QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 12 2017, 10:34 PM)
Prehaps I am not good in expressing myself, so I will try to make a simplistic example to express my question:
Say we have 2k to invest, 1k in stock A and 1k in stock B
Say Stock A is a dividend stock where they declare yearly dividend of 3%, and annual capital growth 10%
Say Stock B is a growth stock and also annual capital growth 10%
Assumed both have share price @ RM2 at the time you invest both at the same time
If after one year, your value in stock A grow to RM 1100 and declare dividend, if you did not reinvest the dividend, you will have RM33 dividend received and your capital is left with same 500 shares @ RM 2.134 value RM 1067
Suppose you reinvest the dividend into it @ RM 2.134 and received 15.46 shares, you will have 515.46 shares @ RM 2.134 value RM 1100
Stock B, without dividend declare, enjoy yearly 10% capital growth every year, so 1st year will grow to rm 1100 as well
Assume each year is having the same trend for simplistic purpose, wouldnt both stock have the same capital growth value if you opt for dividend reinvestment?
Unless as you said, you take the dividend declare for living purpose, but if you did not reinvest the dividend, wouldnt your capital in the stock decrease every year after the dividend declared? And assume the dividend yield and capital growth remain the same, wouldnt your dividend received become less and less after each year?
Unless I am confusing myself in something else, I am trying to understand more
Because if one opt for dividend reinvestment, I cannot see the difference between dividend stock and growth stock in performance wise if they enjoy the same capital growth (unless what set them apart by their difference in fundamental that will caused them to grow differently?
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Say we have 2k to invest, 1k in stock A and 1k in stock B
Say Stock A is a dividend stock where they declare yearly dividend of 3%, and annual capital growth 10%
Say Stock B is a growth stock and also annual capital growth 10%
Assumed both have share price @ RM2 at the time you invest both at the same time
If after one year, your value in stock A grow to RM 1100 and declare dividend, if you did not reinvest the dividend, you will have RM33 dividend received and your capital is left with same 500 shares @ RM 2.134 value RM 1067
Suppose you reinvest the dividend into it @ RM 2.134 and received 15.46 shares, you will have 515.46 shares @ RM 2.134 value RM 1100
Stock B, without dividend declare, enjoy yearly 10% capital growth every year, so 1st year will grow to rm 1100 as well
Assume each year is having the same trend for simplistic purpose, wouldnt both stock have the same capital growth value if you opt for dividend reinvestment?
Unless as you said, you take the dividend declare for living purpose, but if you did not reinvest the dividend, wouldnt your capital in the stock decrease every year after the dividend declared? And assume the dividend yield and capital growth remain the same, wouldnt your dividend received become less and less after each year?
Unless I am confusing myself in something else, I am trying to understand more
Because if one opt for dividend reinvestment, I cannot see the difference between dividend stock and growth stock in performance wise if they enjoy the same capital growth (unless what set them apart by their difference in fundamental that will caused them to grow differently?
QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 12 2017, 11:06 PM)
Erm, the bold statement means if you hold 500 shares, and before dividend, share price @ RM1.1, they declare 3% dividend (3 sen), the share price drop 3% (RM 1.07), assume you do not reinvest the dividend and you still hold the same amount of shares, wouldn't your share value now @ 500 shares * RM1.07 compared to if they didnt declare the dividend the share price will remain @ RM 1.1?
And if that happens every year where you use the dividend as your income to support your living instead of reinvesting, would the capital be less than if you reinvest and the gap will get wider as it goes by?
Or did I understand it wrongly?
You made some pretty good points. That got me thinking too. By paying the dividend to the shareholders as cash instead of reinvesting them, the effect of compounding would be reduced. Would that not be worse especially for long-term investment? Even if one were to reinvest that dividend by buying from the stock exchange, one would incur the brokerage charges etc. Of course some stocks offer dividend reinvestment scheme (DRS) where there is no charge for reinvesting the dividend (even then, usually not the whole amount can be reinvested due to the minimum units requirement (1 lot = 100 units). I would like to understand more on this too.And if that happens every year where you use the dividend as your income to support your living instead of reinvesting, would the capital be less than if you reinvest and the gap will get wider as it goes by?
Or did I understand it wrongly?
Feb 13 2017, 03:04 PM

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