust Adviser (IUTA).

iFAST Capital is a subsidiary of iFAST Malaysia Sdn. Bhd., which is wholly owned by iFAST Corporation Ltd. ("iFAST Corporation"). iFAST Corporation is headquartered in Singapore and the iFAST group of companies are also present in Hong Kong, Malaysia and China. The company was incorporated in Singapore on 10 January 2000.

iFAST Corporation was listed on the Singapore Exchange Mainboard in December 2014.

iFAST Corporation, via its wholly owned subsidiary iFAST Financial Pte. Ltd., is Singapore's leading online distributor of unit trusts as well as the leading operator of an investment platform for financial advisers and financial institutions. It carries the Capital Markets Services (CMS) and Financial Adviser (FA) licences issued by the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS), and is also one of three appointed Central Provident Board (CPF) Investment Administrators.

One of iFAST Corporation's shareholders is SPH AsiaOne Ltd, the Internet arm of Singapore Press Holdings, which is Singapore's largest media group. In recent years, iFAST Corporation has been expanding beyond local shores. In 2007, iFAST Corporation launched its first overseas business, Fundsupermart in Hong Kong and in 2008, it launched Fundsupermart in Malaysia. iFAST Corporation launched its office in China in 2014.

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1. Wide range of information
2. Extensive product range and value-added services
3. One of the cheapest Sales Charges in town! thumbup.gif
To keep discussions at this thread fruitful and constructive, it would be greatly appreciated that fellow investors try to look for answer to their queries at Frequently Asked Questions before posting here. icon_rolleyes.gif

And FSM has a very helpful LIVE Customer Service, MAKE FULL USE OF THEM. Look for this at FSM home page:
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What is unit trust?
Federation of Investment Managers Malaysia - ABC of Unit Trusts

Other FAQs on Fundsupermart.com and unit trust investing in general

1. NAV pricing and processing time
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2. The NAV price of the fund that I'm interested in is quite high now, should I stay away? Investment gurus always say "buy low, sell high"...
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FSM Idea Of The Week: Unit Split and High Fund Price Misconceptions [24 October 2014]
3. Common misconceptions about unit trust dividends/distributions:

(i) After dividend distribution, NAV price will go down, the fund will become cheaper.
(ii) A fund that declares dividends is better than a fund that does not, dividends are my profit, they make me richer.

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(iii) Topping up my holdings after dividend distribution pulls down my cost per unit, lower cost = higher profit.
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(iv) Distribution = Income

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4. Annual Management Charge, Trustee Fee and NAV pricing
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5. Return On Investment (ROI) vs Annualised Return, similar to Internal Rate of Return (IRR)
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Important link to v8 - The MS Excel Masterclass version!

Download here >>> Pinky's Portfolio Worksheet with IRR Calculation

Download here >>> Pinky's Portfolio Worksheet with IRR Calculation

Download here >>> polarzbearz's Portfolio Summary / Spreadsheet Conversion Tool
2.2B Stable Version: http://bit.ly/polarzbearzPortfolioSummary2b (this is the previous stable version patched for FSMOne)
3.1 Latest Version: http://bit.ly/polarzbearzPortfolioSummaryv31a
FSM Conversion Tool (only compatible with v3.1): http://bit.ly/polarzbearzPortfolioSummaryConversionToolv31a
For more detailed release note / instructions, please read this post
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Make sure you read the instructions as many of the cells have formula in it. You can freely modify, update, or change it to suit your needs (and even share with others if you don't mind tongue.gif )

For Mac Users (credit to idyllrain):
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Performance data for most Malaysia funds (inclusive of non-FSM available funds like funds available in the respective insurance companies) (credit to dasecret) : iPortfolio

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Happy investing! rclxms.gif

Disclaimer -
I am not a UT agent, nor am I employed by FSM. All my comments here are posted in good faith and with the intention to share knowledge. I am not to be held liable for any losses that may be incurred as a result of following any advice/opinion shared here. I believe the same should be applicable for any other LYN members posting here.
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post Feb 9 2017, 11:12 AM

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Continue from FundSuperMart v17 (FSM) MY

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Ponzi 1.0 ---> Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Quantum Fund

Ponzi 2.0 ---> CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund

Evergreen Fund / Lee Sook Yee   wub.gif  wub.gif  ---> Kenanga Growth Fund

Aladdin Fund ---> Aberdeen Islamic World Equity Fund

Kap Chai Fund  ---> Eastspring Investment Small-Cap Fund

Titanic Fund  ---> CIMB-Principle Global Titan Fund

Anitamui Fund ---> Libra Asnita Bond Fund

Esther Bond / Esther Teo   wub.gif  wub.gif  ---> Affin Hwang Select Bond Fund (MYR)

