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LazyKurosaki
post Feb 13 2017, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 13 2017, 08:09 PM)
no, is you set up a auto debit instruction from FSM, you can set the amount you want to RSP into the fund you choose
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Then what is the different ah since we can choose our own fund also...how is it diff from putting 1k into the fund of our choice
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post Feb 13 2017, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Feb 13 2017, 08:19 PM)
Then what is the different ah since we can choose our own fund also...how is it diff from putting 1k into the fund of our choice
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hmm.gif you put in 1K buy 1 fund, then save for a few months another 1K to buy into another fund, and the cycle goes on until your diversified portfolio are achieves.....
in the meantime your portfolio maybe 1 sided.....

With RSP, you can set up and starts a diversified asset class and geographic markets diversification and ....
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CONSIDER REGULAR SAVINGS PLANS
Investors who are unable to set aside the initial lump sum investment may find our Regular Savings Plan (RSP) more appealing. Fundsupermart currently has 198 unit trusts in the RSP Special List that does not require a minimum initial investment lump sum amount. For as little as RM100 a month, investors can choose to begin an RSP into any fund on the list.
The RSP utilises the "dollar cost averaging" concept, where a fixed sum of money is invested each month, regardless of whether the market has risen or fallen. When the markets are heading up, you buy fewer units per dollar invested while still participating in the ascent of financial markets. When the markets are heading down, the situation is reversed and you purchase a greater of number of units per dollar invested, allowing the investor to benefit from market volatility to the downside. Over the long run, the cost of the investment averages out, saving you the time and effort required to monitor market movements and strategically time your investments.

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...July-2015--6123

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post Feb 13 2017, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Feb 13 2017, 08:18 PM)
I think we should monitor their liquid assets...once it hits 8%, chances are they will stop rising so much. Currently most of the gains in Malaysia based on my observation is coming from local funds spending their liquid assets. The mean is usually 5-8% in "normal times", but at the end of Nov/Dec it was 20-30% in most local funds. So now the gains are coming as the local funds pour cash into the market. It's a dangerous scenario cause if this is not sustained and the market fundamentals do not improve then eventually we will be headed for another major drop as the foreign funds do profit taking.
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But you do know their fund fact sheet is always close to 1 month plus lag sweat.gif

For now, from november to december:

kgf maintain roughly same level in liquid asset

for kap chai, they injected 2% of liquid asset into stocks

but ponzi 1 pumped almost 11% liquid asset into stocks

QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Feb 13 2017, 08:19 PM)
Then what is the different ah since we can choose our own fund also...how is it diff from putting 1k into the fund of our choice
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RSP you can start without initial investment (for most funds) and you didnt need to manually top up every month, either set deduct from bank account or CMF, they will auto deduct your money into your selected fund every month, hassle free

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post Feb 13 2017, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Feb 13 2017, 08:19 PM)
Then what is the different ah since we can choose our own fund also...how is it diff from putting 1k into the fund of our choice
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1. able to start small;
2. dollar cost averaging;
3. commitment to save

seriously, all the info me and friend T231H and AIYH tells can be readily read from the links posted earlier. I think it is better to read them in FSM website.

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post Feb 13 2017, 08:45 PM

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Hi friends,

it is after hours now so I ask here. Let's say if I want to mirror the FSM recommended portfolio, does it mean that

1. FSM will sell and buy/switch the existing funds into the funds within the recommended portfolio (sales charge incurred)?

2. Do I have to skim profit or rebalance the portfolio myself or FSM will do it automatically to the prescribed ratio? If so, when?

on additional note:
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/e...Pi3nEmc.twitter
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Euphoria sweeps China stocks as momentum gauge reaches 2015 high
By Bloomberg / Bloomberg  | February 13, 2017 : 8:00 PM MYT 

(Feb 13): Chinese stocks are hot again.

The MSCI China Index has surged 13% from its December low, sending a momentum indicator to its highest level since April 2015, while the percentage of members trading above their 200-day moving average has climbed above 85% for the first time since the bubble burst almost two years ago.

Improving earnings in industries such as automakers, a pick up in economic growth and valuations that trail global peers are luring investors back to a market that’s burnt optimists before. Just last quarter the gauge sank about 7% as a slumping yuan and tighter liquidity had investors jostling for the exits. This time round, inflows from the mainland into Hong Kong are helping support the rally.

