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post May 13 2017, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 13 2017, 04:57 PM)
how much % are you planning to allocate this in your portfolio?
if < 15%, then anytime is a good time.
if > 15% then read this and decide...

provided you don't have any other funds that would change the allocation % to each of the 3 countries

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...The-Market-8332

http://www.fundsupermart.com.hk/hk/main/re...y-2Q-2017-13310
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Lol.. fundsupermart always promote Ex-Japan, not sure if its biased towards
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post May 13 2017, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(innsean @ May 13 2017, 05:08 PM)
Lol.. fundsupermart always promote Ex-Japan, not sure if its biased towards
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possible....but I think they are basing on this
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...5-May-2017-8314

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post May 13 2017, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 13 2017, 12:01 PM)
be advised this is way difficult than UT. this is a product of many homework and research and worrying that what if you chose the wrong counter and stand to lose 60% of your capital and it doesn't appreciate. unlike it all you have is measly returns if you made the wrong call
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yea, so due to this i dont think i am suitable to trade stock. i tried forex once, so im guessing the amount of study involve is similar. i didnt do well in forex, i doubt i will be better at stocks.
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QUOTE(T231H @ May 13 2017, 05:13 PM)
possible....but I think they are basing on this
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...5-May-2017-8314
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how to interprate this table? can please share. thanks
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post May 13 2017, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ May 13 2017, 07:12 PM)
yea, so due to this i dont think i am suitable to trade stock. i tried forex once, so im guessing the amount of study involve is similar. i didnt do well in forex, i doubt i will be better at stocks.
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Not really. If you want to invest for capital appreciation, then yeah maybe more work needed. Because those stocks, no analayst no cover, no one knows about it.

But if you are investing for income (dividend yield), few criteria criteria.
1) financial balance sheet. A company with zero debts or low debts is mich better at survival.
2) company you see everyday which people use and hard for them to survive without it. But this is just a clue. Not necessarily can work (good eg. PPB group on observation it's a good business - gsc cinema, massimo bread, blue key and cap sauh flour, neptune and sri murni cooking oil but if you dig deeper, not so impressive although it's owned by the famous robert kouk)

Can malaysia survive without it? Most likely can but hard.

But OT. blush.gif

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post May 13 2017, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ May 13 2017, 07:21 PM)
how to interprate this table? can please share. thanks
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hmm.gif how to interpret the market valuation table?
hope this can helps....

Valuations
The market weighted price-earnings ratio (PE) or ‘market valuations’ as we commonly address it, is a measurement of how ‘expensive’ or ‘cheap’ a market is at a particular point of time. The information on market valuations is easily available on our fundsupermart website.

So how is the price-earnings ratio calculated? The price-earnings ratio is the current price of the market divided by the expected earnings per share for the market.
Expected earnings are calculated on a weighted average basis ( companies with a higher market capitalization will have a higher ‘weight’ in the calculation of expected earnings).

It is relatively straightforward to compare valuations. A market with a high PE is considered ‘expensive’ and a market with a low PE is considered ‘cheap’.
However, bear in mind that this valuation measurement is used on a relative basis. Valuations can be compared across markets, or compared within the same market on a historical basis.

In the case of profit taking, comparing with historical valuations is more relevant, as it is a better gauge as to whether the market is overvalued or not.

In other words, if the PE for market A is 25 times, on an absolute basis you cannot tell whether it is expensive or cheap.
However, if a comparison is made vis-à-vis other regions and we find that valuations of other regions range from 30 times to 40 times, the valuation for this market is relatively attractive.

But for the purpose of deciding whether or not to take profits, we can compare current valuations to the historical range of valuations. If historical valuations range from 10-15 times, we can say that market A is ‘currently trading at a relatively high PE in comparison to the historical range’. In such a situation, investors should consider taking profits.

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...?articleNo=1783

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...l?articleNo=606

Determining equity market’s attractiveness
https://www.themalaysianreserve.com/new/sto...-attractiveness

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post May 14 2017, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 13 2017, 11:58 PM)
hmm.gif how to interpret the market valuation table?
hope this can helps....

Valuations
The market weighted price-earnings ratio (PE) or ‘market valuations’ as we commonly address it, is a measurement of how ‘expensive’ or ‘cheap’ a market is at a particular point of time. The information on market valuations is easily available on our fundsupermart website.

So how is the price-earnings ratio calculated? The price-earnings ratio is the current price of the market divided by the expected earnings per share for the market.
Expected earnings are calculated on a weighted average basis ( companies with a higher market capitalization will have a higher ‘weight’ in the calculation of expected earnings).

It is relatively straightforward to compare valuations. A market with a high PE is considered ‘expensive’ and a market with a low PE is considered ‘cheap’.
However, bear in mind that this valuation measurement is used on a relative basis. Valuations can be compared across markets, or compared within the same market on a historical basis.

In the case of profit taking, comparing with historical valuations is more relevant, as it is a better gauge as to whether the market is overvalued or not.

In other words, if the PE for market A is 25 times, on an absolute basis you cannot tell whether it is expensive or cheap.
However, if a comparison is made vis-à-vis other regions and we find that valuations of other regions range from 30 times to 40 times, the valuation for this market is relatively attractive.

But for the purpose of deciding whether or not to take profits, we can compare current valuations to the historical range of valuations. If historical valuations range from 10-15 times, we can say that market A is ‘currently trading at a relatively high PE in comparison to the historical range’. In such a situation, investors should consider taking profits.