Selina REIT / Selina Yong wub.gif  wub.gif  ---> AmAsia Pacific REITs - Class B (MYR) 

p/s: Reason for nickname Ponzi Because of its impressive return in short term (historical)

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post Feb 9 2017, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 9 2017, 11:21 AM)
lol. more and more names for them funds.

btw Anita no more a darling when we got esther

Avangelice reporting in!
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Nonetheless, anita is still a good fund compared to other local bond funds. It can be a supplement for those who seek diversification into local market smile.gif
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post Feb 9 2017, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(ketnave @ Feb 9 2017, 11:35 AM)
How does Libra Asnita Bond Fund (or other bond funds) differs from Money Market Fund (Cash Mgmt Fund) ?
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Money Market Fund mainly invest in super short term maturity bonds and FD (mostly up to one year) (high liquidity and stable yield due to less risk exposure)

Whereas Fixed Income Fund can invest in varying maturity of bonds (Higher yield but take on more risk comapred to MMF depending on the type of bond invested)

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post Feb 9 2017, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(OptimusStar @ Feb 9 2017, 07:19 PM)
My concern would be what is the general strategy? So diverse into another fund is that what you say ?
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I think you need to understand that NAV =/= stock price.

NAV is just the net asset per unit, it doesn't work the same as share price where the price reflect the financial health of the company.

High NAV doesn't mean is going to bear and vice versa

Same for distribution, where in mutual funds, the distribution is just a way to reduce the NAV to make it look attractive, unlike stock dividend where the dividend yield shows the company's profitability

Funds which dont declare distribution doesn't mean the fund is performing badly and vice versa

Rather, you should focus on whether the regions or the sectors that the funds invested is going to bull or bear in the short/mid/long term depending on your investment horizon and risk appetite.

If you think that both funds will bear till it net your profit back to zero in say the near 1 year term, then you can sell to realized that profit to somewhere else like bonds or money market or FD or other funds that invested in regions/sectors that has potential bull in the period you expected
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post Feb 9 2017, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 9 2017, 10:32 PM)
for those undecided , fickle minded or those prefering all you can type buffer style.... try CIMB threesome fun
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This one has better RRR compared to the three individual countries' fund

EDIT : nvm, you edited after i post laugh.gif

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post Feb 10 2017, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(mois @ Feb 10 2017, 10:34 AM)
Want to ask a simple question. Lets say we buy certain fund from CIMB through fundsupermart. If i walk in CIMB branch, i can check my records there or all things at FSM?
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nope, the fund you bought via fsm is under ifast name, not your name
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post Feb 10 2017, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 10 2017, 10:51 AM)
Anybody knows how could I monitor the Malaysia Small Cap stock index on real time basis ?
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If you have a stock trading account, that should do the job no?
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post Feb 10 2017, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 10 2017, 11:29 AM)
I concur. that's why I left a little allocation into kapchai and any spare money I have I dump into my stock account. with plenty of homework and time, you can buy into stocks that bring dividends and returns. all for 0.25% "service fee"
theoretically speaking. if we have quarterly reports from the fund managers on what they have done with the fund, wouldn't it be easier to buy into the same stocks that the fund invests?

example. KGF invests into MAHB and Tenaga and PBB. with additional research you find out KWSP invests into Tenaga so it makes sense to buy into Tenaga?
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But I do not have enough money to invest directly with reasonable commission rate due to minimum commission sad.gif

Only have around 100-200 per month for Malaysia market, also need one year to buy just a stock with reasonable commission rate
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 10 2017, 01:46 PM)
Philippines increased so much ? That together with Malaysia small cap have pushed Ponzi 1.0 up.
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STI also raise quite substantially tongue.gif

QUOTE(erictham83 @ Feb 10 2017, 02:49 PM)
Hi Sifus, I plan to start invest some of my saving to prepare as future fund for my growing baby.

What fund you all can suggest? I am newbie to unit trust thing.
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You may read through al guides and FAQ in FSM website, as well as starting from the recommended funds and portfolio smile.gif
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 10 2017, 04:53 PM)
that's the thing I wanna avoid. clutter in my phone memory. oh well. thanks mate
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The thing is that pdf is not a property of FSM. so they cannot just embeded the article in the website just like that sweat.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 10 2017, 05:11 PM)
Yeah this clearly shows the risk of lump sum entry into a fund.