MSCI Inc’s China gauge tracks 150 of the nation’s companies that have listings outside the mainland, including in Hong Kong and US bourses. Among the biggest gainers since the index’s Dec 23 low are automakers such as Geely Automobile Holdings Ltd, materials producers including Aluminum Corp of China Ltd and Jiangxi Copper Co, and social media company Weibo Corp.

The index now trades within 1% of levels last seen in August 2015, when the nation’s equities were in a tailspin following an epic boom. Shares are again looking frothy, with the MSCI China’s 14-day relative strength indicator rising to 78.8 on Monday, above the 70 level that signals to some traders that stocks are overbought.

Still, as global funds look for bargains amid a worldwide equity rally, the MSCI China Index stands out. The gauge trades at about 14 times reported earnings, a 34% discount to the MSCI All-Country World Index. A stabilizing yuan is also boosting confidence, with the currency gaining about 1% against the dollar this year. The Chinese measure rose 0.8% on Monday in a fourth day of gains.

International investors put about US$469 million into exchange-traded funds that buy Chinese and Hong Kong stocks in the two weeks through Jan 27, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Mainland funds have also been pouring into Hong Kong equities through the Shanghai and Shenzhen exchange links, with inflows this year totaling 34.1 billion yuan at the end of last week.


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post Feb 13 2017, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Feb 13 2017, 08:45 PM)
Hi friends,

it is after hours now so I ask here. Let's say if I want to mirror the FSM recommended portfolio, does it mean that

1. FSM will sell and buy/switch the existing funds into the funds within the recommended portfolio (sales charge incurred)?

2. Do I have to skim profit or rebalance the portfolio myself or FSM will do it automatically to the prescribed ratio? If so, when?
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I think the recommended portfolio is just the reference for us to follow only

Hence, it is not an auto pilot portfolio, rather, you need to refer them monthly and you make your own decision and transaction

When they switch fund, they just replace the old fund info and data with new fund info and data, performance is not inclusive of sales charge

But I could be wrong, you may refer to live help in working hours from their website or email them to verify the info or ask more details

p/s: if you want auto pilot mutua funds portfolio, you should go to their SG counterpart which they have MAPS service, you invest once and/or put a sum of money in their cash account to do auto monthly investment, they will help you allocate fund and switch fund according to their expertise for a small percentage of annual fee
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post Feb 13 2017, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Feb 13 2017, 08:19 PM)
Then what is the different ah since we can choose our own fund also...how is it diff from putting 1k into the fund of our choice
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With RSP, you are pumping in money on the 15th of every month regardless the market is expensive or cheap. No emotion. High or low at the 15th of every month, automatically xxx amount will be pumped into the fund of your choice.
With DIY, you determine when want to pump into the market.

QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 13 2017, 08:36 PM)
For now, from november to december:

kgf maintain roughly same level in liquid asset

but for kap chai, they injected almost 8% of liquid asset into stocks

while ponzi 1 pumped almost 11% liquid asset into stocks
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Where do you get this info? hmm.gif

QUOTE(2387581 @ Feb 13 2017, 08:45 PM)
Hi friends,

it is after hours now so I ask here. Let's say if I want to mirror the FSM recommended portfolio, does it mean that

1. FSM will sell and buy/switch the existing funds into the funds within the recommended portfolio (sales charge incurred)?

2. Do I have to skim profit or rebalance the portfolio myself or FSM will do it automatically to the prescribed ratio? If so, when?

on additional note:
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/e...Pi3nEmc.twitter
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1. They will give you a notification that they have sold/buy x fund by abc amount.
2. No auto mode.
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post Feb 13 2017, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 13 2017, 09:05 PM)
With RSP, you are pumping in money on the 15th of every month regardless the market is expensive or cheap. No emotion. High or low at the 15th of every month, automatically xxx amount will be pumped into the fund of your choice.
With DIY, you determine when want to pump into the market.
Where do you get this info?  hmm.gif
1. They will give you a notification that they have sold/buy x fund by abc amount.
2. No auto mode.
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For KGF, check their latest FFS, they showed the latest 3 months stocks and liquid assets percentage

For kapchai and ponzi 1, compare their FFS between november and december
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 13 2017, 09:14 PM)
For KGF, check their latest FFS, they showed the latest 3 months stocks and liquid assets percentage

For kapchai and ponzi 1, compare their FFS between november and december
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Where do you get their FFS? FSM only put the latest one. Download last time and keep?
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post Feb 13 2017, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 13 2017, 09:17 PM)
Where do you get their FFS? FSM only put the latest one. Download last time and keep?
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You can always google... wait did I say the obvious?
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post Feb 13 2017, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 13 2017, 09:05 PM)
With RSP, you are pumping in money on the 15th of every month regardless the market is expensive or cheap. No emotion. High or low at the 15th of every month, automatically xxx amount will be pumped into the fund of your choice.