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...?articleNo=1783

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...l?articleNo=606

Determining equity market’s attractiveness
https://www.themalaysianreserve.com/new/sto...-attractiveness
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That's a really good explanation.

Though all these explanations and post from you in this thread makes me wonder if you're a key personnel of FSM ? brows.gif icon_idea.gif
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post May 14 2017, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ May 14 2017, 12:29 AM)
That's a really good explanation.
of course they are explained good...for they are from FSM articles

Though all these explanations and post from you in this thread makes me wonder if you're a key personnel of FSM ? brows.gif  icon_idea.gif
blush.gif  blush.gif I just googled, copy and pasted the links.... sad.gif  pei-seh, pei-seh....me not qualified to be in the lowest grade employee in FSM also.....for I know nuts and can tok kok only.
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post May 14 2017, 10:07 AM

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Portfolio at all time high again!
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post May 14 2017, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 14 2017, 10:07 AM)
Portfolio at all time high again!
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Just don't forget to take note of the planned FI:EQ ratio
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don't be so happy. Trump's impeachment may happen and when it does everything will bleed
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 13 2017, 07:24 PM)
Not really. If you want to invest for capital appreciation, then yeah maybe more work needed. Because those stocks, no analayst no cover, no one knows about it.

But if you are investing for income (dividend yield), few criteria criteria.
1) financial balance sheet. A company with zero debts or low debts is mich better at survival.
2) company you see everyday which people use and  hard for them to survive without it. But this is just a clue. Not necessarily can work (good eg. PPB group on observation it's a good business - gsc cinema, massimo bread, blue key and cap sauh flour, neptune and sri murni cooking oil but if you dig deeper, not so impressive although it's owned by the famous robert kouk)

Can malaysia survive without it? Most likely can but hard.

But OT. blush.gif
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Thanks for the knowledge shared.

QUOTE(T231H @ May 13 2017, 11:58 PM)
hmm.gif how to interpret the market valuation table?
hope this can helps....

Valuations
The market weighted price-earnings ratio (PE) or ‘market valuations’ as we commonly address it, is a measurement of how ‘expensive’ or ‘cheap’ a market is at a particular point of time. The information on market valuations is easily available on our fundsupermart website.

So how is the price-earnings ratio calculated? The price-earnings ratio is the current price of the market divided by the expected earnings per share for the market.
Expected earnings are calculated on a weighted average basis ( companies with a higher market capitalization will have a higher ‘weight’ in the calculation of expected earnings).

It is relatively straightforward to compare valuations. A market with a high PE is considered ‘expensive’ and a market with a low PE is considered ‘cheap’.
However, bear in mind that this valuation measurement is used on a relative basis. Valuations can be compared across markets, or compared within the same market on a historical basis.

In the case of profit taking, comparing with historical valuations is more relevant, as it is a better gauge as to whether the market is overvalued or not.

In other words, if the PE for market A is 25 times, on an absolute basis you cannot tell whether it is expensive or cheap.
However, if a comparison is made vis-à-vis other regions and we find that valuations of other regions range from 30 times to 40 times, the valuation for this market is relatively attractive.

But for the purpose of deciding whether or not to take profits, we can compare current valuations to the historical range of valuations. If historical valuations range from 10-15 times, we can say that market A is ‘currently trading at a relatively high PE in comparison to the historical range’. In such a situation, investors should consider taking profits.

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...?articleNo=1783

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...l?articleNo=606

Determining equity market’s attractiveness
https://www.themalaysianreserve.com/new/sto...-attractiveness
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Thanks for the knowledge shared.
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QUOTE(MUM @ May 14 2017, 11:27 AM)
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Just don't forget to take note of the planned FI:EQ ratio
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For UT ... I am 95% EQ

But I consider my ASNB as my FI
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 14 2017, 11:58 AM)
For UT ... I am 95% EQ

But I consider my ASNB as my FI
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What is the ratio of ut vs asnb?
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 14 2017, 11:58 AM)
For UT ... I am 95% EQ

But I consider my ASNB as my FI
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Same, but thinking of moving all my AS1M to AH Select Bond Fund after they declare the dividend this year.

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 14 2017, 11:33 AM)
don't be so happy. Trump's impeachment may happen and when it does everything will bleed
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Yeah was lil bit worried about that as I have quite some amount on equity fund.
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QUOTE(MUM @ May 14 2017, 02:23 PM)
What is the ratio of ut vs asnb?
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Should be around 75/25
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QUOTE(voyage23 @ May 14 2017, 02:25 PM)
Same, but thinking of moving all my AS1M to AH Select Bond Fund after they declare the dividend this year.
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I will stick to asnb first... lets see next year duvidend
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 14 2017, 11:33 AM)
don't be so happy. Trump's impeachment may happen and when it does everything will bleed
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Can't be thinking too much of all the what-ifs that may or may not happen. Just gonna stay invested and stick to regular DCA and proper asset allocation across all regions with appropriate % suitable to own's risk tolerance. biggrin.gif

...or if that happens you can always choose to switch all to gold funds biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(voyage23 @ May 14 2017, 03:44 PM)
Can't be thinking too much of all the what-ifs that may or may not happen. Just gonna stay invested and stick to regular DCA and proper asset allocation across all regions with appropriate % suitable to own's risk tolerance.  biggrin.gif

...or if that happens you can always choose to switch all to gold funds  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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nah. I am running of us and monitoring my port on a weekly basis while keeping a sum of cash in CMF. once Trump gets impeach or us implodes from being retarded.

I'll swoop in

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