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LazyKurosaki
post Feb 13 2017, 06:55 PM

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I planning to put my.first 1k saving into affin hwang select asia ex jpn quantum fund / TA Global Technology fund..subsequently I will add in rm 150-200 every month while continue to save money until enuf money den buy into diff fund..will it be a good choice? Just started working..not much spare to invest
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post Feb 13 2017, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 13 2017, 07:03 PM)
you can try do RSP to cover most funds for your portfolio instead of having to start with just 2 funds.
try read this and contact FSM CIS or CS for further discussion on the T&C of RSP if you cannot get more from the RSP FAQs.

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/buyse...ntroduction.tpl

RSP FAQs
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/0...avings-Plan-976
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Thanks but I dont.get what is RSP..issit we pay every month den FSM will use our money and invest in diff diff funds ?
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post Feb 13 2017, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 13 2017, 08:09 PM)
no, is you set up a auto debit instruction from FSM, you can set the amount you want to RSP into the fund you choose
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Then what is the different ah since we can choose our own fund also...how is it diff from putting 1k into the fund of our choice
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post Feb 13 2017, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 13 2017, 09:05 PM)
With RSP, you are pumping in money on the 15th of every month regardless the market is expensive or cheap. No emotion. High or low at the 15th of every month, automatically xxx amount will be pumped into the fund of your choice.

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But with manual pump also can right? Only that initial investment is 1k compared to 100 right? Every.month I pump in xxx amount on my own consider as dollar cost averaging as well?
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post Feb 13 2017, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 13 2017, 09:31 PM)
You can, but if you dont have initial capital, you can start with 100 via RSP for most fund

Moreover, some funds like manulife and aberdeen required 500 for subsequent top up whil via RSP, you only need 100 to top up them smile.gif
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The initial capital already have de..maybe I do it over the bank..we get 1% sales charge for staff..
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post Feb 13 2017, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 13 2017, 10:03 PM)
If you can get better offer, by all means go for it

Unless you will a staff there until retirement, chances that you will pay higher SC once you leave the bank, so that time only transfer to FSM laugh.gif
you see the fund size changes vs the cash changes in %, which changes more tongue.gif
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Probably work few.more years..where cn I check the sales charge for.fsm?
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post Feb 13 2017, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 13 2017, 10:07 PM)
available in their website, fund selector, fund sales charge, or their respective fund page

sometimes they do have promo

you may also consider eunittrust if you want even lower SC promo
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I saw they have promo for affin hwang select asia ex jpn quantum.fund..but still deciding.whether to enter this or ta global technology..looking for capital gain/produce.an.income fund
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post Feb 14 2017, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Feb 14 2017, 02:03 PM)
The difference is that you could start a fund with RM100 instead of the usual 1k. Then, in a DCA regular investment, it is more 'average' and not too lopsided if the monthly amount is very small, say RM100.

This lopside skew to lower returns would happened if there is an immediate drop after you put in the initial 1000. Then the monthly RM100 fresh purchases will be hard to catch up and skew the returns to a higher effective rate of return.

You will be like, after 3-5 months, thinking: damp this fund no good as it is barely breaking even... if only if I had put it into FD...

And if it happens to be a sharp growth after you dump in the 1k, you would be like very pleased with yourself... thinking why so stingy when I should pump in more!

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Your initial plan - 1k, followed by 150-200 every month, is good. Take one fund at a time. You don't have to immediately start off with several funds.

The time to consider to have another fund or a few more funds to 'diversify' the investment is when you have reach about half of your targeted sum of money you want to have.*

Anyway, always keep in mind the objective of the investment. Know what you want to do, make a plan, and stick to the plan.

Repeat: Know what you want to do, make a plan, and stick to the plan.

Don't be like don't know what to do next in the middle of your investment plan, and asking what to do: trim profit or switch to another fund... or whatever that freak you out and cause you to panic...

It is a given fact that equity fund can be volatile, and will be volatile and is expected to be volatile. So no reasons to make any changes to the plan once you started it.