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But with manual pump also can right? Only that initial investment is 1k compared to 100 right? Every.month I pump in xxx amount on my own consider as dollar cost averaging as well?
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post Feb 13 2017, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 13 2017, 09:17 PM)
Where do you get their FFS? FSM only put the latest one. Download last time and keep?
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You could download, but i didnt laugh.gif

For previous 2 months, you can still google them on top few results smile.gif
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Feb 13 2017, 09:27 PM)
But with manual pump also can right? Only that initial investment is 1k compared to 100 right? Every.month I pump in xxx amount on my own consider as dollar cost averaging as well?
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You can, but if you dont have initial capital, you can start with 100 via RSP for most fund

Moreover, some funds like manulife and aberdeen required 500 for subsequent top up whil via RSP, you only need 100 to top up them smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 13 2017, 09:17 PM)
Where do you get their FFS? FSM only put the latest one. Download last time and keep?
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For example;

https://www.eunittrust.com.my/pdf/Factsheet...00102016_fs.pdf
https://www.eunittrust.com.my/pdf/Factsheet...00112016_fs.pdf
https://www.eunittrust.com.my/pdf/Factsheet...00122016_fs.pdf

following this pattern I may retrieve up to Jan 2012

https://www.eunittrust.com.my/pdf/Factsheet...00012012_fs.pdf

interestingly you can see how things have changed over time.
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 13 2017, 08:36 PM)
But you do know their fund fact sheet is always close to 1 month plus lag sweat.gif

For now, from november to december:

kgf maintain roughly same level in liquid asset

for kap chai, they injected 2% of liquid asset into stocks

but ponzi 1 pumped almost 11% liquid asset into stocks

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Which is better way to calculate it, just minus the % or compute the money based on fund size ? Eg the kap chai case, fund size reduced.
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omggg...portfolio return hit another all the high, any brosss or sisss doing portfolio restructuring ??? or just buy pop corn sit and see how it hit higher high ?
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QUOTE(wayne84 @ Feb 13 2017, 09:52 PM)
omggg...portfolio return hit another all the high, any brosss or sisss doing portfolio restructuring ??? or just buy pop corn sit and see how it hit higher high ?
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Everyday we are watching the balloon becomes bigger and bigger. LOL.
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post Feb 13 2017, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Feb 13 2017, 08:45 PM)
Hi friends,

it is after hours now so I ask here. Let's say if I want to mirror the FSM recommended portfolio, does it mean that

1. FSM will sell and buy/switch the existing funds into the funds within the recommended portfolio (sales charge incurred)?

2. Do I have to skim profit or rebalance the portfolio myself or FSM will do it automatically to the prescribed ratio? If so, when?

on additional note:
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/e...Pi3nEmc.twitter
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Yeah I'm a bit disappointed with not having quickly re-switched back into the China fund. I went from Greater China > China/India/Indonesia, and the initial 4 day period was good, but since then China has come back strong and I was too hesitant to react. I finally switched back today afternoon, so hopefully from tomorrow onwards China keeps up the good pace!

PS: I still kept my Australia (from Global Titans) and SEA (from Europe) switches
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 13 2017, 09:55 PM)
Everyday we are watching the balloon becomes bigger and bigger. LOL.
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Bro, the balloon party just started...wont burst so fast gua..lu jgn make me gan jeong la wei hahaha
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post Feb 13 2017, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 13 2017, 09:31 PM)
You can, but if you dont have initial capital, you can start with 100 via RSP for most fund

Moreover, some funds like manulife and aberdeen required 500 for subsequent top up whil via RSP, you only need 100 to top up them smile.gif
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The initial capital already have de..maybe I do it over the bank..we get 1% sales charge for staff..

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