Even DCA, is there a recommendation on DCA method, something like 10% DCA per week or per month ? Is there a rule of thumb ?
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if dont know the risk, just dca monthly

if crisis happens, top up each time it drops like 5%

just a thought smile.gif

QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 10 2017, 05:15 PM)
you overzealous? buy and sell within the same year. and looks like you missed the upside after that. ever had any regret over the lost?

don't worry I made the same mistake with GTF back in 2015. traded it like it was a stock. noob mistake on my part.
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I think we should not sell based on up and down if you can't predict the movement, we sell only if the fund has a better outlook and potential than the current fund given the same league smile.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 10 2017, 05:33 PM)
My question is more like asking if I have a x amount of money to switch over to a fund X.

Yes, DCA monthly but how much ? If DCA per month 5%, that's will never complete in a year !
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 10 2017, 05:33 PM)
try to limit double posting.

any how. the xuzen we know now is different back then and we all make mistakes. take it as a valuable tuition fee. no harm done.
exactly my concern. I have an huge amount of money sitting in the CMF and I go do monthly DCA. wouldn't it be wasting your money 's potential by just letting it stay in cmf.
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If you ask me, I will say dca minimum amount sweat.gif

But I can suggest divide into 6/12/18/24 period of dca, each period can be fortnightly, monthly, bi-monthly or quarterly smile.gif

If it experience downfall, everytime it drops 2-5% from your capital, top up like 100-1000 and repeat until it rise back (of course not until the fund collapse if you did your homework about the fund sweat.gif)

Just a thought smile.gif

I am too young to experience long period investing or any crisis, so this is just a suggestion smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 10 2017, 11:03 PM)
FSM gave me an email regarding  Manulife AP REITS meeting to increase no. of distribution/year  sweat.gif  doh.gif  laugh.gif
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Will be interested to know what is your view on this? tongue.gif

How will it impact the fund, if any at all? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 10 2017, 11:14 PM)
I am always pro dividend cause it let me buy more units for holding long term. tongue.gif 
But sadly I am not going to vote or buy anymore because my all Phillip SG stuff arrived and my account is ready  tongue.gif  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif Time to plan the withdrawal and next trip down to SG.  drool.gif
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dang bojio, I am still waiting mine sweat.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(2387581 @ Feb 10 2017, 11:15 PM)
Go to the bank, talk to the RM, when you happy with the RM's advise and decided to buy a certain fund, go ahead and buy minimum, then on your way out of the bank, login to FSM and sailang. There you "DCA" on the sales charge into the same fund. If you buy 1k from the bank at 5.5%, then 9k from FSM on 2%, you'll have the best of both sides with an average sales charge of 2.35% in the example above.
I guess trying to make the NAV looks attractive, and more uninformed investors see "wah dividends", money pouring in, more business, higher demand, drives up the price.
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actually, if you know how to utilize FSM client help and CIS, you can save the bank RM part tongue.gif

QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 10 2017, 11:20 PM)
LOL.. one of these days I might join you.. how high can SGD/MYR get.. smile.gif
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To me, is more like there are better mutual funds for certain regions in SG (at least when I am still earning peanut salary, will still focus on mutual funds biggrin.gif )
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Feb 11 2017, 11:57 AM)
Wow, wow. Do you even understand what I said?

I made a statement that Asia is undervalued. I made a statement that most Asian indices are below their highs of early 2015. I made a statement that China has released great trade data on Friday. I made a statement that Trump has warmed up to China and Japan.

Four statements. All to back up my point that Asia may still have much room to trend upwards, and that a correction may not be due after all in the near term (1-2 months) in Asia.

I'm sorry but I don't speak in absolutes. Only a fool will do so when speaking about financial markets.

You seem to be a very problematic person to deal with.
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Your view is appreciated and benefiial for discussion, but could you tune down the arrogant tone? sweat.gif

I think when you pose something that is not sure, you should follow up a suggestion that what would you do given this uncertain situation. You see, in majority of the financial reports, even though the view may contradict our thoughts or the event depends on different analysis, at least they have a conclusive ending for their view, be it in the right direction or jiberish.

Please look at yourself before critic others.

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 11 2017, 12:17 PM)
I have never participated in AHAM Quantum aka Ponzi 1.0. It got rejected by Algozen™ so far, perhaps because of its unfavourable risk to reward ratio. Somehow when imputed into Algozen™, she is consistently in favour of Ponzi Two aka CIMB Asia - Pac ex Japan Dynamic fund.