Stick to the plan!

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* This about half of the targeted total amount of money to have is based on my own opinion. Not based on any stats or numbers or articles read. If you are more conservative and not willing to ride 100% on one fund, then 'diversify' earlier.

Try not to 'diversify' too early, especially when the amount of money invested is relatively small to whatever asset you have outside of UT fund.

Take the risk - and more risk - when you are still young and have the time to do so.
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I agreed..im young.and.looking.into growth fund..willing.to.take the risk..thats why im still looking into 2 funds, affin hwang select asia ex jpn quantum.fund and TA global technology fund.. still undecided which to go..
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post Feb 14 2017, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Feb 14 2017, 04:28 PM)
I don't know both funds... and just by basing the choice on their names.  cool2.gif

I'll pick the Asia fund... cause Global tech sounds heavy on USA and tech companies... and all the indices, Dow, S&P, Russell 2000 and Nasdac are at record high at the moment. Apple stock is at all time record high.

If still undecided and don't trust my 'analitycal' pick, then flip a coin.  smile.gif

If the investment period is long enough, there may not be much difference between them in the long run... maybe 10-20% difference - which is sap sap sui when the total returns is 300% or more.

Like I would be very, very upset to get only 290% ROI instead of 310%...

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"very, very" - 2017's popular phrase.
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Yup the fund is.heavy on US where 78.4% is allocated in US. Ohter country include.netherland, israel, UK, finland, south korea, japan, france and china.. Some.famous brand listed in top 10 holdings that most ppl know is facebook, apple, mircosoft, samsung electronics, visa, intel and Qualcomm..this fund is considered aggressive.due to high volatility 12.6

On the affin hwang its more to asia side with the fund allocated highest in malaysia. This fund consider growth fund.as volatility lvl 9.2

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post Feb 14 2017, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 14 2017, 03:12 PM)
Pick both.
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Issit.btr.for me if I go into one growth or.aggressive fund.and another balanced fund instead of 2 aggressive/growth fund ?
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post Mar 5 2017, 11:21 PM

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Anyone know what is.the cash managment fund for? Issit smtg like fd? And we can use the cash in that fund to invest.into fund of our choice with faster transaction compared to fpx?
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post Mar 5 2017, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(skynode @ Mar 5 2017, 11:32 PM)
It's like savings account, just that you need a couple of days to liquidify it.

Perks :
1. convenient and efficient way to buy UTF
2. higher return than your run-of-the-mill savings account

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The interest is credited every 6 months or every month?
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post Mar 25 2017, 08:05 PM

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Jst invested 2k in rhb global sukuk fund series 2...lock 3 years with projected return of 4.5%-5%..

Btw, do u guys think nw is actually bad time to go into US narket since US mcm abit chaos nw

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post Jun 9 2017, 12:28 PM

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Hi guys, im trying to understand consumer behavior here.. why do you guys go into UT instead of 100% fd ?
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post Jun 9 2017, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 9 2017, 12:47 PM)
While waiting for responses...try ask in fd thread the reversed question?
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Will do.thanks for suggestion
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post Jun 13 2017, 11:00 AM

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I dont know why is it so hard to convince people to go into unit trust to earn more money
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post Jun 13 2017, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 13 2017, 11:03 AM)
Because they had bad experience with it in the past, especially on Public Mutual and the fees.
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Hw high is public mutual charging ?
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post Jun 13 2017, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 13 2017, 04:26 PM)
If i'm not mistaken 5.5% .
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Wtf so high?
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post Jun 13 2017, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 13 2017, 05:09 PM)
Yes go through public mutual agent, that's probably the figure that you're going to get.
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Actually why is public mutual so famous? What makes it so famous? Is it really the best fund manager out there?
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post Jun 14 2017, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jun 13 2017, 09:25 PM)
Not only Public Mutual, you try purchase direct from other fund house for example east spring investment 6%.
people always use PM for example because of their market cap and more popular.
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what do u mean by market cap ..dont get it

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