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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post Jun 3 2017, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 3 2017, 03:23 PM)
it is not everyday or 6 days a week and there is NO guaranteed interest to be paid also.
this CMF comes with risk too....namely like

Principal Risks:
Credit/default risk 
Inflation/purchasing power risk 
Returns are not guaranteed

more info about CMF
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/0...ent-Fund-2-9718
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As per my understanding, it is a type of UT, historically, the NAV is increased everyday, and return in a year is approximately 3.3%++ for 2017. What I will get is the NAV price difference when purchase and selling, with 0% sales charge, right?

What is the recommended way to fund CMF (Fastest way to get it transacted)?

This post has been edited by celaw: Jun 3 2017, 02:43 PM
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post Jun 3 2017, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(celaw @ Jun 3 2017, 02:35 PM)
As per my understanding, it is a type of UT, historically, the NAV is increased everyday, and return in a year is approximately 3.3%++ for 2017. What I will get is the NAV price difference when purchase and selling, with 0% sales charge, right?

What is the recommended way to fund CMF (Fastest way to get it transacted)?
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Yeah.. just T+2.. rclxm9.gif
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post Jun 3 2017, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jun 3 2017, 03:49 PM)
Yeah.. just T+2..  rclxm9.gif
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How about the fastest way and most convenient way to fund Fundsupermart / CMF? Use fund transfer, fpx or Maybank Online Bill Payment method? Which way is fastest and don't have limit of amount?

This post has been edited by celaw: Jun 3 2017, 02:58 PM
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post Jun 3 2017, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(celaw @ Jun 3 2017, 02:56 PM)
How about the fastest way and most convenient way to fund Fundsupermart / CMF? Use fund transfer, fpx or Maybank Online Bill Payment method? Which way is fastest and don't have limit of amount?
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I been using fpx for a long time. never had any issue and the amount limit from your bank side not fsm
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post Jun 3 2017, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 3 2017, 04:15 PM)
I been using fpx for a long time. never had any issue and the amount limit from your bank side not fsm
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1. Do you being charged RM0.50/transaction?

2. You did transaction before 3pm so that your purchase of UT taken place on the same day?
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post Jun 3 2017, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(celaw @ Jun 3 2017, 03:26 PM)
1. Do you being charged RM0.50/transaction?

2. You did transaction before 3pm so that your purchase of UT taken place on the same day?
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1. no
2. yes
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post Jun 3 2017, 04:19 PM

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Is it possible for one fund with a higher Risk Return Ratio (RRR) than another fund to have a lower Sharpe Ratio than the same fund? If yes, how is that possible?
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post Jun 3 2017, 05:29 PM

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a noob question here cause i am new to FSM,
for example now i am already targeting 5 funds and plan to invest soon, so i have to perform 5 transactions to buy the 5 funds right?
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post Jun 3 2017, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(walkman660 @ Jun 3 2017, 05:29 PM)
a noob question here cause i am new to FSM,
for example now i am already targeting 5 funds and plan to invest soon, so i have to perform 5 transactions to buy the 5 funds right?
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yes
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post Jun 3 2017, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 3 2017, 05:33 PM)
yes
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post Jun 3 2017, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(Nom-el @ Jun 3 2017, 04:19 PM)
Is it possible for one fund with a higher Risk Return Ratio (RRR) than another fund to have a lower Sharpe Ratio than the same fund? If yes, how is that possible?
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while waiting for responses....
try play with the data in formulas from tis articles....
to see if that is possible or not...

Two Ratios to Measure a Fund’s Risk Factor
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...isk-Factor--110

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post Jun 3 2017, 07:54 PM

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Activity for June 2017:

Based on Algozen™ ver. 4 outcome, I have:

I) Exit completely my India exposure with a 30% ROI

II) Reduce my AmReits exposure

III) Move RHB AIF to RHB EMB

IV) Increase TA-GTF

V) Reenter KGF.

Xuzen
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post Jun 3 2017, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 3 2017, 07:54 PM)
Activity for June 2017:

Based on Algozen™ ver. 4 outcome, I have:

I) Exit completely my India exposure with a 30% ROI

II) Reduce my AmReits exposure

III) Move RHB AIF to RHB EMB

IV) Increase TA-GTF

V) Reenter KGF.

Xuzen
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here comes the obligatory panic from members if they should dump their India fund which they just purchased.
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post Jun 3 2017, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 3 2017, 08:26 PM)
here comes the obligatory panic from members if they should dump their India fund which they just purchased.
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Hahaha, that's exactly my thought, BTW situ xuzen, what's the rationale this time?
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post Jun 3 2017, 09:24 PM

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I think those aiming for more aggresive style should still keep India. Even FSM still think India is attractive.
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post Jun 3 2017, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jun 3 2017, 09:22 PM)
Hahaha, that's exactly my thought, BTW situ xuzen, what's the rationale this time?
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He is going to change his port composition to optimse on roi, risk return & correlation....he is putting his money on what he posted.

QUOTE(besiegetank @ Jun 3 2017, 09:24 PM)
I think those aiming for more aggresive style should still keep India. Even FSM still think India is attractive.
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Yes....but ..fsm suggested india to be in supplementary and not more than 10% as india mkts is volatile n it is a single country fund.....

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post Jun 3 2017, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 3 2017, 08:26 PM)
here comes the obligatory panic from members if they should dump their India fund which they just purchased.
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And the people who think he just made 30% on his portfolio smile.gif
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post Jun 3 2017, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 3 2017, 08:26 PM)
here comes the obligatory panic from members if they should dump their India fund which they just purchased.
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I participated in India fund since the start of 2015 and it gave me a ROI of 30% within two and a half year period; 11% if annualized.

Yes, according to Algozen™ ver. 4, the higher or more aggresive port still feature India, but those moderate to aggresive moderate port do not have India.

With regards to how much to allocate India in the aggresive port, I have to recheck my data. It is contain therein my laptop and I left it in my office. I will update you guys and gal on Monday when I am back in my office.

Xuzen
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post Jun 3 2017, 10:50 PM

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keep your Indias if you just purchased them people! remember this ain't stock trading. you incur costs if you keep shifting from one fund to another. xuzen can do it because he has a wrap account unlike all of us.
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QUOTE(Nom-el @ Jun 3 2017, 04:19 PM)
Is it possible for one fund with a higher Risk Return Ratio (RRR) than another fund to have a lower Sharpe Ratio than the same fund? If yes, how is that possible?
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There are cases like this. I believe this is due to the inconsistent risk free rate that is used to calculate the Sharpe Ratio. That is why, for the purpose of expediency, I ignore Sharpe and just go for RRR. It is more straight - forward and uncomplicated.

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