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Despite focusing in ASEAN, ponzi 1 turns out to have better RRR than Ponzi 2, prehaps aussie, chinese and indians are very volatile these 3 years sweat.gif

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 11 2017, 02:08 PM)
Friend AIYH,
The statement you made, is incorrect as shown below. Perhaps your data is not up to date? Or perhaps you need a trip to an optometrist?
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Hmm last week when I check, ponzi 1 volatility is 9.7x and RRR 1.4x while ponzi 2 is having 12.2x and RRR 1.21 sweat.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 11 2017, 02:34 PM)
Quite number of times I heard that investing in UTF is more expensive than buying stock market directly. So, let me do some number crunching for the benefit of all.

Stock-market
My knowledge of stock market is a bit out-dated and my info is based on my last time when I was a stock market participant through OSK Investment Bank (many years ago, and at that time, calling your broker on the phone is still common). The charge levied upon me is 0.6%. Min brokerage is MYR 40.00 per transaction. So, to maximize the transaction, each tranche should be 40 divided by 0.006 equal to MYR 6,666.67. Anything below this MYR 6,666.67 threshold, you will still pay MYR 40.00 broker fee as that is the minimum.

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For UTF, you pay 2% entrance fee each time you inject fresh capital. MYR 2,000.00 x 2% equals to MYR 40.00. Lets say you pump in MYR 200.00 x 2% = MYR 4.00 entrance fee.

The above I want to highlight is that often people will say UTF fee is expensive. But they forget to put it into proper context or perspective. When you buy a stock, unless your capital injected per transaction is large, the percentage you pay as broker fee is actually more substantial than UTF.

If you are a small ikan-bilis player and only have like MYR 200 per month to invest, which method gives you a more cost efficient way  access to the stock market?

So, many are repeating something they read from somewhere or something they heard from someone, without further investigating, and they prematurely think that UTF is expensive.

Not so, if your amount is small. Stock can be more expensive. And don't forget, stock is charged both ways... that is entry and exit. So the total cost = 0.6 x 2 = 1.2%. Not that far from UTF.
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Currently, CIMB offer brokerage commission 0.0388% (min RM 8.88) per stock per day, if 2 ways then min RM 17.76, but currently, regardless of brokers, you will need to pay bursa clearing fee (0.03%) and government stamp duty fee (RM1 per 1k trading block max RM200), and dont forget about GST sweat.gif

Significantly cheaper now compared to what you experienced, but for ikan bilis like me, UT cheaper laugh.gif

p/s: still struggling to whether keep KGF or kapchai sweat.gif

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QUOTE(wonglokat @ Feb 11 2017, 03:03 PM)
AIYH bro i had the same thought about having just one* even though they carve out their own segment in the same market as it's been pointed out many versions back that both are correlated.

*that early days of jumping atop the most glitzy wagon to chase returns thinking heck, let's di(worse?)versify in the local market.

Since they both make up about 22% and both in the green, I'm undecided. Most probably sell off then and dump the measly amount into local stocks.
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Problem is I am still young (work within a year) and what I have now isn't sufficient to effectively invest in local stock market (unlike mutual fund which the fund manager study those stocks for you), you will need to study individual stocks from various sectors and decide which will have the most potential (easier for mutual funds since they diversified), not to mention the minimum commission is killing when small amount of capital (assumed comparison to fsm/eunittrust where SC is already minimize, put management expense aside)

Probably things will change when I have a pay rise and more experience in studying them to analyze and make a better decision to dump Malaysian UT

***Unless anyone can suggest highly potential penny stock, suggestions are highly appreciated as I am considering this tongue.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(2387581 @ Feb 11 2017, 03:10 PM)
The thing is KGF is also kinda heavy in small cap section and closely track with FBMSC (although they have a fair share in big cap), so is KGF more diversified in long term compared to kap chai which only focus on small cap?

But aside from KGF, kenanga really lacks of any other funds that can shine in other segments (unlike eastspring which beside kap chai, they have other funds which can be the best in Malaysia, on par with Affin Hwang and CIMB principal, although may not be if sg mutual funds offer better option)

Just wish others can help me with some more info to make a more informed and convincing decision sweat.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 11 2017, 03:37 PM)
But if you consider cost and experience from youngster standpoint (like us), mutual fund (provided you go with fsm/eunittrust to minimize fee) is a good starting point for investment.

Once you gather enough experience in analyzing and selecting stocks, then you can dump the mutual funds for that segment you invest smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 11 2017, 04:06 PM)
Agreed. But don't shoot me. I just sharing Dividend Magic post.  tongue.gif
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I understand that according to his post, but he did not consider each individual's analytics and financial capability in choosing and investing their own stock selection smile.gif

My point is, don't take the advice as absolute, learn from it, and evaluate it time to time, once you have the capability, no harm to go one step further to try new things, provided you do your homework smile.gif

This is after all, our improvement in financial planning as we gather more wealth and understand more about our investment option and risk appetite smile.gif

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