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post Jan 28 2022, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Jan 27 2022, 01:53 PM)
You mean the etf manager could pay a lower dividend comparing to what has been declared by a certain company in that year?
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Yes subject ETF manager as it is basket of companies to decide based on the current NAV in order to give lower or higher dividends especially those on yearly payout

If you’re looking for dividends don’t bother buying ETFs you will be better off buying bonds or stocks which has better and consistent payout doh.gif

Look into more REITs and stay away from ETF REITs doh.gif
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post Jan 28 2022, 07:55 AM

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post Jan 28 2022, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jan 28 2022, 12:15 AM)
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post Jan 28 2022, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 27 2022, 11:23 PM)
i did abt 2 weeks ago
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Received last week. Have been receiving red packets since 2014.
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post Jan 28 2022, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jan 27 2022, 11:15 PM)
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yup last week, always my favourite packets, nicer than any of the premier/priority banking ones.
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post Jan 28 2022, 01:07 PM

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I have been with FSMone for about 5 yrs.
I find that one need to actively managed the portfolio to make some decent returns, much like shares.
There is always a season for each region and each class of UT.

Do you agree?

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post Jan 28 2022, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(kp93300 @ Jan 28 2022, 01:07 PM)
I have been with FSMone for about 5 yrs.
I find that one need to actively managed the portfolio to make some decent returns, much like shares.
There is always a season for each region and each class of UT.

Do you agree?
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By the time we realised that it is not doing good, will it be too late?
If we follow past performance, will it be too late too?

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post Jan 28 2022, 01:38 PM

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The question of sell / buy too early or too late is relative as a UT can go higher and higher or lower and lower.
Maybe we should manage our feelings by being not too greedy or too fearful.

A UT that has gone up or down more than 10 percent in 6 months needs trimming of positions to lock in profits or loss.

I am not doing it myself yet but is there any logic or evidence that this works ?

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post Jan 28 2022, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 28 2022, 02:45 AM)
Yes subject ETF manager as it is basket of companies to decide based on the current NAV in order to give lower or higher dividends especially those on yearly payout

If you’re looking for dividends don’t bother buying ETFs you will be better off buying bonds or stocks which has better and consistent payout  doh.gif

Look into more REITs and stay away from ETF REITs  doh.gif
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Thanks for the advice.

Could you further explain on:
1. Dont bother buying ETFs. Bonds as in 'real' bond or unit trust bond?
2. Stay away from ETF REITs
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post Jan 28 2022, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(kp93300 @ Jan 28 2022, 01:07 PM)
I have been with FSMone for about 5 yrs.
I find that one need to actively managed the portfolio to make some decent returns, much like shares.
There is always a season for each region and each class of UT.

Do you agree?
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What is your definition of actively managed? Daily? Weekly? Monthly? Quarterly? I believe FSM articles say about twice a year or annually. For me was annually. You can set your own frequency.
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QUOTE(frankzane @ Jan 26 2022, 01:44 PM)
Hi,

Assuming everything is the same, can I safely say that revenue (capital growth, dividend) generated from ETF (example KLSE FTE) would be lower than if I were to buy all individual stocks listed in that ETF? Since an ETF is supposed to just track an index and not outperformed it?
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Yes, simply because an ETF manager charges fees for investing in all these stocks. The fees are still much lower than a normal mutual fund/unit trust, but it will still drag the performance a bit.

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post Jan 28 2022, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Jan 26 2022, 01:44 PM)
Hi,

Assuming everything is the same, can I safely say that revenue (capital growth, dividend) generated from ETF (example KLSE FTE) would be lower than if I were to buy all individual stocks listed in that ETF? Since an ETF is supposed to just track an index and not outperformed it?
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hmm.gif if you buy ALL stocks individually,...will individual buying cost (like for example, stamp duty, broker commission fees, clearing fees, buying fees, etc, etc) if ALL added up will it be more expensive than just buy and ETF?

This post has been edited by yklooi: Jan 28 2022, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(besiegetank @ Jan 22 2022, 04:45 PM)
Any key takeaway message from FSM talk today? Want to take advantage of the 0% offer now to buy some UT
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you asked,...they summarized it... biggrin.gif

A Summary of Fund Houses' Views
Last week, we have organized our annual flagship event — What and Where to Invest. In this article, we summarize the key points of each fund house.
https://www.fsmone.com.my/funds/research/ar...views?src=funds
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post Jan 28 2022, 10:30 PM

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post Jan 29 2022, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 28 2022, 08:04 PM)
you asked,...they summarized it... biggrin.gif

A Summary of Fund Houses' Views
Last week, we have organized our annual flagship event — What and Where to Invest. In this article, we summarize the key points of each fund house.
https://www.fsmone.com.my/funds/research/ar...views?src=funds
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Thanks!
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post Jan 29 2022, 03:13 AM

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Jan 28 2022, 02:01 PM)
Thanks for the advice.

Could you further explain on:
1. Dont bother buying ETFs. Bonds as in 'real' bond or unit trust bond?
2. Stay away from ETF REITs
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Never ever buy bond UT as it the worst with the fees which gives you only around 3% return and look for High Yield but beware of the risks so lots of homework to do underlying assets

If you ever wanna buy REITs just buy pure REITs rather than ETFs as it will drag down your returns as too diversified and every year after dividends payout it will readjust to a loss value and then it will start chasing to gain back the loss of value

REITs as in stocks will give you high % as it mandated for them to payout to shareholders otherwise the REITs will get tax highly
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post Jan 29 2022, 10:11 AM

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Portfolio tanked 5% in the last month. Been an investor since 2013 and overall IRR still > 7% which I am still satisfied with.
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post Jan 31 2022, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 28 2022, 03:48 PM)
hmm.gif if you buy ALL stocks individually,...will individual buying cost (like for example, stamp duty, broker commission fees, clearing fees, buying fees, etc, etc) if ALL added up will it be more expensive than just buy and ETF?
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Haha...that would require extensive calculation. But thanks for the truth! nod.gif
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post Jan 31 2022, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 29 2022, 03:13 AM)
Never ever buy bond UT as it the worst with the fees which gives you only around 3% return and look for High Yield but beware of the risks so lots of homework to do underlying assets

If you ever wanna buy REITs just buy pure REITs rather than ETFs as it will drag down your returns as too diversified and every year after dividends payout it will readjust to a loss value and then it will start chasing to gain back the loss of value

REITs as in stocks will give you high % as it mandated for them to payout to shareholders otherwise the REITs will get tax highly
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Thanks. Any example of REITS as in stocks? Not familiar with this as what I know are only ETF REITS and mutual fund REITS.
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post Jan 31 2022, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Jan 31 2022, 09:28 AM)
Thanks. Any example of REITS as in stocks? Not familiar with this as what I know are only ETF REITS and mutual fund REITS.
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Sunway, Axis, IGB, KLCCP are in Bursa

Capitaland, Parkway in SGX

*Just a few example but many to look around rclxms.gif

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